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Why Obama is Wrong for the United States

Updated on May 12, 2016
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Anna is a writer who wears many other hats, and has a wealth of experience that she draws from, sometimes funny, sometimes serious.

Change You Can Believe In, or Change We Should Be Afraid Of?

Let me start out by saying that I see myself as an anti-partisan person. I do not see myself as Republican or Democrat. I agree with the Democrats on several issues, the Republicans on others, and with various independent groups on other issues. I see myself as a fiscal conservative with some liberal social leanings. Take from that what you will. Having said that, I turn to the issues on my mind today.

With the election drawing closer and closer, a lot of attention has been drawn to each candidate as a person. CNN did a story on both Barack Obama and John McCain, detailing the lives of the candidates. I watched both. They were very interesting and did give me an insight on who each candidate is as a person. I want to know as much about both of them as I can.

A lot of attention has been given to who these people surround themselves with and who they associate with. While I don't believe that anyone should be guilty by association, there is something to be said for judging a person based on the types of people they surround themselves with; who they accept help from, and who they go to for guidance and advice.

If you see a person who associates mainly with criminal types, you see them as falling into those same lines. If you see someone who surrounds himself with smart, successful people, that person is seen as more in line with those smart, successful people. All of us knows that one person, you know the one I am talking about, that one friend who hasn't made all the right choices, yet you stand by them, because you are their friend. That isn't what I am talking about. I am talking about if all your friends were like that, more than likely, you would share behaviors and interests with them, and should, rightfully so, be judged, to an extent, on that. Now, I agree, that this is not always 100% accurate, but it is a good judge of how a person sees themselves, or how they want to be seen.

What do you say about a person who surrounds themselves with radicals, criminals and terrorists? Do you see that person as someone you can trust? Or do you see that person as someone who may be dangerous to the United States of America? Welcome to the world of Chicago politics!

Leader of America?
Leader of America?
Obama worship at it's most stupid
Obama worship at it's most stupid

Reverend J. Wright is "Oh So Wrong!"

The Reverend Jeremiah Wright, former pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, and former pastor of Barack Obama, sparked headlines for weeks, after several divisive, ant-American, anti-white and terribly offensive comments surfaced that were made by Rev. Wright.

The man that Barack Obama went to for spiritual advice was spreading hate throughout his church, and yet Obama denied knowing anything about it? Rev. Wright's worst comments came only five days after the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the country. He said,"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye...We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now, we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

He made this comment, and yet Obama never heard anything about it? Come on! Be serious! An African-American church is much more than just a church. It is a social gathering, an entity all it's own. It is far different from the average church, where you show up on Sunday, nod politely to the people you run into, and then go home and go about your lives. It is a close-knit thing. If the comments made by Rev. Wright were out of character for him, Obama would have heard something about it. He claims to have never heard anything along those lines. That is truly hard to believe. If these comments were not out of character for Rev. Wright, then was he a member of this church, and never once attended services? I doubt that, as well.

Later on, after these statements were brought to light, Obama distanced himself from Rev. Wright, and made a fuss of saying that he did not agree with the statements made by Rev. Wright, but how can we believe that he truly feels this in his heart, if he would not even be honest about hearing such statements in the first place?

Reverend Jeremiah Wright is a hate-filled, anti-American radical. And this man had influence on Barack Obama. The title for Barack Obama's book, The Audacity of Hope, came from one of Rev. Wright's sermons. He obviously had an impact and an effect on Barack Obama. The only question is how much?

Obama and Rev. Wright
Obama and Rev. Wright

Rev. Wright

The "Weatherman", Bill Ayers

Some of you are old enough to know who Bill Ayers is, and some of you have no clue who he was. I was in the latter group. I had to look it up. I wasn't even born when his radical terrorist group was blowing up buildings. Bill Ayers started as a member of a group called Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). They were a radical, anti-American group hoping to bring about a classless world, or world communism.

Bill Ayers then joined an off-shoot of the SDS, known as the Weatherman, aka The Weather Underground. This group was even more radical that the SDS. They were violent, domestic terrorists. Though Ayers was never convicted, the Weatherman were responsible for the bombing of the New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, The U.S. Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972. Several quotes by Ayers chill me to the bone.

The first being, "Kill all the rich people...Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents." This man actually told the youth of America that they should kill their parents! He has never showed remorse. He even said, in 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." He does not regret anything he has done, and wishes he had done more? How much would have satisfied him?

Now, while all this is interesting information, you may be asking yourselves, 'what does this have to do with Barack Obama?' A lot, actually. This man has ties to Obama. They served together on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. OK, so what? I am sure there were other people on that board as well.

In the mid-1990s, Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn (also a member of The Weather Underground), hosted meetings at their Chicago home in order to introduce Barack Obama to their neighbors during Obama's first run for Illinois Senate. Obama has said that Ayers is a respectable, upstanding man. How can you respect someone who still has immense hatred for the country you want to lead? How can you respect someone who has never apologized for setting bombs, and even said he wishes they they had done more? Doesn't that seem a little wrong?

In Ayer's 2001 book, Fugitive Days, Ayers talked of his time with the Weatherman and his continued hatred for the United States. Barack Obama received funding for his Senate campaign from Ayers. He received campaign funding from a terrorist!

One quote from Ayers seems eerily similar to statements made by Barack Obama. It says, "Even though we think of ourselves as political, we weren't politicians. We were people who had a moral vision of what was possible. And when we talk, for example, about health care, about peace, we're talking a language of ethics, not a language of instrumentalism or opportunism, or what we might get. So we have to speak in a language that's large and generous and encompassing. And then we have to act." What else will we learn in the days to come? I can only imagine.

Bill Ayers Chicago Mugshot Photo
Bill Ayers Chicago Mugshot Photo
Prefessor William Ayers today
Prefessor William Ayers today

Tony Rezko and the Question of Corruption

In Illinois, much attention lately has been brought to the issues of corruption in the state government. Tony Rezko's name has been in the news almost non-stop. His ties to Obama have been brought up, but that seems to be ignored on the national level. I don't think it should be. Some have said that this really isn't an issue. I don't see it that way. Corruption is always a valid issue, and always should be.

Tony Rezko is a convicted felon, and he is also one of Obama's first major financial contributors. Rezko was indicted on federal charges of wire and mail fraud, money laundering, and aiding and abetting bribery. He was found guilty of 16 of the 24 charges brought against him. He was convicted of corruption charges involving him trading in on his influence as a top advisor and fundraiser for IL Governor, Rod Blagojevich.

Issues as to the deal Obama got in the purchase of his million dollar mansion have been raised. Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price for his mansion, while the wife of Tony Rezko paid full price for the vacant lot right next door. The seller of the mansion owned both the mansion and the vacant lot adjacent to it, and wanted to sell them both at the same time. In order to help Barack Obama out, Rezko's wife purchased the adjacent lot on the same day that Barack Obama purchased the mansion, which has four fireplaces and a wine cellar.

