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Socialized Medicine Kills

Updated on April 29, 2018
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Chiquita is in the Kitchen

Good Morning, Breakfastpoppers. Today is Sunday, April 29, 2018. Our noisy friend, Chiquita Cicada, is at the stove preparing hot coffee and raisin coffee cake for breakfast. Chiquita has asked for the pleasure of your company this morning. She is mourning the tragic death of Alfie Evans, a 23-month-old toddler who died at the hands of socialized medicine in the UK. The world watched as his embattled parents desperately tried to get medical care for their child. Be careful what you wish for.

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Denied

Thanks so much for coming to the breakfast table this morning. Alfie Evans died, a victim of socialized medicine in the U.K. His parents, Tom and Kate fought long and hard to keep their son alive. They were at odds with doctors and a system that decided little Alfie was better off dead. They were not free to remove their child from the hospital. In effect, he was held prisoner by a system that not only failed Alfie, but is failing all U.K. citizens. Can you imagine what a parent must feel like being told by the government that their child must die? The hospital staff at the Adler Hey Children's Hospital disagreed with Alfie's parents over the direction of his treatment. The hospital opted to remove the toddler's life support system, and by doing so they moved to remove the parent's parental rights. Judges in the U.K. agreed with the decision to end Alfie's life. There was another avenue of hope for the little boy. Italy had offered to take the child in, make him a citizen and treat him. Again, the U.K. denied his rights. It is apparent that they wanted to end little Alfie's life, and that is exactly what they did by refusing to allow the family to leave. This is a perfect example of a government's belief that it can decide the issue of life and death. Welcome to socialized medicine at its worst. Be careful what you wish for.

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Read the Fine Print

Socialized medicine is not the answer to healthcare. Britain's Nationalized Health System is failing. Proponents of socialized medicine in our country could learn a thing or two if they study the U.K. The situation in Britain is melting down and reaching a breaking point. The supply of doctors and nurses is slowly dwindling. The needs of patients are rising and the end result is a shortage of care. A shortage of care leads to rationing. I would imagine that the tragic death of little Alfie Evans is a hideous example of what happens when care is rationed. The hospital in Britain and the judges who backed the hospital believed that investing money to treat Alfie was a waste of their limited resources. Alfie lost his chance at life because he was sentenced to death by a panel of strangers. Allowing Alfie's parents to leave the country took this tragedy a step further. It seems that the failed system was trying to prove that their wishes trumped those of the grieving parents and suffering child. It would seem that the system demands total adherence to the wishes of strangers. Free will is dead in Britain when it comes to healthcare. Alfie's parents were treated like subjects of the Kingdom. They lost their rights when they sought care from the government. Be careful what you wish for.

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A Slow Ride to Care

Waiting times to receive medical care in Britain are rising at an alarming rate. It has been reported that a wait of 12 hours to be seen is not at all unusual. Appointments are cancelled in order to free up more doctors. If the "system" doesn't deem your case to be a priority, you might as well go home. When hospitals reach a breaking point, they issue something called a "black alert." A "black alert" means that the hospital is at a complete loss to cope with the demands being placed upon it. If this isn't a crisis, then I don't know what is. Socialized medicine in the U.K. doesn't work. It didn't work for Alfie. It failed that little boy, and it is doing the same to thousands of other people in need of care.

The United States has much to learn from Britain's experience with socialized medicine. We need to come up with a better system in our country. Cries for socialized medicine are nothing more than a prescription for failure. We need to learn from the experience of countries like Britain. We need to lift the constraints placed upon healthcare facilities. The workings of the VA are a perfect example of healthcare run amok. The VA works for some Vets, but the reality is that it operates much like the system in Britain. Long waiting periods, needless deaths, shortages of doctors and nurses and quality of care that is mediocre at best characterize the VA and Britain's national healthcare system, Wanting to get something for nothing in the form of socialized medicine translates to getting nothing for nothing. Be carful what you wish for.


Chiquita's Song.

I'm Chiquita Cicada

And I'm here to say

Socialized medicine

Should stay away!

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    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      11 months ago

      Good Morning, Jennifer,

      Wow, you must be full. You've had so many breakfasts, and I have enjoyed your company and your comments. Imagine how the vets feel when they have to wait forever for treatment. See you at the Inn, my treat.

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      Jennifer 

      11 months ago

      Very scary to have your government have control over your health. A wish I certainly would not wish for.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning Jennifer,

      Perfect summary for a perfectly hideous system. See you at the Inn.

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      Jennifer 

      12 months ago

      Sickening and very scary all the way around.

      See you at the Inn

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      Susana Serer 

      12 months ago from UK

      tsadjatko - I said very clearly in my initial comment that I believe doctors have far too much power.

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      Susana Serer 

      12 months ago from UK

      I've been doing a little research and it seems that ethics committees are very common, if not mandatory, in US hospitals. This means that people other than the family are involved in making decisions about withdrawing life support just as in UK hospitals.

      "What does an ethics committee or program do?

