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Whose morality?

Updated on February 5, 2010
Vanessa Perroncel
Vanessa Perroncel
This ones number eleven!
This ones number eleven!
John Terry - Chelsea player...
John Terry - Chelsea player...
England Captain...
England Captain...
Married to Toni Terry....who is gorgeous in her own right!
Married to Toni Terry....who is gorgeous in her own right!
Secret lover of Vanessa Perroncel, wife of footballer Wayne Bridge...
Secret lover of Vanessa Perroncel, wife of footballer Wayne Bridge...

One of the biggest mistakes any believer makes is to imagine that it is their right and obligation to enforce on a secular world the morality code that their religion supports and that they agree to be governed by.

We do not have that right, and it's not an obligation.

Secular society makes it's own rules, that's why it's secular.

They may look to 'us' in times of strife and when things have gone drastically wrong.

They will blame 'our God' when disaster strikes and they are left devastated and not sure what to do or why 'it' happened.

But we live in different kingdoms and we belong to different masters and we cannot ever hope to mix with 'them', nor them with 'us'.

My bible tells me:

John 12:45-47

And whoever sees Me sees Him Who sent Me.

I have come as a Light into the world, so that whoever believes in Me [whoever cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me] may not continue to live in darkness.

So we cannot 'cleave' to those who live in the dark, but equally, we cannot judge them either, for the next verse reads....

If anyone hears My teachings and fails to observe them [does not keep them, but disregards them], it is not I who judges him. For I have not come to judge and to condemn and to pass sentence and to inflict penalty on the world, but to save the world.

So it was no surprise to me when the Captain of the English Football team was discovered and exposed as a 'bounder and a cad' when he tried to get a court injunction, stopping the reportage of his sexual liaison with a team mates 'wag' (wife), who then got pregnant, and who he paid a sum of money to, so she would abort the child.... and keep quiet, so that his wife did not find out about his infidelity.

Now the man in question is a good looking guy, and as you would expect for the Captain of England, virile and highly masculine.

It is no surprise that he manages to have his 'wicked way' with random women who are attracted by his power and wealth (his football team pay him over $200,000 per week) and I would imagine that if any red blooded man who was not in faith would equally do 'the business' with the woman in question.

In fact a few red blooded men of faith would probably succumb to her charms.

In reality it seems that five other team mates also did just that.....

Enter stage right.....

Max Clifford, Master celebrity publicist, probably the best there is in the world, and Fabio Capello, England manager, devout Catholic and family man.

Between them they will shape history, at least for John Terry and the rest of those involved.

Max Clifford is representing Vanessa, who looks set to be the winner (at least financially) from this debacle.

Fabio Capello has to make the decision to keep Terry as Captain of England, or dismiss him in 'disgrace' for being a bad role model, for bringing the national football squad into his sordid sexual activities and dragging England's 'good name and morals' through the mud.

Max Clifford
Max Clifford
Fabio Capello
Fabio Capello

And that is where we disagree, for in my opinion, the actions of Terry and Cº have perfectly reflected the moral turpitude that England wallows in.

A land where calculated binge drinking produces scantily dressed girls baring as much as possible and luring drunken louts into acts of sexual fornication, later called rape when they sober up.

Neither side remembering the good time they had together.

Welcome to Britain in the twenty first century.

I am beginning to relish the fact that I belong to a prior time and a different morality.

In scripture sexual activity falls into one of two descriptive terms, the first being 'lay with her' and the second being 'knew her'.

Laying with was what we call a quick encounter, a simple word describes it, and it's a word that (in the UK) is used as common currency.

One definition or origen tells us that it is a legal term referring to ' For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge' - which was actually an offence at one point in time.

The simpler version is that it was an Anglo Saxon word.

Whichever version is truth, it's descriptive and succinct, and many people do it as often as possible with whoever they can find to conjoin with them.

But does that make you a bad footballer?

'Knew her' is the married version, the one where the relationship is deeper than a quickie, where the two people actually get to know each other well over a period of years.

I may detest the man's morality (and that's a reformed whores reaction) but in reality what on earth has that to do with his career, in a country where his behaviour accurately reflects the morality of the people?