A short time later, the Obamas purchased a 10-foot by 150-foot piece of that adjacent lot for $104,500, even though it was only valued at $40,500! Other questions have been raised about government favors given to Rezko in connection with the help that Rezko offered to Obama. But the truth remains, the taint of corruption has touched Barack Obama, and I hardly believe that he had no knowledge of what Rezko was doing. Rezko used his influence and association with powerful people to attempt to get away with very serious crimes, and it is hard to believe that those who benefitted from that, including Barack Obama, and Rod Blagojevich, had no knowledge of this.

Tony Rezko
Tony Rezko

Rezko, Blago and the connection to Obama

A Scary Future

I shudder to think what the world will be like if Barack Obama is elected President. He has shown, to me at least, to be very un-American. I see him as weak, inexperienced and a danger to this country. We are Americans, and on whole, we are proud of that.

Look at the Olympics. We are winning medals left and right. We like to win, we like to be #1! I don't feel that Barack Obama stands for that. I feel that if he were to be elected president, we would lose further ground on a global level. That leaves us weak to attack and even more dependant on other countries. We need to be reminded that we are #1, and that we are a super-power. We need to focus on what makes us great, instead of pandering to everyone else.

I am really glad that Germany loves Barack Obama, big deal. They love "The Hoff", too. Not a really great endorsement. I want a President that has the interests of this country at heart, not the interests of everyone else. We need to re-assert our dominance. Especially with all the current issues in the world right now, from Russia's invasion of Georgia, to North Korea and Iran's advancing nuclear programs. We need a leader who will stand strong against those that threaten us. With everything I see, I don't see that person as being Barack Obama.

You may not agree with me; that's fine. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I am just voicing my opinion. I am exercising my right to freedom of speech. I don't care if I offend you. I have that right. Just as Reverend Wright has the right to say hateful things about this country. Do I agree with him? Obviously not. Do I think his influence on Obama is a good thing? NO WAY! But, I never said he wasn't entitled to his opinions. Just as I am entitled to mine. I am sure some people reading this will send me angry messages. That's fine. Tell me how you feel.

Years Later

I look back at this and see how right I was. I said Obama was weak, inexperienced and UN-American. I hate that I was right. I wish I had been wrong, but I see now, that I was right all along. I am working on a follow up to this, and I will provide a link to it here. I hope that we can correct all the damage he has done to this country.

© 2008 Anna Marie Bowman

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      poetryman6969 2 years ago

      After Giuliani said that Obama does not love America my thinking was Obama hopes you will change because he does not like you.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 5 years ago from Florida

      RavenBiker-- I am closer to a Libertarian, myself, though I don't really feel I fall into any specific party. And being a Libertarian, I would think Obama's push for even bigger government would be a very big reason to not vote for him. Don't most Libertarians support limited government involvement in the people's private lives? Obama's policies go against that in every way; more government control, more regulation, more government. I do agree with you that both candidates lack in certain areas, but in my mind, we need a president who is going to focus more on the issues of job growth and fiscal responsibility, and Obama has proven that he doesn't care about either of those.

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      RavenBiker 5 years ago from Pittsburgh, PA.

      I found this hub interesting but, unfortunately, never concluded much in substance.

      I did not vote for Mr. Obama because on the surface, at the time, I agreed with you. But as for "Four Years Later", your conclusions were further unmet. Other than your objection to Mr. Obama's "influences", you haven't proven anything.

      My distrust for Mr. Obama, and the Republican hopefull, Mr. Romeny, is steeped in them not addressing, in my view, three important issues:

      1. Foreign Policy

      2. Monetary Policy (not to be confused with the Budget Policy)

      3. And an appropriate Domestic Policy that addresses infrastruture.

      The Libertarian that I am, I have found Mr. Obama's administration rather centrist----quite opposite of the "boogey man" nature or the things you had brought up in your hub. Mr. Romeny is a Fake. I'm voting for Obama if a Libertarian canidate is not offered at my polling station.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 6 years ago from Florida

      Thomas-- With Trump potentially gearing up for a run as president, the issue of Obama's birth certificate has resurfaced. People nominated for the office of President are vetted and all areas of their life are thoroughly scoured for anything that could be used against them. I don't think they would miss something like that.

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      Thomas1957 6 years ago

      Hello Ms. Bowman,

      Truth is the utmost necessity during this very great calamity; and, these matters of Kenyan birth and Indonesian citizenship shall become the crux of Obama's downfall along with every puppetry he portrays while misrepresenting Americans!

      It has been 'Communism' which has hidden his actual Kenyan birthplace and it has been 'Islam' which has hidden his actual Indonesian citizenship.

      You can see his actual birth certificate online since October 2010:

      Go to www.wasobamaborninkenya.com

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      Anna Marie Bowman 7 years ago from Florida

      tom-- I am working on a follow-up to this hub. Taking a line from Ben Quayle. "The Worst President in History". Shaping up to be a good article.

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      tom hellert 7 years ago from home

      AMB,

      Your next hub should be

      Dear Liberal DREGS - I TOLD YOU OBAMA WAS A WASTE ANS A RADICAL ISLAMIST< USELESS INEXPERIENCE IDIOLOG_

      ....

      But Some of the Kool Aide drinkers here wont hear or think he is doing anything wrong... No matter how big a dunce obama and Biden turn out to be- You will still et the bluebelly liberals that will try to knock you down.... Obama scandel after scandel, incident after incident, gaff after gaff, anti american position after anti american position-

      He already after 18 months is possibly thre most far left and therefore THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER...EVER CARTER HAS GOT TO BE HAPPY HE JUST GOT PASSED - GOING the wrong way by OBAMA- who should not even be president- if he has proof- whyt not show it and shut us all up...

      OH I know because he CAN'T

      THIS WAS A GREAT GREAT HUB

      TH

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      Anna Marie Bowman 7 years ago from Florida

      Kendall-- Over the course of the past year and a half, I have seen so much that scares and upsets me. I see that I have so much more work to do on this hub with all the new information that has come to light.

      jman00001-- I agree. I plan on updating this hub soon, to include all the recent information, from what you have mentioned, to other issues, like the voter intimidation scandal involving the New Black Panther Party, and issues with Blago, and so much more.

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      jman00001 7 years ago from Texas

      Especially looking at it now a year after the election of Obama.

      After 10%+ unemployment (which is expected to continue throughout most if not all 2010), ACORN scandals, extended and expended government bailouts, surprise executive order increasing diplomatic immunity to Interpol, the upcoming Obama/Pelosi healthcare that may well cost every working American family over $10,000/ yr in extra taxes...

      Many things to review and maybe shudder about...