      Historically, ethics committees involve individuals from diverse backgrounds who support health care institutions with three major functions: providing clinical ethics consultation, developing and/or revising policies pertaining to clinical ethics and hospital policy (e.g., advance directives, withholding and withdrawing life-sustaining treatments, informed consent, organ procurement), and facilitating education about topical issues in clinical ethics."

      https://depts.washington.edu/bioethx/topics/ethics...

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      Susana Serer 

      12 months ago from UK

      tsadjatko I don't believe doctors should always decide what's best for the child. I said in my comment that I feel they have way too much power. As far as consistency, I'm not looking at this as a black or white issue. There are many factors to consider.

      I'm interested how it works in the US for someone on life support who has no chance of life beyond being kept alive by machine. Are they just kept on life support indefinitely?

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Apparently, this hospital and others in the UK have salvaged organs from dead babies without parental permission. I sincerely doubt that this hospital, in particular, had the best interests of little Alfie at heart. This child suffered along with his parents.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      12 months ago from now on

      I'm curious suzanna when you say "It was about doctors deciding what was best for the child which was in contrast to what the parents wanted." Then if you believe the doctors should decide what is best for the child then you must feel that way about abortion too. I mean in deciding whether to have an abortion or not do you believe the doctors should be deciding what is best for the unborn child or the mother? Seems if you are consistent you would choose the doctors' opinion over the mother's right to choose. That's logical but somehow I think you'd want to wiggle out of that logic.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning Susanna,

      I find nothing at all humane about the way doctor's treated Alfie. Ultimately, the doctor's usurped parental rights. In this case there was a hospital and doctors willing to take the case. How could that be bad?

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning TSAD,

      Thanks for the analysis of Happy's so-called analysis. Frankly, I didn't have the energy to take it any further than I did. I'm "happy" you did!

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      Susana Serer 

      12 months ago from UK

      The outcome of this case wasn't anything to do with having a socialised health care system. It was about doctors deciding what was best for the child which was in contrast to what the parents wanted. As a parent it would be excruciatingly hard to turn off the switch that you know will result in the death of your beloved child. Some just can't do it. We'd all be clutching at straws I'm sure, and we can't blame Alfie's parents for doing so.

      The doctor's responsibility is for the welfare of the patient and they believed that keeping Alfie alive artificially was inhumane. It wasn't an issue of cost.

      Personally, I find that doctors the world over have way to much power. They should have let the parents take Alfie home to die if that's what they wanted. Sadly, many doctors are blinkered by their medical training and believe that the patient NEEDS to be in hospital to be cared for in the last days of life. I disagree.

      I'm not sure what I think about taking Alfie to Italy. I believe the parents should be allowed to but I'm pretty sure Alfie would have died on the journey. So was it right that doctor's stepped in to stop that and prevent more suffering for the child? Who should have ultimate say over a child's life - parents or doctors?

    • tsadjatko profile image

      12 months ago from now on

      "The U.S. stands 50th in the world with a life expectancy of 78.49." - Life expectancy in Canada is 80.4."~Mr. Happy

      Mr Happy is drinking too much Happy Juice!

      The 2017 stats put the US at 43rd UNITED STATES 80.00 2017 EST. and Canada 21st CANADA 81.90 2017 EST.

      https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world...

      However on these types of statistics the margin of error is plus or minus 4 years so a difference within the margin of error between Canada and the US is meaningless. In polls two candidates polling within the margin of error is considered a toss up.

      Which means basically almost all the top 100 could be roughly a toss up. And there is nothing in these statistics that correlates the life expectancy with the type of healthcare. All types of mortality that have nothing to do with healthcare are considered in the figures, gun deaths, automobile deaths, suicides, you name it.

      So once again I wonder what it is that makes Mr. Happy, Mr. Happy. It must be short for hapless analysis.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Dear AB,

      I can't believe that the system blocked Alfie from going to Italy for care. I didn't realize that Britain was a dictatorship! The whole thing is beyond tragic.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Dear Mr. Happy,

      I m happy you are happy with your health insurance. Little Alfie was not as lucky as you.

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      A B Williams 

      12 months ago from Central Florida

      Hi Pop - I neglected to scroll through before publishing my take on this horrific outcome, I never want to step on anyone's toes, especially yours.

      Great job on this, with a lot of information provided.

      I've been very emotional about this, since I first learned the hospital removed life support and as it went downhill from there, with shut door after shut door in the face of this young couple.....heartbreaking!

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      Mr. Happy 

      12 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      Even with Obamacare, the United States of America has nearly thirty million people without health care coverage. Now, how many people are going to the United States from Canada to have some medical procedures done? Well, not thirty million that's for sure. Haha!! So, stop pointing fingers at Canada, or Canada will point fingers back. : )

      "The U.S. stands 50th in the world with a life expectancy of 78.49." - Life expectancy in Canada is 80.4. So, we're still living longer in Canada than You guys down south are.

