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The Vietnam War and the Loss Of Innocence: A Moment With Bill Reflection

Updated on October 8, 2013

Note to My Readers

The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was passed on August 7, 1964. The resolution gave President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war, for the use of conventional military force in Vietnam. A pronounced increase in troops followed and the rest, as they say, is history.

I hope you enjoy my free-form, stream-of-consciousness look back at the day our innocence died.

Before I lost my innocence, along with the country that I love.
Before I lost my innocence, along with the country that I love. | Source

In the Land of Plenty

"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
Albert Einstein

Driving to the store my dad and me

not a care in the world and flying free.

Stop for some gas, that will be thirty cents for a gallon please, and we’ll even toss in some S&H green stamps to boot. Lick them, put them in your book, redeem for wondrous treasures. Keep on truckin’ to the Pig that Wiggles, grab some milk, 95 cents, grab some eggs, 54 cents, now off to the office of posts for some stamps at five cents each…..

Heading back home to our $15,000 House of Love (just don’t look in the closets, baby), dad works like everyone else with unemployment sitting at a mere 5.7% and ain’t it sweet to be young, white and free in the land of the brave and the home of the free, or is it the other way around, never could keep that straight and hey, it’s four and time to deliver papers on the Schwinn with the baseball cards stuck to the spokes and feeling pretty full of myself.

There’s a price for everything and payment, if not due in full, will be taken in full over the years, over the decades, because some wounds will not heal, and damn that Mickey Mantle can hit a ball far, far, far, it’s been a hard day’s night and time to tuck in for another night of praying to God and praying to LBJ for wisdom and direction, but he’s too busy fighting his war on poverty and probably doesn’t have the time.

The song that inspired this article

Look, up in the Sky

We miss you, Johnny, and we hardly knew thee.

Look, up in the sky, it’s a bird, it’s a plane, no it’s BASIC, strange visitor from another planet of artificial intelligence, or is that even possible? Sounds like science fiction to me as I peddle under the boardwalk, hop off my bike and climb up on the roof, hotter than Hades there but great view of Janice Armstrong’s bedroom window, toss a few pebbles now but don’t break that glass or Mr. Armstrong will be over for a thumpin’ and my old man will help him.

Black and white, white and black, distinct and should never be mixed because who knows what will happen if one bathroom serves all or any seat in the bus is good enough for you or me or MLK.

The SG says cigarettes are linked to lung cancer but nobody is buying it, puff, puff, and puff some more, in restaurants, in hospitals and on death beds, suck it in and suck it up, the 4 Seasons are being pushed aside by those rude little twerps from Liverpool so come on over for a cuppa tea and let’s choke down a crumpet to jolly old England but damn, man, could that queen be any uglier? She and Lyndon could do the nasty dance and have one homely kid.

Where innocence lived before 1964
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Where in the World

Who done it, man? Who provided the clue and who provided the monopoly, and supply and demand are going to be the deaths of us all and where in the hell is Indochina? Leave it to the French to drop a hot, steaming turd on our doorstep.

Stop worrying about it and put a dime in the jukebox. Crank up the Kinks because you’ve really got me, Janice, and oh how I love the thought of you and me, married with 2.5 kids, me pitching in the Bigs and you sitting in the stands cheering me on, and everybody loves somebody sometime, and we’ll sing in the sunshine and love me do, Janice, love me do, but there are storm clouds forming to the west, Janice, the biggest damn storm I’ve ever seen, but right now it just looks like a tough shower and it will pass.

The storm arrives

But It Won’t Pass Now Will It?

Aquarius is rising, baby, and for a fistful of dollars everything will be alright, and it ain’t the seven days in May you have to worry about but the seven days in August. Our little Peyton Place has some secrets now doesn’t it? And our little geisha girl isn’t looking like my fair lady but rather a ruthless bitch that will drain us dry and spit us out before it is all over.

