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Trump's War with Iran

Updated on May 14, 2019

Long ago, another Republican president, George Bush, listened to his intelligence communities that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), such as deadly Sarin gas and nuclear weapons. Bush also wanted to complete the job of his dad, another Bush, refused to do. That is, invade Iraq and take down Saddam, the countries president regime. Years later, the truth came out. All of the PR bluster and public rhetoric to the world to build a military coalition was a lie. There were no WMD in Iraq, especially nuclear WMD. Yet, the world bought the lie, created a coalition and invaded and took down Iraq's leader and entered in a quagmire that still exists today.

It seems like deja vu today. In April, 2019, the US Foreign Relations Committee got an intel report stating Iran posed no threat to American interests in the region. A month later, May 3rd, the same committee got a report indicating Iran posed a serious threat to US and allied interests, yet, it was devoid of any details as to what specific threats existed and where.

Based up on that, President Trump, or his advisers, got his support to send a new carrier task force and B-52's to the UAE region near Iran. The US Foreign Relations Committee, still has not been provided the details about the threat even though they have requested a closed hearing on the matter.

Iran's rhetoric has matched Trump's. Trump has always hated Iran, in general, got out of the nuclear agreement Obama entered into (which was questionable), seeks to somehow have a regime change hopefully from within due to the sanctions imposed. The sudden build up without substantial reason will be just a bluff of American power. Is it to distract the US public away from the daily Trump investigations? Show his supporters he is keeping a promise? Is the Iran threat real at this time? None of the usual committees briefed about a military build-up know what is going on in the Persian Gulf area.

Adding more fuel to fire were the recent oil tanker attacks in that region that mysteriously occurred. According reports, some suspect it was a special Iranian hit squad that was sending a message that Iran can damage the infrastructure quite easily, whether it is tankers in port or transit, or the oil pipeline from the port. On this, Iran easily do this to disrupt oil supply to the West. They don't need nukes for this, they have rockets well within range and enough to overload the Patriot missiles sent there, where some would get through. They have many fast attack boats armed with anti-ship missiles that can approach a ship and fire and escape since they are small. Even if the missiles failed to sink the ship, the impact would raise the political stakes. Iran has a few subs that can plant deadly Chinese rocket mines in the sea lanes open to the world. While the Iranian threat has always been there, why has Trump suddenly sent a large amount of American military assets there?

Few really know why. Now, Trump, under the advice of CIA and Secretary of State, has developed a plan to send 120,000 soldiers to the region if Iran does something. This would not be an invasion of Iran, so, where would they go and for what reason? To defend Arab port facilities of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain? Seems like a lot of waste of money.

If you recall, Trump was always about reducing the American troop levels and overall military presence in the Middle East. He thought the war in Iraq was predicated on a lie (and it was), thought it was time to bring the troops home from Afghanistan. Like many times before, he has made a U-turn when it comes to Iran.

One cannot help but think Trump is going along reluctantly with the advice being given him by those more hawkish than he is, namely, Bolton and others. If America enters into another conflict based upon a lie, it will be a Iraq all over again. A war with Iran is not winnable no matter how you look at it.

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    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      2 days ago from Placentia California

      Ken: What I learned from your link is that if we place tariffs on China importing our goods and services, they will come up with another way of providing those goods and services for themselves, even if it means stealing intellectual property and copy cat techniques.

      According to the Census Bureau last year our trade deficit with them was 419B. This year, up until March, the trade deficit is 80B.

      China is not like the U.S. they are a single party communist country. They can fill their goods and service gaps quite readily by government subsidies. They are even producing their own soy beans and putting our farmers out of work. Trump is even trying to subsides our farmers by taking our import tariffs money and transferring it to them.

      Here is the link to the Census Bureau. It is quite informative.

      https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700...

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      2 days ago from Placentia California

      Leslie: George Carlin speaks the truth. I watched an Erin Burnett special last night on the Trump Family Business. I thought Trump and his family were kind of dumb about things. They are not, they are smart and cunning when it comes to screwing over people and taking their money, even as President, the family is like a well run mafia syndicate. Just like Carlin said they are the owners and they are not allowing anybody to ever see their paper trail.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      3 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      It’s bad enough that we support the Saudis in their war on Yemen, and support Israel in their war on Palestine.

      Both Israel and Saudi Arabia want a war with Iran....it’s easy to see which way America goes.

      We have chosen our path long ago. Those of us who don’t like it must just suck it up and pay.

      So much so that Angela Merkel has now declared America a foe: something the EU must fight against.

      Good day for neocons. Sad day for the rest of us. Funny thing is, Trump doesn’t want war, and I would wager most of our Congress doesn’t either.

      Some things are beyond politics. This is ownership. They own us.

      https://youtu.be/rsL6mKxtOlQ

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      3 days ago

      Iran is conducting a proxy war and managed to smuggle in more missiles into Syria overland even though they were being monitored. The Saudis now want to conduct airstrikes against Iranian assets, so the US will approve of it, their side of a proxy war. We have been down this road before in history.

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      Randy Godwin 

      4 days ago from Southern Georgia

      Brad, Perry's profile says a lot about him. Apparently you are jealous of his writing success.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      4 days ago

      I think Trump was being strong handed by Bolton into a confrontation and now Trump is trying to brake. Bottom line is Iran cannot defeat the US, however, they certainly can cause problems for the world with low level missile attacks from their proxies. They can see that the US is hoping that they will take the bait so Trump has an excuse to attack, They are not stupid. So in the end, Iran will send rockets via proxies into Israel, or at Saudi Arabia and the US will be at odds what to do with all this military might they don't use. They could attack lebanon or yemen using cruise missiles, okay. But 120000 soldiers? really....

    • Randy Godwin profile image

      Randy Godwin 

      4 days ago from Southern Georgia

      Brad doesn't answer questions, you guys should know that by now. He simply opines for a half a page or so.

      Wonder why he mentioned WWII? My dad fought in the Battle of the Bulge and landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day.

