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Tenth Planet

Updated on September 25, 2012

Last Sunday, there was this article in Hindu talking about a Tenth planet on horoscopes. In Hindu Arranged Marriages, matching horoscopes of bride and groom is a major process undertaken ceremoniously by parents. In the article, they were discussing about how the groom was considered a tenth planet as the planets' position determined the fate of the person! The author had ended the article with a note that, nowadays, the brides are only to be considered as the Tenth Planet and not the groom!

This seemed to be a very valid point, being a woman myself! The cultural shift has made women very independent. This in turn seems to have many many consequences! Of late, I see a lot of moral questions are being raised by people with my mindset on the integrity of women, that have no answers!

It is really tough to find a suitable bride for eligible bachelors these days. Girls seem to have endless demands which include even changing the name of the groom! Values seem to be deteriorating a lot in general especially among women.

There is a famous saying in my mother tongue which says, its the saree which is torn be it falling on a thorn or the thorn falling on the saree. When God created Men, he created certain characteristics and over a period of time, this has not changed much, values were never intact for them from the beginning. But, to keep the society intact God created women with more values, integrity and sense of protection, this seems to be sliding down rapidly nowadays - thanks to the much hyped equality between men and women!

Equality can be achieved only between two identical creations and definitely not between men and women. Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus indeed!

The point here is, freedom for women was indeed required but how much, is the question! Women had to come out of the kitchen, get educated and learn about the outside world, but never cross certain limits - the way of dressing, the way of socializing, the way they misunderstand men and end up in a ditch eventually!

Divorce rate has gone up mainly due to this change in attitude of women. Men are always men and they cannot be changed and if women remain to be women, there is no problem!

There are still men who are chauvinists and still ruin their better half's life, only the count is decreasing, which is a positive trend! Of course, this does not mean men have to ill-treat women or disrespect them. Its about knowing each others' strengths and weaknesses and acting accordingly.

After all, planets in the horoscope cause positive things to happen as well and the Tenth Planet is no exception, be it the groom or bride!

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      Haritha 5 years ago

      Purely MY perception.

      Adding a disclaimer has become a must these days without which my take for the above could have been worse. It sounds very much like the author of this article has extra sensory perceptions. Its quite astounding to know that GOD came down directly to her and told her about his/her (GOD neednt be MALE) unequal creation. "Men never change" as the article suggest and "Women keep changing for the worse" as the author quite insensitively suggests, I would like to humbly add women are just trying to claim back their lost rights which just faded over time(Remember ADAM and EVE story which suggests EVE had more influence than ADAM). Women are Women's biggest enemies, not MEN. I am sure many would agree to it. A simple piece of cloth has these days become a defining factor of a WOMEN's character. How much more shallow can the society get. Women have prying eyes all over, someone evaluating her every move, her character every single minute. Its not someone's crime or fate to be born a Women. It is her life and she get just one chance to live it. Nobody has any rights to define a way a person(man or woman) has to live. There are enough moral polices around and please don't add yourself to that list. I am proud to have been born a Women.

      PS: I hope criticism will be treated in the right spirit here. After all what is life without it. I could be wrong for another person with another perception.

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      najmu 5 years ago

      I liked the article, it is understood that neither planets or stars can do anything to our happy match making.. it is just a superstitious belief.. which is contradictory to saying that marriages are made in heaven.. then why depend on planets and stars.. GOD knows the best... my reply below is to the comment above...

      "Remember ADAM and EVE story which suggests EVE had more influence than ADAM)"

      -to be precise it is EVE had influence on ADAM, for which they ate the forbidden fruit on EVE's say to ADAM. To add another point here, the shaitan(the evil spirit) went to EVE and convinced her. Do you know why he went to EVE ? because Girls are the foolish/studpid people on earth.. they get influenced by what they see.. by what they hear... but hardly they think out of their brains..

      "Nobody has any rights to define a way a person(man or woman) has to live".