Where have you gone Harpo Marx, packed up and moved on with Joltin’ Joe and the rest of the hucksters, most of whom are wearing three-piece suits and sipping martinis under the Dome of Justice and ain’t that just the way it’s always been?

Red is the color of sunsets and red is the color of socialist dogmatic crap, and we can’t let that crap infiltrate the red, white and blue but wait, are there different shades of red, because how else can it be that two flags have the same color, so beautiful as the sun sets on another day in Paradise.

Yep, there are ghosts in the closet and secrets in the attic, and they’re pounding at the door and demanding to be heard, but the cost of hearing will be paid in blood and oh, yes, blood is red now isn’t it?

Say your prayers
Say your prayers | Source

August 7, 1964

"One of the greatest casualties of the war in Vietnam is the Great Society... shot down on the battlefield of Vietnam."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

The day the music died, or the day the innocence took a broadside hit, and there’s the pitch and it’s a double steal, our hearts and our souls, gone in an 88-2 vote in the Halls of Congress.

See-through blouses are the rage and rage is the word of the day as 58,200 Americans received their death warrant with the great seal on top and printed in blood. Pass those warrants out and we’ll expect pay sometime in the next eleven years; you just won’t know when your time has come. No sense whining, boys, because the dominoes are falling and we have to stop them before they reach our shores of liberty and Jesus H. is there any hope that those storm clouds will just dissipate and disappear?

No!

Barricade that damn closet door now, and do your best to keep it shut, because if that mother ever opens there will be hell to pay. Go on now about your business. Deliver those papers and get to school, and don’t forget to say your prayers because somebody needs to pray for us and I wanna hold your hand just one more time, Janice, before the storm gets here and darkness falls and we lose all chance of ever getting it right.

2013 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Have a great Thursday, Zulma.

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 2 years ago from United Kingdom

      Same here. And you're welcome.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Mutual open invitations it will have to be, Zulma! Gives me something to look forward to. :) Thank you!

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 2 years ago from United Kingdom

      I would love that. I've never been to that part of the US and it sounds beautiful. And I want to see your farm and play with the animals. That would be so fun.

      Unfortunately, that is an expensive proposition. The kids haven't left the nest yet. No matter where in the woods I leave them they manage to find their way back. lol And we still have another 5 or 6 years left on the mortgage.

      There is also the question of time. Although I've left the workaday world, my husband, Michael, hasn't retired yet. When he's not at the job, he's frequently on call. There are only 5 other people in country who are trained to his standard so he is what is known as 'mission essential'. When we go on holiday, it's always in country. It's a good thing the UK has some gorgeous scenery and history.

      This is the reality of my life right now but I have no doubt that we'll meet up one day. Until then we can have mutual open invitations for dinner.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Very true, Zulma. Why don't you take a vacation to the States? Bev and I would love to take you to dinner.

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 2 years ago from United Kingdom

      Well, who is? I make it a point to keep my distance from those that appear to have it all and are well grounded. I've seen enough crime documentaries to know that these are precisely the ones that end up the focal point of these shows. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      It was, Zulma. Now I need to unload on some other topics. LOL Maybe I'm not as emotionally stable as I want to be. :)

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 2 years ago from United Kingdom

      Sometimes you need to do that to unload some emotional baggage hanging around. I do that on occasion and I feel calmer and more focussed afterwards. I hope you found this cathartic.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you again, Zulma. For me it's not easy because it's emotional. I tend to feel like a wrung out wet rag after writing like this. :)

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 2 years ago from United Kingdom

      Awesome, Bill. This is not an easy style to pull off and you made it seem effortless.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      It's funny, Deb, what the government thought would pacify us. Anybody in their right mind knew that there was no way to survive an atomic bomb...heck, we saw the tests on tv with dummies being obliterated....but still we went through those silly drills. Too funny....and not. :)

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      Deb Hirt 3 years ago from Stillwater, OK

      I vaguely recall some of this, but I'll tell you that I started to be able to pay attention when that little B&W TV showed JFK's coffin rolling, rolling down the street. The Cold War was going on, and we had Air Raid Drills. We crawled under our little school desks and covered our heads with our arms, and what the hell was that really going to accomplish if the roof caved in from a bomb? Even then, at the age of 7, I knew that absolutely nothing could stop that roof...