      You notice he ignored the question of his service...

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      4 days ago from Placentia California

      Brad: Oh!, you are leaving without answering my two questions. What a great patriotic sacrifice you are making to pay homage to your narcissistic, lying, amoral, despicable, racist con artist president.

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      Dean Traylor 

      4 days ago from Southern California

      Ok Bye Brad....

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      Would anyone here discuss the topic and specifically my two detailed comments on the topic?

      If not, bye.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      Randy

      Why aren't you complaining about PerryA he has nothing for a profile.

      And you are in Southern Georgia right!

      And you fought in WWII!

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      Randy

      This is your comment to this topic.

      A personal attack,

      Why aren't you complaining about PerryA he has nothing for a profile.

      And you are in Southern Georgia right

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      PP

      Is this short enough, you didn't answer my original 2 comments.

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      4 days ago from Placentia California

      Brad: You wrote:

      B: PP

      Another distraction.

      Serving in Japan, wow the horror, your service and your patriotism are in the rear view mirror. Benedict Arnold was a patriotic at one time then he wasn't.

      Now are you going to answer my two comments? Of course, you don't have to answer them, and you don't have to put comments like this instead of answering them either.

      Maybe someone else on the left may have an answer?

      M: It is not a distraction. Your comments are so lengthy, you don't even realize what you wrote. I'm responding to this that you wrote:

      "B1: You dare call yourself a patriotic American when you disrespect the office of the president, and what did you do for the US compared to what Trump has done as president.

      The left was egging president Trump to throw down on Russia, but that is OK with you and the left. Now, you want the US to just give Iran whatever they want, like Carter and the hostages.

      He hasn't done anything yet, but you and the left want to use it and anything to disrespect the president."

      M: I served four years in the Cold War protecting people like you from a Soviet Invasion. What did you do that was so patriotic?

      B: What a sacrifice? Did you ever leave the states?"

      M: I will ask you again what is your call to patriotism other than supporting Trump and making massive comments on other people's articles?

      I don't even know if you were born during the cold war, but if you were, I saved your ass from a nuclear attack, even before there were ICBM's. I'm beginning to believe you are as sick a puppy as Trump is with your lengthy comments on other people's articles.

      You have never answered the question as to why you don't use forums or about your patriotism other than respecting Lying King Trump.

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      JAKE Earthshine 

      4 days ago from Milky-Way Galaxy ~ 4th Planet from the SUN

      lol, Imagine that? The problem "Comrade Brad MAGA" has with what Mike Russo did in Japan to serve his country bravely is that he was responsible for sending Allied Aircraft to INTERCEPT Russian Bombers Loaded UP with Nukes: I'm confident the mental case now perched in our oval office would ridicule Mike as well for his patriotic actions considering most republicans are now in a twisted, submissive state of being toward Vladimir Putin:

      That's what kind of a dangerously absurd up side down perverted world CONservaties now wallow in:

    • Randy Godwin profile image

      Randy Godwin 

      4 days ago from Southern Georgia

      I see Brad is already corrupting this hub with his long inane posts and still not answering the queries put to him about HIS patriotism and service to the country. No surprise at all...

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      Dean

      It isn't about him, it is about this topic.

      Don't address me unless it is about discussing my comment?

      Until then you are just greenhouse gas.

    • Dean Traylor profile image

      Dean Traylor 

      4 days ago from Southern California

      Brad, show some respect. He did more for this country than you ever will.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      PP

      Another distraction.

      Serving in Japan, wow the horror, your service and your patriotism are in the rear view mirror. Benedict Arnold was a patriotic at one time then he wasn't.

      Now are you going to answer my two comments? Of course, you don't have to answer them, and you don't have to put comments like this instead of answering them either.

      Maybe someone else on the left may have an answer?

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      4 days ago from Placentia California

      Brad:

      By the way, I served in Japan for a year on a remote radar site where we would scramble intercept aircraft against Soviet bombers carrying nuclear weapons and I also did it state side too for four years. So yes I am a patriot and served my country. What is your claim to patriotic duty, other than supporting Trump?

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      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      PP

      This is not an answer to my comment, this is a rant!

      For a change about sticking to one comment at a time, and answer the one that answered you comment.

      https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/319827...

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      Mike Russo 

      4 days ago from Placentia California

      Brad: How about Trump sends a task force to the mid-east without congress' approval? And now he is frustrated because he wants to attack Iran, and his advisors are telling him not to do it. At least other presidents got consensus from the UN, but Trump is the King.

      He is going to make an announcement today about immigration policy. Did he clear it with congress? Does he run anything through congress?

      Would you be happy if he attacked Iran without going through congress? He acts like a king by a blanket refusal to release any of the information the subpoenas have requested. If he has nothing to hide why doesn't he release the documents they requested? He is the Lying King and you and his supporters are in denial.

      You don't care about his lying and his despicable character. In your estimation, this president doesn't need any of those qualities as long as he is satisfying your needs. And don't tell me all politicians lie, not to the extent of this pathological liar.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      PP

      I have taken the time and the effort to analyze your link, and put my response in detail. First, there were no real facts to support you in it. Second, it was a totally anti Trump biased, baseless opinion piece.

      Third, what I have commented on is showing more what Mueller didn't but should have investigated.

      ------------------------------------

      From your link

      "Betrayal" and my responses.

      "What did Trump allegedly do? Trump’s campaign, in the words of the Mueller report, "expected it would benefit” from Russian help and invited interference (e.g., Trump calling for release of hacked Hillary Clinton emails;"

      B:

      The problem was one created by Hillary Clinton because she deleted these emails while under congressional subpoena that wanted to get access to her private email server to see if there was any classified information on it. Instead, she disregarded the subpoena and deleted 30,000 emails she claimed were personal. That wasn't for her to make that choice, it was the choice of congress that issued the subpoena.

