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What Should Happen in the Aftermath of the Obamagate Scandal

Updated on May 20, 2020
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Jack is a volunteer at the CCNY Archives. Before retiring, he worked at IBM for over 28 years. His articles have over 120,000 views.

Introduction

After three and a half years, of expose and investigations and congressional hearings and inspector general reports and releases of confidential documents, we finally have a good account of what happened to the Trump administration since the election of 2016. We have a documented timeline of what happened, who were involved and what was done. Now, the real question is what should happen going forward.

- May 2020

There Are Five Components

  1. Elected Officials
  2. Government Agencies
  3. Government Personnels
  4. The Media
  5. The Donors

The elected officials includes President Obama, VP Biden, Congressman Adam Schiff and Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

The government agencies includes the FBI, the DOJ, thE NSA and the IRS...

The personnels includes many high ranking officials and appointees. People like FBI Director James Comey and John Brennan...and Attorney General Loretta Lynch.

The media includes the NYT, CNN! Washington Post and the rest of the main stream media NBC, CBS, ABC...

The big donors include George Soros and Jeff Bezos... who have used their wealth to try and influence our political class.

What Should Happen?

This past few years should never be repeated again in any future administration. What I mean by that specifically is the abuse of power at the highest level of our government. Our federal agencies was never meant to be politicized. The media failed in their important role of watchdog. Some of our elected officials were given free reign to lie and deceive without consequences.

We lost civility in our public discourse. We need to restore the public trust in all levels of government including the Congress, the courts, the Executive branch and the media.

The failure occurred across the board and we allowed it to happen. Where were the whistleblowers? How could the corruption reached so high as to touch the White House?

Here is what I think should happen.

1. Follow the rule of law. Those who were caught in doing wrong needs to be prosecuted. If necessary, they need to go to jail.

2. Those in elected positions, who participated in this, should resign in shame, or else be voted out of office by their constituents.

3. Those in the media that promoted this needs to be fired and the companies they work for should be sanctioned by the FCC and placed on probation.

4. Civil servants need to be held accountable. There needs to be some consequences for breaking our laws and acting as a partisan hack.

5. The double standards must end. We need to apply the law equally to all, including people with power and privilege. We cannot have one set of rules for Democrats and another for Republicans.

What About the Leaders?

In this case, the leaders are the President and Vice President. They are ultimately responsible for what transpired under their watch. It would be a stain on our country if we went after them in a court of law after the fact. Our system was designed to remove a sitting president for wrong doing by way of impeachment. It was not setup to go after an ex-president after he left office. What can happen and should in this case is the revelation of all the facts. Let history decides their legacy. Even though they will not have to sit in a court of law to defend themselves, and spent a fortune in legal fees, they will be held in the court of public opinion as a failure. They would have ruined their reputation and their legacy. That is the ultimate price for their crime.

Summary

These past few years was an anomaly. This was not how democracies work. We cannot have one administration, using all the power of the federal government to undermine a candidate from another party and try to defeat him and even after the election, try to impeach him with some trumped up charges.

Postscript

Having received a comment from a reader named Howard, who claims it is Trump who has been the one breaking our laws, I must revise my article.

People like Howard, are part of the problem. No matter what the evidence, they just believe on faith that Trump is a bad President and everything that happened to him is well justified. It reminded me of Karl Marx who said the end justify the means.

People like Howard are short sighted. They think they can do whatever it takes to remove Trump. They don't realize if we go down that road, we are no longer a Constitutional Republic. We will turn into a banana republic where the dictator calls all the shots.

If we let this go on, what's to stop a future president of doing the same to a future candidate?

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have just demonstrated why we are a divided nation.

The facts just don't matter anymore. It is people like Howard who just knows he is "right" and we are wrong. We were wrong to elect Trump, and we are still wrong even when the evidence showed it was all a setup by the Obama Administration.

People like Howard cannot be won over with logic or common sense. He and his kind needs to be defeated totally.

This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional.

© 2020 Jack Lee

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    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      “I'm sure you've looked through the list of 2,300 “

      I sure did and no where can I find in print what party they belong to

      Why do you think that is? That is the media doing what they always do, censoring what they know is the truth so as to create a fake news talking point for dodoes like Joc to gobble up and parrot out.

      If you think censoring theIr party affiliations is responsible journalism you’re opinion is as pathetic as their reporting.