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much Stephen...much-appreciated.

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      stephensaldana 4 years ago from Chicago

      Another awesome hub, Bill. Thanks!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      LK, thank you so much. I enjoyed writing this one very much and it's nice to have it warmly appreciated.

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      LKMore01 4 years ago

      Bill,

      What can I say about this HUB that Joe and Jaye haven't brilliantly expressed already. Your story was beautiful and moving and captured a moment in time. The corresponding comments made the entire experience pure pleasure. All of you are awesome.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Jaye. I'm trying to grow as a writer; thus the experiment. I have to tell you, I thought Joe's comment was pretty darned impressive. :)

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      Jaye Denman 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

      Bill - This one is absolutely magnificent! You gave another Bill (Faulkner) a run for his money with this stream-of-consciousness writing.

      Since I lived through those days and years, the entire hub was a succession of sharp jolts of memory for me--some of them sweet, but many of them sad. And, yes, the innocence died with the Vietnam war along with the waste of so many human lives lost there. And it was all for nothing, as it is with many of the wars started by those in power who send others to fight them.

      We need people like those Vietnam war protesters these days!

      I'm glad I came late to this feast so I got to read Joe's free-fall answer, too. Wow!

      This one will definitely be shared....

      Jaye

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Joe...brilliant! Simply brilliant and the best comment I have received in over 50,000 comments. Oh buddy, you have a talent for this free-form, or is it free-fall, writing. Love it, love it and love it some more.

      Thanks my friend for the perfect ending of a very wet weekend. Did I mention that I loved this comment? :)

      Aloha

      bill

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      Hawaiian Odysseus 4 years ago from Southeast Washington state

      Most Awesome Hub! Very rarely do I vote all the adjectives across, but you definitely earned it, Bill!

      Brilliant free fall from a Huey into the palmless napalmed jungle of Good Morning Vietnam where PTSD was synonymous with Robin Williams on Ritalin long before he discovered quaaludes with Mindy, and that was before she had that thing with the Fonz...ah, but let's get back to the sixties, shall we, and all that facial hair on the Beatles. Oh, yeah, just love that mustache on Yoko, and did you hear about that fling the Walrus had with Jimi on top of the watchtower? Hey, move over, buddy, and let's both get a good look at Janice and, by the way, have you tried one of these? All the way from Maui. (Puff, the magic dragon...) and, oh yeah, my heart's pounding like Big Ben gone berserk when the London breeze lifts the queen's skirts. How about that Natalie Wood? Talk about pitchin', I'd love to paint the corners with her, yeah, I know, blondes are cool, but I like brunettes. What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson? Aw, shoot, gotta run, Billy. Mom's callin'. Hey, call me later, I need help with my essay. Yeah, fair's fair, I'll do your new math homework. We'll check out that new movie tomorrow night--something about space and 2001. Later, alligator!

      Aloha, Bill! You got to me in a big time way with this one...

      ~Joe

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I agree, Efficient. It began in the 60's and really picked up steam in the 70's....and we haven't recovered from it yet.

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      Efficient Admin 4 years ago from Charlotte, NC

      I think my generation saw the beginnings of the family unit just beginning to unravel.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Efficient...no, the early 70's were no walk in the park either. :)

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      Efficient Admin 4 years ago from Charlotte, NC

      Wow that was thought provoking. Tonkin was before my time but I remember the 70s was no piece of cake in my neck of the woods. Great hub, awesome voted up.