      - Yes no one has rights.. But GOD has all the rights.. thats why he asked us even what to eat and what not to eat.. even to first ADAM and EVE.. we are no exceptions..

      " I would like to humbly add women are just trying to claim back their lost rights which just faded over time"

      - yes may be they lost some rights over time.. But doesnot mean that they forget the moral values.. yes ofcourse both men and women should cross limits..

      thanks.. i like the last statement about the criticism :P

      :D

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      Haritha 5 years ago

      I don't know if the above person is a man or a woman. I in fact don't know if it is a real name.

      Anyways that apart. It was good to know that u only liked the last sentence in my comment.

      Now seems like one more person has real close contact with god. @Above could u please connect me to the GOD who comes down directly to you and tell you all of the above?

      Anyway I find it ATROCIOUS and UNACCEPTABLE to call woman FOOLISH and STUPID. It was a criticism about the article in good spirit and the author is fine with it. You are most welcome to criticize my comment. But you dare not call women names.

      I hope you keep the thread in the very same spirit. Its somebody else's article you are taking attention from. Remember that.

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      Disillusioned 5 years ago from Kerala, India

      Hi Haritha,

      Women are emotional creatures. By a strong push of ambitious motives, a woman can swing from good to bad or bad to good with very little calibrated stop in between. In the same way, a woman can love or hate the same person with same intensity based on circumstances that lead them to. Of course there will always be exceptions, but mostly it is the reality of God's creation.

      So, when a woman wants to go ahead at breakneck speed on matters of freedom, equality with men, freedom of choice (including indulgence in premarital sex, post marital "friedly affairs", "accepting the burden of motherhood") and so on, they end up many times in emotional accidents! They suffer inside emotionally, but perhaps they may still show a very brave "successful woman" face to the outside world, prompted and prodded by their ego.

      What Deepika is pointing out as a woman, very appreciably is this reality; what she seems to be genuinely concerned about is the need for taking due care of the breaks while the accelerator is being pressed more obsessively by the present day woman!

      C.V.Rajan

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      najmu 5 years ago

      Dear Mydam, FYI..Iam Man...:D and its my name..:D and sorry you felt offended with my comment.. you only started about ADAM and EVE.. i just elaborated it, which is already told in the books and scriptures..

      "Now seems like one more person has real close contact with god. @Above could u please connect me to the GOD who comes down directly to you and tell you all of the above?"

      -to this comment, it looks like you dont believe in GOD or u hav lost belief in GOD. I dont know what made you think this way...But I can only suggest please find time to read your own scriptures... beocz this is the only way to know GOD (the creator)...and what is forbidden and what is not forbidden..

      ....and iam sorry for this comment "call woman FOOLISH and STUPID".

      I would like to correct not all woman, but many woman..

      they get influenced with things sooner than man..I dont have statistics though ;)

      BTW,lets not forget who ate the forbidden fruit first..it was EVE, then gave it to ADAM.. :P

      to conclude here, doesnt matter what gender, satan(the evil spirit) provokes the human (whether male or female) for the forbidden things.. whoever has more sincerity and yearning for the love of GOD will obey his orders..temptations are always there, men get tempted when they see ***... and women for different reasons... May GOD(the creator) protect us ALL from ALL the evils..

      and i apologise to the author, as the topic here is about the "tenth planet" it has deviated from the actual article on the tenth planet...should we have to debate more, then separate thread should be fine..

      thanks,

      Bye...

      md.najmu@gmail.com

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      Disillusioned 5 years ago from Kerala, India

      Najmu,

      Interesting observations and analysis.

      Haritha,

      I thought this article will be of interest to you: http://www.helium.com/items/1392441-monogamy-natur...

      C.V.Rajan

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      Deepika Arun 5 years ago from Chennai, India

      @Haritha:

      Well, even without the disclaimer, I am sure its just my opinion, for that instance, any author!

      Coming to your comments, well I am sure God does not come down for telling many obvious things like difference between day and night, difference between edible and non edible things, including the difference between men and women.

