Utopia Or Breakdown? The UK Leaves The EU
To put it bluntly, I would have preferred a remain victory with some changes made by the UK if they were to stay within the EU.
But what I can't accept now is people saying that voting to leave is racist. It's so much more than that.
Yeah, some people voted for this reason that's true. But not all or even most.
Most leave voters I know had valid concerns and points and whilst not always backed with a plan their worries were real and the remain party also didn't answer those concerns with a certain plan too.
NEITHER or any campaign can now or ever predict the financial,economical or social future with certainty. If they could then they can give me a hint about next week's football scorelines so I can whack on a cheeky bet.
Leaving is scary, but staying in was not 100% full proof safe either because you cannot know what will happen.
My biggest worry in all this is that it was not a small divide, it wasn't even North vs South. It was the whole of the UK against one and other.
Each constituency seemed insanely close, just as close as the final tally of 51.9% to 48.1.
The decision has been made. It was close, but 17.4 million voted to leave, more than the 16.1 who voted to remain. A full 1.3 million more people is a big gap. Over half and we have to accept that. Even have a look at the results maps, where London was a HUGE remain vote but almost the entirety of England voted leave, so it was essentially London and Scotland VS the rest of the country. (Northern Ireland were JUST on the remain side too.)
London, deal with the fact that the rest of England and Wales feel,and live, very differently to you and go and think WHY, not just scratch your head and shout racism and stupidity. London earns and is given a lot more than the rest of the UK, especially the North East.
Scotland, please vote to stick together and keep the UK whole.
As for everyone else, our ancestors fought for democracy, we voted and did something a lot of people and countries can't. We gave (almost) everyone a voice and a consensus was made.
Countries are great because of the people who work together in it, not because of individuals who can't work with anyone who doesn't adhere or follow to their own personal wishes or demands. Life is full of compromises.
As for the old 'destroying the youth' yeah I was angry too but they lived through everything, including times before the EU. They were there when the EU was created originally for TRADE, and that's why the elderly voted in years ago. The EU has changed and become powerful, but also a little too intrusive.
Had it been today's EU back then would we have joined? Most likely not but then again we're playing Mrs Mystic again.
When all is said and done we have finished and voted.
So what now? Well, basically it's the waiting game. We'll have to see what trade deals we can keep in place and job promises we can uphold for workers in the UK from other EU countries and UK workers who live in EU countries.
Will the pound gain strength?
Will funding for key aspects of society increase?
Will crime decrease?
Will immigration be limited?
Will there be more jobs and less unemployment?
Will there be more equality and rights given to UK citizens?
Who knows and, sadly neither, do the winning Brexit campaigners.
David Cameron has resigned and Jeremy Corbyn is under pressure.
We could be without a Prime Minister and a leader of the opposition very soon, therefore taking steps to a withdrawal without an appropriate leader (please GOD not Boris Johnson, Gove or Farage).
If you're anxious, even just a little bit, then you're too naive or stupid. The UK sits on a time of uncertainty and darkness, no one knows just what will happen next.
All I do know is that we've broken the eggs now, so let's get back together and make a pretty great omelet. It's either work hard together to create this Utopian Great Britain, or we're going to be left with egg on our face.
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AUTHORIt is a tough line between welcoming, and the 'takeover', which sounds aggressive but hope you understand what I mean and in an area of my town, and I know my families town in Bolton, it is the same.
If you decide to live in a country I believe you can keep your culture, but also abide by the home nations. That's what I do in Taiwan, and they respect me and I them.
For me the quality of those able to settle in the UK must be changed and know of first hand accounts of the problems you mentioned about schools and the NHS etc.
London voted, as did Manchester and Newcastle, because the business usually exploit immigrants, they have lots of money and seldom see the negative side of immigration as immigrants, ironically like a lot of UK people, can't afford to live in the city close to the rich or those who voted remain.
At times I hated the lies of the leave campaign and the lack of a plan.
I believe the EU will make an example out of England and try their best to isolate England to deter others but too many 'weak' and dependable countries IMO are in the EU now, with more joining, who end up taking and receiveing a lot more than they are giving. The UK is a welfare state enough as it is without extending that throughout Europe.
I don't like the news surrounding the increase in racism, but it's tension that's been built up for the last 3o years and exploited by Farage/Boris/Gove.
I wish you luck if you're staying in England, more so if Jeremy Hunt is given the PM role
Additionally it's a 'cultural' issue. Some towns have had a large influx of Eastern European migrants (Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania) who've opened up food shops, imported foodstocks and the general cultural shift has affected other catering and food retail businesses. Housing stocks are inadequate, as are schools. People have complained that with the migrant influx British-born parents have found it hard to send their children to local schools. County councils have been unable to cope. The NHS is also stretched, with GPs having to turn away registering patients and hospitals are over-burdened.
I don't know why Londoners chose to remain, unless it's people who haven't had to rely on hospitals or surgeries. The population demographics in Newham where I live (London East) is around 70% migrant. Older people feel threatened, and you might walk some way in Tower Hamlets (E1) without hearing anyone speak English.
People here are willing to welcome outsiders, but when the outsiders seem to take over an area, they become a threat.
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Yeah it was a protest vote that, to an extent I agree with.
Just feels like London sticks its fingers in its ears and when the rest of the country have problems they don't see it.
It's all big cities. My mother said she went to Manchester for a cup of tea and a scone, it cost 12 pounds, which she would have to work an hour and a half for.
The wage/money divide is huge but what I can't stand are the leave lies and the increase in what feels like racism.
I would like to see a points/payment introduction I think. My hometown Blackpool voted 67% leave and they have a lot of immigrants who have caused a lot of problems/claim benefits. Yes, sometimes we should help refugees but not immigrants who move freely just to claim.
I can't live in Taiwan (now) or even in Australia without having certain skills.
It's thought the demographics were (very) roughly under 40s vs over 40s, although I think it's more complex than that. Scotland wants out of the Auld Alliance that they entered into after their 18th Century 'Panama Project' bankrupted Scotland and their ministers tried to hide the transaction from the general public with a meeting in an Edinburgh basement.
Ulster got more financial help from the EU than it did from us, and access to Irish markets was essential to its farmers. That left England and Wales with a 'well-off vs worse off' demographic, 'Them what has keeps, 'them what hasn't weeps' (where've I read that before?)
It was 'getting back at the big boys', a protest vote that got bigger. I don't suppose for one minute the Brexiters thought their 'Out' vote would pull a greater punch than the 'Remain' voters.
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