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      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      A radio show is a fact to you, got it. What I expected from the former chef and chief political officer of the backroom of the local McDonalds.

      2,300 people with experience prosecuting cases such as Flynn's disagree with Barr in this instance. Let me know when your aliens from Mars have any previous experience to chime in. Much like Covid-19 treatments, I'll take the word of significant number of specialists over the guy pushing the hydroxychloroquine.

      No one involved in the case has opposed the motion to dismiss? Seems the judge overseeing the case has some doubts about whether a guy who pleaded guilty twice to the charges has some doubts about whether the case should be dismissed.

      I'm sure you've looked through the list of 2,300 before making a stupid claim like they are all Democrats or Anti-Trumpers. Why not just go full conspiracy theory and claim they are all part of the deep state, since we all know anyone opposing Trump must be a member.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      “Flynn, a foreign agent working for Turkey. This, after numerous contacts the Trump Campaign had with the country that attacked our election.”

      ROFL Joc actually believes these talking points!!!

      Jack, after all the actual facts have been articulated can you believe he just parrots a totally false talking point?

      See, like I said, these TDSyndromocrats are totally unhinged and nothing but propagandists. Cognitive bias is too nice a term, looney toon is more like it!

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      See! Joc just Parrots a talking point instead of acknowledging the facts. As I predicted!

      “2,300 former members of the Department of Justice” opposed the motion to dismiss

      ?

      A million people with no standing in the case probably oppose the motion to dismiss so what! That’s like saying aliens from Mars oppose the motion to dismiss!

      No one involved in the case has opposed the motion to dismiss and that is the fact! Rightly so because there is no legal precedent or grounds to oppose it and the appeal will bear this out.

      So when it does what talking point Joc will you be parroting? The same stupid one I’m sure.

      Do you even know what a minuscule fraction 2000 of former DOJ members is? And of course every one of the 2000 are Democrats or never Trumpers!

      For God’s sake there are criminals who are former DOJ members!

      That’s the best you can come up with though, as always, as I predict correctly everytime you ignore the facts and parrot the most convenient looney talking point that has no real meaning what so ever.

    • Valeant profile image

      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      Wow, a discussion about having to be careful with sharing information with Flynn, a foreign agent working for Turkey. This, after numerous contacts the Trump Campaign had with the country that attacked our election. That's not a scandal, just smart national security.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      Dan Proft and Amy Jacobson talk with Fred Fleitz, former CIA analyst, about a recently declassified memo that Susan Rice allegedly sent to herself detailing a meeting between former President Obama, Vice President Biden and others where withholding information from the incoming administration was discussed.

      Hugh Hewitt and Washington Examiner correspondent Byron York talk about district judge Emmet Sullivan’s delaying tactics in the DOJ effort to dismiss the case against General Michael Flynn.

      This entire radio show will never even be listened to by the likes of the pot smuggler or Joc because it is all the truth and it would kill them to have to listen to the truth but start at 6:30 for the interview about Susan Rice allegedly sending to herself detail about a meeting between former President Obama, Vice President Biden and others where withholding information from the incoming administration was discussed.

      https://omny.fm/shows/townhall-review-conservative...

      Of course if they even comment it will only be to shoot the messengers!

    • Valeant profile image

      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      'No one has opposed the motion to dismiss.' No one except the 2,300 former members of the Department of Justice. I guess there are more Trump-deranged lawyers out there than you can count Nature Joe Myers.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      “The Michael Flynn case has gone off the hinges. In reality, there is no case. The Department of Justice has filed a motion to dismiss the case against the former national security adviser after new documents showed a large-scale plot from within the FBI to entrap Flynn despite a lack of evidence concerning Russian collusion. Remember, Flynn made some phone calls to the Russians which made him a target. These weren’t pernicious calls.This was standard operating procedure for any incoming administration. Yet, James Comey wanted to get Flynn at all costs.

      No one has opposed the motion to dismiss. The prosecutor has resigned there is no case, but Judge Emmet Sullivan wants to keep this circus act going. He’s allowing Trump-deranged lawyers to file amicus briefs and appointed a retired Judge John Gleeson to fight the DOJ motion and see if the federal courts could file perjury charges against Flynn, now that he’s fought to withdraw that plea deal regarding the bogus “lying to the FBI” charge.

