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What President Trump Did Was Wrong, But Is It Impeachable?

Updated on October 31, 2019

While 55% of Americans do believe that Trump's dealing with Ukraine and holding back already approved military aid for them to fight Russia along its border in order to get a "favor", that is, political dirt on his Democratic opponent in 2020 (Joe Biden), is wrong, is it a "high crime" and an impeachable offense?

Some think it is, some do not. But also on the line for Trump is the findings of the Mueller Report that found almost 10 cases of potential obstruction of justice and abuse of power. Of those, there were certainly a few clear cut examples where Trump acted like a king, doing whatever he wanted. Some might say, he acted as a mafia boss, and again, some of the testimony clearly indicated so. This is not about Russian collusion, for which, as far as the Mueller Report was concerned, did not occur between Trump and Putin.

Since the Mueller Report, in fact on the day after its release, the whole Ukrainian affair and abuse of power began when Trump called the Ukrainian president. It was almost an act of defiance by Trump who found the Mueller findings a joke and has ever since acted like the King of America, something Republicans should think about as Trump obstructed and defied all efforts of the U.S. Congress to investigate. Trump surely looks like a guilty man trying hide his actions that he thought would never come to light until the whistle blower. A person guilty of something does try to hide and not cooperate with authorities.

Past Impeachments

The 1974 impeachment of President Nixon rose to a criminal offense since POTUS ordered the break-in of the Democratic Party HQ. Nixon did all the same tactics as Trump is doing by calling the Press as the enemy, fake news, ignoring subpoenas from Congress, etc, until his attorney, James Dean, had had enough and blew the whistle. Nixon went on to defy the release of his personal recordings and notes all based on Executive Privilege. Just like Trump. However, unlike now, the Republicans finally agreed to impeach Nixon, once it became obvious. They finally saw that it was in the best interest of America, not their party. of course, Nixon resigned instead of going through the impeachment trial.

With Clinton, while his real estate fiasco led to the salacious sex affair with a White House intern, after all the investigations, the impeachment failed with the Republicans failing to get the votes even when they were in the majority. They had conducted their investigation is relative secrecy also, just like today, because it is more reliable. The articles of impeachment in the Clinton affair all failed because what Clinton did had not risen to impeachable offenses according to the lawmakers. Clinton did lie about the sex escapade, at first, but later admitted to it. Today, Trump is almost always spinning facts or just lying to the public.

Trump Impeachment

Despite how you personally feel about the man who is president, that aside, it should be clear to all that Trump seems to think he is above the law. This should incense all Americans. But, obviously, his warped supporters view him differently. They love his defiance and fail to see how his actions have damaged America's role in the world and at home.

This warped reality is shown in the Republican party. They will stand by their man no matter what he does. They have no desire to break away from their party. With this, anyone can see how it will all end.

Trump will not be impeached. He will never go to trial for the abuses of power and obstruction charges because the Senate is Republican. Trump will be acquitted and he will announce that the Democratic witch hunt showed that he did nothing wrong, which of course, is just more lies. But, that will be his spin. The Democrats will look bad for the failure. Thus, the only hope in removing Trump (barring assassination or heart attack\stroke) is the election in Nov. 2020.

Should Republicans see the light and vote with the Democrats, then, the impeachment trial will occur. But it is still not a sure thing.

Let the drama begin!

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    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      7 months ago

      Well, Nunes also went to the Ukraine investigate Biden in Dec. 2018 and he refuses to talk about it. He is scum and graham is a disgrace.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Ooooh, a glimmer of hope.....

      Mike Pence - Professional Mannequin

      @vespertilioAJR

      “Boom! Lev Parnas, one half of Giuliani's money-laundering goons, says he has "hard evidence" of serious wrongdoing by Trump and he is asking the Impeachment Committee to call him and testify about Trump's attempts to bribe and extort the Ukraine.“

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Yes. And then it’s time to shut up. We know el ding dong fuhrer doesn’t like criticism.

      It’s going to be very very grim, and I’m sad my kids and grandkids will be living in it.

      One is mixed race, one special needs. I dread the future for them.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      7 months ago

      By christmas, it will be all over and the Senate will vindicate Trump and he will be even more of a dicatator

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      I turn the sound down any time I see a Trump Republican take the mic. It is just poisonous to listen to them, like watching a slasher movie. I keep that stuff out of my head.