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      Kendall H. 7 years ago from Northern CA

      Anna Marie, thank you for writing this hub so long ago. I'm sorry that I couldn't have read it when it was first published. In addition to all your comments about Obama I wanted to add that he seems to be living in a dream world. All countries communicating agreeably sounds nice but it isn't realistic. Bearing a grudge for generations isn't healthy but I've met a few Albanians who still abhor Turks due to the death march of 1914. These kind of issues with many other countries make it difficult to believe that all countries can unite. Every action speaks of Obama from hugging the Queen of England to bowing before the Emperor of Japan shows his either reluctance or ignorance of protocol, tradition, and sensitivity to issues. Since Veteran's day last wednesday I've wondered how the Veteran's of WWII, Korea, and Vietnam feel about this. Thank you again for the great hub!!

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Carlos-- Why, thank you!!! On both counts!!

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      Carlos Donoso Kronfle 8 years ago

      Anna Marie, may I just say that besides smart you are beautiful.

      Ok, carry on ...

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      bernie-- Thank you so very much!!!

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      bernie1936 8 years ago

      Anna Marie Bowman!

      You are quite a lady! Keep writing! You are inspiring me!

      Thanks.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Sarah-- Truth of the matter is, Obama has already made some serious mistakes and taken some dangerous chances. I don't claim to like McCain. Not a big fan of his, either.

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      Sarah 8 years ago

      Stupid and sooo not true obama rocks!!!! Mccain is bad!!!

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      eovery-- I just needed to write about how I felt, and I still feel this way. I think he's driving the country into the ground. It was an interesting, and sometimes exhausting debate!! I think I might right a follow-up, about how I still feel the way I do.

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      eovery 8 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

      You were brave with this one.

      And I missed it all, darn.

      Keep on hubbing!

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      issues veritas 8 years ago

      AMB -- back at you.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      I didn't think you were critcizing me, I just felt that a little clarification was in order. Thank you for your pithy comments!! I enjoy reading them!!

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      issues veritas 8 years ago

      AMB,

      I wasn't criticizing deleting comments and I agree with your standards on your hub.

      I haven't experienced the spammers yet, so I might have to rethink my policy.

      I agree also on the empty promises and politicians. Is it possible that the root of the word 'Politician" means empty promise?

      I think that everyone now is just waiting for their check from Obama and if they get the check then Obama is OK with them.

       

      Biden surprised me by how easily Obama house trained him. Hie is a good little dog. Cheap joke, sorry but he has been extremely quiet.

       

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      issues--  Thank you for stopping by!!!  This Hub doesn't get all that many comments anymore!  Don't forget his VP!!  He didn't have much confidence in Obama's skills in running the country, either.  So far, I am less than impressed.  More empty promises from a good-for-nothing politician. 

      As for deleting comments...I only deleted spam comments, comments that showed up several times in a row, and one comment from someone who made a very inapropriate and rude comment about another Hubber. I thought it was in very poor taste, and I didn't want it on my Hub. It's my right to do so. I have not, however, deleted any comments by people who disagree with me, though I know, there are some who do.

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      issues veritas 8 years ago

      AMB.

      I don't delete any comments to my hubs because I think the bad comments reflect on the author of those comments.

      There will always be bad comments.

      I share your viewpoint and I am happy that after six months your hub can still be discussed.

      There is a reason why we call them terrorists. A hundred men, women and children killed or wounded by a bomber. The target of the bomber were civilians and there was no world wide outrage from the incident. There was only a body count. Yet, when there is a water boarding story the whole world is outraged, Is there really a comparison between detention, water boarding and blowing up civilians as a primary target?

      Whether you liked George W. Bush or not and whether it was a coincidence that we had no further attacks since 911, the country was safe. Now it is Obama's turn to protect us. Remember, his current Secretary of State didn't think he could make the necessary decisions as President to keep the country safe.

      Thanks

       

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Thank you, ProfoundPuns! I did have to deal with a lot of negative comments. I only deleted the ones that were really terrible, or that attacked other hubbers. Some were pretty bad. I even got one where someone compared me to a monkey, flinging feces.

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      ProfoundPuns 8 years ago from Maryland, USA

      In reading the string of comments (which turned to skimming, as there were so many!), I have to say, that whether someone agrees with your views on political issues or not, you have a very respectful way of debating, and not taking the low road of insulting your dissenters despite the insults you receive.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Thank you! I know a lot of people don't share my opinion, but I think some of them are starting to have second thoughts.

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      imadork 8 years ago from St. Peters, MO

      Too bad the rest of the country doesn't share your opinion. I myself, agree with you.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Well, Obama is now President, and I guess we will have to wait and see. I am personally a little scared. If Chicago politics follows him to the White House, it isn't going to be good. I do hope for the best, though. After all, I live here. I hope he does well, if only for the sake of other Americans like myself.

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Just wait. Come back in 4 years and talk to me then.

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      wonderkatt 8 years ago from Albuquerque

      Well the election is over and the American people didn't believe your lies or the lies of people of your ilk.

      We will soon have a new president and I'm pretty sure that Bush and Cheney will, after the inauguration, turn into bats and fly away!

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Anna, I'm getting the same thing from wonderkatt on my hubs. He's apparently going through hubpages looking for people who didn't support Obama and saying the same things to them all. Very mature huh?

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      wonderkatt--I approved your childish comment. To suggest that just because the person I was supporting did not win, and a person I did not want to win did, that I should hop on the next plane out of the country is stupid. Thank you for your concern for my well being. I am fully capable of taking care of myself, and fully intend to stay right here. I am, however, preparing myself for what is to come.

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      wonderkatt 8 years ago from Albuquerque

      Welll Obama WON! and at the same time they are having discount air tickets out of the country. Does that suggest any thing to you losers?

      peace out

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      wonderkatt 8 years ago from Albuquerque

      Hye Pac,

      Obama isn't even in office yet so how can he control the press? And talk about the kettle calling the pot black Sarah palin has never given an open public press conference. She has never even been on Face the Nation or Meet the Press or even on Fox(Faux?) News . She only does press with toadies like Hannity.

      The McCain people also stopped interviews with CNN when Campbell Brown asked the wrong question about sarah.

       

      You guys really need to get over yourselves.

      "Times they are a changing"

      Peace OUt!

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      wonderkatt-- You said Obama is going to win, and that we all "need to get in line."  ???  Get used to it or get out???  I wish it were that easy.  My favorite quote goes something like this...The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.  I think I will stick around, thank you very much!  No, I am not saying that Obama is personally evil, I do, however think that his policies will bring about a great deal of problems for this country, and I would rather be here, and try to do the best I can to make even a small part of this world better.

      allshookup--I agree.  How can you attend church for 20 years and never hear what your pastor, preacher, said??  It's unthinkable, and for Obama to say that, rather than admit to the truth, and expect people to believe it, is just insane.  Talk about too much pride.  The man refuses to ever admit when he is wrong. 

      Chones--Thanks for the link!  Much appreciated.

      pacwriter--  The media does give Obama and Biden a pass on everything, and any network that actually tries to ask hard questions, gets blocked.  I guess the best way to avoid bad press is to control the media, and choose who you get to talk to. 

      Ralph-- Thank your for the link. It was an interesting read.