      Sullivan is overreaching and Flynn’s legal team has filed a new petition to drop the case and get the former general out of legal purgatory. The DC Court of Appeals could have rejected the writ of mandamus outright. They didn’t. Instead, their actions point to the court being highly disturbed by Sullivan’s actions, as they’ve ordered him to respond personally to the writ in the next ten days. The petition, filed by Flynn’s attorney, Sidney Powell, calls for the case to be dismissed, the judge removed, and overall legal relief for her client. Sullivan had called Flynn a traitor in open court. It shouldn’t be shocking if a good chunk of this writ is agreed upon. Some legal advisers noted that this writ has already climbed a huge hurdle with a response like this, which is the most drastic of options for Sullivan.”

      That is from:

      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/05/24...

      And because it isn’t a left wing source designed to be parroted by TDS loons the pothead and his buddies first response if they respond at all will not be to address one fact in the article but they will shoot, not the messenger, but the venue of the article. That’s how devoid of cognitive honesty they are.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      See Jack, predictably more cognitive bias.

      Anyone who is up on all this can see immediately he is just parroting left wing talking points meant to fuel TDS afflicted people who never vet or check the I

      Opposing facts to what they are parroting.

      Hard to make this up when the truth is everywhere and they simply ignore it.

    • Randy Godwin profile image

      Randy Godwin 

      11 months ago from Southern Georgia

      You forget about the 10+ instances of Obstruction of Justice Trump committed, Jack. Some of these were to try to avoid answering questions about Trump's gang conversing with the Russians.

      Barr tried to downplay these incidents, but is now trying to hide the Grand Jury testimony from the House who has the duty of oversight over Trump's actions.

      Unless of course, you don't think the actions of any POTUS--Republican or Democrat--should be overseen.

      I really don't believe you want that, Jack.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      So right Jack! But TDS is resident here, you will never get them to acknowledge they are wrong. They don’t care, their mission is always to shoot the messenger or make fun of and lie about Trump and they throw in his supporters because that’s who they are, purveyors of innuendo and hatred. They need therapy.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Randy, it was clear when Mueller appeared in the Congressional committee testifying about the Report that he had no clue what was in the report. He was chosen to head up the investigation but did none of the work. He was just a figure head, to give credibility to the process. The 18 or so lawyers hired was the ones who was involved directly in the witch hunt. They could not come up with any evidence hence they went after some of Trump's campaign colleagues hoping to squeeze them to lie. It didn't work.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      Jack, keep tellin it like it is!

      But it won’t have any affect on minds afflicted with arrested brain development.

      Cognitive bias overrules honest reason and critical thinking as you can see being demonstrated before our eyes.

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      Randy Godwin 

      11 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Correct JOC, Mueller even stressed it was not an exoneration of Trump in his report. I don't know why Trump's supporters keep lying about it unless they're trying to convince themselves it's true.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Joc,

      You fail to report the facts. It was under the Obama administration that all this went down. It was Obama who said, there was no Russian interference with our elections, Go google it. He said our election process was so robust... that no foreign country can change the outcome. In addition, every country, including ours, try to interfere in other countries elections to benefit us. Obama try to affect the Re-election of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu...and failed. Was he breaking any laws?

    • Valeant profile image

      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      C'mon Joe Myers, all you do is come here to troll. I post facts from the Mueller Report and all you do is attack me. That's why I reported you, because you add nothing to the discussion.

    • Valeant profile image

      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      Jack, Trump has been a friend to Russia for a long time. You act like he didn't have those connections prior to announcing his run. Or that there weren't Russian mafia members living two floors down from him in his own Trump Tower in New York.

      Russians hacked the DNC days after the infamous Trump Tower meeting with Donald Jr., Manafort and Kushner. They released information from that hack to assist Trump in being elected. Mueller could not prove collusion, but I just listed two clear cases of Manafort colluding with the Russians to assist their targeting efforts for their social media campaign.

      Russia is a hostile foreign government. They interfered in our election and their preferred candidate won the election. It's just a simple case of protecting our national security to see if that candidate conspired with that hostile foreign government or is in any way shape or form, beholden to them.

      Why are conservatives so opposed to knowing the depth of the Russia influence on our country? That's what I wonder. And why did Trump obstruct that investigation? That doesn't seem very patriotic - obstructing an investigation into an attack on our country.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      Once Joc’s comments or behavior is revealed to the extent he can’t even fabricate a defense for his behavior he always reports you. He probably has reported me a dozen times because he can’t stand hearing the truth, another symptom of cognitive bias.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      another observation. Some people are just too sensitive. They don't like being challenged and will use whatever interpretation of the comments as a personal attack.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      T, my experience with HP policing is up and down. There is no "standard".