      It will be quite obvious to you that Men have not changed over a period of time with respect to culture, you can discuss about this with your father maybe! At least, my father is of that opinion! Whereas women, have definitely changed.A simple piece of cloth indeed matters a lot, after all you cannot stay without it!

      I accept that women are women's biggest enemies. Only the way they have become enemies in the current day scenario is different. If a peer girl dresses up differently or treats her better half differently, the other girl tends to do the same! This is definitely an act of enemity according to me.

      I do not have to say why women have prying enemies all over, that is how god has created their physique,and women indeed draw attention for that very reason!

      FYI, I am proud to be a woman too, infact to be one with still morals and culture intact. You can be mad at me if I question why women have to get a degree in engineering or why they should go for a job - it is not about all that, it is beyond that.

      As C.V.Rajan clearly points out this article is about the need for taking due care of the brakes to avoid fatal accidents!

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      Deepika Arun 5 years ago from Chennai, India

      @najmu,

      I am glad that you apologized for calling girls stupid/foolish! The intent of this article is not to degrade women in any way, being a woman myself.

      And yeah, I agree about your influence of SATAN on both men and women! Only the influence seems to be more on women these days!

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      Haritha 5 years ago

      Me again. It was quite interesting to read different views here. I still cannot accept GOD being a "HIM" ALWAYS. India is still is a male dominated society and anything good happening in the country is done by "HIM" and all the bad name is brought upon by "HER”. We have a GODDESS of wealth and GODDESS of education. I don't understand these double standards.

      @Deepika

      These moral values that you talk about are defined by MEN not by GOD. And they just differ from person to person and from country to country. What is right for you may not hold relevance in another part of the world. This clearly explains that all these boundaries are MANMADE and are subject to change. You may not see the same set of values that you are talking about some 30-40 years down the line. That’s evolution, man/woman evolves and so does everything associated with him/her.

      Regarding the cloth debate. Nobody in their right senses would suggest not sporting clothes. It is essential and the whole world carries the same opinion. In fact it is against the law and I am a law abiding citizen of the World. Do you mean to say the person inside the cloth doesn't matter, -let him/her be a well dressed MORAL CRIMINAL? This is exactly what I am trying to explain by urging people to not to attach all you values to a piece of cloth. And rephrasing your sentence- "A simple piece of cloth indeed matters a lot, after all YOU cannot stay without it!" - Try to replace YOU with ONE or else I could take it personal.

      Quoting you:

      "It will be quite obvious to you that Men have not changed over a period of time with respect to culture, you can discuss about this with your father maybe!"

      Opinions differ from person to person. I may not have the same opinion as my father. I want to take full responsibility for all my opinions. At least that’s how my FATHER wants me to be.

      Once again I don’t agree to the statement of men not having changed over time. I hear about men abusing infants and toddlers sexually which were quite unheard of in the epics and stories I have known. Is that also not a part of moral values and culture? Is only woman’s dressing and isolated cases of adultery the only factors defining a society’s moral values?

      And I am not MAD at you. I am just voicing my displeasure.

      @C.V Rajan

      I read the blog you had suggested. Firstly it was well written and thoughts well conveyed. I dint have a chance for a second opinion. Salutations!

      I have a question to you Sir. What do we always have to talk about adultery or clothes when we talk about a woman? Are these the ONLY factors defining a woman’s character? What about people committing all the other forms of crimes? Are they not a part of the immoral activities”? Have we fallen as shallow as a society on the whole? Nobody here is suggesting ANYBODY to indulge in any sort of illegal activity (all of the above mentioned forms of adultery are against the law). My only concern is, why should a woman be burdened in every possible angle? If the woman is responsible for her kid’s, her families and the society’s moral values, economic growth of the nation (we are paying our taxes as well) other mundane activities, what exactly is a man’s role in the society other than framing rules and regulations for women, contributing to the economy and most importantly helping a woman bear a child. Can’t a man be ever held accountable/liable for the moral face of the society?

