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Updated on May 7, 2017
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Harlotte Spins Us Breakfast

Good Morning, Breakfastpoppers. Today is Sunday, May 7, 2017. Our creative friend, Spider Harlotte, has produced a delightful breakfast for us this morning. She is disgusted by the insane reaction Democrats and the media are having in response to the Republican plan to replace the floundering Obamacare. Please join Harlotte and me for fresh home baked croissants and homemade jams. We'll talk about the new plan while we enjoy our croissants and lattes. We hope to see you soon. The door is open, awaiting your arrival.

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Stop the Whining

Thank you all for joining Pop and me this morning. If you listen to the ranting and raving of the Democrats, you would be certain that the Republicans are trying to kill off all of us. Nothing could be farther from the truth, but the truth doesn't count for very much these days. The proposed bill no longer requires people to buy insurance through the exchanges if they want to use federal tax credits to purchase coverage. As of right now, there are many people who can't buy insurance because the exchanges have collapsed, and no coverage is available. The new bill also eliminates the tax penalty for refusing to have coverage. That is an excellent change, because so many people, particularly young people, preferred the penalty to the exorbitant cost of Obamacare. The insured should make every effort to maintain coverage because the new bill forbids insurance companies from terminating their insurance or charging more for pre-existing conditions, provided their coverage is continuous. In other words, if insurance lapses for more than 63 days, insurance companies can charge a 30 percent penalty above the yearly premium for one year. This provision is reasonable. Those seeking coverage have to take charge of their health and their health coverage.

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About Those Tax Credits

The new bill tosses out the income-based tax credits and subsidies and replaces them with tax credits based upon age. The credits would range from $2,000 a year for young people to $4,000 a year for those older than 60. The new bill eliminates all the taxes that were in the ACA. The hope is that premiums will come down. Right now Obamacare premiums are out of sight. It's no wonder that so many Americans go through life without coverage. If you can't afford it, but you don't qualify for Medicaid, you are out of luck. Speaking of Medicaid, the ACA expanded the coverage, a cost so devastating that states could not handle the burden. The proposed plan eases that expansion beginning in 2019. It reduces federal reimbursements to states for people who leave the program. States would be granted a specific amount of money for Medicaid participants or it would allow them to receive a pre-determined dollar amount. The goal is to significantly reduce the total cost of Medicaid.

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About Those Waivers

One of the many problems with Obamacare was the requirement that forced people to have coverage for health situations they would never face. In other words, older people were paying for maternity and others were paying for mental health care. The coverage caused their premiums to rise and become unaffordable. The new plan gives states the ability to apply for waivers that would allow them to opt out of the many regulations that were put into effect by Obamacare. This does open the door to causing a problem for people with pre-existing conditions who are looking for insurance in the marketplace. The new plan does protect people with pre-existing conditions, but the waivers may impact just how much protection they get in terms of cost. A pool will be set up to help counteract increased costs, but the current amount may have to be larger than originally proposed.

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It's Just the Beginning

It its time for Democrats and Republicans to do a little soul searching. It may be hard to do for some who don't possess a soul, but nevertheless, compromise is the path forward. This new bill has to go to the Senate. The Senate may offer a bill of their own or they may work with this one. If it gets out of the Senate, it goes back to the House. The path to repeal and reform is long and hard. It does not have to be made harder by virtue of the many personalities and biases in Congress. The Democrats are behaving like spoiled children. The lies about the plan are spreading. There is no justification for any of this. We need health care reform in this country. We can get it done, but it will require intelligence, compromise and the realization among the American people that nothing is completely free. Will the bill give everyone what they want? It's not likely, but if it insures Americans in an affordable and reasonable way, it will have done its job. Surely, this is not too much to ask for. This bill is the first step forward in a journey that is badly needed. The last seven years of Obamacare have shown us what can happen when false promises are made, and terrible ideas are put into play. This is our chance to get health care on the right track. It is now or never. It had better be now.

Harlotte's Song

Oh, what a tangled web we weave

When first we practice to deceive

Sir Walter Scott...

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      bradmasterOCcal 4 months ago from Orange County California

      Pop

      I agree, and thanks for the knishes. yum.