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      A liberal's view of Obama--just another Bush!

      http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081110/cockburn

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      wonderkatt 8 years ago from Albuquerque

      Pac- No Bush deserves all the hatred he has aquired.

      And its not that nothing sticks to Obama its just that you guys look like monkeys flinging your feces and making a lot of noise.

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Chones, thanks for the compliment and for the link!

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      I'm not calling it down, it's the people who vote for Obama that's doing that. I asked for mercy, although, if he is elected, we don't deserve it.

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      pacwriter 8 years ago from North Carolina

      It still comes down to the fact the DEMS hate Bush so much they will take anybody that can win no matter their beliefs or policies. That is why the media gives Obama and Biden a pass on everything. And like the man said, &quot;the networks and news outlets do not want to upset their 'cash cow'&quot;.

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      wonderkatt 8 years ago from Albuquerque

      Hey allshook are you calling down the rath of god on us if we vote for Obama? Not very christian or American of you. Its OK, I'm sure god has caller ID and he isn't taking any suggestions from the likes of you.

      You an balls(chonies?) make me laugh. I guess you never, ever thought of the race of Obama. LOL and Mccain has a rev. probl;em too. One who hates Iseral and the US.

      Palin has a witchdoctor and I think both of them hang out with Oli North and G. Gordon Liddy to very well know home grown terrorist .

      Peace OUt

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      Chones 8 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      Very well put, allshookup-  I couldn't have put it better myself!

      Speaking of Obama's associations- Has everyone read this article?

      http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/o...

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Wow, should I feel special because I got called out? I have no doubt that Obama can very well win. And I feel that the United States will be greatly punished because of it. I'm just grateful that it won't be on my conscience when it happens. He will take us down a long, hard solicalistic path where people who voted for him will wish they could take back their votes. Only to realize they were wrong in supoprting him, then it will be too late. Also, you cannot sit under a preacher for 20 years and not know where he stands on important issues like what he said in those sermons. If he sat under him and didn't know that, then he certainly is bad VERY bad judge of character and has no business in the White House. I mean, how slow can he be??? And you just brought up the race issue. I thought color wasn't an issue. But, if you notice, it's Obama's side that keeps bringin up race, not the other sides. Hmmm.....go figure.

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      wonderkatt 8 years ago from Albuquerque

      Do you have any proof that ObAama heard that sermon that the good rev. preached on that day after 9/11? or did you just pull that out your butt?

      The Rev. Wright has preached many sermons not all had to do with 9/11 or race.

      Its time you guys got into line cause Barak is going to win and you and allshookup and the rest of your ilk will just have to get use to it or get out!

      And remember &quot;once you go black you can never go back&quot; Ha Ha Ha.!

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      DK5 8 years ago

      good Morning Ralph. McCain is 71, two years younger than you.You seem to be doing ok, a little eratic, but  I dont think you are ready for  Depends?  And yes, I think after watching the video of Bidens reaction to some  tough Questions , comparing that to how Sarah Palin has reacted to the obvious assualt on her by the media,She is by far the better Candidate. 

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      commonsense 8 years ago

      i'm laying 10-1 on obama...any takers?

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      You think Palin is presidential? McCain is the one who could easily croak before the end of his term. His mother is in her nineties, but his father and grandfather died in their early 70s. McCain is living on borrowed time. And he's more than a little forgetful.

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      DK5 8 years ago

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      DK5 8 years ago

      He(Biden) is a heartbeat from the presidency.He doesn't seem very presidential. Is there a posted list of what questions we can ask the chosen one? The Obama Campaign is cutting off the network. 

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      That is the absolutely dumbest interviewer I've ever seen. Biden was right in wondering who was writing the interviewer's question. I can't believe that very many people wiill fall for such bullshit.

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      DK5 8 years ago

      Joe Biden was asked today about Obama's  ties to ACORN. The Obama camp has just cut this network off from all interviews. Finally some tough questions were asked.  We would all like to know more about ACORN but how dare anyone ask the Obama camp. This is truly unbelievable,you have got to see this.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

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      Chones 8 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      What's the consensus on this article, in regards to yet another &quot;association&quot; Obama has?

      http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/o...

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      DK5 8 years ago

      Good morning Ralph. I am not so sure you really want to know more about ACORN and if I were to do the research for you I am pretty sure it would be dismissed.

      Smarticus, I hope you are right.

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      Smarticus 8 years ago from North Carolina

      DK5- I agree that ACORN bears closer scrutiny on some of its activies. However, I think that many people are greatly overestimating their influence on Senator Obama.

      Ralph Deeds- Thanks for the kudos, man.

      I also forgot to mention you can find a good source for analysis of the two different candidates at the non-partisan www.politifacts.com site.

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      My impression is that the number of instances of voter regulation irregularities or fraud have been greatly exaggerated and that ACORN takes steps to correct any that come to its attention. Moreover, false or fraudulent voter registrations, as has been pointed out by objective observers, does not usually result in voter fraud.

      DK5 I would be interested in knowing the specifics of what is "more to be concerned with' about ACORN. Also, ACORN is not the only source of voter registration irregularities. Republicans in several states have apparently engaged in various voter suppression activities and illegal purging of the voter rolls. Moreover, many states are using touch screen voting machines which do not permit auditing the ballots.

      Smarticus, great comment!

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      DK5 8 years ago

      There is more to be concerned with when it comes to ACORN than Voter fraud, which is a serious crime. Obama and ACORN have deeper ties than just an organization in his nieghborhood. The Huffington post is probably not where one should be looking for information on ACORN.

      Lift your face towards the sun - then you will not see the shadows. Helen Keller.

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      Smarticus 8 years ago from North Carolina

      Anne Marie- I admire your wilingness to post your opinions, and your writing skills evident in this hub. I do not, however, agree with a lot of what you say.

      I would like to point out that Senator Obama voting present on the bill you cited earlier is most certainly not the same as voting no. Present signifies no stance taken. You also did not mention that the senate had attached an amendment to that bill that would have allowed major corporations to receive &quot;envionmental remediation tax credits&quot; credit for cleaning up the environment, even if they did not actually qualify to receive the tax credits under the guidelines of the program. This measure was a piece of pork barrel spending intended to benefit corporate stockholders, and influential special interest groups. Several senators chose to vote against the bill, or simply vote present to avoid giving away tax payer's money unjustly.

      While I agree that Ronald Reagan was a great President in the military arena, his economic policies were a disaster that led us into our last recession. Trickle down proved to be unsound.

      President Bush inhereted a $400 billion dollar surplus from the previous administration, and frittered it away into the current $9 trillion dollar deficit. Senator McCain's stated economic positions would not significantly change this.

      Senator McCain's health care policies would add insurance to 21 million people who do not have it, but strip employer coverage from 20 million people, and for the first time make employer provided insurance taxable as income! Even if he provides a tax credit to offset this the credit falls far below the estimates of what it would cost an average family to have health insurance under his program. Also think of the future. Once the precedent is established what happens to us next?