      @ Father –Daughter duo

      It would also be interesting to know from where you look up for references. Do share your research materials if they aren’t confidential :)

      Cheers!

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      Deepika Arun 5 years ago from Chennai, India

      @Haritha:

      My article is definitely not about GODbeing HIM or HER! India is not as male dominated as it was a few years ago!

      Well if you say that moral values are defined by MEN, why was it not defined by WOMEN, the simple answer is GOD wanted it that way, hence the difference between MEN and WOMEN!

      I recommend you to read Mahabharath, not the censored one but the original, preferrably, MAHABHARATAM pesugiradhu by Cho, if you know to read Tamil. This will help you to know about the moral standards of men and women in a previous yuga!

      I am not exactly sure why you take things so personally! I did not mean that ONE (even the use of "YOU" meant one and not exactly YOU!) should roam without clothes, but the way some girls dress in public is indeed not very good to see! As C.V. Rajan rightly points out women are emotional and you prove him right!

      I only asked you to ask your father's opinion and not asked you to have the same opinion!

      I think the media's growth plays a major role in bringing out the different realities that could have happened earlier but never got exposed! I am sure it is not "ISOLATED" cases of adultery nowadays with women, they are much more than that actually.

      You can very well voice your displeasure and I will counter your statements time and again!

      I am sure C.V.Rajan will come up with answers to your questions though even I have answers for them!

      As far as my answer to your question on references, I do not think there is a need for any research material, it is enough you look around and see the difference, atleast I am able to see a lot of difference in the past 5- 6 years!

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      najmu 5 years ago

      @Deepika/Haritha: My intention to say women as foolish/stupid was only referring to the influence of satan on them..

      else we all know, girls have always topped in all exams :P .. they have equally excelled all fields... :D

      women who lead professional and personal life..and keep a balance between them..hats off to all those women in this world.. :D

      @Rajan Sir: I totally agree with Haritha on male dominated society.. I disagree with your first statement (with respect)

      "So, when a woman wants to go ahead at breakneck speed on matters of freedom, equality with men, freedom of choice (including indulgence in premarital sex"

      This gives an impression that men have freedom to do the adultery..and women should not compete it in anyway..

      But the fact is it is forbidden for both men and women...

      I also read your article.. even like Haritha, wanted to request you to quote/references things from the scriptures rather put our own opinion..

      i understand your experience speaks more than enough than the quotes.. but God is all knowing and he knows the best..

      always quote/references will have additional weightage.. as i believe it is a direct word of God..

      I have collected some of the quotes/references, which shall be of interesting indeed !

      Islam totally forbids adultery and also those things that lead to it. Allah says:

      "And do not come near to adultery, for it is a shameful deed and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)" (al-Isra, 32).

      when he said this, he dint mention that adultery can be done by men and not by women.. it is irrespective of gender,caste and creed..

      some of quotes i have taken from the scriptures...this message is especially for All MEN...including me :P :D

      1) Jareer ibn Abdullaah said:

      "I asked the Messenger of Allaah (pbuh) about an accidental glance at a woman. He commanded me to turn my gaze away."

      (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, who said: This is a saheeh hasan hadeeth. See al-Sunan, 2700).

      2) The Messenger of Allaah (pbuh) said:

      "O Ali, do not follow a glance with another, for you will be forgiven for the first, but not for the second." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 2701; see Saheeh al-Jaami, 7953)

      3) Allaah says in Quran: [al-Noor 24:30]

      "Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts). That is purer for them. Verily, Allaah is All-Aware of what they do"

      4)The clothes should not look like that of the opposite sex.

      Al-Bukhari, al-Tirmidhi, al-Nisa’i, Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah reported on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas that he said,“Allah’s Messenger has cursed the women acting like men and the men acting like women.”

