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Global Warming - the alarmists are at it again!

  1. sannyasinman profile image61
    sannyasinmanposted 3 years ago

    Once again, the latest IPCC report makes exaggerated claims of a looming Armageddon, cherry-picking data to support their alarmist propaganda. 

    However, the NIPCC report also from climate scientists (although not on the UN payroll) does not agree with the official UN report.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/20 … e-science/

    Oh yes, it’s not called “global warming” any more. Could that be because there is none?
    http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2014/04/01/ … te-change/

    And some other possible causes for “climate change” . . .
    http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/11/05/ … r-weapons/

    What do you think?

    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I think anybody who doesn't believe that man can affect climate is- well- delusional.

      It has been recognised for many years that man affects local climate, why is it accepted locally but not globally?

      1. Silverspeeder profile image60
        Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Governments push their version of climate change because they have found it to be a great money spinner, TAX TAX TAX .

        Mankind undoubtedly affects the climate so shouldn't we be looking at ways of reducing the effects by reducing population?

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          What? So those that don't care don't have to care?
          Very generous of you.

          1. Silverspeeder profile image60
            Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Lost me then John.

            Is your generosity quip aimed at my dislike of paying higher and higher taxes without seeing any significant results or is it about the undeniable fact that man affects the environment but we continue to produce more and more humans?

            1. John Holden profile image60
              John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Your comment about reducing pollution by reducing population.

              Where would you start? With those whose political views didn't align with yours?

              1. wilderness profile image96
                wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                No - we should start with anyone that has the letter "S" in their online name.

                1. janesix profile image61
                  janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Then only John Holden would be left.

                  That's a pretty small gene pool for repopulating the Earth.

                2. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Hm. mine has a silent S for Stuart in the middle.

              2. Silverspeeder profile image60
                Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Did you assume I meant culling humans John?

                I would start with education, educate people as to why its not a good idea to have 5, 10 or 20 children, educate people into the fact that a rise in population uses more natural resources and the use of those natural recourses contributes to climate change.
                We are struggling now with only 7billion people how will we cope with 8billion by 2050 and this a conservative estimate.
                Of course there will be those who point to the Peoples republic of China's one parent policy which has many critics and as many flaws and exceptions yet it still prevented an extra estimated 200million population growth between 1979-2009.

                1. janesix profile image61
                  janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Who is we? The US? We don't even have an overpopulation problem. China does, but they have that under control for the most part. Maybe countries like India could use some education. Who's job is it to teach them?

                  1. Silverspeeder profile image60
                    Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    We as Humans, or do you think its just other people not America, they don't cause any pollution do they?

                2. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Slowing down or even stopping population growth would have little or no effect. You would actually have to drastically reduce population to have any meaningful effect.

                  1. janesix profile image61
                    janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Well then, that's too bad. Who would ever recommend culling humans? Only a deranged mind.

                    The population will most likely reduce due to war and simple starvation eventually. Sad.

        2. psycheskinner profile image80
          psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Global warming initiative actually cost governments money and reduce economic growth.  So it would be a very strange hoax for them to push.

          1. Silverspeeder profile image60
            Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Governments don't have money, taxpayers do!

    2. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      What seems funny to me is those that wish to overlook recent climactic changes as delusions of over zealous scientists to panic the population, readily accept the older science of archeology to determine frequency through the ages of it happening before. Are the two sciences at odds with each other? Is more in depth explanation the key? Then you have those that would blame it on politics as a tax raising scheme. I am old enough to remember distinct four season temperatures in the fifties and sixties and they were more pronounced. Now it seems we go from a medium temperature range in spring and fall straight to the harsh temperatures of summer and winter. Something is different but refusing to do something about it, whether unaffiliated studies or specific targeted theories, we are ignoring something right in our faces. I have an idea lets just talk about it and save ourselves the money and effort so nothing is done. Wait! That's what we are doing now.

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      Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Man what a brutal winter that was. Still got snow on my yard. Did you see that storm that hit the east coast in April?