      Frankly I do not believe Senator Obama will be able to do much of his proposed health care changes, as Congress will likely shoot most of them down, or mitigate them severely as they have in the past when much more sweeping programs were proposed during the Clinton administration.

      McCain's tax policies will benefit people who make over $250,000 per year with greater reductions in taxes, and more than a milllion lower class households will see no cuts. People who make $30-70k per year would pay $325 less in taxes next year, while people in the same range will pay $1118 less in taxes under Obama in the same time. McCain's tax cuts will result in the same people paying $1427 less per year by 2012, while under Obama the tax savings would be $2197 less per year.

      Bush refused to stop the disastrous hemorhaging of American jobs to outsourcing, refusing to remove substantial tax credits for companies which outsource these jobs, benefiting wealthy stockholders, while damaging the working class. McCain's policy would not change this at all. The 1.5 million + American jobs lost will grown in number. Obama supports removing tax advantages for companies who outsource overseas, a policy that is plainly more responsible to the American people.

      Next my concern is that, while Senator McCain is a respectable, experienced politician, he is also 72 years old and in far from perfect health. Governor Palin, while intelligent, it not at this time competent to step into the office, and I frankly doubt that Senator McCain can survive one full term given the stresses of the office.

      Anne Marie- If a teacher, and I am one, were to stop your daughter from praying herself over her food at lunch that teacher has violated the law. The US Supreme Court has upheld private voluntary prayer as a protected 1st amendment right.

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      DK5 I am retired. I have never belonged to a union although I support the process of free collective bargaining between employers and unions where employees choose by secret ballot to unionize. I know little about ACORN other than what I've been reading in the papers in the past couple of weeks. Voter registration fraud and voter fraud are serious crimes, in my opinion. Anyone guilty of them should be punished.

      Extending medicare in gradual steps to cover everyone would be paid for with taxes and through savings by eliminating the non-value added parasitic health care insurance companies from the equation.

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      DK5 8 years ago

      >>>The best solution to the health care crisis in this country would be to extend Medicare gradually over a five or ten year period to cover everyone,

      Interesting,  Would companies/employers be required to kick in 300 dollars toward the cost of Medicaire for all its employees and the taxpayers foot the bill for the rest? At what cost?  Is that cost for only those making over 250,000 dollars? 

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      DK5 8 years ago

      It took 40 years of talking Medicare reform . One man finally did it in 2003. The Media assaulted him for it and to this day,they won't speak of it.

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      DK5 8 years ago

      Ralph Deeds. You are a labor man, Unions Correct? Why is it that Obama's ACORN, with all its employees, refuses, intimidates and even fires those who seek Union wages and benefits?. ACORN fights for Unions but apparently when it comes to their own employees it does not apply.

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      Chones 8 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      Toby- Bravo! Very well said-

      Ralph- &quot;non-repentant&quot; terrorists- still terrorists in my book. Enough said. By the way, (I believe it was as soon as last year) Ayer's wife said she'd like to abolish capatilism.

      Why do you feel the need to make a distinction in the first place (i.e. &quot;former terrorist&quot;)? That's basically justifying that Obama does indeed have ties to these people, and you're merely trying to make yourself feel better about it. Keating Five?? Are you serious? There you go again. To play devil's advocate... sure I'll give you the red mark on McCain's record (that you are so desperately seeking), okay? Now, how many red marks are on Obama's record?? [please see above, hahaha] Are you seriously trying to compete with a blazing fire by lighting one single match?

      Nationalized health care- Obama's plan is basically a carbon-carbon copy of the Canadian system. Any comments on the fact that patients needing specialized health care come to the US (a vast majority of the time)? For every one of our doctors that leaves the country, there's 19 Canadian doctors knocking on our door to get in. Quality goes down- Wait time goes up- Our health care system does need work, but Obama's plan is not the way to go about it. What motivates potential doctors, and more importantly, specialty doctors to become as such in a Nationalized system? The same thing is going to happen here people. The rich (aka Obama and the Leftist elite) will pay to receive quality care, while the average American is left to deal with &quot;Kaiser-gone-worse&quot;.

      I haven't heard any mention of this article either...

      http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/o...

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Here's Newt Gingrich's solution for getting Americn health care "from worst to first."

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24beane....

      McCain's proposal would cause millions to lose the health care currently provided by their employers because the premiums would no longer be a tax-deductible business expense.

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Obama is not far left. He is a moderate, middle-of-the-road Democrat who believes in our democratic free-enterprise, free market system. Just whcich of his proposals do you consider far left? I'm not aware of any. For someone who doesn't like McCain your hub on him sounds like it was written by one of his campaign staffers. And so does this one on Obama!

      My wife and I are covered by Medicare and we both are very satisfied with it. The best solution to the health care crisis in this country would be to extend Medicare gradually over a five or ten year period to cover everyone, starting with children, the unemployed, until everyone was covered. But thanks to the parasitic, non-value added health insurance companies few people believe this approach could be passed even though most people who have studied the problem believe it would be the best solution.

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      Jason Menayan 8 years ago from San Francisco

      I said you were being a drama queen because you accused me of calling you a liar when I hadn't. In that case, "drama queen" is pretty mild. I don't like when people accuse me of doing something when it's clear I hadn't.

      I responded to your comment, written in the present tense (thus implying this is an ongoing state of affairs): "My daughter can't even pray over her meals at school." This does not sound like a specific incident in the past, but at any rate, since I have never asked you to share private details and I don't want to now, consider this dropped.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Marisa-- You may be right. But, considering the quality of the government funded care already in place in this country, I am not too optimistic. I did receive fairly good health care while my ex was in the military, and everything medical was free for me and my family, there were a few shortcomings. The quality was not always that good, and we had a lot of issues with paperwork not getting filed, papers disappearing, and just poor organization that made the whole system flawed.

      Ralph-- I am familiar with the Keating Five. That is one of the reasons I am not a huge fan of McCain, either. I just have more issues with Obama. As I said before, and I will not say it again, I am a supporter of Bob Barr, but since he has no chance to win, I might vote for McCain. A lesser of two evils sort of thing. He is a conservative, which is better that Obama, who is so far left, he's about to fall off the map. I really wish Bob Barr had gotten more attention. I like him.

      Toby-- Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I doubt if Obama would ever do that. Or how about taking a bunch of his money, and giving to the people in the projects of Chicago that he always talks about. Don't see that happening either.

      livelonger-- I am talking about a specific instance that happened in my daughter's school. I will not go into details, as it is a family issue. I never asked anyone to shut down a school for her to pray. I am talking about a very specific event involving my daughter and a teacher at her school. Thank you again for the name calling.

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      Jason Menayan 8 years ago from San Francisco

      Anna Marie: You don't have to be a drama queen. I don't know enough about you to know if this distortion is part of a pattern that would make you a liar. Since I have no reason to make a wholesale ad hominem attack (despite you baiting me to do so), I'm going to insist on my assertion that your daughter can't pray to herself is a distortion.