      And then she bleached bit her email server disk drive scrubbing any and all of its data. Then not satisfied with that actually had the disk drives physically destroyed. This is obstruction of her investigation, and yet neither the congress nor the FBI took action.

      -----------------------------

      " campaign officials repeatedly seeking “dirt” on Clinton from Russians; and Trump hammering away at the disclosures from WikiLeaks, a Russian cutout, in the waning days of the campaign). "

      B:

      These emails were not created by Trump and they would have already been in the hands of congress to investigate for criminal activity. But, she destroyed them. There was no connection with Wikileaks, or the Russians with Trump. The implication is fabricated and is a distraction to the root of the issue, which is the content of these emails. None of this would have happened if Hillary had complied with the congressional subpoena.

      What was also not investigated by Mueller was the Russian Dossier that was created for Hillary Clinton as an opposition paper against Trump. Steele actually got his information from Russia, and Russians. This report on its face, declared that the information contained in it may not be true of reliable, and it hadn't been verified. Yet, it would be used by the FBI to get a FISA warrant against Carter Page and three extensions that gave the FBI a year to spy on the Trump organization.

      Neither the FBI nor any other US intel agency actually verified the report, but used it for their 17 intel agency consensus that it was worth investigating Trump.

      The end result was that Carter Page was never charged with any crime after a year of the warrant. And it didn't implicate Trump or any of the Trump organization. Why didn't Mueller investigate Hillary, and Comey on why nothing was found but yet they had a year of investigating Trump. This investigation went public and it also could have influenced the election against Trump.

      While the whole supposition of Trump asking Wikileaks or Russia to help was a tongue in cheek gesture, the act of Hillary paying millions to get her opposition paper which had false information against Trump, it was an intentional overt act, that in the least should have been investigated by Mueller.

      ---------------------------------------------------

      Trump continued falsely to deny business dealings with Russia during the campaign (thereby giving the Kremlin leverage over him).

      B:

      This is a biased opinion with no basis in fact. There is no evidence that the Kremlin had any contact with Trump much less leverage. No leverage has been found even to this day.

      Yet, there were many Bill and Hillary contacts and millions of dollars exchanged from the Russians into Bill's account and that of the Clinton Foundation. Yet, Mueller didn't investigate this very visible Russian connection?

      ----------------------------------------------------

      After the election, Trump has acted in ways that served only to encourage Russia to engage in more interference (e.g., siding with Russian President Vladimir Putin over our intelligence community at Helsinki; calling Putin after the Mueller report’s release to tell him it was all a hoax; refusing to take election security seriously).

      B:

      Our intelligence agencies couldn't be trusted as they called the Russian Dossier credible and all 17 agencies used the same Dossier that wasn't verified by any of them.

      --------------------------------------------------

      Crime? There may not be evidence of a criminal conspiracy with Russians, but Trump unfairly sought and obtained foreign assistance in the election (i.e., he cheated), and then left the United States open to further attacks on our democracy. In doing so, he violated his oath of office."

      B:

      I have already addressed this above, and this paragraph is just a biased rant by someone who doesn't like Trump.

      Mueller indicted 13 Russians, and they pleaded not guilty. So this indictment is the only connection to any possible influence of the election. Until, that indictment is taken to trial, and a verdict of guilty is decided in a court of law, it is just Mueller's unproven opinion. Nothing more, and not the basis for the paragraph on Crime.

      The burden of any Russian Influence in the 2016 election is on president Obama who had inputs from his intel agencies about it. Yet, he didn't do anything except sending 49 Russians out of the US. When Trump mentioned that he was afraid that the election was rigged, president Obama ridiculed him and said worry about your campaign, the election can't be rigged.

      Why did Mueller investigate president Obama and his people as to what they knew and what they did or didn't do to protect the election.

      -----------------------------------------------

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      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      PP

      You think that an Opinion Piece that is biased against Trump is an answer to my questions, and comment?

      Where is your answer?

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      "B1: It isn't just the economy, it is about a president that is not bound by the ridiculous gridlock mortal enemy of two parties that work against each other since the day they became parties.

      M: He acts like a king without any regard for the law, until he is told by his advisors that he can't do that because it is unconstitutional.

      B:The president has advise and he doesn't have to take it. Simple is that, and there really isn't any limit on the president from SCOTUS. So your accusation of unconstitutional is without merit, and without any solid legal footing."

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      PerryA

      PerryA

      When you bet against America in favor of Iran, what does that say about your nationalism, and patriotism?

      Especially when you think the US would lose to Iran?

      Add that to your comment about Trump not beating China, when it should be the US, not just Trump.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      4 days ago

      PerryA

      When you bet against America in favor of Iran, what does that say about your nationalism, and patriotism?

      Especially when you think the US would lose to Iran?

      Add that to your comment about Trump not beating China, when it should be the US, not just Trump.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      5 days ago

      It seems I was correct. the man Trump appointed, Bolton, and others, are pushing the Iran situation a little more hawkish than Trump wants. Trump wants to meet the Iranian leaders and negotiate, they refuse. Bolton seems to want to lure Iran into acting first so the US can act. However, Iran is wily. They are using their proxies in Yemen and Lebanon\Syria to make isolated attacks so if there is any US response, it won't be upon Iran proper.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      5 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "What are they telling them to do?"

      Sit down and be Americas little lap dog.

      Theyre also telling the EU not to do business with them.

      And why?Iran was complying with the deal all these countries made, including us.

      Why did trump pull us out of the deal?

      Cause hes Bibis little lap dog, thats why.

      The neocons are back in power.

      And to me, that means ignorance reigns.

      And bigotry.

      And war.

      And macho dinosaur men.

      We need enlightenment, not cruelty.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      5 days ago

      As time moves on, another odd development has happened where US Embassy and other Americans have told to leave Iraq and other middle east countries, yet, a British commander in Iraq indicated he has not heard anything nor has any reason danger is lurking. None of the US allies in the area have followed the warning issued to US personnel. So, either Trump or Bolton is not telling our allies about the dangers or they are just more lies to bluster. I think Bolton is driving this and Trump is going along because it is a political distraction for many in the news cycle. It is almost as if Trump is egging Iran to attack a US interest. Sending 120,000 troops only provides terrorists and Iran more American targets. If we are not invading Iran, WTF? Just for show?