      5)Hadith - Sunan of Abu Dawood, Narrated AbuJurayy Jabir ibn Salim al-Hujaymi

      The Prophet saaws said, "Have your lower garment halfway down your shin; if you cannot do it, have it up to the ankles. Beware of trailing the lower garment, for it is conceit and Allah does not like conceit."

      6)The Messenger of Allah (saw) also said to Hudhayfah when he had his thigh uncovered, “Do not reveal your thigh nor look at anybody else’s thigh, whether he is alive or dead.”

      And he said to Mu‘mar when he passed him by with both his (Mu‘mar’s) thighs uncovered, “O Mu‘mar! Cover your thighs; the thigh is ‘awrah.”

      When we see the above quotes, God has not only put rules on women but has put most difficult rules to men aswell.

      God is not in favor to any one to do adultery or anything he/she wishes to..

      For God, all men and women are equal in his eyes..

      For God, people of all sections irrespective of poor, rich, religion, caste, creed are equal.

      Ofcourse its male dominated society..who talks about these above rules..Yes, men forget their own rules especially on cloth...and command the women of the society..

      to conclude here again "May GOD(the creator) protect us ALL from ALL the evils.." Ameen !!

      hadakallah !

      thanks,

      najmu.

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      najmu 5 years ago

      conclusion forgot to mention...YES both MEN and WOMEN are changing very fast with times..especially interms of adultery..getting influenced with west very fast..which is not a good sign for any society.. I also agree with Deepika, that "it is enough you look around and see the difference, atleast I am able to see a lot of difference in the past 5- 6 years!" I think we all can see this change..

      May God save our culture and values.. Both Men and Women should care and think about it, rather point fingers and try dominate..:)

      thanks!

      najmu

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      Haritha 5 years ago

      @Deepika

      Oh ho ho! A lot of unwarranted & provocative sentences I see in your reply.

      I am sorry for the tone of the following reply, but it was asked for.

      “Well if you say that moral values are defined by MEN, why was it not defined by WOMEN, the simple answer is GOD wanted it that way, hence the difference between MEN and WOMEN!”

      Exactly the kind of prejudice. You have been quoting GOD on almost every sentence. Just quote one line reference from anywhere, where GOD actually said this. You could rather say, it was YOUR INTERPRATATION of GOD. I don’t interpret GOD the same way. My GOD says just one thing to me, “Do as you like with a conscience and as long as you don’t hurt another fellow being”.

      “I recommend you to read Mahabharath, not the censored one but the original, preferrably, MAHABHARATAM pesugiradhu by Cho, if you know to read Tamil. This will help you to know about the moral standards of men and women in a previous yuga!”

      Whether I know to read Tamil or not is nobody’s business. You could just stop with your recommendation. I would make my sincere efforts.

      “I am not exactly sure why you take things so personally! I did not mean that ONE (even the use of "YOU" meant one and not exactly YOU!) should roam without clothes, but the way some girls dress in public is indeed not very good to see! As C.V. Rajan rightly points out women are emotional and you prove him right!”

      Because the tone of your reply has been so. Women are emotional beings is not Mr. C.V Rajan’s (with all due respect) discovery. He was simply quoting what he read elsewhere. So I have no business in proving anybody right or wrong.

      “I only asked you to ask your father's opinion and not asked you to have the same opinion!”

      When I am addressing you I only expect a responsible reply from you and not my Dad.

      “I think the media's growth plays a major role in bringing out the different realities that could have happened earlier but never got exposed! I am sure it is not "ISOLATED" cases of adultery nowadays with women, they are much more than that actually.”

      I have written about it in length in my previous comment. You simply chose to ignore my comment partially. You still haven’t answered many of my previous queries. You seem rather interested in making this a personal attack.

      “You can very well voice your displeasure and I will counter your statements time and again!”

      THIS VERY CLEARLY SHOWS THAT YOU HAVE NOT BEEN INTERESTED IN ANSWERING MY QUERIES. YOU SEEM MORE THAN INTERESTED IN COUNTERING THEM EVEN IF THEY MAKE SENSE RATHER THAN RATIONALLY EVELUATING THE CRITICISM.

