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Where Does Our Potential For Violence Originate?

Updated on December 5, 2013

Infantile Emotional States

© 2008 VVeasey Publishing


Where does this desire in humans for brutality, violence, to maim and hurt each another originate?

In our infantile emotional states.

By infantile emotional states. I mean the basic, self-protecting survival instincts. we share with animals.The predatory, "dog eat dog" instincts that keep us alive.We’re all born, little potential, infantile sociopaths.(I know that may be shocking to some of you, but it’s true.)

But, It’s not pathological and normal, for the stages of infancy and early childhood development, before we go through the process of socialization, by other humans, who've been through the process of socialization.

When you were born, you had no idea of right and wrong, good or bad, no idea of morality.

You didn’t know anything. You were taught your name, ethnicity, race, religion, nationality, personality and everything else, you now take for granted as being associated with you. Biologically, we’re all born human, but socially, were animals, until we are socialized by other humans, who’ve been through that process. Up until that point, we’re on the same social level as chimps.

Learning To Speak

When we learn to speak, understand and use language, we start to separate ourselves from chimps and other animals. Speaking, provides us with a way of expressing, articulating and objectifying our feelings, and a way of controlling them. It provides us with a method of objectively reasoning about, and comprehending concepts, like law, individual rights, and ownership, which before, we had no conceptual way of understanding.

When we were infants, anything that touched our hands, we’d immediately grasped. At two or three years old, if we wanted a toy that some kid had, We would immediately try to take it from him! If our efforts were resisted, we may have hit the kid, or even bopped him over the head, with the very toy, we were trying to take from him.

We had to be taught that, “no you can’t have little Johnny’s toy, it’s his toy not your toy”. We probably screamed bloody murder, if we didn't get his toy.

We had to be taught to respect others, as well as what belonged to them. It took a long process of social learning and development, to get to that point, and some of us still haven’t gotten there.

So when you read or hear about, some sociopathic adult, committing horrendous acts of violence, remember, the roots of it started in their infantile emotional states, and that those states are still alive, active and overpowering them, as adults.

Can you imagine, a dictator, with access to weapons of mass destruction, who’s motivated by infantile emotional states! Humanity, has suffered at the hands of individuals of this type, throughout history.

Individuals or groups who display infantile emotional states, are always a potential danger, to all of us, because with them, as with animals, might is right. And Be damn the rights of others.

Ironically, If you’ve been the victim of brutality, you may exhibit sociopathic tendencies and behavior yourself.

You may become so fixated, on your own suffering and feelings of "justifiable anger", that you feel minimal or no sympathy, for the suffering of others, and may even take out your anger, on those, who have nothing to do with, your “suffering” (Going postal).

When your mind becomes so carried away by emotion that it affects your perception of reality and ability to judge correctly.

You’re in an infantile emotional state, and a state of emotional possession.

This is characteristic behavior for those who are controlled by infantile emotional states.

Infantile emotional states are impulsive, unstable, changeable, and hostile (especially when frustrated) and demand instant gratification.

As long as there are adults who are dominated by their infantile emotional states.

Is how long there will be adults and societies of adults, carrying out acts of brutality against themselves and the rest of us.

So where does our seemingly human need to brutalize, to hurt and maim each other come from?

From the dog eat dog, infantile survival instincts, we share with the animals, that we haven't outgrown, that are still affecting us as humans.

Well you've heard my 2 cents worth, now let’s hear yours?


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      The Medicine Man 5 years ago from Detroit,MI


      I'm not sure of what you're talking about

      what do I have wrong? and what spin are you talking about?

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      Eric 5 years ago

      You have it completely reversed. The GOP fights against gun control so decent law abiding citizens can arm and protect themselves against the rape, robbery, and murders commited by these types of criminals and thugs. You are aware that these types of criminals don't care what the gun laws are or how many there are? They can easily get guns on the illegal black market and no amount gun laws or regulations will control that. Crime statistics are widespread that confirm this. Liberal democrats like those in Chicago fight tooth and nail against law abiding citizens being able to conceal carry handguns w/license to protect themselves from these animals. With that being said, you post is completely misinformed and completely factually incorrect. Your spin has failed.

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      The Medicine Man 5 years ago from Detroit,MI


      as I said those are generalizations, they're not broken down by class, income, or education.

      "Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa."

      This just says they are more likely to commit hate crimes not that they will.

      This data is biased because the number for how likely whites are to commit hate crimes against blacks is not given

      Same goes for all of the more likely to commit statistics.

      Do you think these statistics are talking about middle class, upper class and rich black people?

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      Reid 5 years ago

      Crime Rates

      •Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

      •When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

      •Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

      •The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

      Interracial Crime

      •Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

      •Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

      •Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

      •Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.


      •Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.

      •Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.


      •Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.

      •Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely

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      theupside 5 years ago

      Reid: There are lies, there are damn lies. ..Then there are statistics.

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      The Medicine Man 5 years ago from Detroit,MI


      the real dumb and racist thing you said was that "African Americans are the most violent in our country since they are more closely related to our ancestors".

      More closely related to our ancestors?

      What the hell does that mean?

      Just saying blacks or whites is generalizing and is not specific

      One study showing that blacks in some city were committing more crimes, compared a low income, gang infested, high unemployment area, to a white middle class area, so obviously there would be big difference in the crime rates between those two areas.

