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The Anti-Tea Party Party

Updated on March 30, 2011

I was having a discussion the other day with a fellow hubber about the Tea Party movement (TPM). I won't go too much into it, you can check it out yourself if you like, but what it essentially amounted to was that our fiscal situation is serious and the current members of Congress are completely unable or unwilling to enact the painful changes necessary to right the ship. The solution offered was to throw out enough of these existing Congressman (of any political flavor) and replace them with members of the Tea Party.

Basically the argument amounts to this: Our spending level is around 100, Democrats argue for 110, and Republicans argue for 90, which puts us in the stalemate in which we find ourselves. We need spending to be around 60 and the only way to make that happen is to overthrow Congress with TPM members. Here is what it looks like.

This is not however an accurate representation of spending. Spending isn't a flat line; it also has a shape. For any given pile of money people and groups will spend money differently. Each particular spending package therefore has a particular shape. Through negotiation and compromise (otherwise known as democracy) they settle upon a final package. It looks more like the following. Keep in mind there aren't necessarily only two options - in reality there are multiple proposals.

The idea of having TPM in complete control of the budget process is a mistake. While, they may in fact reduce spending, the shape of their spending package will only reflect a narrow ideology. The point that I was arguing is that other ideological voices, who also share the TPM's fiscal concerns should be a part of the decision-making process. I didn't really seem to make much headway with my argument. They seemed to be of the opinion that there is no such thing as a fiscally disciplined liberal. This simply is not true.

There may be some truth that there aren't many fiscally responsibly Democrats in Washington, there aren't many fiscally responsibly Congressman at all, so that doesn't really mean much.

With the TPM completely in charge here is what their spending package might look like. You can see that spending is off from what it should be if it were ideologically balanced.

The TPM is going to have to accept that they are not going to get everything that they want. They have little choice but to negotiate with opposing ideologies that will almost certainly propose a package of greater spending with entirely different priorities. Below is how the process should unfold.

So who are these fiscally responsible liberals? There probably are some in Congress now who are fiscally reasonable, but really it is more of something you would have to find in certain think-tanks and blogs. They just haven't, that I know of, coalesced into any sort of cohesive group. For now, I am just going to have to call them the Anti-Tea Party.


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      TeaPartyCrasher 6 years ago from Camp Hill, PA


      Read some of my hubs on the "TEA Party"; start with "Who's Pouring That Tea".

      As for your "Anti-Tea Party"; read "Wisconsin Wakes Up", another one of my Hubs.

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      junkseller 6 years ago from Michigan

      @ Terry - And if they just had a little bit more money they could start hiring people. Haha.

      The corporate tax code seems bizarre to me. The technical rate, which is high, probably hurts smaller companies and new investment, but then doesn't collect money from the big money-makers, so fails twice.

      I've heard the Tea Party talk about cutting corporate taxes. Haven't heard them say much about enforcement.

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      junkseller 6 years ago from Michigan

      @American Romance - I'm not really sure very many people in Congress are serious about spending cuts at all - including Republicans. They seem more interested in using the spending cuts as a means to accomplish their ideological desired ends. There is the "gang of six" who have put forth a somewhat serious bipartisan spending cut package. Maybe it is a start.

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      junkseller 6 years ago from Michigan

      @GNelson - I think money is a huge problem, but haven't heard many good ideas how to fix it. Actually a fellow hubber, VoltaireZ, has an interesting idea to increase the number of representatives in Congress. Representing fewer people might bring them closer to the people and farther from the money. His hub is here:

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      Terry.Hirneisen 6 years ago from Shenandoah Valley

      Yet we ignore corporations that earn huge profits and PAY ZERO TAXES and turn around and get billions in rebates from IRS.

      1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

      2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.

      3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the IRS.

      Do you not find it strange that a $40,000 a year worker pays more than an entire corporation in taxes??

      What is wrong with you TEA Party folks. What is in that Tea?

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      American Romance 6 years ago from America

      were spending 70 billion a day and yet they are argueing over 61 billion in cuts over the next year? NO one is serious yet! MOre MORE by the Republicans!

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      GNelson 6 years ago from Florida

      Washington DC is not going to solve any proplems. They create them. Money buys votes so they go for the money and do whatever they want.