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      drbj and sherry 4 years ago from south Florida

      Now this is what I call excellent, unmatched stream of consciousness writing, my friend. As I read, you flooded my world with so many memories - good and bad. I had one of those baseball-carded-in-the-spokes Schwinn bikes, too. :)

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Jean, evidently the only thing that has changed is people are more willing to ignore the travesties now rather than protest by the hundreds of thousands....and you are right, LBJ really accomplished very little as a President, other than push us deeper into a war that never should have happened.

      Thanks for stopping by.

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      Jean Bakula 4 years ago from New Jersey

      Wow, that brought me back! I was only in HS, but recall all the protests against the war, and the shouts of "LBJ LBJ How Many Babies Did You Kill Today?" It's hard for me at this age to hear how much good he did for civil rights, although signing some papers and getting people to change their closed minds takes 100 years or more. And so many people still have the nerve to argue that Vietnam wasn't a war? The times they aren't changing too much after all.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Martie! I'll take a look at those links. I know very little about your country other than what I have read about apartheid.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      vkwok, you are much too young, but I hope this helped you to see in the past just a bit. This war helped shape this country and we still have many veterans who are suffering from the effects of a war that should have never happened.

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      Victor W. Kwok 4 years ago from Hawaii

      This hub really paints a vivid picture of what went on in the past.

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      Martie Coetser 4 years ago from South Africa

      I have to share this with you, Bill –

      3 “Days” for my generation...

      1) During the border war many-many of our boys (my generation) lost their lives - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_...

      2) November 9, 1990, when our church confessed that Apartheid was wrong – And we grew up under the impressoin that it was God’s will! http://praag.org/?p=617

      3) And now, we have trusted the ANC, but they don’t do anything about these horrible hate crimes – whites – soft targets – being murdered with rapid strides - http://www.thetruthaboutsouthafrica.com/p/white-ge...

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Martie! It was interesting to read the comments from the UK....

      Vietnam wasn't that big a deal there....it's all about perspective, isn't it my friend? :)

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      Martie Coetser 4 years ago from South Africa

      Interesting: Just yesterday I listened to a radio transmission about this very topic, though relevant to South Africa. They have also used Don McLean's American Pie (The day the music died) to emphasise the issue.

      All countries have their days - one, maybe two, for each generation - when they say goodbye to Innocence.

      Thought-provoking hub, Bill!

      I love Don McLean's rich and melodic voice, always on pitch.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      PS, the madness never ends because we, as a country, never seem to learn from the past. I hope you enjoyed my song medley. :)

      blessings and a bushel of hugs coming your way

      bill

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      cheaptrick, all due respect....the resolution happened....the war happened....deaths happened...and that was the point of this article. Thanks for stopping by.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Faith, I agree, if you weren't alive then, then most of this is meaningless....but for those of us who were, the references should be obvious. Thank you for being here and always being supportive.

      blessings always

      bill

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      Patricia Scott 4 years ago from sunny Florida

      Echoes of a past, a not too distant past....it was a song....only all of the songS mixed up into one...Bill.

      And the beat goes on...and more wars came and we still need to say our prayers for sure.

      Angels are coming!!! ps

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      cheaptrick 4 years ago from the bridge of sighs

      All due respect...You realize that declassified documents have confirmed the gulf of Tonkin never happened right?58ooo very young men died for that lie.A couple of million Vietnamese died as well.The country was a wasteland for decades after we helped them. Seems like every country we help...or liberate ends up a wasteland.

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      Faith Reaper 4 years ago from southern USA

      Wow, Bill, love your free-flow writing here ... I was alive and you brought it all home indeed! I believe you have been re-reading your own writing essays ... to push yourself out of your own box on this one : ) The music of today just does not cut it ...

      It would be so hard for those who were not even born during those days to grasp all of what you have written here, but it should get them thinking for sure!

      Great job of shakin' things up ... "Bye, bye Miss American Pie ..."

      "Times they are a changin'"

      Blessings, Faith Reaper

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Ginger. I really enjoyed writing this one.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vinaya, that makes it a bit tough on the citizenry, doesn't it? Best wishes my friend and thank you!

