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The Right-winger’s Rebuttal: So, The Empire Strikes Back?
This is written in response to and recognition of a ballsy and obvious well accomplished fellow hubber, with whom I strongly disagree. While I go to my blue corner and he to his red as its standard bearer, I draw my sword (pen) prepared to do battle. I have to admire his courage for facing me with his attempt to defend the indefensible. So much unlike other conservative types that run when confronted and ‘put on the spot’ regarding what lies behind their opinions and views. While I attack, it is not personal but it meant to counter arguments that are frequently heard from the generic Right-winger. The hub is made up of his reply (comment) to my recent hub “Right-winger: Who are you calling Anti-American”. I will clearly identify the excerpts, in un-bold text, a portion of the comment . My answer will be in bold text.
There is more anti-Americanism among Americans today than ever before and plenty of evidence exists of this right here on HubPages. Anti-Americanism is taught in our public schools, dominates our universities, and is the lens through which most of our media sees the world. Anti-Capitalists are anti-American. Anti-Christ is anti-American. Multiculturalism is anti-American. Socialism is anti-American
Sounds like more of that witch hunt stuff. What you call Anti-American is what I considered a diversity of views and opinions. Are you afraid of the natural interaction of ideas and the resulting differences of opinion? What makes you this great oracle that sees and knows all? Anti-Christ is a reference to those that do not subscribe to the Judeo-Christian faith. Well, perhaps you have heard of the First Amendment to the Constitution that does not prescribe litmus tests in regards to religious affiliation or lack there of to determine whether you are ‘American’ or not. Under that premise, it is ludicrous to say that a non-Christian is Anti-American. So, what is Socialism, was it the New Deal, Social Security, the advent of Medicare? Are you ready to call FranklinDelano Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson Marxists, un-American? So Multiculturalism is Anti-American, is it? Multiculturalism is a fact, like the sun rising, are you opposed to that? So what is the “American Culture”? There has to be a sort of smugness and arrogance in your view that every American citizen has to toe your line. Let’s get down to brass tacks, what is your line? Is it all WASP, and subsets of that who belong to the Pro-America group? If so, that implies racism and xenophobia to me. Why don’t you clarify yourself here? But, you would never admit to that because then a lot more than just your slip would be showing. I have news for you and your co-conspirators, this multicultural trend is advancing by the day and I strongly suggest that you not get your panties in a bunch but take two aspirin and call your doctor in the morning. Your inferences are ‘dead on arrival’ and you can rest assured that I as well as other multiculturalists are not just going to disappear.
The church Obama attended for twenty years is certainly anti-American—that's why he says he doesn't remember the sermons.
And I suppose that kooky church that Sarah Palin was associated with gets a free pass, huh? I think what you are saying is that Black people are intrinsically Anti-American; you are going down a dangerous slope here. Consequently, I am going to take me pen and carve you up like a roast for it. With so much of the Republican right adhering to this nonsense, is it any wonder that you get only a token African-American vote? I guess the Hispanic Catholics have reason to be concerned, as well?
The most intolerant people in America are those who preach tolerance.
That is debatable, please elaborate. History shows that the right-winger is the epitome of bigotry and intolerance.
You are mistaken that right-wingers use doublespeak—the Left invented doublespeak and are the undisputed masters of it. See Herbert Marcuse or Saul Alinsky.
The right has far outstripped the left when it comes to these terms referring to patriotism that when examined closely, never hold water. Your statement is just a matter of opinion.
Right-wingers are far more susceptible to charges of hypocrisy, of course, because if you are a moral relativist that claims no objective set of values then you cannot be a hypocrite. Only by having standards, which you fall short of, can you be a hypocrite.
You have your own set of values, but I have my set and who says that yours are any better than mine? Of course, you do, but that is not good enough. I would think that it would be great if you kept your values to yourself and let each of us define values and what that means for ourselves, if you don’t mind
Rightwingers are not feeble minded, leftwingers are. To be "broad-minded" is simply to be lazy intellectually. It means you cannot grasp right from wrong and even if you do you lack the guts to say so. That is feeble minded.
To be broad minded means to accept the fact that YOU are not the great arbiter of the universe. Only God can do that and YOU certainly are not HE. It is having the humility to accept that your way may very well not be the way of your neighbor. We know right and wrong, and we have to agree to that as defined by law not by your caprice. Do I not see tyranny peeking? This big blue marble is a global village, and you need to get use to fact that “your way or the highway” ain’t going to cut it.
Joseph McCarthey was not a good person but he was absolutely right that Communists had infiltrated our government and wanted to overthrow it and were spying for the Soviets even in our nuclear programs.
The Rosenberg’s were convicted of espionage and executed accordingly. That was a case of treason, and that is against the law. I and my fellow citizens have the right to think and freely associate as we choose. Are you advocating some sort of “thought police”? That stuff about overthrowing the government is just so much nonsense; you will need to do more than just parrot right-winger dogma. According to J. Edgar Hoover, Martin Luther King was a Communist sympathizer trying to overthrow the Government, get real. You people make me sick. It is no wonder you are all so anxious and resentful.
Most of the founders of labor unions were communist sympathizers. After all, "workers of the world unite" is a Marxist slogan.
Well, in my opinion the only difference between a slave and employee is an arbiter. You people seem to always forget that the exploitation of labor has been a cornerstone of American history and the history of other societies as well. You had better thank the existence of the middle class with fair expectations of those that employ them as stemming the tide against the Marxist revolution you folks talk about all of the time.
You demonize conservatives while tossing around the most insulting adjectives to describe them and yet wonder why we do not have a "harmonious union." 40 percent of American identify themselves as conservative—20 percent as liberals. Progressive agitators have created the disharmony in our land—not those with traditional American values, who are only playing defense.
I demonize right-wingers and as I state in my article, there is a difference.. The right-winger is a fanatic seeking to enslave us all under this moral priggishness and a racist and xenophobia perspective they disguise as patriotism. Your percentages are relative and are subject to debate, I don’t follow Fox news or read your typical right-wing rag. Progressive agitators, huh, it sounds a great deal like George Wallace or Bull Conner circa, 1962, do I need to elaborate? If doing things your way is going to bring on more harmony, then I say let’s have disharmony! And you can bet your bottom dollar that I am going to make my voice clear at the voting booth.
Someone who writes "Our country has an ugly history, scarred with ignorance and hatred" is anti-American. America has the greatest history of any nation in the history of the world—though all nations are flawed because all people are flawed.
The fact that I am American does not mean that I am not ‘intellectually honest’ and fail to recognize its shortcomings. Is that not a mature way to go about it? I would be lying if I said, that in regards to your first sentence, that it was not true. With you guys, it is always so simplistic: “America right or wrong” or you are a communist. Right and wrong does not necessarily have geographic or cultural boundaries. The right-winger’s 19th century mindset makes it hard for them to visualize a more evolved reasoning process.
Anti-Americanism is built on ingratitude, envy, and covetousness. How can anyone be so ungrateful to have been born an American? They envy people more successful than they are and covet the possessions other people have earned that they haven't.
We are American and we are grateful. But a good life or bad life is not always based on mere possession and material wealth, you ought to go back to your scriptures and see for yourself. I am not going to stick my head into the ground and ignore right and wrong as you are so fond of saying merely to fit in with your paradyme. That paragraph is again unsubstantiated and is just dogma. The question of ‘earned’ is too, a matter of opinion. When you look at American multinationals companies as an example, you have taken a lot as well.
It has been a pleasure responding to your comment and hope that this makes my position all the more clear, so how say you?