      There would also be a big difference between that low income gang infested area and a black middle class area

      According to the FBI

      86% of white victims were killed by whites

      94% of black victims were killed by blacks

      So whites mainly kill whites

      Blacks mainly kill blacks

      So that 1/8 as violent comment you present is still killing a lot of white people

      So saying “ Society is not so safe anymore.” is not just because of black people.

      When was society ever safe?

      You have white guys shooting up workplaces then killing themselves, killing their families then killing themselves, killing innocent people at the Sikh temple, killing innocent people at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado.

      The majority of the mass murderers and serial killers have been white.

      So that 1/8 as violent comment you present is still killing a lot of white people

      All of this along with the fact that you use, Mulattoes , a word from the slavery and Jim Crow days,

      Is why I say your comments are dumb, and your mind is stuck in the past and racist

      I don't mean to be insulting but that's how I see it

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      Reid 5 years ago

      Presently, White males are 1/8 as violent as Black males. You are pretty safe around them. The mulattos that were just bred are now 4 times as violent as your average White guy. Society is not so safe anymore.

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      The Medicine Man 5 years ago from Detroit,MI

      what numbers?

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      Reid 5 years ago

      Maybe you're dumb. The numbers don't lie.

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      The Medicine Man 5 years ago from Detroit,MI


      that's a dumb comment

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      Reid 5 years ago


      Good point about people being traditionally hunters and gatherers and not accustomed to living in large societies. This would also explain why African Americans are the most violent in our country since they are more closely related to our ancestors.

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      The Medicine Man 5 years ago from Detroit,MI


      You're right sociopathic behavior is “the survival mechanisms at work in the child.

      That's why that behavior and motivating force is not seen as sociopathic in children and animals.

      You say “Of course there are many people who can adapt to this stressful lifestyle of modern etiquette, and some who will can't. It doesn't make them animals or less human,”

      You're right again, we're all genetically human, but not socially human, because we're controlled more by our survival instincts (animal instincts) as infants and children.

      To be more than just genetically human, we have to become civilized humans (socially human), living in a civilization (society of humans), living by rules, regulations and laws, that seek to curtail the instinctive violence, that a predator acts out against its prey.

      Or the strong against those who are the weaker members of society. Or against the weaker members banding together to take what the stronger members of society have.

      It's one way of trying to keep down violence between people so everyone can enjoy the fruits of living in a group that benefits all of it's members

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      theupside 5 years ago

      This is interesting. I'll give it go. How about people are not innately wired to be accustomed to living with lots of other people. Like the comment above me stated, hunters and gatherers which biologically we still are, are not made to live in large societies. This sociopath behavior as you call it is merely the survival mechanisms at work in the child. The 'aggression' would be very GOOD signs to a tribe. Defining right and wrong today is a lot harder to do today..Too many variables now. Of course there are many people who can adapt to this stressful lifestyle of modern etiquette, and some who will can't. It doesn't make them animals or less human, its just that the definition of human has changed drastically to what is now just socially acceptable behavior in a short amount of time. There is going to be some ''fall out'' if you can even define it as such.

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      The Medicine Man 5 years ago from Detroit,MI

      Dr Billy Kidd

      thanks for the Freud compliment....I think.

      I think we do have some common ground

      I'm definitely not Freud, he was too hung-up on sexual motivation.

      I see motivation more holistically.

      I don't think "always winning" always creates narcissistic personalities...but it definitely can in some circumstances. (We all start off in in narcissistic like states in infancy)

      I think it''s "natural" or instinctive to expect a repeat of a successful action, because the unconscious or conscious memory of original action, is triggered when you think about repeating it or if you're actually doing it again

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      Dr Billy Kidd 5 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      You sound like Freud!

      I have a complementary theory (they both can work together). It's that for 6 million years( since the line of homo separated from the chimpanze), no group of people and no individual knew great success or han anything that could be called great wealth. Daily, it was a hand-to-mouth world.

      Therefore, people are not biologically wired to handle great success. This is why when someone gets a big win, they feel infalable. So they bet everything on the changes they can do it again. This holds except where there are family or community values that teach people how to hold the line on their success (Obivious, no one talked to Donald Trump or Hitler about these things).

      So the first big easy win can make people expect another easy win. When they don't get it, they can turn to being asocial, then anti-social, and then pure sociopaths. The expectantcy of always winning creates narcissistic personalities, where people see themselves as the center of the universe. (Lots of politicians fit into this category).

      As a shrink (to get back to infantilsim), I've identified that maybe half the people seeking treatment stopped maturing between the years 10 and 18. Often clients can actually identify the year because that's the behavior they want to return to rather than acting according to what is normal for their age.

      But yes, there certainly is another group who start doing ant-social stuff when they are kids. They're the one's who put the frog in the microway or who kill the cat. Interestingly, they often have parents who simply ignore the behvior. So, I'm not really sure it's genetic but rather a mire ape-ing of the parents' I-don't-give-a-crap attitude.

      Anyhow, all this stuff seem to fit together, as far as I can see. What say?

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      JThomp42 5 years ago

      Very intriguing.


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