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      ExpectGreatThings 4 years ago from Illinois

      I'm completely amazed at how much culture and history you packed into this hub! It was fun to read and gave me a lot to ponder. Thanks :) - Ginger

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      Vinaya Ghimire 4 years ago from Nepal

      The country I live in is still inflicted with "socialist dogmatic crap." There are at least 30 Communist parties in the country.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      So different in England, Nell. It sure wasn't peaceful here during the mid and late Sixties. :)

      Thanks for the visit my friend and your recollections.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      A wonderful trip down memory lane before the world started to become a serious place, I was only young back then but I remember so well how peaceful it seemed, these days are long gone now, nell

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Bill, that means a great deal to me and I thank you for the kind words. Blessings to you and your family.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Don, it was a wild ride but we made it! Thank you for taking this journey with me.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Diana, I had a blast writing this...thank you for understanding it. LOL

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Mark! I gave it my best shot.

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      Bill De Giulio 4 years ago from Massachusetts

      Wow Bill. What a trip down memory lane. I was very young then but I sure do remember most of the 60's. There are some pictures from Life Magazine of the Vietnam War that will be etched in my mind forever. The older I got the more I worried that I may have been heading there myself.

      I hope you know how good a write you are and this is certainly one of your finest masterpieces. Wonderful.

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      Don Bobbitt 4 years ago from Ruskin Florida

      We Grew Up then!

      We learned How to Live then!

      We were forged in the flames of those days!

      As Dinah Shore would sing:

      Thanks for the memories!

      DON

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      Dianna Mendez 4 years ago

      Boy, you have brought back lots of memories for me: S&H stamps, jukebox, The Four Seasons, Lyndon Johnson, etc., what a fun read. I think you had lots of fun writing this one.

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      Mark G Weller 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA.

      I remember, I am a little younger, but lived these days. Great way of expressing the feelings, the confusion, and the dreams.

      Well done Bill,

      Mark

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Jo, thank you so much. I wanted this one to be special so your comment means a great deal to me. When will we ever learn my friend?

      blessings to you always

      bill

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      Jo Alexis-Hagues 4 years ago from Bedfordshire, U.K

      Bill, you've surpassed yourself! This is a tapestry of time, cleverly woven to produce something really very special. As the madness threatens to paint it black, we find ourselves hovering on the brink yet again.

      A great piece of work my friend, my best to you as always.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      DJ, thank you and yes, I am proud of this. I've mentioned before that maybe once a week, or once every two weeks, I feel good about something I have written...this was one of them.

      Will we ever learn? I don't think so in our lifetime and it pains me to write that...but I'll always give you the truth as I know it.

      Thank you my friend. Your comment meant a great deal to me.

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      DJ Anderson 4 years ago

      Bill, this is an amazing piece of work. You should feel very happy with

      the results of knitting together song lyrics, movie titles, names of musical groups, political figures of the day and the political climate of the era.

      I have to admit, it was like ripping the scab off an old injury. While watching the video, I felt such shame seeing our nation turning on its own people who were in peaceful protest of the war.

      Have we not learned anything? Here we are again, fifty years later, in another political war with little hope of a resolution.

      You should be very proud of this article. Sadly, it does bring us to the point where we look around and ask, "Has anything really changed?

      They are still sending our sons and daughters back, maimed or in boxes.

      A new genre for you. But, it reads seamlessly.

      DJ.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ann, it's interesting, your perspective from England about the war. It nearly tore this country apart and was such a huge part of our lives for a decade.

      I'm glad you caught your breath. That was one of the things I said early on that I wanted to do...stun my readers so that they had to catch their breath. That means a lot to me that you said that. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      DDE, thank you so much. I have had a very interesting life lived during a fascinating time of your history. I'm glad I could share it with you.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      lyric, thank you so much. This was a tough one to write because I knew a lot of people just wouldn't understand the references. I'm happy you enjoyed it.

