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Hurt Me To Hurt You

Updated on June 16, 2017

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One of the most useless
responses one can make
I tend to categorise as
‘Hurt Me To Hurt You.’

This can be envisioned
as a bunch of kids playing
and one decides to sit in the corner.

He sits there to ‘fix’ the other kids, not realising that they couldn’t care less. They are having fun, they don’t even notice he’s sitting in the corner.

For some reason he thinks he is making some a statement, for in his twisted view, he matters far more to them in his own mind then he does in reality.

Few people who practice this kind of behaviour realise that it is less than pointless. If it were only pointless than the practioner would not be the one being punished. For it is a self inflicted punishment which, only in the most deluded of mentalities, effects those he is trying to hurt.

In Older 'children'

This behaviour can be seen in older children and even in adults when in the belief one is hurting another, a particular set of actions are launched.

For example, Geo wants to prove to Stella that he doesn’t need her. He ignores her.

Stella assuming Geo isn’t interested goes away. She goes away and finds someone who is interested.

Geo may feel, for those first moments he is ignoring Stella, that he is evidencing some sort of power and showing control. He has no inkling that Stella makes the perfectly logical assumption that he simply is not or is no longer interested in her.

It is not a problem for Stella. If one were to ask Stella why she didn’t sit with Geo and wait until if/when he noticed her she would honestly answer; “He wasn’t interested in me.”

This is how it appears in the ‘hurt me to hurt you’ paradigm.

Abusive Husband's Reasons

In many cases, this behaviour is the prelude to an aggressive action.

The practioner will sit in the corner and then, when he is unnoticed, angrily rise and maybe provoke a fight.

This provoking of a fight is usually the next step in the ‘Geo’ narrative.

Abusive husbands adopt this practice to give them a reason to go ‘ballistic’. The husband denies himself something he wants so as to ‘fix’ the wife.

The wife isn’t fixed.

She doesn’t notice or recognise...”Husband is denying himself this.... to punish me.”

Angry that Wifey doesn’t respond as ‘expected’ he will say something to her which should provoke a response and give him a ‘reason’ to pummel her.

The idea that she could be totally unaware that he really wanted X but denied himself X to hurt her and she can proceed to enjoy X without him is almost adultery in his mind.

Defining the Behaviour

Once this behaviour is recognised; whether in the child or adult, that is, when a parent can say;

“He is refusing the chocolate to punish me...”

or an adult can say; “He is trying to provoke a confrontation...” all the power is gone.

It becomes a sick comedy in which the person that the practioner is trying to hurt has to fight not to burst out laughing. For it becomes funny, save in the case of the abused wife.

The kid who punishes himself, thinking he’s hurting others needs a quick wake up call. Needs to understand that he is not as special to others as he thinks he is.

This idea of being ‘special’ is a terrible mistake to imbue into a child. For although every child is ‘special’ to his parents, he is not special to other kids or the parents of other kids, or strangers.

The idea that people notice him or care what he does or doesn’t do must be removed so that he will not have the belief that sitting in the corner while others play matters to anyone.

If the child is not aware that he is not the centre of the universe he grows into the adult who thinks others will be hurt if he ignores them, not appreciating that most people are living their own lives.

How It Hurts

What makes this behaviour so destructive is that it produces the opposite of the desired result.

For example, Frank had issues with his parents. He had this entire ‘narrative’ that they didn’t care about him and were self centred.

As an adult, his parents, (who were divorced) tried on separate and various occasions to explain to him what happened and that his ‘narrative’ was wrong.

Frank choosing his ‘hurt me to hurt you’ response shut the door on his parent's attempts to explain or clarify.

He did it when he was a teenager, he did it when he was in his mid twenties, and he did it in his early thirties.

His parents stopped. Stopped bringing their lives to a halt to reason with him. They assumed he 'hated' them and so, went off to live their lives with people who liked them.

Frank was in his mid forties when he suddenly realised he was the kid, sitting in the corner, while everyone else was playing.

His father had gone on to marry again and had children. His mother did the same. They had other children, now grown, whom they visited and spoke with every week.

Some how he realised that he had pushed them away.

Other People

Those who practice this kind of behaviour can often be helped by simply visualising being another person. Imagine being that boy who just threw that basket, or that woman who is being ignored.

Putting one's self in the shoes of another, seeing it from their side is all that it takes for one to abandon this destructive behaviour. Because it is destructive.

It hurts the practioner; and has everyone else shrugging.

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    • dashingscorpio profile image

      dashingscorpio 5 weeks ago

      This type of behavior is often used by adults and called the "silent treatment". People seem to believe by not speaking to someone that hurts them. That only works if that individual has no life or other people they can enjoy time with.

      Not long ago one HP writer wrote a hub stating the "silent treatment" is a form of abuse. My way of thinking is if someone acts like they don't want to be around me I will leave them be.

      I'm not going to beg or plead for them to open up towards me.

      Thankfully there are over (7 Billion) other people!

      One man's opinion! :)

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      qeyler 5 weeks ago

      Dashingscorpio... yeah... that's one of the minor aspects. The joke is, today, where most people are on their phones, I doubt anyone would even notice you were being silent.

      Someone would have to care a lot about you to notice and be hurt because you weren't talking to them.

      I can think of a number of situations I have been in and witnessed when someone walked up to another with this ..."I didn't come to your party because..." or ..."I haven't spoke to Jen since January..." or anything like that and the person looks so embarrassed...admiting...'I didn't notice...'

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      dashingscorpio 5 weeks ago

      Very true!

      Most people are too busy with their own lives to be noticing who didn't show up at their party. Lets face when we die the sun will rise and the world will keep on turning!

      I don't believe in on again/off again relationships and friendships. When I'm gone I'm really gone and could care less if the other person notices or is hurt by it. Life is no "game".

      From my perspective it seems like (women) in particular seem to have more "drama" and heartache in their friendships because they expect more out of them than men do from theirs.

      Guys pretty much do not tread into deep emotional bonding areas and therefore don't require a lot from their male friends. We keep things fairly light: sports, current events, planned activities and so forth. Having drinks and sharing laughs about the past...etc

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      qeyler 5 weeks ago

      Oddly; it has been, in my circle, the males who are more likely to do the 'Hurt Me To Hurt You' assuming they are so significant in another person's life. Women may create a more emotional drama where males do the 'strong silent' .

      If a woman were to sit in the corner, for example, she'd be a 'wall flower' considered shy. If a man did it people would assume he wasn't interested.

      It's a very useless kind of 'protest' for most people don't notice. Which, in the mind of the practioner is not realised...

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