      Iran has more or less indicated that a special force did attack the tankers and not reported was their drone attack on Saudi oil piplines from Yemen proxies that damaged some infrastructure. Now, they threaten the Golan Heights with more precise rockets from Lebanon.

      One can foresee a US-Israeli response should the Golan or Israel come under fire. In this case, absolutely, destroy the Iranians or proxies but this is far different than attacking Iran! If iran attacks more oil tankers as they did in 1990, the US should respond. The question is how. Strike at iran? this would escalate it all over the region. There is the conflict coming there and probably in South China Sea.

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      Mike Russo 

      5 days ago from Placentia California

      B1: It isn't just the economy, it is about a president that is not bound by the ridiculous gridlock mortal enemy of two parties that work against each other since the day they became parties.

      M: He acts like a king without any regard for the law, until he is told by his advisors that he can't do that because it is unconstitutional.

      B:The president has advise and he doesn't have to take it. Simple is that, and there really isn't any limit on the president from SCOTUS. So your accusation of unconstitutional is without merit, and without any solid legal footing.

      M1:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/15...

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

      What are they telling them to do?

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      Leslie McCowen 

      5 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Why is USA telling Iran what to do?

      Do they think they are American women or something?

      If u don’t know start here: Neocons

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      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

      PP

      Can you explain these kinds of comments from the left after your statement about my comments.

      2 minutes ago from Southern California

      Weak comeback...everybody can see your avatar. Some may realize you used to write a lot about turtles. In other words, most people know that the hubber obsessed with a turtle icon is YOU. Better luck next time, if you have used up all your cognitive skills for one day coming up with that zinger.

      Now, do you have anything to say about the discussion on the environment that's not predictably misinformed?

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      14 minutes ago from now on

      Hey, adult hubbers, have you ever seen a hubber more obsessed with a turtle icon?

      Oh yeah, ...two peas in a pod!

      74 minutes ago from Southern California

      Not surprised you have a turtle for an avator because you sure love dodging the truth when it's right there in your face,.

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      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

      PerryA

      Your article

      "Iran's rhetoric has matched Trump's. Trump has always hated Iran,"

      Can you substantiate that accusation?

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40006734

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      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

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      Leslie McCowen 

      5 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      "Intelligence and military officials in Europe as well as in the United States said that over the past year, most aggressive moves have originated not in Tehran, but in Washington."

      https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/05/15/under...

      New law: those who push for war must send their kids first.

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      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

      Mike

      continuing

      B1: It isn't just the economy, it is about a president that is not bound by the ridiculous gridlock mortal enemy of two parties that work against each other since the day they became parties.

      M: He acts like a king without any regard for the law, until he is told by his advisors that he can't do that because it is unconstitutional.

      B:

      The president has advise and he doesn't have to take it. Simple is that, and there really isn't any limit on the president from SCOTUS. So your accusation of unconstitutional is without merit, and without any solid legal footing.

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      President Trump has put the people and the US over the party. The left wants open borders, and doesn't remember how dismal was America in letting 19 budget terrorist successfully attack and kill over 3,000 people on American Soil, without a single shot in defense being fired.

      M1: Excuse me. They flew two airliners into the trade center...big difference from marching across a border from Central America with families.

      B:

      You don't seem to understand, our country let us down. And wanting to put up a border wall helps secure our national defense. We can spend a 100 Billion in total of direct and indirect cost for not having a border wall, but the left shutdown the government so they wouldn't even give him $5 Billion for the wall. The Drug Cartel owns the open borders and cheap fences, and they are in the drug business, human trafficking, and gun running to name a few. Also, we have a significant gang problem in the US and many of the gang members come illegally across the border.

      Central Americans demanded to come into the country, and the response of the left was..? They were flying flags of their own country not the US. They wanted us like a tape worm wants us.

      -----------------------------------------

      B: Did you disrespect Bill Clinton when he was president because he and Hillary ran away from the Vietnam War. Or when Bill used the Oval Office as a motel. How about when OBL tried to blowup the WTC building and he got away without Clinton trying to catch him.

      M: Actually Clinton bombed the hell out OBL with cruise missiles, but he was under investigation at the time and they said that bombing was to change the focus of the investigation.

      B:

      And how did that stop OBL from planning 911 to finish the job of taking down WTC from his 1993 attempt.

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      M: Now you are playing the "What about game." I can play it too. What about Trump grabbing lady parts, married and having an affair with a porn star and playboy model. How about being sued for Trump University, and being sued for not renting to black tenants?

      B:

      What I mentioned were what happened when people were in office, not what they did as a private citizen. And even then you are wrong.

      Your accusation about grabbing, came from a private 2005 Conversation with Billy Bush then released by NBC to the public during the campaign. That should have been construed as influencing the election. And there was no actual grabbing except by the left to this absurd accusation.

      Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about Monica, and he was married and president using the Oval Office. As for Trump, that is still an accusation that has not been adjudicated. Monica had the DNA evidence of Bill Clinton.

      The Trump University is a civil matter, and again he was not in office.

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      B1: Tell me what your definition is for being a patriot.

      Is it putting illegal aliens above and beyond Americans, legal immigrants and America. Giving them sanctuary, and protecting them from deportation, including Convicted Illegal Alien Felons.

      Ignoring the US homeless while giving benefits to illegal aliens. Ignoring the drug problem in America, the gang problem in America, and much of it can be attributed to failing to build the border wall.

      How is that patriotism?

      M1: Do you realize what you just did? You asked me a question and then you answered it and then asked me to defend your answer.

      B1:

      I asked you to tell me if that was your definition of patriotism? I didn't ask you to defend anything.