Do not for one second think I am condoning his actions, despite my own whoredom in times past I cannot declare his actions permissible, for I have 'seen the light' (literally) and 'come out of the darkness' and so I feel not revulsion for him and them, but shame and pity for their being ensnared in a darkness I once shared, and one which they are still living within.

Maybe from this episode they will see some light to follow out of the darkness.


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    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi Antecessor,

      Thanks for visiting, I'm glad we will agree about at least one thing!

      Just been reading you a bit, and I also thank you for some new hub ideas!

      If the secular world and the religious world would agree that they each have no right to interfere with the others lifestyle, we would be in progress.


      BTW who are you preceding?

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      11 years ago from Australia

      "One of the biggest mistakes any believer makes is to imagine that it is their right and obligation to enforce on a secular world the morality code that their religion supports"

      I agree with this statement your article makes.

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      50 Caliber 

      11 years ago from Arizona

      God let man have free will, and so do I. I am a Marine and it was said "Marines, have the highest moral, and the lowest morals, the cleanest bodies and the dirtiest minds of any animal I have encountered on the planet" or something similar in 1944 by Elinore Roosevelt. She was not lying she was just making a pretty exact observation. So I have since mended my ways on this subject, I first stopped doing it and just bragged about it, now I have rebuked myself for it as well as staying clear of it. I remember America spending millions of dollars to try and publicly beheading the country when Little Billy Clinton got caught sharing his Willy. An impeachment and a world wide scandal over a mans private life, wasting so many dollars that could have been better spent. I remember thinking, to risk it all, surely the President could have gotten better looking whores......

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      11 years ago from UK

      At last in Fabio Capello we have a manager who has brought discipline back to the England team. No doubt this is one of the reasons for the easy qualification for the World Cup. No surprise then that Capello recognises that the captain must command respect and be a role model. Nothing against John Terry at all, but I'm pleased Capello has reacted quickly and replaced him as captain.

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      11 years ago from the bridge of sighs

      Agua!you are a "Wholy"man.

      Definitely Not pious but whole to be sure!lol

      You are the first Christian I've met who brings common sense to the table.

      I was "Blessed"as you folks say,to have met you!


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      Hannah Ministries 

      11 years ago

      Very strong point when you say that we can not judge the world by what we have decided to live by! That is so true! I pitty anyone who wants to 'have it all' in live and end up with nothing. Not here and not eternely.Bless you for this great HUB.

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      Allen Werner 

      11 years ago from West Allis

      aguasilver, you are spot on. You said that they perfectly "reflected the moral turpitude that England wallows in." The same could be said of most of the world. He is a player, an extremely talented player (even responding with a goal this past weekend). So many are willing to cast the first stone and not let him play for something that has not got him into any legal trouble, and is a personal issue for his family. A similar rumor just came out here in the States about US Captain John Harkes being dropped from the squad that went to France in '98 for having an affair with another player's wife, Eric Wynalda. Adultery and fornication is pretty common on this side of the pond, and yet this would have supposedly scarred the image of the US Team. I think losing scarred us far worse - nobody else noticed anything else. Sorry to rant. Peace.

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      Micky Dee 

      11 years ago

      That's a strong cup of coffee. Thank you sir. I appreciate you. Great hub.

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      Judah's Daughter 

      11 years ago from Roseville, CA

      Though we are living in the "age of grace" (John 12:47), we must warn about the next verse (John 12:48): "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day."

      I think about Sodom and Gomorrah; lands where the behavior of the day was condoned by the "world" in which they lived. It was LEGAL. However, God's judgment still fell upon them, after delivering His people from them (that's the comforting part).

      I look at Tiger Woods, too ~ he's not a religious leader and knowing the majority of the "world" practices the same thing, why do these "idols" need to exhibit "morality" as though they had some Law? If they acknowledge the Law of God, then they must believe there is a God! Out the door goes their claims that God doesn't exist...etc. etc. etc.

      The greatest hypocrisy is to judge someone when one practices the same things. Because Jesus never sinned, He alone is Worthy to judge and He will...whether mankind says it's OK or not ~ just as with Sodom and Gomorrah.


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