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      I explained the answer to your questions of Joc Jack.

      He’s reporting me to admin after he smeared me with innuendo and name calling. Another example of cognitive bias.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      JOC, just trying to understand your position on Trump. Do you honestly think back in 2015/2016, when he declared he would run for president and he concocted this Russian idea to help him win?

      Who is pushing this theory? why do you belief it?

      Where is the hard evidence?

      How would a successful TV personality, and a businessman in NYC come up with this hair-brain idea and have the connections and the guts to pull it off?

      That is what is so incredible about our FBI. The top officials that Obama put in charge of our justice department and our investigative agency actually think the Steele dossier is a possible truth and ran with it? Anyone with an elementary understanding of Trump would know what was charged in the dossier is a total fictional fabrication...along with the golden shower story...

      Why would you, a rational person, take any of this as fact? why would Adam Schiff pursue this and wasted our countries valuable resources on a witch hunt that is baseless?

    • Valeant profile image

      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      Reported to the Admin.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      People like Joc are just like the pot smuggler. All they seem able to do is parrot talking points, use innuendo and make fun of your user name or avatar!

      Quite juvenile, but that is the trademark of arrested brain development due to pot smoking. An MRI is all you need for a diagnosis but the condition is irreversible so why bother to get your brain checked out? These kind feel better not knowing because their whole world view is a lie.

    • Valeant profile image

      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      From the Mueller Report, Volume I:

      On August 2, 2016, Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met in New York City with his long-time business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who the FBI assesses to have ties to Russian intelligence. Kilimnik requested the meeting to deliver in person a peace plan for Ukraine that Manafort acknowledged to the Special Counsel's Office was a "backdoor" way for Russia to control part of eastern Ukraine; both men believed the plan would require candidate Trump's assent to succeed (were he to be elected President). They also discussed the status of the Trump Campaign and Manafort's strategy for winning Democratic votes in Midwestern states. Months before that meeting, Manafort had caused internal polling data to be shared with Kilimnik, and the sharing continued for some period of time after their August meeting.

      Deny and insult all you want T-Sad, but that's Trump's Campaign Chairman sharing strategy and data with the Kremlin. That's pretty clearly colluding.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      A Perfect example of cognitive bias by Joc. He just can’t always see things as they are. He doesn’t simply glean information through the senses and act on it; instead, his mind gives that info his own spin, which is deceptive.

    • Valeant profile image

      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      And yet, T comes on here and claims Mueller cleared Trump of 'collusion.' Actually, volume I of his report is damning in terms of 'collusion.' What he could not prove, was conspiracy. Not that I believe T-Sad has ever read the Mueller report. It would cut into his online trolling and insulting time. Can't have that now. Who would be an internet tough guy if we didn't have T-Sad.

    • tsadjatko profile image

      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      My sentiment exactly. But there is nothing you can do.

      You can’t drive them crazy because they already are crazy.

      Or if you want to be kind you can explain them by this.

      Bias of mind, or cognitive bias. Cognitive biases are common thinking errors that hinder our rational decision-making.

      They don't always see things as they are. They don't simply glean information through the senses and act on it; instead, their minds give that info their own spin, which can be deceptive. The inner experience is not always in perfect sync with what's going on in the outer world.

      I can’t think of a better explanation. If I said that was a definition of crazy would you disagree?

      Arrested brain development from pot use also results in cognitive bias and I guarantee you if they were honest they would admit they used pot during the ages of brain development which goes from youth into the mid twenties.

      ABD from pot use is not a theory. There are 150 accepted studies that prove it and if you read about what part of the brain is affected it totally explains the hypocrisy and twisted views and behavior of the left.

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      Greg Schweizer 

      11 months ago from Corona, California.

      Jack, why do you think the jackass fits the democrats so well as their symbol?

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      T, What do you think we should do about people like Howard and JOC? We are not a dictatorship. We are a nation of laws and we have the first amendment. They create a threat to our democracy when they choose to ignore wrong doings by the people in power. I don't know how we can fix this or if we can fix it. They are as stubborn as mules, and as insane in their TDS... Perhaps that is the ultimate solution. Drive them crazy so they will be marginalized by the voting public...