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      I told you before that using an article as a forum is not the proper place to do this. That's why we have forums because they have threads that can be followed, but for some reason, you will not use forums.

      B1:

      I don't use forums, so what.

      I you make a statement that is wild, vague, ambiguous, biased and basically baseless, I will comment on it. It is up to you to respond to it or not.

      --------------------------------------------------------------

      I'm not playing your game. This is my last reply to you on this article. You don't just ask questions. You also answer the question and then ask the person to defend your answer. That is like putting words in their mouth. And then when people don't answer, you hound them to answer, until they just ignore you."

      B1:

      I don't care whether you answer or you don't answer, that is your case. But whining about it is not an answer it is an attack on me, because you couldn't answer my questions, or comments.

      What is your point for being here today on this article?

      Mine is to comment on things that aren't true, and find out why someone thinks they are true. It is called a discussion.

      Final comment to you. If I ask you to explain what is going on with your buds on the article about Climate Change written by James Watkins, can you tell me why they can't stay on topic, and make personal attacks as their comments.

      BTW, I was impressed that you attempted to carry on the discussion using references so that their was no mistake as to what was being discussed.

      Have a nice day.

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      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

      Mike

      Thanks for your reply.

      "Brad:

      B1: That is not what your words said in your last comment. You made Iran look like the Shia power along with Iraq that would challenge and beat anything from the US. remember what you said.

      M1: Whether you and Trump and company realize it or not, there is a four way civil war going on in the Middle East. It is between the Shia, Sunni, Kurds, and Israel.

      The majority of Iran, Iraq, and Syria are Shia. Saudi Arabia are Sunni. The Houtis are Kurds who live in Yemen. The Shia and Sunni hate each other. Saudi Arabia bombs the hell out of the Kurds who live in Yemen using our military equipment. Israel and Saudi Arabia use our forces to protect themselves from the Shia in Iran and Iraq. All of these talks about denuclearizing Iran is to protect Israel from an Iranian attack. You miss-interpreted what I said.

      B2: That is why GW Bush should have left Saddam Hussein alone. He is the one that broke the conflict loose.

      What I got out of your point was that Trump should leave Iran alone?

      ------------------------------------------

      B1: Those were not lies, they were the left's attack on the president. These 10,000 as you and the left call them lies, didn't affect his performance did it.

      If anyone was lying it was the left with their resistance to the president, and along with their pseudo left media created these labels of lies.

      M1: Trump's performance isn't worth a crap. What has he done? Deregulated the rules to prevent banks and investment companies to commingle their assets. That's what got into the financial meltdown before. He give huge tax cuts to the super rich and then expect to have trickle down economics work. It did't work for Reagan and it is not going to work for Trump, simple because the money doesn't trickle down. It goes sideways to tax shelters and Swiss bank accounts.

      So you deny that Trump has not lied or made miss-leading statements 10,00 times and you want to blame it on the left and the media for labels of lies?

      B2:

      No Crap is what he inherited, and 2008 was actually started with Clinton and the democrats wanting to make buying a home easy, even when they didn't qualify and could afford it. Yes, the banks and investment companies took advantage, but they couldn't have done it without Freddie, Fannie, and the Federal Reserve. If the Federal Reserve would have raised the interest rates, we might have caught the problem in its infancy.

      There wasn't just one thing, it was a set of things that played together to make it happen. Everyone in politics was to blame, but not Trump because he wasn't in politics then.

      The GW Bush and Obama with their respective congresses bailed out the people that caused the failure, but they didn't do anything for the victims. They gave bailout money that the businesses then used to give themselves a 7 figure bonus as key employees. What was key is that without them their businesses wouldn't have failed.

      You don't seem to understand that the tax cuts were something that was useful to the middle class, and the super rich didn't need that kind of tax cut, as they already had hundreds of them in the Internal Revenue Code. This code was created and built by both parties, and the rich of both parties enjoy it.

      If you really want to tax the super rich, change the iRC or replace income tax with a National Sales Tax. Not a flat tax either because it still involves income.

      --------------------------------

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/29/tr...

      B1: You dare call yourself a patriotic American when you disrespect the office of the president, and what did you do for the US compared to what Trump has done as president.

      The left was egging president Trump to throw down on Russia, but that is OK with you and the left. Now, you want the US to just give Iran whatever they want, like Carter and the hostages.

      He hasn't done anything yet, but you and the left want to use it and anything to disrespect the president.

      M: I served four years in the Cold War protecting people like you from a Soviet Invasion. What did you do that was so patriotic?

      B:

      What a sacrifice? Did you ever leave the states?

      -----------------------------------------------

      I don't respect the office of President. I disrespect the person in the office because he has brought the standard of that office to a new low.

      B:

      That is not your decision to make is it. The president and the office are one. You didn't like it when people criticized Obama but it is OK for you to do the same.

      ---------------------------------------

      He has manipulated the GOP congress and lawmakers to place himself above the law and does not follow the norms of the constitution.

      B:

      He didn't manipulate any congress as there were many RINOS and the Democrats fought everything he did, said or thought about. What law are you talking about. Without a reference, a context your accusation is just that. What are the norms of the constitution? And do you think that president Obama followed those norms?

      -------------------------------------------

      He does not respect me and others like me because we are liberal democrats. He wants to keep the country divided so that he can manipulate it for his own good.

      B:

      None of what you say is true. But, I certainly don't respect what the Obama era liberal stands for, they put party before country, and they put illegals, and terrorists above Americans.

      The country was divided by president Obama. He didn't do anything about Black Lives Matter and their riots. He didn't do any abortion the life and pro life protests and riots. He brought unvetted immigrants directly into the country.

      And that is one of the reasons that Omar is now pushing the Muslim line in congress today.

      President Trump inherited these problems of division in the US, he didn't create them.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      5 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Fact:

      Senator Tom Cotton tells Firing Line if it comes to war with Iran, he is confident the United States would win, and would win swiftly. “Two strikes, the first strike and the last strike,” says the Senator.