      “I am sure C.V.Rajan will come up with answers to your questions though even I have answers for them!”

      Good to know that you can answer all the questions.

      “As far as my answer to your question on references, I do not think there is a need for any research material, it is enough you look around and see the difference, at least I am able to see a lot of difference in the past 5- 6 years!”

      I am not blind; I do see a lot of good and bad differences in the Indian society. However famous Indian mentality of typecasting and blaming women for everything remains.

      Newborn girl children are being killed every minute in the country, isn’t that a cultural failure? It pains me to read about such heinous crimes being meted out to women, despite sitting some thousands of miles away from my country.

      All I wanted was a rational debate, which could have taken interesting dimensions with both sides getting to know new things. But I was wrong; this seems to be some sort of a “you win/I win” game. I am way grown up for such games.

      All the best for your future blogs!

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      Deepika Arun 5 years ago from Chennai, India

      @haritha

      I am not really sure why you still seem to take things too personally!

      Anyway what is unwanted to you need not be unwanted to me!

      And I am sure I answered all your so called "Queries"!

      I hope you are rationally evaluatind my comments too, about you knowing to read Tamil or not was not a provocative statement, but just a comment, as many do not know to read tamil and I don even know who you are or which place you belong to, and hence the comment!

      Rational Debate should come from both the ends, till now I never took anything you said personally, but since you seem to be WAY TOO GROWN UP, you obviously think, you are RIGHT!

      Thanks for your wishes, I will continue to write definitely!

      Goodbye!

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      Disillusioned 5 years ago from Kerala, India

      Aha!

      There is nothing more joyous for me than to see a debate where tempers rise high!

      Normally, after a debate, most of us end up with a stronger conviction about our own beliefs and frames of mind, with very little absorption or accommodation of an opposing point of view!

      So, the net benefit is a good time-pass. Please continue. More arguments please!

      C.V.

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      Disillusioned 5 years ago from Kerala, India

      Haritha,

      About your penchant for references.

      Here is a little story from Ramakrishna Paramahamsa:

      A man said very excitedly to his friend "Yesterday, I saw a house falling in Wellington Street right in front of my eyes"

      His friend immediately ran into the house, looked into the news paper from beginning to end, came back and declared: "It is not reported in the news papers; So, I can't believe you!"

      C.V.

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      Disillusioned 5 years ago from Kerala, India

      Haritha,

      Here is something from my side to add fuel to the fire:

      http://www.helium.com/items/1273250-the-relevance-...

      C.V.

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      najmu 5 years ago

      The debate here is going interesting! and are also getting personal. so i didnot want to continue but Rajan sir asked for more questions/arguments for a meaningful debate in a right spirit.

      @sir,

      i read your article,very well written... this really gives differences or major responsibilities that men and women share..

      but somewhere it suggests women to not to compete with anything which men can do! article has compared a painter and a musician..monkey and a deer..

      It suggests painter should not try to become a musician or musician should not try to become a painter.. i understand deer cant become monkey and vice-versa.. but painter and musician ??

      Monkey and deer are two different creatures! and music and painting are two different arts! anyone would agree painter can be a musician or musician can also be a painter..

      I understand it wanted to convey men cannot be women or viceversa.. But it doesnot mean that women should not come out of the kitchen or house to carry out their passions ?

      However, the debate on this thread has really lost with the points like, the moral values are told/talked only put upon women..

      why no one talks about or put upon men ? why do society needs a modest men/women ? Is it a male dominated society ? Has God wanted this way ?

      taking some sentences from this debate

      “Well if you say that moral values are defined by Men, why was it not defined by WOMEN, the simple answer is GOD wanted it that way, hence the difference between MEN and WOMEN!”

      "So, when a woman wants to go ahead at breakneck speed on matters of freedom, equality with men, freedom of choice (including indulgence in premarital sex...."

