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Sharia in the West?

Updated on October 16, 2009

 For those of you who don't want religious bodies to have political power, opposers of Sharia law in Britain will participate the celebration of the Universal Children's Day and  International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women in London (London in England, not any of the umpteen Londons in North America) at November 21st 2009, 12-02 pm, at North Carriage Drive, between Stanhope Place Gate and Albion Gate, in Hyde Park. (The closest underground station - or subway for the yanks - is Marble Arch). They welcome all sympathizers to participate; more info at

At present, some Islamistic groups seem most keen to rule, but certain Christian fundamentalists are not much better; I am thinking, for example, of that vociferous clique calling itself "the silent majority".

My own country - Sweden - had a state church right up to the turn of the millennium. Until the beginning of the 1950:es, you could leave the state church only if entering another Christian church.

And one Swedish citizen still has no freedom of religion:

The king must, according to present law, be of Lutheran confession.

So please - can't someone make a Quaker out of him? At least one member of his family has been one, and it might finally make Sweden a free republic...

(Although the Quakerish pacifism won't guarantee that a Quaker chief of state will be a pacifist, as shown by the case of Richard Nixon. Well, every family has its black sheep, I suppose.)

I have no Muslim background myself, and I have never been persecuted by Muslims, but I have some friends who have; and I have experienced Christian intolerance, being the apostate sun of a Protestant clergyman. Still, that's milder nowadays. I haven't been threatened with execution.

And I just came to think of one detail:

Even if Sharia laws would be permitted, it could only be practiced among Muslims, and a Muslim is a person who wants to be a Muslim - not just any child of Muslim parents (same as I am not a Christian just because my parents tried to make me one).

So a person who doesn't believe in Islam, quite irrespetive whether he or she has once done it or not, is not a Muslim.

And a Non-Muslim can under no circumstances be the subject of Muslim jurisdiction.


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      nokufar 7 years ago

      United states was founded on christianity but allows same sex marrieges.

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      GeniusMuslim 8 years ago


      I think you know little of sharia..I'm a Muslim and in Islam tax on the infidles is the same exact taxes you pay in the US it just has another name the "jizyah". Even Muslims pay tax and it is part of The Islamic religion it is given the term "alms".

      Concerning murders and family issues I think this has nothing to do with Islam, I mean I can't say that Americans are all "bad" just because they have the highest rates of murders on all levels, it's just that some people have issues. With that in mind better read about Islam and you can see the teachings clear as crystal.

      The final point about the Tuqyah..this is a way that shiaa's move upon to so what ever they want, it is not a part of Islam and it is far enough from authentic.

      Shiaa originated 250 years after the prophet of Islam PBUH that why most of their actions should be disregarded.

      Back to the article, Gunnar, what you said is not anti-Islam...even in an Islamic state ..sharia laws are applied on Muslims only and each faith goes with it own judicial and legislative systems....You could call that democratic.

      Finally and sorry for taking too long, you can never be a true Muslim without accepting Islam fully, that's why a child whose parent are Muslim and he does not want to he's free...Islam won't be accepted from him anyways not until he realizes it solid creed and accepts it.

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Religious fundamentalists of every stripe have a lot in common--intolerance of other views, preoccupation with virginity, homosexuality, masturbation and other sexual issues and practices, tendency to justify violence to extend or defend their faith, subjugation of women, food restrictions and so forth. The Quakers and Unitarians are the most harmless of Western religions. I'm not familiar enough with Eastern religions to make a judgment. However I've read recently that Hindu fundamentalists in India are stirring up trouble with Pakistan and Muslims in India. A pox on all of them!

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      vrajavala 8 years ago from Port St. Lucie

      unfortunately, Sharia law requires that infidels pay a tax. Many infidels also have to convert or die. Women who live under Sharia law have to face terrible tragedies daily. Even here in the USA, there have been brutal murders of women by their families.

      Then there is something called taqqiya, which allows a Muslim to lie for the purpose of infiltrating and moving the caliph forward. many suspect that such a person is Barack Hussein Obama