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      Ann Carr 4 years ago from SW England

      I had to remind myself to breathe when I'd finished reading this; the pace was awesome (in the English sense) and I love all the musical references. Vietnam didn't seem to register much here in Britain (at least, not with me) maybe because I had such a sheltered wonderful childhood and the 60s were fun and frolics! I think innocence leaves children at a much younger age now; it's a shame but in some ways prepares them better for a much nastier, more money-driven world - or do I think that because the world is a smaller place and we know about it as soon as it happens? As you can see, you made me think about so many things and I've just got my breath back! Up ++ . Brilliant. Ann

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      Devika Primić 4 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Interesting hub about Say Goodbye To Innocence sounds like you have lived and had so far many experiences and had also written about it thanks for bringing back the many reminders to most hubbers and for sharing your great thoughts well done!

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      Richard Ricky Hale 4 years ago from West Virginia

      Great writing Bill. This was way before I was ever considered. I've been watching that History documentary on the Presidents of the United States and remembered seeing Johnson on there. I couldn't imagine being in charge of such a decision, knowing that death is near certain. Loved all the references, even the ones I don't know :) Awesome details Bill, voted up, awesome, interesting, and shared on FB.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Sha! I was pretty sure about half of the people who read it will miss most of the references, but I wrote it for the Baby Boomers and for myself. :)

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      Shauna L Bowling 4 years ago from Central Florida

      Bill, I love this all-over-the-place style of writing. You captured the music and the social attitudes of the era with every sentence. I would imagine readers too young to remember the 60s have no idea of or spotted the many allusions you included in this hub.

      Excellent job! This is a perfect example of the fingers trying to keep up with the mind!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Some sooner than others, Carol, but for sure it leaves at an early age. As for today...tough times indeed. Is it possible some out there don't realize it?

      Thanks as always for the visit. I hope you are doing well.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Dora! Different perspectives for sure my friend, and all a learning experience if we are willing.

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      carol stanley 4 years ago from Arizona

      Bye Bye American Pie and all that..There were problems for sure...but even though each generation thinks they are going through the biggest change...An amazing fact ...These are the good old days right??????Not so sure about this group of years. The problems are horrendous and those who don't realize the problems today have their heads gasping for air in the sand...What is innocence...it leaves at a very early age.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 4 years ago from The Caribbean

      Great reading it from someone who actually lived it. I had not left the Caribbean as yet, and the world seemed so much larger and America so far away. Different perspective now. Thank you for the recall.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Goosebumps and chills....Leslie, are we talking sex here? :) Seriously lady, I appreciate you very much. Good thing we don't live closer to each other...we could stir up some serious shit in person. :) Thank you for your kind words...they mean a lot to me.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      Jesus Bill...this gave me goosebumps and then - chills on TOP! I adore your writing style today - stream of conscious suits you well!

      Ahhh, the good old days, and - i mean that SOOO sincerely..

      How innocently (?) did we wind up on the brink of destruction - when once upon a time - there used to be such hope, such a sparkling future - and just a tad of human kindness and humility?

      it makes me cry. i love how you care.

      sharing my dear friend

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Liz, it was an exciting time for sure to be a teen. I remember it so clearly...anyone who lived then will never forget the change and turmoil of those years. Yes, you would have fit in perfectly with your compassionate heart and desire to make a difference. :) Thank you, Liz!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vicki, thank you so much. I had fun writing this. The events I lived through and they are still clear in my mind, so all I had to do was let my mind roam free. I was just the transcriber on this literary journey. I appreciate your kind and detailed comments.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Mary! I'm trying to grow as a writer and that means trying new techniques....I'm glad I wasn't too out there with this one and you were able to understand the references.

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      Elizabeth Parker 4 years ago from Las Vegas, NV

      I wasn't around at the time, but I understood the references and was able to feel the emotion. But of course, you wrote it, so it was crystal clear even with metaphors. :) I often wish I was around during the "better" years because it seems like each year, we dig ourselves deeper and deeper in a ditch. Fantastic writing, as always.

