ArtsAutosBooksBusinessEducationEntertainmentFamilyFashionFoodGamesGenderHealthHolidaysHomeHubPagesPersonal FinancePetsPoliticsReligionSportsTechnologyTravel

The Facts Behind the 2012 Presidential Debate

Updated on October 12, 2012

The American public is hammered with facts, counter-facts, spin on facts, lies, distortions, and half truths in 2012 Presidential election and debates. One side presents it in a manner that is true, but only only partially true; while the other side, does the same. It has so many times already, what is the reality with some issues?

On Libya, regarding the Obama administrations spin, and VP Biden stated that additional security requests had not been received prior to the terrorist attack, is simply false. Call it a lie, call it the truth in that, as far what Biden actually knew then. Yet, what Paul Ryan stated was true. There had been many more security requests that had been turned down or ignored. The issue is why would not a marine detachment be assigned to the embassy as a precaution? The Obama administration has no valid reason. It is hard to admit failure.

As to the often discourse on the General Motors issue, the fact is, it was NOT the Obama administration that saved it. The bailout actually had begun under President Bush and the baton was handed over to Obama in 2008, which continued it. The claim that is was the Democrats that saved GM, is only 50% true.

As to the Obamacare medical board of 15. This is an independent advisory board and part of the overhaul. It does have the power to force cuts in Medicare if costs rise above specified levels. This board's intervention is not expected to do much until 2018 because medicare costs are rising only moderately.

Tax cuts. Obama proposed roll back cuts reach down to a single person earning over $200K\yr. or couples earning $250K.

On Iran, the problem with this issue is nobody REALLY knows, just estimates are known. As of now, most feel Iran has no nuclear material to produce a nuclear bomb, although, it is known that Iran is working on a delivery system for it. Of course, it is changing every month, and maybe by Jan. 2013, they will have enough. As to sanctions, Ryan is correct. The sanctions have 20 exemptions for 20 countries. Countries like China, India, Japan, all continue to buy Iran's oil, which IS there main export and revenue. The sanctions are like swiss cheese, only partially effective and tend to make life hard on the average Iranian, not the rich or government. Sanctions simply are failing at this point.

The democrats assert that they saved $716 billion and applied it to Medicare. Obama is cutting this amount over 10 years in Medicare payments to providers and most of the money is being used to expand health care coverage outside of Medicare.


    0 of 8192 characters used
    Post Comment

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      It would be nice to have the best of both.

    • Michele Travis profile image

      Michele Travis 

      6 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      This is a great hub. To be honest, I don't like either one of them. I would rather have Scooby Doo For President.

      Sorry, I know I am an idiot.

      Vote up.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Not at all!

    • profile image


      6 years ago

      You're in CA, aren't you required to vote for the Dems?

    • Dorsi profile image

      Dorsi Diaz 

      6 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

      Thanks for breaking this down into an easy to understand hub. Voted up!

    • CMerritt profile image

      Chris Merritt 

      6 years ago from Pendleton, Indiana

      Perry, I love it. Just tell it like it is! They (the liberals) like to keep it complicated, but the bottom line is, it is just plain and simple facts.

      Great hub!


    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      well, they want your vote!

    • carol7777 profile image

      carol stanley 

      6 years ago from Arizona

      Good assessment and it really makes me mad that these politicians just lie with sense of consciousness. What is even worse is that people belief anything they hear if it comes from the right party.


    This website uses cookies

    As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

    For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at:

    Show Details
    HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
    LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
    Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
    AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
    HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
    HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
    Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
    CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
    Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the or domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
    Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
    Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
    Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
    Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
    Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
    Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
    Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
    ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
    Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)