      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/8862263_f248.jpg

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      Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this
      1. Silverspeeder profile image60
        Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I was a child in 1963 but I remember my father having to dig us out of the house and I live in England!
        Over my lifetime there have been many good and bad winters, some with snowfall, rainfall and freezing temps and some with warm and sunny weather.

  2. janesix profile image61
    janesixposted 3 years ago

    “climate change”

    Indeed. The climate never changes. That's silly.

    Chemtrailsplanet? Really? That's where you get your news?

    Maybe you're being sarcastic, I'm not sure. I hope so.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image25
      Castlepalomaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Built 17 worlds record 30,000 tons or more snow playgrounds, over a course of 35 years. I know intimately global warming is very alarming, yet not all global warming on earth is created by man.

      1. janesix profile image61
        janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I don't know if the climate is warming or cooling (there are good theories for both). It's certainly changing.

        Mostly natural.

        Probably a little to do with our humble efforts, but not even close to all.

  3. sannyasinman profile image61
    sannyasinmanposted 3 years ago

    At first the alarmists coined the phrase "AGW" or Anthropogenic Global Warming - or "human caused global warming" in plain English.

    Then, when the climate would not cooperate, they changed this to just "Global Warming" - harder to deny, but with the same connotations.

    Then when the climate still would not cooperate, they changed this to "Climate Change" - even harder to deny but still with the same connotations. Now some are even saying that if you are a climate change denier, you should be put in prison.

    How can anyone deny that the climate is changing? An example . ..   

    This morning, it was cloudy. This afternon the sun came out, and this evening it rained!. What do you call that? Yes, folks thats climate change. 

    The real issue is that, as more and more scientists and governments are now saying . . . the catastrophic predictions of the IPCC are ludicrous. The earth is actually cooling now, and even when it was warming a few years ago, that was NOT caused by human CO2 emissions. Period.

    So all this nonsense about carbon taxes and carbon footprints is just baloney! There is a political agenda in play here . . . cant you see it?

    1. janesix profile image61
      janesixposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      There might be a political agenda, but that's besides the point. There is REAL climate change (and not  the daily weather changes in your area, as you seem to equate with climate, which it is not) going on, whether it is cooling or heating doesn't matter. Changes are natural, and go in cycles. This is obvious. That's what ice ages are about. We've been through a Garden of Eden period of stability for a few thousand years,and that's ending. It will have major impact on the world, crops, weather etc. People need to realize that things change,and be prepared for it. Like not having an ifrastucture that relies on uninterrupted electric power through the type of grid system we currently have. That is too centralized, etc.

      People need to remember that we are always nine missed meals away from chaos.

    2. Castlepaloma profile image25
      Castlepalomaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      sannyasinman

      Ice has melted in the the Arctic in the pass 25 years to the scale of Alaska and Texus combined. I snowbsculpture  international for 35 years, ten years ago  loss 80% of the snow bussiness due to warm weather. Today stopped because palm tree and banana trees are growing in Vancouver BC.

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Hard to believe that either normal palm OR banana trees could grow without considerable help in a location with an average low temperatures of 1 degree C for 3 months out of the year.  That's a guarantee that many weeks each year will see sub freezing temperatures each night.

        http://www.worldweatheronline.com/Vanco … ia/CA.aspx

        1. Castlepaloma profile image25
          Castlepalomaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Lived in Florida for a wail, it went down to freezing temperatures the odd time. The bananas and palms trees can handle it for a short time, the same in Vancouver, except some days they need to be covered.

          You should see our ugliest gardens of cactus and succulents plants and visit many of the clubs in the big cities.

          My grandkids will not believe me when I tell them, I made a living in the winter time at ice and snow sculpture.

          1. wilderness profile image96
            wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            What you are conveniently leaving out of the story is that both are very specialized plants, adapted to cold climates, and that they have been around for many, many decades.  And that, particularly in the case of the banana, they require specialized care in Vancouver in spite of being cold climate adapted.

            (You might want to research "windmill palms" a little)

 
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