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Dear brad,

      It isn't only their eyesight issues that need to be solved, there is also the matter of anger management. See you at the Inn. I am bringing knishes.

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      bradmasterOCcal 4 months ago from Orange County California

      Pop

      The Salami and beer was great, I especially like the assortment of mustard. yum.

      It appears that like Hillary, some republicans think they can run for the presidency in 2020. Ironically, 20 20 is also the standard for good eyesight, but with the republicans it show nearsightedness.

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Good Morning brad,

      Your comment about the Republicans is spot on. If two in the Senate withhold their approval, this bill will flounder in limbo for a long time. In the meantime, people in a minimum of 4 states will not have coverage. If the Republicans blow this opportunity to set things right, it will be disastrous. See you at the Inn. Tonight it's Salami on rye with craft beers.

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      bradmasterOCcal 4 months ago from Orange County California

      Pop

      live, lived

      Anyway, while the healthcare insurance is necessary, and it needs to be affordable in the terms of reasonable looking at it from the insured's perspective. What this bill or Obamacare actually does is give healthcare quality, of cures for diseases, or even lengthening your life while under disease without dignity or quality of living.

      Diseases of 50 or more years are still killing and disabling people today. What has been accomplished today is that we now have thousands of diseases, where before we only had hundreds. Now we have a myriad of specialists, where before we only had a few.

      That would be a good thing, except that all the new doesn't give up a much better quality of life. People may be living longer, but how well are they living?

      I realize that this is out of scope for your article, so I will stop here. Feel free to set this comment free.

      Can we get the Republicans to vote en masse as a group that wants what is best for us? Any bets?

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      bradmasterOCcal 4 months ago from Orange County California

      Pop

      While I was eating my trio of croissants, I was thinking about the article.

      The part about opting out of the maternity etc, is like the problem we have with Cable bundling. Also, when I live in NY the township would tax property owner for school tax. So all those people that didn't have children in school were going to pay for those that had children. So, why not give them a tax break?

      Sorry, sugar fat high.

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      bradmasterOCcal 4 months ago from Orange County California

      Pop

      While I was eating my trio of croissants, I was thinking about the article.

      My first thought was not the democrats, because the biggest threat is coming from the republicans. Republican made a big gain in the last election, imo, because of Trump. Yet, some of them are just going rogue.

      Once again, I am neither democrat or republican, but there seems to be nor reason to vote republican, if they can't pass a healthcare bill, especially because they couldn't get all republicans voting in the same direction.

      Second, on the preexisting condition, the lapse of two months is really short, and to me it would depend on the reason that there was a lapse. Was a transition to a new policy being stalled by the company, with procedure. The point is was the lapse in control of the person, or the insurance company.

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Dear Pino,

      I am so disgusted with all the lies and distortions about everything! When I listen to one of these Dems strategists speak, I feel ill. I had the total displeasure of being forced to watch MSNBC today, and I have to say it was a total nightmare. I am off to the Inn. I may sleep over.

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      Pino Krisio 4 months ago

      Pop and Harlette:

      I am late for breakfast but I made it....

      The Democrats whine about everything, and lie about everything.

      Obama's goal was for a single payer system; that way the federal Government would have a hold on every one of us. This Obamacare was designed to fail. The only issue they had was that there is now a Republican President! Joke is on them!

      I would love to see the Republicans act like the Democrats for once. They need to scream that the Democrats are lying about everything. It appears that the one who yells the loudest gets the attention. Someone needs to advise the Democrats to stop saying that we are all going to die without Obamacare. I have faith in our President, and he will tweet whatever he needs to so that Americans get the truth.

      I am off to the Inn..... Wine and croissants...yummy......

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Good Morning maven,

      It better not take years. We don't have the luxury of time. People in 2 states have already lost access to coverage. Two more states are about to implode. See you at the Inn. Let's not talk about health care, it's making me sick!

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Good Morning Paula,

      I have never encountered insanity like this on such a mass scale. The rhetoric makes absolutely no sense. The left lies and life goes on for them. Free speech needs to be protected by all means, but when people are allowed to go on national television and lie about everything without rebuttal, something should be done. There have to be consequences for all the lies and distortion. Since when is it okay to brainwash citizens on a daily basis? The news should be straightforward. It can't lean left or right. It just has to be true. Is that too much to ask for? Apparently it is. Personally, I find it all very painful. It hurts my head! See you at the Inn.

