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   ptosisposted 12 years ago

   Amendment IV
   The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
   
   Amendment IX
   The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
   
   What does the founding fathers say?
   
   Debunking a myth: If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. Exercising your right to privacy is not in itself suspicious.
   
   "If a refusal to consent to an otherwise impermissible search provided the needed grounds for a non-consensual search, then the right against unreasonable searches would be meaningless. - http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2012/08/when-i … -your.html
   
   "Time and again individuals have been fired from jobs, or failed to get jobs, because of errors in the Criminal Records Bureau database. They have been stigmatised as criminals, even to the extent of being falsely branded as sex offenders, because of database failings. - http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the … ave-n.html
   
   What are the 2 rejected bills of rights amendments?
   
   1 is how House of Representatives would have been much larger that 435 maximum.
   2 was to forbade Congress from giving itself a pay raise.
   
   I would like an amendment that states that no government official can be exempt themselves from any law that they have enacted on the rest of us.
   
   "a "constitutional" signing statement: a president will object to a provision of law by citing a provision of the Constitution, or by citing a Supreme Court ruling interpreting the Constitution, or by bare assertion (without citation to authority) that the law offends the Constitution or invades the power of the Executive. Or the president may announce that he will interpret the law to avoid constitutional difficulties that he perceives." http://www.coherentbabble.com/faqs.htm
   
   And is all this snooping cost effective? I.E. Boston Marathon FBI FUBAR?  A good book to read is called SMERSH about wasted resources from a paranoid need to control everything and just how stupid it all is in the end.
   
   

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   tirelesstravelerposted 12 years ago

   Malcolm Gladwell in Blink shows how more information is just more not necessarily better.

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      ptosisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, but that's not the point. The point is:
      
      "It is also a serious violation of the law. The 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of my country, Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and numerous statutes and treaties forbid such systems of massive, pervasive surveillance. While the US Constitution marks these programs as illegal, my government argues that secret court rulings, which the world is not permitted to see, somehow legitimize an illegal affair. These rulings simply corrupt the most basic notion of justice – that it must be seen to be done. The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law."                  - Edward Snowden  http://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Edwar … en-to.html
      
      

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