      —As in nukes!

      We know Bibi wants to bomb Iran....for decades.

      “The Israel lobby paid off Republican Senators in Congress to oppose the deal. On Wednesday, it was revealed that Senator Tom Cotton, a Republican from Arkansas received nearly $1 million from the Emergency Committee for Israel, a U.S. based rightwing political advocacy organization.

      The group paid $960,250 to Cotton’s campaign, soon after which he lead the writing of an open-letter, signed by 47 Republicans, stating that a GOP White House would not adhere to any accords with Iran.”

      Russia:

      GOP took 7.35 million from Russian oligarchs....now have removed sanctions on Deripaska....

      Granted, Russia is allied with Iran. But can’t say Russians haven’t paid off gop.

      Saudi Arabia:

      Self evident. Trump ignored Kashoggis murder, and the prince is god friends with Kushner.

      Everyone knows Saudis want war with Iran.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security...

      They paid off Trumps debts. Just like Russia did.

      https://qz.com/1425852/a-saudi-prince-helped-save-...

      So guess what? All facts.

      Trump first, America last.

    • peoplepower73 profile image

      Mike Russo 

      5 days ago from Placentia California

      Brad:

      B1: That is not what your words said in your last comment. You made Iran look like the Shia power along with Iraq that would challenge and beat anything from the US. remember what you said.

      M1: Whether you and Trump and company realize it or not, there is a four way civil war going on in the Middle East. It is between the Shia, Sunni, Kurds, and Israel.

      The majority of Iran, Iraq, and Syria are Shia. Saudi Arabia are Sunni. The Houtis are Kurds who live in Yemen. The Shia and Sunni hate each other. Saudi Arabia bombs the hell out of the Kurds who live in Yemen using our military equipment. Israel and Saudi Arabia use our forces to protect themselves from the Shia in Iran and Iraq. All of these talks about denuclearizing Iran is to protect Israel from an Iranian attack. You miss-interpreted what I said.

      B1: Those were not lies, they were the left's attack on the president. These 10,000 as you and the left call them lies, didn't affect his performance did it.

      If anyone was lying it was the left with their resistance to the president, and along with their pseudo left media created these labels of lies.

      M1: Trump's performance isn't worth a crap. What has he done? Deregulated the rules to prevent banks and investment companies to commingle their assets. That's what got into the financial meltdown before. He give huge tax cuts to the super rich and then expect to have trickle down economics work. It did't work for Reagan and it is not going to work for Trump, simple because the money doesn't trickle down. It goes sideways to tax shelters and Swiss bank accounts.

      So you deny that Trump has not lied or made miss-leading statements 10,00 times and you want to blame it on the left and the media for labels of lies?

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/29/tr...

      B1: You dare call yourself a patriotic American when you disrespect the office of the president, and what did you do for the US compared to what Trump has done as president.

      The left was egging president Trump to throw down on Russia, but that is OK with you and the left. Now, you want the US to just give Iran whatever they want, like Carter and the hostages.

      He hasn't done anything yet, but you and the left want to use it and anything to disrespect the president.

      M: I served four years in the Cold War protecting people like you from a Soviet Invasion. What did you do that was so patriotic?

      I don't respect the office of President. I disrespect the person in the office because he has brought the standard of that office to a new low. He has manipulated the GOP congress and lawmakers to place himself above the law and does not follow the norms of the constitution. He does not respect me and others like me because we are liberal democrats. He wants to keep the country divided so that he can manipulate it for his own good.

      B1: It isn't just the economy, it is about a president that is not bound by the ridiculous gridlock mortal enemy of two parties that work against each other since the day they became parties.

      M: He acts like a king without any regard for the law, until he is told by his advisors that he can't do that because it is unconstitutional.

      President Trump has put the people and the US over the party. The left wants open borders, and doesn't remember how dismal was America in letting 19 budget terrorist successfully attack and kill over 3,000 people on American Soil, without a single shot in defense being fired.

      M1: Excuse me. They flew two airliners into the trade center...big difference from marching across a border from Central America with families.

      B: Did you disrespect Bill Clinton when he was president because he and Hillary ran away from the Vietnam War. Or when Bill used the Oval Office as a motel. How about when OBL tried to blowup the WTC building and he got away without Clinton trying to catch him.

      M: Actually Clinton bombed the hell out OBL with cruise missiles, but he was under investigation at the time and they said that bombing was to change the focus of the investigation.

      M: Now you are playing the "What about game." I can play it too. What about Trump grabbing lady parts, married and having an affair with a porn star and playboy model. How about being sued for Trump University, and being sued for not renting to black tenants?

      B1: Tell me what your definition is for being a patriot.

      Is it putting illegal aliens above and beyond Americans, legal immigrants and America. Giving them sanctuary, and protecting them from deportation, including Convicted Illegal Alien Felons.

      Ignoring the US homeless while giving benefits to illegal aliens. Ignoring the drug problem in America, the gang problem in America, and much of it can be attributed to failing to build the border wall.

      How is that patriotism?

      M1: Do you realize what you just did? You asked me a question and then you answered it and then asked me to defend your answer.

      I told you before that using an article as a forum is not the proper place to do this. That's why we have forums because they have threads that can be followed, but for some reason, you will not use forums.

      I'm not playing your game. This is my last reply to you on this article. You don't just ask questions. You also answer the question and then ask the person to defend your answer. That is like putting words in their mouth. And then when people don't answer, you hound them to answer, until they just ignore you.

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      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

      Mike

      Mike

      B: You can't be serious about it being Obama's economy when Trump has done many things different from that of Obama?

      M: I'm deadly serious

      B1:

      What is the basis of you seriousness?

      Obama didn't do any of the things that Trump did to stimulate the economy, and the left ridiculed everything he did.

      ----------------------------------------

      B: Which country are you rooting for?

      The US, Iran, Iraq or China?