      And it is.

      If you're talking about &quot;voluntary prayer&quot;, I assume you mean you're demanding a &quot;moment of silence&quot; that the teachers enforce on their students. If you want your daughter to pray to herself, she can easily do so during recess or other breaks. She does not need the teacher to shut down all school activity for her to do so.

      Correct me if I'm wrong.

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      Toby Bigley 8 years ago

      For 6 years President Bush Held office and everyone was happy, He stood up against the terrorist, like everyone wanted, we are in Iraq now rebuilding, installing schools for their kids, electricity, public water and policing their country which I think is B.S. at taxpayers expense, but it issomething &quot;we&quot; have to do to show the world we are a giving nation. The last two years, since the Democrats took over control of Congress the economy has struggled, but don't believe it all. Did we just not go around paying 3-4 dollars a gallon for gas? Are you still not going out to dinner 1-2 nights aweek, or are you taking your lunch to work in a brown bag? But here is another thought for all the democrats.

      If Obama believes in redistributing the welfare why does he not lead by example. Here you have Barack Obama out campaigning, working hard to raise money for his campaign, much as many Americans do to support their family. If he wants Americans to redistribute the wealth, give to the needy, the ones not collecting as much as others, then he should redistribute some of his campaign funds to the GOP. Ummm, I bet he won't think that is such a great idea.

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Very true. We would already have better heath care but for the TV ad blitz financed by the health insurance companies early in the first Clinton administration. The health insurance companies are parasites on the body politic.

      Anne Marie, you seem to be quite an expert on Wright, Ayers and Rezko. Are you familiar with the Keating Five and all the favors McCain accepted in return for trying to kill the investigation of Keating's role in the Savings and Loan scandal At the beginning of your Hub, you portray yourself as an "anti-partisan" person and then proceed to make a vicious partisan attack on Obama.

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      Marisa Wright 8 years ago from Sydney

      Anna Marie, Australia has government sponsored health care. I can get all my health carefree, or at minimal cost. The system is not perfect, and many Australians complain that it could be better, but the fact is that NO ONE is ever turned away from a hospital or a doctor because they can't pay, and the quality of care is very good. In fact I've seen specialists in the public system who have been much better than the private guys.

      There are any number of other countries which have similar schemes that work just as well, if not better. What America needs is for someone to be brave enough to wrest control back from the insurance companies, instead of tacking on a sub-standard public system and allowing the rest of the money to be sucked up by a broken private system.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Ok, fine, call me a liar. But next time, it you are going to call me a liar, at least come right out and say it. Voluntary prayer is not allowed in school, unless she attends a parochial school. I left out details because the details of my life, and the life of my child are not up for discussion. I will leave it at that.

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      Jason Menayan 8 years ago from San Francisco

      Anna Marie - I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. There is something missing from your &quot;my daughter isn't allowed to pray to herself&quot; story.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      And your point is??? I think abortion is murder. Ok, so Ayers used to be a terrorist??? So, someone who murders someone, as long as it was in the past, isn't a murder??? They used to be?

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      A radical isn't the same as a terrorist. It would be more accurate to call Ayers and Dohrn former terrorists, in my opinion. Calling them terrorists is like calling a woman who has an abortion two months after getting pregnant a "child murderer."

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      pacwriter--your first comment was blank. As for your second comment, I completely agree. People with beliefs that extreme don't just up and change their minds and decide to be less radical. And as for him being a college professsor, well, remember all the radical movements of the sixties?? Many of them were started and inspired by radical college professors. Ayers just decided to take a different route to spread his radical ideas.

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      pacwriter 8 years ago from North Carolina

      What do you get when you have two terrorists marry? Ayers and his wife are both known terrorists. Do you think they swept all that 60's nonsense out the window when they set up hosekeeping?In 1994, Dohrn said of her political beliefs: &quot;I still see myself as a radical.&quot; She was the head of the weathermen when her to be husband was only a member.

      Yes, you are painted with the same brush as those you associate - and for good reason. Obama has many connections with the famous pair!

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      livelonger-- In a lot of cases, yes, people who believe in God are oppressed. My daughter can't even pray over her meals at school. Even though she is doing it of her own free will, and not harming anyone, or forcing her beliefs on anyone, it is not allowed. At the school I attended when I was in school, there were several groups for various different religious affiliations, but none for Christians. It was not allowed. We were taught about religions in school, all religions except Christianity.

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      Jason Menayan 8 years ago from San Francisco

      Since when is God a &quot;scary word&quot;? People's objections are to some people presuming to bring God into policy and government. No one cares what people believe in their private lives. I'm not sure how people who comprise 80% of the country can delude themselves into thinking they're a beleaguered, oppressed minority.

      allshookup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Family_Assoc... - if you don't think its actions towards gays, Jews, AIDS victims, and Muslims constitute bigotry, then there's no getting through to you.

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      I already get the AFA emails. I'm not very impressed.

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Chones--You are right. I would essentially be throwing my vote away. I agree with your statement that it is a matter of a lesser of two evils. I dislike the stance Obama has on a lot of issues, and do not feel he would be a strong, effective leader. I have an overwhelming respect for our military and everything they have done. I know very well the sacrifices they have made. Thank you for your comments.

      allshookup--I agree. God is a scary word for a lot of people. Many people have worked very hard to keep God away from all of us, no matter what the cost.

      Chef Jeff--I won't begin to say that I have any knowledge of the early years before the Vietnam war. I think many of these comments regarding such are better suited for a hub of your own on the issue, and do not fully relate to the issues brought about in my hub. Thank you for your comments and I do respect your opinions, though they differ from my own.

      livelonger--Yes, with only two weeks to go, I don't see anything changing the opinions of those who have made up their mind, but so many people go to the polls and vote uninformed. Also note that this was published quite a bit longer ago than today.

      There are a great number of comments in the past day, and it would take a long time to comment on every single comment made. Thank you all for your comments.

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Bigotry? In what way?

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      Jason Menayan 8 years ago from San Francisco

      I'm afraid all you can learn from the AFA is that bigotry is alive and well in the USA, and, as usual, it goes under a much nicer-sounding euphemism (&quot;family values&quot;).

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Ralph, you always make me laugh. LOL Thanks for the offer, but we don't use the fireplace anymore. But I do appreciate the thought.

      I'd be happy to hook you up with the American Family Association newsletter though.

      http://www.afa.net/

      There you go. You might be shocked what you can learn on there!

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Well, you are right--Bush and McSame are no Reagans.

      If I knew your address I'd get you a gift subscription to the NYT. You might be surprised by what you'd find!

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Ralph, did you see who I said protected us? I never used the word Bush. I said REAGAN! I admire REAGAN for a number of reasons. If 9/11 had happened during Reagan's time in office, he would have handled this much differently. And much better than it has been by Bush. I'm sad that our son more than likely will never see such a great man as Reagan in the White House in his lifetime. As time passes, more and more people are losing backbone and conviction and morals. Padding their own pockets, kissing up to corrupt people. Don't take my word for it, just ask Obama, I'm sure he can fill you in since he is the most liberal person to ever be up there.