      "God made the man an irresponsible seed-giver and the woman the responsible nurturer of the sapling".

      First of all, God defined moral values..and Men interpreted it for women and forgetting theirs..TRUE??

      And yes when God created he made Men physically strong and women physically weak.

      Yes he shared few responsibilities with men and few with women, Buttt he didnot make Men an irresponsible seed giver ?

      This is absolutely wrong statement(with respect).

      article was concluded by saying, "This motherly love and the sense of loyalty has the power to tie the irresponsible male to get tied to a committed relationship in a family."

      then why does most Men look upon another beautiful or other women :P, was his lady's love was less?? or she was not loyal?? which is true ?

      why do society needs a modest men/women ?

      http://www.yourworldtoday.ca/wp-content/uploads/20...

      Women when reveals her skin, we talk about her culture and nature and society and also watch her with an open mouth :P..

      but when the same women when she gets raped we blame the rapist.. Why are these double standards ?

      Any women of any age with any dress can get raped anytime (exceptions)..God has also defined set of rules to men as well..references in my previous comment.. All that is required is quality moral education to MEN aswell :)

      For the last question, yes it is a male dominated society.. and may be becoz of physical and emotional strength that God has given to men.. it is natural that can never change..

      But this should not make or feel women oppressed because of nature or the soceity..

      So, Men should be the binding force for womens emotional stregnth. So, Men should be the binding force for womens success in their passions..

      this is the message should be conveyed.. I think God may also wants this way...

      As i mentioned in my earlier comment: May God save our culture and values.. Both Men and Women should care and think about it, rather point fingers and try dominate..:)

      Concluding with the beautiful line from the author itself "Its about knowing each others' strengths and weaknesses and acting accordingly."

      Lets not take anything personal.. i hope ...:)

      Bye!

      najmu..

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      Disillusioned 5 years ago from Kerala, India

      Najmu,

      Hats off to your fine capacity for analyzing the subject and coming out with neat counter points!

      I would put it this way: God has made men with their set of idiosyncrasies and women with another set of idiosyncrasies and he kept aloof to enjoy the bickering of the sexes for one-upmanship or for getting an even play! The fight and entertainment will go on for ever!

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      najmu 5 years ago

      sir, credit goes to the Holy Quran, that i read there on the similar topic recently and also it is your greatness and humbleness that you read and understood and accepted the message with an open heart. i also hope i too follow the message :P :D..God help us All..

      thanks! najmu.

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      Disillusioned 5 years ago from Kerala, India

      Najmu,

      I went through some of your quotes from Islam in detail again and quite interesting! They were all for men! You see, there is quite some cultural differences from sect to sect, nation to nation, climate to climate etc.

      In rural India, particularly in regions where temperature is high, village men will do work in the fields with just a loin cloth. Great saints of yester years who renounce everything used to go around with just a loin cloth.

      I just can't imagine rural woman getting excited to see men's theighes! May be Allah's guidelines apply to Arab men only!

      C.V.

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      OTEE 4 years ago from India

      @Deepika - this seems to be a post that has brought about a lot of debate.

      This is my opinion before going through the discussion (comment) thread.

      I do not agree with your perception of the role and responsibilities of men and women as set out in this post. I will present my view in a while, give me some time to organize my thoughts.

      Please, please do read the posts of Sowmya aka GB on gender: http://mediumboss.wordpress.com/category/gender/

      She is one of my favorite bloggers. And also please, please, please read her posts with an OPEN mind.

      I'd also like to have your honest opinion (feedback) after reading some of her posts.

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      OTEE 4 years ago from India

      I believe that roles and responsibilities (of men/women) change over time depending upon the prevailing societal norms. In my opinion, women's freedom means having the freedom of choice, to what they want to do without having somebody imposing on them a set of guidelines on what to do and how to it. In that sense I believe that women in India still do not have that freedom, decisions are still made for them.

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