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To Kneel Or Stand During The National Anthem

Updated on October 23, 2017

To Kneel Or Stand During The National Anthem

This is something that I find very interesting in the United States. How an issue like this, which has absolutely nothing to do with the flag, or the Anthem or the veterans who served and for those who died in the military.

It actually has absolutely nothing to do with football or the anthem or the vets. Football just happen to be the platform that stance was taken in the first place. Yet, Trump called the players SOB's. This knelling stance has nothing to do with the players disgracing the Anthem, the flag, football or even our veterans.

The football players are taking a stance against police brutality, racial inequality, racial injustice, police murdering people, and basically anything that has to do with Trump and his callous behavior towards women, people of color and the way that he conducts himself in the Whitehouse.

Overall, that is what the NFL owners and players are taking a stance against, this no standing or kneeling is a stance against Trump, the police, racial inequality, racial indifference, the murdering of people, the harassment of people of color, whether their male or female.

This entire reason of why football players are standing or kneeling has absolutely nothing to do with them not having respect for the veterans of this country or disrespect for the anthem. Trump knows that, he is just using that as an deflection tactic, to steer people away from the real reason why the football players are not standing during the anthem.

Yet, some football organizations are silently forcing players to stand or be unemployed too. The owners of these football organizations basically are dangling a players job over their head, if they do kneel. What does that say about the freedom or the liberties we have in this country? Where a player silently demonstrates his beliefs and feelings by not standing, yet the football organizations sees that as blatant disrespect for the anthem, flag and veterans.

As I stated earlier, that is the farthest from the truths and it is so obvious too. The football players are not disgracing the anthem, or disrespecting the flag or the veterans, they are standing in solidarity against the things Trump has said, and is still doing to this day and to this country.

The stance that is being taken is very important, it says that, we as people, as Americans, are not going be idle and quiet as we see people being murdered, mistreated because of their gender and their ethnicity.

From my personal perspective no one is going to keep me from watching football, I absolutely love football, I love ALL sports, and not even Trump, regardless of what he said about the players, and all of his other antics where he is clearly stepping outside the boundaries of what he was voted in office to do in this country. I will never allow that to deter me from watching or going to actively enjoy the American passtime, which is football.

You choose, whatever stance you decide to take in this matter. We live in a free country of free speech and free action, yet just because you have those rights, it does not give you the right to mistreat others, disrespect them or even murder them.

Everybody has an opinion, such as, "NFL players are whining, are spoiled, they only see things in their own way." How is it, when something does not directly affect another person, he or she do not have the capacity, the inability or the compassion to put themselves in the other person shoes?"

I will leave you with an JFK quote.

As John F. Kennedy quoted almost 60 years ago, The President of the United States should be a moral leader in the crusade for human rights, and 'he or she must exert the great moral and educational force of his office to support the right of every American to stand up for his or her rights, even if on occasion he must sit down for them.'

I kneel with those players not because I do not love the Anthem, this country, and the veterans. I kneel because, it is the right thing to do.


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      CorpGiant 6 months ago from Dallas Texas

      Maxine, you bring up a very interesting point. I believe that it is just a matter of time before all of those women come forward too. Appreciate you reading this hub page. Live Long and Prosper...

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      Tim Truzy 6 months ago from U.S.A.

      We know he makes others hypothetically "kneel" to him. Remember that cabinet meeting where he received praise like a god? I don't know about that man's agenda, but if he thinks playing the "cultural wars" will tear us apart as a nation, he's got another thing coming. It didn't work for Bannon )(he was fired), I hope he doesn't hold ideas of great godliness.

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      Maxine Daniels Foster 6 months ago from Boston MA

      Donald Trump got himself involved with the NFL player who made a choice to knee when the national Anthem was played The Blacks were SOB and should be fired. Why haven't Trump spoke about Harvey Weinstein. Do the president have something to hide?

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      Tim Truzy 6 months ago from U.S.A.

      Thanks, Ken. I like fishing, too. They can play their games - on the field or otherwise - but our nation was built for inclusion and if that's a big challenge for those who want others to move - well, the door swings both ways for that bitter minority of "power to non-color" as well.

      Frankly, I would rather help my wife (which I do) more often. She's from a city here that was instrumental in the sit-ins of the 1960's, so we carry a responsibility. We've seen a lot of situations swim up from the cesspools in the name of making America a state favoring European descendants over all citizens. It's absolutely disgusting, really. But as far as your thoughts: actually, we agree more than disagree.

      People I know have been shot at for our country, serving with all of their hearts in Afghanistan, Iraq, and (my relatives) Vietnam. I've dealt with PTSD in soldiers during counseling sessions, and to a man they said, "We love our nation." A few went on to say, "America is about freedom."

      This means the right to make a fool of oneself as well as conforming. Appropriate behavior? Americans do not know of such a thing when addressing wrongs. Besides, who gave the arrogant people the right to define "appropriate?"

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      Ken Burgess 6 months ago from Florida


      That's just it, and a point you (and others I have discussed this with) don't seem to get.

      I am not interested in their championing of gender norming causes (women coaches, officials, maybe even players soon), I am not interested in their belief that police are preying upon those who are minorities... politics and PC is the new NFL norm, more power to the NFL for it... but that's not what I plan spending my time on, I'm sure the NFL will keep right on without me.