      Again with the NY Times as a source? hahahahahaha

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Allshookup, FYI, Bush and McSames's policies aren't protecting our country. Their policies have increased the danger of terrorism says a British terrorism expert and former head of British intelligence MI5:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/world/europe/22b...

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Off The Rails MSNBC just ran what we can only call an extraordinary interview with NBC News' Chuck Todd and Brian Williams. They were discussing the interview NBC just did with John McCain and Sarah Palin. We'll have the video shortly. But what really stood out was the candidness of Todd's discussion of the wheels possibly coming off McCain's campaign, his willingness to discuss the tension between the two candidates and even to speculate that McCain may be starting to blame Palin for his campaign's collapse. That's obviously speculation on Todd's part. But ... Well, wait to see it yourself. --Josh Marshall

      Are American lives more important? Good question, Paraglider.

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Chones, Yep we used the word. LOL And I'll use it again proudly. As you have seen, my comments are not the most popular on hubpages. You know what, it's all good! It doesn't bother me that people don't agree with me. I feel I have to speak my heart and mind and my convictions. And yes, God bless Reagan. I saw where Nancy is doing better and out of the hospital. I was really glad to see that. I admire her so very much. Such a classy lady!

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      Jason Menayan 8 years ago from San Francisco

      Two weeks to go, and I don't think anyone's mind is really going to change.

      You're entitled to publish your opinion, Anna Marie. Fortunately, yours will not be the majority and we'll enjoy a more responsible presidential administration for at least the next 4 years with Obama and Biden.

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      Chones 8 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      Paraglider- Way to take things out of context and rebute it with an arrogent comment.

      allshookup- Thanks, I've enjoyed reading your insightful posts as well. I do miss Reagan; he was one of a kind- God bless him. Uh oh, look at that allshookup, we both mentioned what has become a "naughty word"...

      I'm not sorry if I've offended anyone :)

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Paraglider, if someone were threatening your country, would you not want someone to protect you the same way Reagan protected us? If anyone can answer that question with a 'no' I will not believe you. Everyone wants protection for themselves and their families. No matter who you are. He was an AMERICAN President, therefore, the lives he was protecting were American. That was his job. This is not about who is more precious that others. That's just a liberal argument against anyone who will protect themselves or their family with any type of firearm or force of any kind. No matter what country you live in, you want you and those people safe because you and your family live there. God gave us all a built-in reaction to protect ourselves.

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      Dave McClure 8 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

      {{ No American lives lost. Problem taken care of.}}

      Are American lives more precious than other lives?

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Chones, great points in your post. Ticks me off bad to hear people trashing our military. They are doing a hard job our country asks of them. They should be revered and respected. And if anyone reading this is in the service, please know I am thankful for your service! Thank you!!!

      I'm glad you brought up Reagan. Remember when we had trouble with Cuba? Did Reagan sit and talk and talk and think and see what the UN thought and talk and see what both sides of the issue felt about the situation and talk? No. He made a decision. He actually had the spine to do that, to protect our country! He sent a bomb down a chimney and the trouble was over. No American lives lost. Problem taken care of. I so miss Reagan! I fear he was the last of the good breed. I hope I'm wrong. But, you gotta love a president with a backbone who loves America. Where did they all go?

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      Chones 8 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      Anna- Thanks so much for this hub.  Your thoughtful words have inspired me to sign up and post a reply.  With that said, I am a bit confused as to why you'd essentially "waste" a vote on a candidate whom has no chance.  I feel as though this election is indeed the lesser of two evils.  You are intelligent enough to know that the liberal media is doing everything in their power to cover up Obama's short-comings and frightening associations.  So I think it would be in this country's benefit to vote for John McCain, and not throw a right (that our soldiers have given their lives for) that we have as Americans down the drain.

      Chef Jeff- I sincerely thank you for your service to this country.  Whether or not people agree with the US's military decisions (past and present) we must always pay our respects to those who serve this country.  Your last post was very insightful, thank you.

      Ralph- I feel more anger coming from you than any sort of positive contribution to this hub.  You are indeed blinded by hatred in my book; I feel sorry for you.

      Misha- I believe it was you who stated that there really isn't much difference between the two major political parties, and that there are indeed many more things going on within our government than we realize (in regards to decisions that are made, etc.).  I also believe you stated that rarely do candidates ever do what they've promised.  I agree with you on both items.

      Thank you to whomever mentioned the yellowcake we found.  I too was aware of this, but doubt most others knew about such info.  To say we kill innocent women and children is silly.  That is disrespectful to our military, who are the very people concerned for the Iraqi's wellbeing.  I don't believe we are the one's using our own woman and children as suicide bombers, etc.... 

      Lastly, whether or not we as a country have done things to promote the attacks of 9-11... We are indeed the most understanding, accepting, helpful, and just country that I'm aware of.  We've proven to be the glue that holds the world together; economically, militarily, socially, etc.  No one is always right, but I think the US's efforts in all areas have had the best of intentions; regardless if in hindsight our actions are seen as evil by others.  Bottom line, Islamic extremist's religion teaches to kill everyone (man, woman, or child) who doesn't accept Allah/Islam.  I believe we have made many mistakes in Iraq, but we have also ridden the world of Sadaam and been attack-free for seven years.  I think there's something to be said for that.  I don't agree with many things the Bush administration has done, but like it or not, I feel that Bush will be seen as a great president when we look back into our nation's past.  He's no Reagan, but he has stood strong, and that's more than I can say for most...especially an "Obama-type".  I don't want to give up this nation's soviergnty, and I feel that Obama does not have this nation's best interests at hand. 

      Thanks for reading my post :) 

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Ralph, so to prove what you say you give me links to the NY Times and the ACLU? hahahaha

      Next joke please.........

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      Ralph Deeds 8 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Allshookup, you shouldn't believe everything you hear or read. CHECKING THE FACTS will help you avoid appearing ridiculous!

      ACLU protects freedom of speech for all, liberals, conservatives, believers, athiests, et al.

      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940...

      The ACLU is the foremost advocate of individual rights.

      http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=200609...

      ACLU protects religious freedom here

      http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res2...

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      allshookup 8 years ago from The South, United States

      Misha says:7 days ago

      Complacency is in belieiving that American government will not try to punish you for exercising your &quot;right&quot; for freedom of speech, if it chooses so :)

      I think you're getting the names of things mixed. It's the ACLU that punishes those who exercise their freedom of speech. If you don't believe me, ask a Boy Scout.

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      Chef Jeff 8 years ago from Universe, Milky Way, Outer Arm, Sol, Earth, Western Hemisphere, North America, Illinois, Chicago.

      I write this with some trepidation because when one speaks out for critically thinking about an emotional issue and sees something that seems negative toward one's own nation, he is often misunderstood.  I write this as an American who knows that we are not perfect, even if we are trying to be a better nation and people day by day.