      Alrighty, hopefully this comment did not ruffle your feathers enough to censor my comment as You have done previously. All the best!

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning mv,

      Yes, I need a little Irish in my coffee, as well. Little Alfie died because the British government rules over its subjects with an uncaring iron fist. Alfie was sentenced to a tragic and painful death at the same time that the royals welcomed a new baby. The contrast is sickening. I'll save you a seat at the Inn.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning Paula,

      Yes we mourn this little child's death and our hearts go out to Alfie's parents who fought so valiantly to get him treatment. It is impossible to imagine something like this happening in a civilized nation. The Brits must realize by now that they are not free at all. See you at the Inn.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning Billy,

      Being healthy makes socialized medicine seem like a good deal. Trouble comes when you need care, and good and timely care is hard to come by. Years ago, I worked for a neurologist. It was common to have patients from Canada's flawed system cross over into our country so that they could receive treatment. Waiting for most of these people was equivalent to a death sentence. I also had a friend who lived in the UK who was being treated for breast cancer, The treatment seemed terribly outdated to me. Sadly, she passed away. I still wonder what would have happened if she came here.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning Pino,

      Remember Charlie Gard. He was another recent and publicized case of murder by government. Just imagine all the victims we never heard about. It is sickening, no pun intended. See you at the Inn. I'll bring banana cake for dessert!

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      12 months ago

      Good Morning taxlarry,

      It's great to hear from you again. Yes, shame on the Brits for sentencing this child to death. This isn't the first time it has happened and it won't be the last. The system is so strained that more and more people will fall off the radar. See you at the Inn, taxlarry.

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      maven101 

      12 months ago from Northern Arizona

      Death due to starvation, dehydration, and asphyxiation is "humane"..? The British government makes and enforces laws for its subjects... Etymologically, "subject" means "thrown under"...Brits have been a "ruled" people for over a thousand years...Social discipline has infiltrated every branch of human society there... If you think we have a good ol' boy network here in the US it is nothing compared to the entrenched bureaucracy of Whitehall...

      Shame on the British government, treating Alfie's parents with such condescension and outright arrogance and disrespect for their parental rights...

      Please ask Chiquita to put a little Irish in my coffee...Britain may have ruled the waves, now they rule the graves...

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      Paula 

      13 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      I see. Here we have a grotesquely wretched portrait to numb our senses. The same week, an outrageously privileged "ROYAL" couple welcomes their third baby in England, a "commoners" precious child is left to die before the age of 2.

      Louie Armstrong will not be singing, "It's a Wonderful World," in the background, any time soon.

      Time to gaze long and hard. Time to stand at attention. Never to allow more and more of our lives to be ruled by a government, that hasn't the slightest concept of the true value and sanctity of every human life. The bold reality is, we need to take back our lives and cut the imbeciles off at the pass.

      We mourn with Alfie's loved ones. There's a deafening silence at the Inn.

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      Bill Holland 

      13 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I don't know enough about Britain's system to comment. I like to actually know something before I open my mouth, so I'll leave you to your opinion on this one. I can see good and bad in socialized healthcare. Not sure where I stand on it, so I'll just draw the wrath from both sides on this one.

      Besides, I'm healthy! lol Have a great day, Pop!

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      Pino Krisio 

      13 months ago

      Good Morning Pop:

      This is very sad. Socialized medicine does not work, and this child is not the only case. 'Cries for socialized medicine" are from the extreme left. The question they raise is " don;t you want free medicine?" How can anyone say no to that question; however you need to look further into what you would be getting. In Britain, at a certain age you cannot get knee replacements, hip replacements, etc. Why? because you are old and the cost does not outweigh the benefit to the person needed the treatment. Very sick indeed!

      I am off to the Inn. I love raisin coffee cake (especially since it does not have bananas in it!)

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      taxlarry 

      13 months ago

      Shame on socialized medicine in the UK. I hope the Brits are proud their system killed Alfie. Shame on their legal system that also killed him. How could a judge tell his family they can't bring their child to Italy for treatment? The UK legal system is as good as their health system. DEADLY!

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      13 months ago

      Good Morning TSAD,

      I like the words, but it's hard to dance to. See you at the Inn.

    • breakfastpop profile imageAUTHOR

      breakfastpop 

      13 months ago

      Good Morning, Tom.

      I love what you said, and with your permission I will quote you in the future. Enjoy the day and see you at the Inn.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      13 months ago from now on

      Uncle Sam don't 'low no socialism 'round here,

      Uncle Sam don't 'low no socialism 'round here!

      They don't care what Unc' Sam don't 'low

      They gonna kill us anyhow

      Unc' Sam don't 'low no socialism round here!

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      Tom Whitworth 

      13 months ago from Moundsville, WV

      Pop and Chiquita,

      There is nothing good to draw from this story for little Alfie and his parents. At least the parents fought to the best of their ability for him.

      The good that could come from this is it's clarion call of warning to others in this world. Don't give your lives to big government. The warning of any government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take it all away could save misery to many.

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