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      maven101 4 months ago from Northern Arizona

      Tangled web indeed... Obamacare was written by teams of lawyers dedicated to obfucation, confusion, and legal landmines that don't come into play until 2018... Therefore making it impossible to repeal and replace ... This is going to take years to clean out the tangled legal web Obama and crew have created...

      I doubt Americans have that kind of patience.

      See you at the Inn, Pop...

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      Paula 4 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      pop....YOU are one of the few "sane." My approach to the situation is in an attempt to remain as sane as possible throughout the ever-continual insanity by the repetitive, unrelenting, whining, violence-prone, irrational. negative, hateful, envious, outrageous "You-know-who'sssss!!" There is now a rash of online bunk about "alleged" petitions being circulated by "psychiatrists" asking that Trump be impeached because he is insane!....One of our helpful hubbers wrote a short felonious, fictitious hub regarding these alleged petitions.

      I am an associate-member of "The American Association of Mental Health Professionals" & recipient of the bi-monthly Newsletter. The REALITY is that this has been a mad mission of ONE (as in the number "1" folks) psychologist, (NOT psychiatrist) John Gartner, who has been mass-mailing lie upon lie, fabricating numbers and false remarks. You would think, wouldn't you that no self-respecting, ethical Medical Professional as a legitimate group, would even approach such lunacy, considering the potential risk of serious legal ramifications very possible?

      Well, there's a particular group of citizens, STUPID enough to jump on this and fall all over the opportunity to thrash, insult and degrade Trump more and more....harder and harder......and I do mean STUPID!!

      No need to buy me dinner, Girlfriend. No appetite! But thanks anyway.!!! Scuse me again. Need to go breathe. As my buddy Bugs Bunny says.......What a bunch of Maroons!!

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Dear Paula,

      I didn't skip your comment, but perhaps I am insane. In any case, I see it now and I totally understand where you are coming from. I hate to repeat myself, but I admire your new approach to this troubling mess. Having said that, I am just not ready to back away from it all. See you at the Inn. Perhaps you could explain your approach to the news, politics and the rest. I'll save you a seat and buy you dinner.

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      Paula 4 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      pop.......Did you just skip over my comment?? I wasn't referring to you when I said "don't waste your time & energy! :P:

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Dear Jennifer,

      Here are the facts. The collective media has gone deaf, dumb and blind. For some insane reason, the Trump presidency has turned borderline normal people into freaks who hate Trump for no reason. The best we can do is hold on and ignore the loonies. See you at the Inn.

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Dear Tom,

      Of course you are right. Apparently, the Dems have been inflicted with a mental virus that prevents them from acting responsibly. I think they need to be treated in a facility far, far away for a very, very long time. See you at the inn.

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Dear Mike,

      Thanks so much for your excellent and informative comments. Obamacare sucked the life out of individuals ad families needing health coverage. The Dems are too stupid and mean to admit that it has failed big time. We need a new approach and at least, this is a good beginning. It may not be the total answer but it's a start. Se you at the inn, and thanks again for your fantastic commentary.

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      Tom Whitworth 4 months ago from Moundsville, WV

      Pop and Harlotte,

      I agree that the Democrats are not justified in their whining about the AHCA, but when has lack of justification EVER stopped a Democrat from whining?

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      Paula 4 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Good afternoon pop, Harlotte & hubber friends.....Is it even possible at this point that ANY of us can talk about politics and/or politicians w/o becoming frustrated, nauseous and thoroughly disgusted? If by chance, you can, "Congratulations," I suppose....but I must ask, "What rock have you been living under?"

      I have admitted and continue to maintain that for the sake of my own physical, mental and emotional health & stability, it's been necessary to back away from it all. (You are not alone, Bro-Bill, by an means) I've come to the realization that being ostrich-like can be beneficial in particular situations.

      How very shameful that Politicians (the vast majority) are far more corrupt than the filthiest & morally bankrupt low-lifes of organized crime. ..........and here we sit......smack dab in the midst of the repercussions from every single direction. Wonderful.