      Now, Bill Weld or Joe Walsh, I can listen to all day long.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      7 months ago

      I can't even listen to the BS from Nunes, he is so biased.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Or else, they're protecting their own hides....have long been reading about republicans taking Russian cash.

      Nunes winery is financed by them, or something.....remember, that yacht of his there was a party on it with drugs and young girls....

      https://www.newsweek.com/winery-part-owned-devin-n...

      Not financed:

      https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xy97bj/devin-nu...

      Nunes was always acting like his pants were on fire......running interference for Trump....a real water boy.

      Was very strange!

      And it just might happen that they will have to dump Trump, if they ever want to show their faces in public again.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      7 months ago

      The Republicans will stick together like Nunes and others, so blinded by Trump. Very sickening that they don't have the backbone to go against Trump.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Jennifer Williams was listening to the call. She took notes.

      Slam dunk.

      Oh, btw, was Linda Tripp there when the blue dress incident happened? Wouldn’t her testimony be hearsay?

      Do we change all the rules for Trump? Or are republicans just genetically superior to the rest of us?

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      James O'Brien

      @mrjamesob

      “It’s not Johnson’s relationships with women or Russians per se that compromise his position & our nations so horribly. It’s his relationships with repeatedly lying & repeatedly getting away with lying. It’s not a flaw, it’s a modus operandi.”

      —Talking about Borus Johnson.

      But he could have been talking about Trump. They are both the same. I’m sure you’ve seen Johnson’s ex in the news.....whom he’s denying....she even looks a little like Stormy Daniels.

      Yes, lying is their MO. And they have both been helped by Putin, Bannon and Mercer.....right odd, eh mate?

      “It’s not a conspiracy, its a plan.”

      But with these two fellas, telling lies big and long enough is NOT going to work.

      What did you think, America and the UK are personal playgrounds for the rich?

      Personal bank accounts for big biz?

      I do believe the Magna Carta came from there, and the Constitution followed suit.

      I think greed has made some of these people lose their minds.

      I don’t know about you, but I don’t exist to pad Trump’s pockets.

      And citizens in the UK don’t want US ruining their healthcare!

      Get a grip. Pelosi sure has one.

      https://youtu.be/uwZTgRVQdp4

      You can ignore what’s going on, or pretend it’s not happening. The rest of us don’t live in Lala land.

      We’re not going to be another notch in Putin’s belt.

      America is not Trump, Inc.

      and

      “Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither”

      *******

      And I do hope Trump is ok, nothing serious with him. Our health is all we have.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Wrong. If he had concerns, he should have contacted OUR fbi. Or done something about it the 2 years he had all branches of gvt. Funny he waits til now, isn’t it?

      Sorry, you may think he’s telling the truth, and everyone else is lying, I don’t.

      In fact, I’d go so far as to not believe a word out of his mouth.

      I love the excuses you all make for him. Almost as if you’ve lost your minds.

    • Left By The Left profile image

      M S Beltran 

      7 months ago from USA

      "Do me a favor" means 'do me a favor.' I don't see it as damning evidence. Politicians say it to each other all the time. There is a lot of one hand washes the other in politics-- we help you, you help us, let's be friends, yadda yadda yadda.

      The only real question left is whether Trump was actually trying to get Ukraine to investigate corruption for the good of the nation, or if he was trying to get Ukraine to investigate corruption in an attempt to dig up possible dirt on an opponent. Or maybe it was both.

      I don't put it past Trump that he would like the idea of digging up dirt on an opponent (few politicians would, honestly). The question is whether he had any legitimate concern that there was corruption. If he did have concerns, then it was within his right to try and push a foreign nation to get to the bottom of things. The fact that it could potentially knock an opponent out of the race could have been just icing on the cake, but not the cake itself.

      It was poor judgment, regardless-- he should have never specified Biden explicitly. Poor judgment isn't impeachable, though.