      M: U.S.A.

      B1:

      That is not what your words said in your last comment. You made Iran look like the Shia power along with Iraq that would challenge and beat anything from the US. remember what you said.

      ---------------------------------------

      B: I would like to know where you stand as an American today?

      M: I don't like Trump because he is a pathological liar who has lied or miss-represented information over 10,000 times. That is a fact not my opinion. As a president, he is amoral and narcissistic and is not capable of discerning details. He has surrounded himself with yes men who practice group think which is very dangerous for the country because they can all agree to have Trump push the launch button.

      B1:

      Those were not lies, they were the left's attack on the president. These 10,000 as you and the left call them lies, didn't affect his performance did it.

      If anyone was lying it was the left with their resistance to the president, and along with their pseudo left media created these labels of lies.

      --------------------------------------------------

      I stand as a patriotic American who has served his country well, not a bone-spur, draft-dodging president who is willing to send troops into harms way just based on his twisted ego.

      B1:

      You dare call yourself a patriotic American when you disrespect the office of the president, and what did you do for the US compared to what Trump has done as president.

      The left was egging president Trump to throw down on Russia, but that is OK with you and the left. Now, you want the US to just give Iran whatever they want, like Carter and the hostages.

      He hasn't done anything yet, but you and the left want to use it and anything to disrespect the president.

      --------------------------------------------------

      Oh I know, I should overlook all of that, because it is the economy stupid! But you know economies come and go. But just like a dictator, he has already suggested extending his term.

      B1:

      It isn't just the economy, it is about a president that is not bound by the ridiculous gridlock mortal enemy of two parties that work against each other since the day they became parties.

      President Trump has put the people and the US over the party. The left wants open borders, and doesn't remember how dismal was America in letting 19 budget terrorist successfully attack and kill over 3,000 people on American Soil, without a single shot in defense being fired.

      Did you disrespect Bill Clinton when he was president because he and Hillary ran away from the Vietnam War. Or when Bill used the Oval Office as a motel. How about when OBL tried to blowup the WTC building and he got away without Clinton trying to catch him.

      And tell me again, what service did Barack Obama belong to, oh yes, community service. It is sad that you have to go back to the Vietnam War to get anything you don't like about Trump, while ignoring your idols who did the same thing or worse.

      From what I understand the Vietnam War was a politicians war, and that politician was LBJ. He took JFK's 19,000 advisors, and turned it into a real war with over 550,000 troops, And then he totally lost that war. But, I suppose you like him better than Trump?

      ---------------------------------------------------

      By the way, MAGA Twenty Twenty means make America Great Again in 2020. If it was already great in 2019, why do we need to do it again in 2020?

      B1:

      Really, now I understand your problem if you really believe that statement. We never stopped going to war in the last century, and we continued it into this century. And we lost all those wars because of the politicians, not because of the military.

      2008 the economy crashed after two economic bubbles were allowed to grow and then burst. This is what you call a great America.

      Do you really think that America was great on 911, and when tearing down Libya, and having the US Ambassador get killed by terrorist in Benghazi great.

      What actually is your definition of great? President Obama went all around the world apologizing for America, and he continued it when he left office.

      I would have to write a very long hub to show you all that was not great.

      ---------------------------------------

      Tell me what your definition is for being a patriot.

      Is it putting illegal aliens above and beyond Americans, legal immigrants and America. Giving them sanctuary, and protecting them from deportation, including Convicted Illegal Alien Felons.

      Ignoring the US homeless while giving benefits to illegal aliens. Ignoring the drug problem in America, the gang problem in America, and much of it can be attributed to failing to build the border wall.

      How is that patriotism?

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      Mike Russo 

      5 days ago from Placentia California

      Brad:

      Mike

      B: You can't be serious about it being Obama's economy when Trump has done many things different from that of Obama?

      M: I'm deadly serious

      B: Which country are you rooting for?

      .

      The US, Iran, Iraq or China?

      M: U.S.A.

      B: I would like to know where you stand as an American today?

      M: I don't like Trump because he is a pathological liar who has lied or miss-represented information over 10,000 times. That is a fact not my opinion. As a president, he is amoral and narcissistic and is not capable of discerning details. He has surrounded himself with yes men who practice group think which is very dangerous for the country because they can all agree to have Trump push the launch button.

      I stand as a patriotic American who has served his country well, not a bone-spur, draft-dodging president who is willing to send troops into harms way just based on his twisted ego. Oh I know, I should overlook all of that, because it is the economy stupid! But you know economies come and go. But just like a dictator, he has already suggested extending his term.

      By the way, MAGA Twenty Twenty means make America Great Again in 2020. If it was already great in 2019, why do we need to do it again in 2020?

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      NOYFOB 

      5 days ago

      Leslie

      Seriously, not a single fact.

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      Leslie McCowen 

      6 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      “I think because of Russia, the Saudi's and Israel paid them all off.

      And we are all too exhausted to stop it - constant disruption works - every day it's been sometime unbelievably bad.

      He isn't a president - he is a criminal.“

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      Leslie McCowen 

      6 days ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Senator Tom Cotton tells Firing Line if it comes to war with Iran, he is confident the United States would win, and would win swiftly. “Two strikes, the first strike and the last strike,” says the Senator.

      ******

      He wants to nuke Iran. They all do......could we say “wipe them off the face of the earth”? I think we can.

      Don’t forget Netanyahu wants this. And Adelson gave Trump a ton of money....and he puts Israel above America.

      And Cotton is another grub

      “The Israel lobby paid off Republican Senators in Congress to oppose the Iran deal. On Wednesday, it was revealed that Senator Tom Cotton, a Republican from Arkansas received nearly $1 million from the Emergency Committee for Israel, a U.S. based rightwing political advocacy organization.

      The group paid $960,250 to Cotton’s campaign, soon after which he lead the writing of an open-letter, signed by 47 Republicans, stating that a GOP White House would not adhere to any accords with Iran.”