      This health care fiasco from the very beginning (WHEN, How & where did it begin, amigos?) to what looks like a never-ending mess of crap.....has placed us all into a sort of hell on earth.

      I am perplexed to say the least. My hope is in the possibility that "some" of our fellow-Americans understands it all extremely well in order that someone can e-x-p-l-a-i-n it to individuals like myself whose head literally spins, trying to understand.

      "Obamacare" has been lethal, hated, unwanted, very troublesome since day one.....has it not? Since it's inception, is that not ALL we have heard? The screams from all has been "Repeal and replace......Repeal & replace!!".......Now somehow the cries are different?

      OK, I really do give up. Say what you will, scoff all you want. I know when I've been beaten down to a mumbling, bumbling, semi-comatose zombie.

      By the way, save your time and energy......my questions are all rhetorical. "God save our country" (& sanity) Paula

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      Old Poolman 4 months ago

      Good morning Patti,

      I took the liberty of copying a part of a hub I wrote back when Obamacare first was voted into existence. For those who are crying and whining about attempts to "fix" Obamacare, you may have forgotten about these parts of the bill.

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      The Obamacare law includes 19 new taxes we are aware of at this time. The healthcare coverage's doesn't begin until 2014, but some of the taxes went into effect in 2013.

      Penalties on Individuals: Any individual who cannot prove they have a government approved healthcare plan will pay a fine of $695 or 2.5% of their annual income every year.

      Penalties on families: All families who can't prove they have purchased a government approved healthcare plan will pay an annual penalty of $347 per child up to $2,250 per family.

      Penalties on employers: Every employer with more than 50 employees are required to purchase government approved health coverage or pay an annual penalty of $2,000 per employee if even one employee receives a tax credit. There was a clause in the bill leaving employers an out if their employees work less than 30 hours per week. Many large employers took this easy-out and immediately made every employee a part-time employee.

      Needless to say this loophole in the Obamacare law has financially devastated some families. They were barely making ends meet with husband and wife working a combined 80 hours per week, and now they are working a combined 60 hours per week or less.

      I shouldn't have to ask, but what idiot could not see this coming when they wrote it into the bill? Even a child would not have fallen for this trap.

      Tax on investment income: The ObamaCare bill now imposes a 3.8% annual tax on investment income for individuals making $200,000 and families making $250,000 or more. They didn't factor inflation into these limits, so each and every year more citizens will fall victim to this new tax.

      Tax on "Cadillac" health plans: In 2018, a 40% annual tax will be imposed on health care plans exceeding $10,200 for individuals and $27,500 for families.

      Medicare tax increase: Those individuals earning over $200,000 and couples earning over $250,000 will pay an additional 0.9% in Medicare taxes.

      Tax on Home Sales: This is a new tax on home sales and real estate transactions that will cost us 3.8% of the selling price. This tax applies even if you sell your existing home one day and buy a new home the next day.

      This new tax ought to really get the real estate market moving again. (Sarcasm intended)

      Tax on medical aid devices: Another new 2.9 percent tax on medical aid devices. Certain items intended for personal use are exempt, but I have yet to see a list of what is exempt and what is included.

      So now when you finally have to buy that wheelchair for grandma, factor in another 2.9% on top of the state and local taxes.

      Tax on Tanning: This new tax is 10% and covers services at tanning salons. The business owner will collect this tax from customers and pay it to the feds. This is apparently the first federal sales tax in this country.

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      breakfastpop 4 months ago

      Good Morning billy,

      There simply have to be a few, billy. Trey Gowdy is a good man and so is Peter King. In any case, these fools are all we have, and for the record, politicians at the local level are awful in my book. See you at the Inn.

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      Jennifer 4 months ago

      Wait, are you telling me that Trump isn't trying to kill all of us. According to the news it's all Trumps fault and nobody will be able to get insurance and everyone will die!

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      Bill Holland 4 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I'll tell you what, Pop: you show me a D.C. politician who isn't bought and paid for by corporations and I'll sign up to campaign for that person. Until then, I'm going to work at the local level and do my part to stop this insanity.

      Have a great Sunday!