      No NFL means more time for fishing, taking the wife and kids to the range, to the movies, getting chores done around the house, its all good.

      I am just one of many people who after a few weeks without the NFL will actually be thankful that this happened, and realize that moving on was a big positive.

      For myself, I am happy finding something better to do with my time, and won't be tuning in.

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      Tim Truzy 6 months ago from U.S.A.

      Truly, they are not "blue collar" people. That's the point. Most of them went to college and earned degrees, whether that's liked or not. They are richer than us - agreed.

      Not just NFL players disrespect women - Trump, Winestein, Fox TV anchors - the list goes on ....

      What's happening is that people gradually worked and put up with all of the injustices, discrimination, and other crap to succeed. Now, these people are getting to the issue that matter - treatment of fellow Americans. We can hide behind patriotism all we want. It's been done before. Did you know Rosa Parks and Dr. King were called Communists? But for some this doesn't matter. Of course not.

      What is important to the negative portion of our society is to keep the status quo - keep them down. We have given them too much already. (They earned it.)

      I cheer for the NFL players and I cheer the flag and the anthem. There's no inconsistency. If freedom is partially rewarded to some, then freedom is denied all. (Paraphrasing George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D. Roosevelt, LBJ, etc.)

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      Ken Burgess 6 months ago from Florida

      I can't say it is any one thing, or any one issue that has turned me off from the NFL, that killed the passion I had for watching the sport.

      I think for myself, and a great many fans, its simply a culmination of things, which reached a tipping point when politics and protests injected themselves into the game, and became a weekly, a daily storyline.

      Before this, too many games being decided by the officials, players who beat their wives and children who continue to play, games every day of the week rather than Sunday...

      I think a lot of us are just waking up, and realizing these aren't players we can relate to anymore, these aren't hardworking blue-collar guys, these are spoiled brats, clueless kids that have been pampered and handed more money than we will earn in our lifetimes, and they don't represent any ideals I want to pass onto my children.

      This video says it well, if not encompassing all the points I make:

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      Tim Truzy 6 months ago from U.S.A.

      Yes, but that famous entertainer, Donald Trump lectures quite often. There are people getting "away with murder," (legally), every day. I pray for a quick resolution to the problem, but people of color have joked for decades about the abuses and excessive of the police. I've been a victim of such tactics, and the courts swiftly dismissed the case.

      Our forum will be any opportunity we have to present it: NFL, NBA, MLB, internet, among friends, lectures, and whatever else it takes. The work of Susan B. Anthony, Dr. Martin Luther King, and others has not ceased. It's no secret, the historic system which is still subtle and in place seeks to place a "stain" on every man, woman, and child of color, as recorded by several research documents and newspapers like the New York Times.

      Your article is informative and revealing. The young quarterback asks the only relevant question: What good is entertainment if you are not being treated equally by the law.

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      Ken Burgess 6 months ago from Florida

      You state: "How an issue like this, which has absolutely nothing to do with the flag, or the Anthem or the veterans who served and for those who died in the military."

      This is incorrect, Kaepernick specifically stated he would not stand for the flag, or show respect to the country that oppresses him and his people.

      Not a verbatim quote, one actual quote: "“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color,” Kaepernick told Steve Wyche of NFL Media. “To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting away with murder"

      So this is about our country, our military, our police. This individual who made tens of millions of dollars to play a sport, feels oppressed, feels this nation oppresses others, because of the color of their skin.

      I don't know about anyone else, but I have lost all patience with Hollywood weirdos and megamillionaire sports players injecting their beliefs and their politics into whatever time I have free to relax and enjoy something.

      When entertainment becomes about politics, and I have millionaires trying to lecture to me what I should think and do... I just turn them off.

      Hopefully this costs the NFL hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue this season... maybe they will get the point.

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      CorpGiant 6 months ago from Dallas Texas

      Hello Tim and Sharon, I appreciate the comments you both presented. Tim, I agree with your last statement too, WE , are just inappropriate when WE see things that need to change in our nation. GOD Bless America. I totally agree!!

      Sharon, I do not agree with the forum and I agree with your statement. Granted, obviously we all know that positive change must occur for our nation.

      I honestly do not see this being resolved very quickly, maybe the stance that is being taken now, will be taken on other platforms, I really do not know what will happen next.

      You both have very valid points and I honestly do not have the answers and I wish I did have a solution to this entire mess.

      I appreciate the two of you reading my article and I appreciate your comments. Live long and prosper..

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      Tim Truzy 6 months ago from U.S.A.

      That's the beautiful irony about protests - there really isn't an appropriate forum. These guys are doing what people like Rosa Parks did, using what little power they have to draw attention to the issues. Was there an appropriate time for Rosa to decide not to move? Even further than that: Was there an appropriate time for George Washington and the Founding Fathers to protest outrageous taxes?

      We have a long history of choosing inappropriate protests. I'll stand and sing our anthem, but there is a reason why we have the right to "peaceful assembly." We are just inappropriate when we see things that need to change in our nation. God bless America.

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      Sharon Stajda 6 months ago from Shelby Township Michigan

      Stand... It is just a way we show respect to our military alive and those that died protecting our rights. I have no problem with the reasons they are taking a knee, only with the forum.