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      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      Mueller exonerated Trump from any “collusion” with Russia, recently released documents prove there was never even any evidence to launch an investigation of Trump while there is plenty of evidence that Hiliary paid for and colluded with the Russians to create the phoney dossier. The intelligence agencies have said the Russians did nothing to affect the outcome of the election and that no American was involved with their efforts.

      Yet Joc thinks he’s being smart dwelling on Russian collusion? All that shows is he has bias of mind! Cognitive biases can impair rational judgment and lead to poor decisions and sway your thinking.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      I don't see anything wrong. Russia has been trying to influence our election forever. Even Obama said our system is too robust to be affected. The Muller investigation found no collusion. What else is there?

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      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      Of course you see no cause in Russia having attacked our elections and then someone talking to the Russian Ambassador about the sanctions Obama had put on them. Someone who was not yet confirmed to an official US government position and who had been a foreign agent employed by Turkey from August to November of 2016, while working in the Trump Campaign.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      JOC,

      The unmasking is illegal without cause. The whole FISA application was based on erroneous data and false information and worse made up intel paid for by the DNC - The Steele dossier. Unmasking of an American citizen, a two star general, is wrong on so many levels. Why do you think Susan Rice wrote an email to herself two weeks after the meeting in the Oval office?

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      The Logician 

      11 months ago from now on

      Jack, She was acquitted by James Comey in July of 2016, 6 months before Trump took office?

      Actually he didn’t acquit her, he described every law she broke and how she broke them but simply said he wouldn’t recommend prosecution because...only because... really, this is hard to actually say, because she didn’t mean to break the law!!!!? Laws that didn’t require her intent to break them to be prosecuted btw.

      If that’s not insane I don’t know what is!

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      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      Jack, what I'm referring to is the investigation the Trump State Department ran into Hillary's e-mails. That was in 2019, and they cleared her of any criminality. The point being here is that Trump often cries foul (Birtherism accusation, Hillary e-mails, and now Biden), but there isn't anything there that rises to the level of criminality. The unmasking is a perfectly legal process that people like you think is illegal.

      Gullible rubes like yourself jump on board and run with the accusations like they are gospel and then are too proud to admit the accusations were exaggerations. You're easily riled up and unable to see through the charade.

      What you call the 'deep state' to us are career officials exposing Trump's violations of our norms and laws.

      Speaking of the unmasking - Russia had just hacked the DNC and released e-mails that had a likely affect on the 2016 elections, and then an American is overheard corresponding with the Russian Ambassador about Obama's sanction for that attack. Trump supporters are more worried about protecting the identity of a person talking about voiding the penalties for an attack on our country than evaluating how that could be seen as coordination or a reward for a hostile foreign government attacking us.

      Forget about the deep state, at least they are Americans. You're siding with the people who let Russia off the hook after attacking our democracy - just because it helped your political party. To me, and others, that's treasonous behavior.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      JOC,

      She was acquitted by James Comey in July of 2016, 6 months before Trump took office.

      Why are you defending her?

      No one thought she was innocent.

      She was a terrible candidate and that was why she lost. She should have listened to Bill Clinton, she would be President today.

      On another topic, the "deep state" is winning. There are just too many of them. Despite the best effort of Trump, they will still be around 4 years from now when Trump is out of office.

      I hope you realize the fact we are debating and fighting over this is prove they are winning. That is their goal - to keep the American public in the dark and fighting among ourselves so they can continue to do the bidding of the "power that be" who is really in control.

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      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      I did not claim Powell had his own server. Try paying attention to detail.

      And why am I quoting information from a Mid-October 2019 report delivered to Congress from Trump's State Department? Comey was not part of the State Department or your fabricated 'deep state' at that time.

      If she got away with murder, then Trump's own administration allowed it because those with conclusions they arrived at that you're disputing.

    • jackclee lm profile imageAUTHOR

      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      JOC, that is totally false. Colin Powell did not have his own email server. He was using AOL to conduct some official business...

      Clinton deliberately setup her own server in her basement to avoid FOIA requests...This is well known to everyone, including President Obama. She used this to get illegal donations to the Clinton Foundation while serving as Secretary of State. You can defend Hillary all you want but the truth is, she got away with murder with the help of Comey.

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      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      Trump was neither gracious or kind...ever. The State Department came to the conclusions.

      The State Department’s report reaches two broad conclusions. Clinton’s “use of a private email system to conduct official business added an increased degree of risk” that classified information would be compromised. But “there was no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information.”

