What is the value of a socialistic society?

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   cjhunsingerposted 10 years ago

   What is the value of a socialistic society?
   
   So many Americans today seem to embrace socialism over the capitalism that made America without a knowledge of it's history or that it may lead to a totalitarian rule. Socialism defined is the government control over all that is made, how it is made and who makes it. In this the government now has control over all that you do and who your are or will be.

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   Snøwmanposted 10 years ago

   There was a college professor that did an experiment on socialism. Most of his class likes socialism, but he didn't. To prove a point he said that he would take the grades of the entire class and average them out and give everyone that grade. The first time everyone Got a B. After that people started realizing that they can get a good grade without doing very much work. The second time everyone got a C. Eventually the whole class failed.
   
   Another thing about socialism. Socialism is theft. You make something and someone takes it and gives it to someone else. They make excuses like we need socialistic health care because health care is a right and everyone should have it. That doesn't work. Imagine someone robbing a bank and the cops show up. The robber says "Don't mind me, I need this money more than this bank does" The cops are still going to arrest him. It's still theft and it's still illegal.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Snowman-I could not have delivered a better analogy. It is as Churchill said, "----the equal distribution of poverty." or achievement.

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      Robert the Bruceposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Well written. The American welfare system is a prime example of failure.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 10 years ago

   Examples of socialism in America:  Fire and police departments, public libraries, health care in the military, the interstate highway system.  It's not all bad.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Kathleen--These are not examples of socialism. The redistribution of wealth to those who have not contributed is a better example. The ACA is a major move in that direction, as too, the welfare state.

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   junksellerposted 10 years ago

   There are different definitions of socialism and different theories of socialism, but this is a pretty decent and basic one:
   
   "A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
   
   You should take particular note of the part "community as a whole". That means the individual people, not the state. In Marx's vision of communism, there is no state at all, which is the COMPLETE opposite of your given definition.
   
   Why do people embrace it? Ever read the Constitution? "We the people..." is as socialistic a statement as one could make. The entire spirit of our country and what you seem to desire is the very heart of socialism.
   
   What you describe is totalitarianism, not socialism, and very few people embrace that.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      junk--Define community and at what point in history has such thinking ever been successful. This sounds like another failed hippie commune. The rest of your post is so convoluted it deserves no response.

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      junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Community = us. There are successful worker collectives all over the place.

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