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      Vickiw 4 years ago

      I remember this , Bill, but weirdly, in a vicarious remote way. I was in South Africa during these times, dependent on my love of reading, information I could glean from our village library and books. There was no television. I was fascinated, again in such a remote way, by imagining these events that I read about ( quite censored too) that happened in The USA. Being in North America, having access to technology now, has allowed me to catch up, but I missed the flavour of it all.

      I loved this style of writing from you, provocative, encapsulating, charming and challenging. It begs for emotion and thoughts of where we were, and where we are all heading.

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      Mary Craig 4 years ago from New York

      Oh the flying metaphors were marvelous! For those of us around back then you evoked memories of all kinds Bill. I'm one of those who drove the Chevy to the levy ... and wondered when will they ever learn?

      Sad but fun to read Bill. Thanks for the memories.

      Voted up, useful, awesome, and interesting. Shared and pinned.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Larry! This one was fun to write and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Good luck at the gym. :)

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      Larry Kitzmann 4 years ago

      Once again Bill well done my friend. To many memories like waiting to see if my lottery # would be called along with many of my friends. Whether it was Bob Dylan or Phil Ochs they spoke to us in song that our parents would never understand. From Kent State to ?? well you get the idea. As always my friend many thanks and have a good day.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      mckbirdbks, thank you so much. I am honored that you are sharing this. I was fairly pleased with this one myself, but affirmation is always nice.

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      mckbirdbks 4 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      What an incredible write. The free flow was nothing short of spectacular. It is written as if in one setting but the flow of facts and song lyric phases were certainly gathered. Not often I read something outside those I follow here in the hallow halls of hubpages of such a caliber. I will share this.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hey Brandi....twice? Thanks twice. I'm really glad you liked this....this is me out on a shaky branch hoping I don't fall off, and your words just kept me up. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hi Graham! Pensive? Me? Perhaps just a bit, buddy. I never know where my mind is going to take me. Thanks so much for stopping by.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lizzy....Buffalo Springfield.....a precursor to Crosby, Stills, & Nash....great song, great reference....you were born in the wrong time my dear.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Eric, thank you so much. I didn't know what to expect as far as responses....this is as different as I can get....I wasn't sure many people would catch all the references. :) Thanks for the smile you gave me.

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      CraftytotheCore 4 years ago

      I read it through twice. I understood it loud with clarity! Now I need to take a moment of silence. Thank you Billy for putting it in perspective.

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      Graham Lee 4 years ago from Lancashire. England.

      Hi Bill. Great as usual Bill. Do I detect a pensive mood today?

      Graham.

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      Liz Davis 4 years ago from Hudson, FL

      This article brought another song to mind:

      "There's something happening here.

      What it is ain't exactly clear . . . "

      For what it's worth (like that?), don't we miss the days when ignorance was bliss--before we knew that multi-billion-dollar corporations and a corrupt government would sell lies and shed innocent blood in order to make a buck?

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      You just dropped my jaw -- I will come back and read this real slow. But you are the master! This free flow format is awesome -- you can write in every style - I am amazed.

      Of course the story line is like looking into a mirror.

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Maria. It's hard to write a timepiece like this because so many people just won't get the references....I'm glad you did.

      love,

      bill

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      Maria Jordan 4 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

      Well, I was alive and oh, you said it all, Bill...this one is exercising my tear ducts, big time....

      "Can music save your mortal soul".... Oh man, I hope so...thank you, I needed this, my friend. Love, Maria

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Janine, any day I'm out of bed is a great day. Thank you! I played with metaphors a lot in this and I hope those who were not born then can understand it.

      Have a wonderful day!

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      Janine Huldie 4 years ago from New York, New York

      I wasn't alive at this point, but you seem to capture the essence and this time quite perfectly from all I heard. And that really was a day that changed life for so many young and old that day. Thanks for sharing your memories and take on it, Bill. Now just hoping you are having a great Tuesday today!