      I don’t know what McCains deal was, “bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran”

      But he and Graham are long time friends of Bibi, too.

      Call me an anti semite for stating the truth....this is how gvt operates when Citizens United and money are allowed to rule.

      They are neocons from the Bush era. And they never went anywhere. Just like the anti abortionists and white power people, who now are emboldened to act because of Trump.

      Trump admires Putin and Jong Un.....and he called the pres of Hungary....(you call ME an anti semite?) a great man.

      And just btw.....only Congress can declare war,

      And as ever, as Obama suggested IN HIS TERM, it’s time for Congress to end the AUMF.

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      NOYFOB 

      6 days ago

      PerryA

      From your article

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      Trump's War with Iran

      Updated on May 14, 2019

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      Long ago, another Republican president, George Bush, listened to his intelligence communities that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), such as deadly Sarin gas and nuclear weapons. Bush also wanted to complete the job of his dad, another Bush, refused to do. That is, invade Iraq and take down Saddam, the countries president regime. Years later, the truth came out. All of the PR bluster and public rhetoric to the world to build a military coalition was a lie. There were no WMD in Iraq, especially nuclear WMD. Yet, the world bought the lie, created a coalition and invaded and took down Iraq's leader and entered in a quagmire that still exists today."

      B:

      Remember those US intel agencies that supplied Bush with the WMD, are also the same agencies that you said were right about the Russia Trump influence our election, and they were wrong again.

      Are you ready to believe that the US intel agencies are more independent from the politicians that with them.

      I agree with what you said about GW Bush and we shouldn't have invaded either Afghanistan or Iraq. For the reasons given, we would have a better cause to have invaded Pakistan because they held more terrorists including OBL. They also worked against us, while receiving aid from the US.

      Iran is a different story. They invaded the US Embassy in Iran and took hostages, and held them until Carter was out of office. How proud as an American were you to have watch the most powerful country then in the world unable to do anything to free our hostages.

      I guess you were OK with that because now you think the Iran has the high road, and the US should do nothing.

      Which country has your loyalty?

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      NOYFOB 

      6 days ago

      PerryA

      B:

      Maybe when you get elected and become president your opinion from this article will be a plan. Until then, why don't you let the president do his job. If you don't like what he is doing then, try to vote him out of office.

      In your article

      "Adding more fuel to fire were the recent oil tanker attacks in that region that mysteriously occurred. According reports, some suspect it was a special Iranian hit squad that was sending a message that Iran can damage the infrastructure quite easily, whether it is tankers in port or transit, or the oil pipeline from the port."

      B:

      You are OK with Iran doing this, if it is true?

      ----------------------------

      On this, Iran easily do this to disrupt oil supply to the West. They don't need nukes for this, they have rockets well within range and enough to overload the Patriot missiles sent there, where some would get through. They have many fast attack boats armed with anti-ship missiles that can approach a ship and fire and escape since they are small. Even if the missiles failed to sink the ship, the impact would raise the political stakes. Iran has a few subs that can plant deadly Chinese rocket mines in the sea lanes open to the world."

      B:

      If Iran did this, then would you be OK with it. If true then what should America do about it?

      ----------------------------

      While the Iranian threat has always been there, why has Trump suddenly sent a large amount of American military assets there?"

      B:

      I think you just described why?

      ---------------------------

      Mike

      You can't be serious about it being Obama's economy when Trump has done many things different from that of Obama?

      Which country are you rooting for?

      The US, Iran, Iraq or China?

      I would like to know where you stand as an American today?

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      Mike Russo 

      6 days ago from Placentia California

      Now they are talking about Iraq attacking on troops there. They probably don't know that the major population in Iraq is Shia, just like in Iran and they will do anything to protect the Shia.

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      Mike Russo 

      6 days ago from Placentia California

      Perrya: When are these people going to learn? You can't change a theocracy to a democracy overnight by invading their country. Most of Iran is Shia and they have their supreme leaders. If there is a war, it's going to be Trump's war and he will own it, even though he will try to blame others for it.

      He is taking credit for an economy that was fixed by Obama and has been trending upward ever since. But now with his tariffs, he is going to screw everything up on his own. He thinks he can stop Chinese imports and have us start producing replacement products overnight.

      His tariffs punish our importers to stop them from importing Chinese products. He thinks he can take the money that they pay and give it to soy bean farmers that he has put out of work and everything will be peachy keen.

      This military task force and tariffs are all his doing. This is the first time he is really doing something on his own and I bet you he is going to mess it up royally. How does he make massive military movements and a trade war without congress' approval?

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      Ashutosh Joshi 

      6 days ago from New Delhi, India

      This is getting out of hand, I think USG is determined to wage war on Iran one way or the other. The repeated sanctions while crippling the economy have really failed to crush Iran or its ambitions. Hence the alt route seems usual wmd style false flag operation. Saudi's have joined the brawl, the timing, nature and location of their claims is all pointing in one direction.

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      JAKE Earthshine 

      6 days ago from Milky-Way Galaxy ~ 4th Planet from the SUN

      After that NYT Mega-Atomic Bombshell Report which revealed Donald's SHOCKING Business Ineptitude which included over 1 BILLION in Loses for at least a period of 9 to 10 years and for all we know even longer, his impending legal catastrophe and of course his DISASTROUS Trade War Tariffs which are DROWNING Americans in Higher Taxes, he desperately needs a major distraction and a conflict with Iran although it will never relieve him of his inevitable political and legal DOOM, just might make him feel as if all his MEGA-Problems have disappeared:

      Donald needs a war right now and I wouldn't be surprised if he starts one for ALL the WRONG reasons:

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      Howard Schneider 

      6 days ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      You are spot on with this article, Perrya. This Iran situation is tracking just like Iraq. The most key similarity is John Bolton. This chicken hawk is driving this and he will stop at nothing to get another war. His vision of this region has never been any broader than this and we will pay for his madness and Trump's ignorance.

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