July 30th CNN Democrat Debate: Live Commentary

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   The debate is about to start. Come on folks, you know you are watching.
   
   Heads-up points:
   
   A lot is being made of Warren and Sanders' friendship. What will we see?
   
   A lot is being made of Mayor Pete and Beto O'ruarke competing for the same slot and each needing a 'break-out' moment. What will we see?
   
   Something I like; The ground rules are that interrupting candidates will lose time.
   
   Fasten your seat belts.
   
   GA

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      Don Wposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Buttigieg, Warren, Sanders come out of it looking ok (or at least memorable). Williamson was a big surprise. Couldn't help agree with her on many things. Her introduction was great too.
      
      Buttigieg's comment stood out:
      
      "Of course, we need to get money out of politics, but when I propose the actual structural democratic reforms that might make a difference: end the Electoral College, amend the Constitution if necessary to clear up Citizens United, have DC actually be a state, and depoliticize the Supreme Court with structural reform, people look at me funny, as if this country was incapable of structural reform. This is a country that once changed its Constitution so you couldn’t drink and changed it back because we changed our minds, and you’re telling me we can’t reform our democracy in our time. We have to or we will be having the same argument 20 years from now".

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         Don Wposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Oh dear. Spoke too soon. the more I read about Williamson, the more I don't like. Anti vaxxer for a start.

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         GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Mayor Pete has said a lot of sensible things. I don't agree with him about the Electoral College, but otherwise, that was still a sensible statement.
         
         GA

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Opening statements:
   
   My opinion:
   
   Amy Klobuchar and Mayor Pete had the best opening statements, followed by Warren.
   
   Sanders was just more of the same-old same-old; evil rich and evil corporate America.
   
   And we are off to the races as the questions begin.
   
   GA

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Warren doges question about tax increases on middle-class to pay for medicare-for-all, Mayor Pete jumps in to say it is not right for middle-class to pay more.
   
   Beto and Ryan jump in to add their 2-cents,  Not impressive.
   
   GA

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Uh oh. Sanders accuses Jake Trapper's question as being a Republican talking point. It was not a good Sanders' moment.
   
   My score: Mayor Pete +1 Sanders -1.
   
   GA

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Warren talks about big pharma . .. a +1 for Warren.
   
   Now Williamson comes in - and is cut short by moderators. Bad form.
   
   Sanders comes back in beating up on Big Pharma. Excellent points about pricing, but comes across to me as just more "Big Pharma"   bashing. But, this may be a winning point for Democrats.
   
   Oops, Sanders uses Union benefits as an example but ignores that his ideas would negate all those bargained benefits. ???
   
   Double oops. Sanders disputes Medicare payments to healthcare providers as adequate.
   
   GA

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Oh biggers! A Decriminalization of illegal border crossers question; Beto O'Ruark answers honestly that it should still remain a crime. Of course, my kudos to his answer is due to my bias, but, he answered the question honestly. +1 to Beto.
   
   Other candidates seem to support Beto while bashing Trump.
   
   Oops. Warren jumps in with Trump-bashing arguments that \seeking asylum is not a crime, but, her comments don't address the question asked. -1 for Warren.
   
   Oh, Buggers!  Williamson joins in with real-life examples of politics over-ruling c0ommon sense solutions. +1 for Williamson.
   
   GA

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Governor Bullock on gun control. Sorry gov. your time is up.
   
   GA

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Mayor Pete on gun control;  weak. Williamson jumps in with [i]"yada, yada, yada. . .  +1 for Williamson.  I am beginning to like this woman, (oh how I was tempted to say "girl"), she put politics aside for the the case of reality.
   
   GA

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I liked her passionate rant about reforming money in politics.

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Gov. Stephen Bullock . . . a question about Trump; good-bye governor. Your answer was lame and Warren beat you up on it.
   
   GA

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    GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

    Damn! I lost my last response.
    
    Sanders lost the "bigotry" conversation,  Both Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar address the rax increase aspects of hid proposals,
    His.numbers assume a middle-class tax increase.

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       Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Egad Gus, no tussle between Warren and Sanders. How many will drop out after tonight? Are you having a raffle? If so, I'm in like Flynn....not Michael, of course! 

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       Ken Burgessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Good idea GA,
       
       I did not watch, but reading the commentary here is a great lead in for what to look for when I watch the highlights on Youtube today.
       
       Warren I suspect came out looking the best, she is more viable than most on that stage.
       
       Democrats need to select the candidate that America can get behind, not someone that only they will get behind... and not someone who is 'old school' D.C. politics as usual (meaning Biden).
       
       The Democrats are on the cusp of making labels like 'globalist-party' and 'socialist-party' stick with their own rhetoric, I have to wonder how many Americans are tuning in, and getting turned off by some of what is being discussed.

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    PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago

    I recorded it and am still watching. So far, Elizabeth Warren is by far the strongest.

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    PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago

    Mayor Pete talking directly to Republican legislators about their dubious place in history....excellent

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    Eastwardposted 4 years ago

    Sanders and Warren stuck pretty close together, which was interesting. I thought Mayor Pete and Beto did alright, but didn't have any moments that will propel them above the current front-runners.

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    PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago

    Just finished watching and here are my first thoughts:
    
    Bernie and Elizabeth stood their ground and vigorously defended their policies. Warren was especially good when she said to Delaney, why are you running for president if you're only going to tell us what you cannot do, or something to that effect.
    
    Mayor Pete did well. I like him and I think he would shred Donald Trump on a debate stage. He has real courage, which would only amplify Trump's cowardice and lack of integrity.
    
    On the moderate side, Delaney, Klobuchar, and Hickenlooper all performed about the same, to me.
    
    Overall, I don't see any major changes in popularity moving forward, but maybe a cementing of Warren's momentum with Bernie and Pete hanging in there. And maybe one of the moderates moving up?

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    Onusonusposted 4 years ago

    

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       PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Do you have a point?

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          Onusonusposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, stop acting like the Republicans are the only party full of "old white men".

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             PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

             Lol, okay. And what women and/or minorities are leaders in the GOP?

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                Onusonusposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                I'm not a Republican, I don't care about them. Candidates should be based on their merit not how many intersectionality points they can get.

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                   Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                   Sure, it's simply coincidence your silly memes are all anti-Democrat......yeah right! 

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       Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Another misleading stolen meme leaving out half the field. No surprise if you consider the source.....

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          Onusonusposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Oh, who did I miss from Tuesday's debate?

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             Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

             Check the date on your meme, dude. The debate was on the 31st. So you let out half the field in your generalization of the dems. Or whoever you stole it from...

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                Onusonusposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                So you're saying there wasn't a debate on Tuesday? Sure you don't want to go back and check again?

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                   Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                   There was a debate on both days, but you listed only half of those debating as if they were the complete list.
                   
                   And I'd be pleased for you to point out any meme you've ever put out in the Dems favor if you're not a Republican.

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                      Onusonusposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                      Did you read the title of this thread? Maybe you should scroll to the top and see what it says.

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    PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago

    I just realized I said nothing about Beto, probably because I see him as a lightweight. He was better prepared this time, though.

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