      The true test is not what a nation says about itself, and not even about what others say about it, but rather by how much it realizes that failure is a lesson to help one grow and mature.  Failure is not a thing to be ashamed of, if one uses the lesson to make oneself a better human being. 

      As an historical proof I offer the case of Abraham Lincoln. He did not become a great leader by his successes. Indeed, he was shaped and molded into a great man because of his failures, coupled with his inherent ability to see failure as a stepping stone to success. One could say the same about Dr. Carver. Martin Luther King, Henry Ford and Thomas Edison, and many others.

      In Viet Nam we were fighting an emeny that we once were.  In the Revolutionary War against Great Britain, we were like the North Vietnamese - fighting against a militarily superior power for our own ideas of how to govern ourselves.

      Make no mistake about it - the British saw us exactly as we saw the North Vietnamese:  traitors, guerilla fighters, not playing by the rules.

      Few people know that Ho Chi Minh's first inclinations toward creating a Vietnamese nation were to emulate us.  His first constitution was nearly a carbon copy of our own.  He wanted his nation to be like us.

      What higher compliment could anyone give us?

      In 1919 in France as the great powers discussed how to divide up the world, Ho Chi Minh pleaded with President Wilson and the U.S. to back him as he fought to create an independent nation as free and independent as was the U.S.  He counted upon us remembering that our roots were similar.  We favored France and the colonialization policies they carried out. We turned a deaf ear to Viet Nam.

      Later, from about 1932 and well into WWII, Ho took weapons from any nation willing to give them, and after the war expected to see Viet Nam a free and independent nation. However, our turning him away for so many years forced him to turn to China and Russia, Communnist nations at the time, and eventually they swayed him with their doctrines because we failed to recognize him as a leader.

      In other words, after being turned down by the U.S. for so long, Ho had a change of heart about what we really stood for. Our words said one thing, but our actions said quite a different thing. He saw us a hypocritical.

      Think about this in terms of your own experiences - if you liked someone and they kept turning away from you, would you find other friends?  Would you do that even if you needed to change your views?  Most people do, and most nations do.

      People do that all the time. That, indeed, is how gangs & cults of all kinds get new members.

      The final straw for Ho was when we rearmed Japanese soldiers right after WWII and used them as policemen in many formerly Japanese occupied nations.  These were the same Japanese we had been fighting, and who had brutalized the local populations.

      Imagine for a moment in the government decided to make all motorcycle gangs, neo-nazi groups and the KKK the policement of this nation.  Would that make you love the government?  The effect for the Vietnamese was instant hatred for the U.S.

      Why?  Was it because we had freedom and they didn't?  Well, maybe, but I believe and have been told by people who were in the North Vietnamese nation at that time that it was more because we had lied to them, presented a false hope, and the then sided with the bullies that had killed hundreds of thousands of them.

      America did not keep its word, and then fought against them.  Yes, they could have surrendered, just as our ancestors who fought for independence could have just surrendered to King George and that would have been that. But people dont do that - nations don't do that.

      But just as King George stirred anger and passion for freedom in our hearts, so did our actions in Southeast Asia stir passion and anger in the hearts of many people.  We were the authors of our own misery, and all because we were foolish enough to see the world as only being either with us or against us. That is what we said and that is what we believed and the consequences were that we fought a huge, deadly,truly needless war in Viet Nam that killed some 50,000 plus Americans, countless hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese, while leaving 250,000 Americans and millions of Vietnamese wounded, physically as well as emotionally.

      Was it worth the cost?  Was the war really a fight against Communism?  Or was it a way of covering up our own incompetency in the world? No one ever asked, why did the Vietnamese become Communist when their first inclinations were to be like America?

      Even today, no one asks that question.

      I believe the lesson we should have learned form Viet Nam was that we need to be proactive and positive, welcoming and open in our approach to how we deal with the nations of the world.  They see us as either a friend or a foe depending upon our own actions, not by the reasons of their religion, or even the reasons of the people who talk bad about us.

      In other words, they judge us by our actions. when our actions dispriove the words of people who hate america, they see through it.

      But when our actions are negative, or do not match our rhetoric, this proves the mate-mongers' words to be true and then whole nations turn against us.

      We have a chance in this new century to reinvent ourselves, our image in the world, so that it is more like we should be, like we think we are, like we say we are.

      But can we do that? Is it too late? 

      We are currently a fearful people - afraid that someone will attack us.  Yes, we can send in the marines, but what happens when there are not enough marines to cover every crisis?  Unless we are all willing to don the uniform and fight, we will never win this struggle with soldiers and bombs.

      We have to win this struggle by being what every Christian and non-Christian claims to be - loving and willing to turn the other cheek.  We must cease from seeing every struggle as a way to force our ideas upon others.  How many times has my preacher told me that actions speak louder than words?  Does he mean that in order to win over the people of the world we need to substitute positive actions for negative words?

      Does he also mean that positive actions can wipe away negative images?  Yes, that is what he means.  But he also wants to tell me that it takes time, because when a bully suddenly repents, few people believe his words until they see the actions that prove them to be true.

      And like it or not, America has been acting more like a bully than a friend to many nations of the world.  And some people in the U.S. do not care at all what other nations think of us.  And then they are completely surprised when someone flies an aircraft into a building, or bombs a ship or blasts a residential tower.

      How we treat others is the exact cause of how they see us and treat us.  That is simply a fact of life, played out on a personal level every day when kids in the playground take sides and form cliques, gangs and then terrorize others who are not like them.  Only on the playground of the real world, gangs have weapons and know how to use them.

      So, while I do not condone the attacks of 9-11, and indeed I deplore them with all my being, I am not surprised by them.  I am hoping that in the future we will finally learn the lesson of true leadership and will then change the world for the better.

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      Misha 8 years ago from DC Area

      Complacency is in belieiving that American government will not try to punish you for exercising your &quot;right&quot; for freedom of speech, if it chooses so :)

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      Anna Marie Bowman 8 years ago from Florida

      Paraglider- Yes, I understand that this is the internet. I was mearly making a statement about why I was glad I grew up in the US. I know some countries don't provide the same freedoms as the United States does, I also know that some countries do.

      Misha- It is not complacency, it is called freedom of speech.

      pacwriter- If Ted Kennedy were on the ballot, no, I would not vote for him. I lived in Mass, for a while. I know quite a bit about the man, and while I have respect for him when it comes to certain things, other things bother me greatly. I agree, Obama is more liberal that Kennedy.

      vitaeb- Yes, many people opposed the war in Vietnam. It was poorly executed, and we were fighting an enemy the likes which we had never seen before. It is one thing to oppose a war, it is another thing entirely to spit on the brave men and women who serve our country, who make great sacrifices for our very well being, and deserve great honor and respect.

      Chef Jeff- Thank you for your service to our country!! I know too often it goes unsaid.