      I'm not going to get into unrelated issues here like Comey, etc.; they are separate arguments and not accepted facts that can be used as evidence of anything for this hearing.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      If he’s not removed, media will give him another four years.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      7 months ago

      Since impeachment is a political process, it seems that most democrats think he should be impeached. Most republicans think he was wrong but its not that bad since he could be voted out in 2020. I suspect that is how he will be removed from office, not by the Senate.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      7 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      What does “do me a favor” mean to you?

      What does firing Comey to get that ”Russher thing” off his back mean to you?

      He actually did fire Comey..

      He actually did with hold aide to Ukraine.

      He actually did praise Wikileaks, who released emails stolen from Americans, by Russian military ops.

      He actually did tell Mulvaney and Bolton not to testify.

      You may see these ACTIONS as that of a poor maligned victim, more of us don’t.

      What is frightening is people who are apathetic at such actions.

      So what? Whatever he does is ok, is what frightens me.

      And, as you lovely people said before passing the Patriot Act, “if he’s got nothing to hide, what’s the problem?”

      Eternal Vigilance is the price of freedom, and Democracy dies in the darkness.

    • Left By The Left profile image

      M S Beltran 

      7 months ago from USA

      The only thing that is clear to me is that a lot of people are assuming they know what Trump thinks, and that these thoughts are impeachable. They*think* he thinks he's above the law. They *think* he won't step down if he loses an election. They they *think* his motives were to dig up dirt on his political opponent.

      It's a frightening thought that the new norm going forward is that presidents will be impeached for what their political opponents think they might have been thinking, or think they might do.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Omg.... I swear, I just clicked back on Twitter to find this:

      @EdHull8

      “Trump’s Impeachment is more like a Demonic Exorcism, and what is left after you remove the evil force from Trump? Something like Jello. Stick your finger in it and there’s nothing of substance there.“

      .....I’m not alone

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Yes. There are others, such as Bill Maher, who claim he won’t step down even if he loses the election.

      Here’s a scary scenario:

      https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/11903678...

      Given the powers behind trump: big money, big crime, it’s not unthinkable.

      Pelosi is a Catholic.....I hope she has studied exorcism.

      The real power behind trump is out of this world. Imo

      Not kidding.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      8 months ago

      Not so sure about that.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Scaramucci predicts he’ll resign:

      3:10

      https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6099887567001/#sp=...

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      8 months ago

      Since he most likely be acquitted, 2020 will be the last chance to remove him. Unless, he resigns.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      He’s at it again

      “Exclusive: The Trump administration is withholding $105 million in military aid for Lebanon, two days after Prime Minister Hariri resigned. One official said the move could pave the way for Russia to move in https://reut.rs/2WwWq3t“

      By “he”, I mean Vladimir.....you know, your president.

    • lovemychris profile image

      Leslie McCowen 

      8 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

      Oh, no problem there.....he’s bribing them to say the impeachment is wrong.

      Of course, if they put him under oath, it’d be all over for him.

      Why aren’t they? Why go through all this? Just put him under oath, like they did Clinton.

      I will never understand the special treatment he gets.

      I mean, Mueller said they didn’t bring him in, cause he’d just lie anyway......HUH?

      That cover letter for the trump tower spy meeting should have been enough.

      How many chances does this guy get to lie?

      And junior

      And sessions....

      And pence

      And.......is there one honest person among them?

      He asked foreign gvts for help in winning him an election. On tv.

      But, “he did nothing wrong”?

      Some people need de-programming. 16% of the country, which is lording it over 84% of the rest of us. Why? Because the electoral college favors republicans, that’s why.

      Ask Steve Schmidt. He says if you let him get away with it, all of our freedoms are gone.

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      Mike Russo 

      8 months ago from Placentia California

      The only way the senate will agree to impeach Trump is if the public opinion of Trump supporters changes to the point it puts the senators in jeopardy of being re-elected.

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      wba108@yahoo.com 

      8 months ago from upstate, NY

      You're right, Trump won't be impeached even though the entire Democrat party and media establishment have desperately tried to find something.

      About Trump being a King, did u feel the same way when Obama pushed through the Affordable Care Act in the dead the night without a single Republican vote? He was notorious for bypassing Congress and using executive power to achieve his goals.

      Do u think Obama should have been impeached when his department of Justice helped put guns in the hands of Mexican cartels? Obama's behavior was so sleazy that 17 House Democrats felt compelled to vote with Republicans to find Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.

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