      In 2016, the State Department’s inspector general also determined that Clinton’s Republican predecessors, Secretaries Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice, also received classified information on their personal email accounts.

      So Clinton committed the same mistake committed by her predecessors — Powell reportedly advised Clinton to use a personal email account for non-classified communications shortly after Clinton became secretary — and the State Department’s report found no systemic mishandling of information.

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      Randy Godwin 

      11 months ago from Southern Georgia

      Even Trump doesn't know what crime Obama committed, Jack. He's waiting for his toady, AG Barr, to make up something. LOL!

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Trump did no such thing to clear Hillary of any crime. He was being kind and generous to say we should move on...

      She and the corrupt FBI officials like Comey and Strozk and Page that cleared her are the real problem. We need to drain the swamp from DC.

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      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      TDS - Trump Demogogue Syndrome. The idea that what conspiracies Trump comes up with, you believe they are true. Even his own administration cleared Hillary of any criminality, and yet, you claim there is 'overwhelming' evidence. That is definitely TDS.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      JOC, what evidence will suffice? It is like Trump said, he could be standing on 5th Ave and shot someone and people will say he is innocent.

      We are seeing exactly the same condition with the Democrats. There is overwhelming evidence against Hillary and Obama and his whole corrupt team. You will exonerate him because you are afflicted with TDS. Sad...

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      JOC 

      11 months ago from Syracuse, NY

      Another right-wing conspiracy article Jack stole to pawn off as his own thoughts. Let us know when you find Obama's birth certificate or you guys finally getting around to finding anything criminal in Hillary's e-mails. Fake scandals is all you cling to for reasons to elect your candidates. It's pretty sad.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Howard, that may be true but there is a right way to remove a president and a wrong way. The right way is at election time. We have a great system that survived many "bad" presidents...Jimmy Carter was a prime recent example.

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      Greg Schweizer 

      11 months ago from Corona, California.

      Howard, the reason the so-called Obama investigation was kept quiet was because ALL they found crooked were democrats. Your another one with blinders and rose colored glasses on.

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      Howard Schneider 

      11 months ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Jack, You cannot see President Trump for what he clearly is and he will eventually bite you and all of us in the ass and worse.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Howard, You don't know the rule of law if it bites you in the ass. What Obama did was treason. He knows it, Susan Rice knows it and they have incriminated themselves with the newly released email she sent to herself, trying to CYA.

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      Howard Schneider 

      11 months ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      Yes, I would. They followed the law and investigated probable illegalities. President Obama should have gone further but he has too much respect for our elections and our history. President Trump has no such respect. He has total disdain for anything in our government and political system that does not directly serve his personal interests.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Howard, Would you be OK with repeating what Obama and his administration officials did next time around?

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      Howard Schneider 

      11 months ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      The Obama Administration investigated criminal activity. Still Obama kept the investigation and its findings from the public to preserve election integrity. You sir are part of the Trump sycophants who refuse to see anything wrong with Trump. He never is truthful and all of his actions are taken to benefit himself and not the American people.

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      Jack Lee 

      11 months ago from Yorktown NY

      Howard, I am shocked. You read my article and came away with your insane conclusion. You my friend are part of the problem. I must revise my piece to include a new category. People like you who are inflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome. You have lost all sense of balance. Why is it that you think Trump is the problem when all indicators are the Obama administration created this scam on the American people?

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      Howard Schneider 

      11 months ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

      You are right, Jack. The corruption that has gone on for the past 4 years should never happen again. That is why President Trump must be defeated in November. He is probably the greatest threat to our democracy at least in recent times. He would be in jail if he was not the President. I agree that these things should not be politicized but this man does not believe in the rule of law. I agreed with President Ford pardoning President Nixon. In this case, if crimes are proven, President Trump should go to jail after his presidency. No pardon.

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      Jim Henderson 

      11 months ago from Hattiesburg, Mississippi

      Thank you. Very concise and well-written. I appreciate how you articulated your points without resorting to emotional theatrics so prevalent in political commentary today.

      I agree with your points. Well said. No elected person, regardless of party, should ever have to go through this.

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      Jim Henderson 

      11 months ago from Hattiesburg, Mississippi

      Thank you. Concise and well-written. I couldnt agree more.

      Persons should be held accountable; there can be no rule of law when a double-standard is applied.

      No elected person, regardless of party, should ever have to go through anything like this.

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