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8 Reasons Why Atheists Are Against Christianity

Updated on September 12, 2015

Quick look at Christianity

There's Christianity, and there's Christianity. Just like there's love and love. Two different things that people give the same title. There's actual love, where it’s about a deep care for a person; and then there's the love that every couple clings on to after the first date, make big promises about, and tarnish it later. Here's the catch: genuine love doesn't break or bend. The copied versions do. Enough about love..

Christianity and Christianity: Christianity that stems from what Christ taught is based purely on love. (The genuine kind) There's a verse explaining that kind of love somewhere in the Bible. Christianity is a faith expressed through love. Love for God, and love for your neighbor. It is in fact the greatest commandment. That's what Christianity is meant to be. Christians who practice it form the true Church. A church based on objective truths.

And then there's the Christianity everyone is familiar with. It takes many forms. Sometimes it’s based on subjective truths to amass money for the leaders at the top, other times it's a social construct used to control the masses. It's the religion that people rise up against, and the religion that fights back.

So why are atheists really against Christianity? A couple of reasons, I’ll list some:

1. Only know of the false church

They've been introduced to the farce that calls itself Christianity. The kind that gives you all the reasons in the world why you're "not successful in life because you give little offerings" or "God's blessings in your life are determined by how many times you recite a prayer" etc...

Seriously, this "gospel of prosperity" is really deviating people from the fundamentals of the kingdom of God. Christ Himself told people that they should store up riches in heaven. Anyone can use logic to argue about what this kind of church teaches. Some atheists do, hence turn away from Christianity. I don't blame them there, after all, they've been misled on what Christianity is really about.

2. Anger towards God

They are angry with God. They either blame Him for a something that happened in their lives, or something they wanted Him to do, but He didn't do. Your country is at war, maybe you lost a baby (miscarriage), you had an accident, you were raped, your business empire collapsed, your parents divorced, etc. Some things are big, you had no control over them, and it's hard to come into terms with what happened. If God was real, He should have made things better, He should have cured your dying sibling, He should have stopped them from bombing the school that your kid goes to...etc. God let's things happen for a reason. I can't speak for you at an individual level, but if you look closely at your life, there's a reason why something happened. Sometimes God allows people to get into trouble because it's the only way they'll turn to Him, other times as a test of their faith, etc. Most true Christians come out of these life tries with their faith in God strengthened and renewed.

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3. God doesn't meet their expectations

They are disappointed in God. That guy is a tyrant and he's successful, and this guy is a strong believer in God, yet he lives in under a bridge and sleeps hungry. Where is his God? Why doesn't God stop all the fighting? There are two things here: One, understand that God does not control anybody's will, unless you subject yours to His. Man's very first gift after creation was that of free will. God won't take it back because you use it wrongly. Secondly, when you have left God and are set in your evil ways, yet your life is terrific, you have wool over your eyes. Sometimes the enemy makes you feel very comfortable, that you don't want to change your ways. "It's like a prison that's so comfy you don't want to leave." When that prison door closes, you won't be able to leave.

4. The thin wall of "Science"

Atheists really like pulling out the "Science" card. Yes, it's science in quotes. I'll explain. Here's how science generally works: You start off with a hypothesis/theory. You test it. The result will either approve what you have to be a fact, or tell you to look elsewhere. You can't refute facts. But you can disapprove a theory. Facts are objective truths. They stand for and defend themselves. People get caught up in the web of facts and theories, label it "Science", and swear by it. The scientific process throws a lot of theories to the curb, and only a very few theories come to fruition.

Here's the catch- scientific facts don't contradict God. But a theory, no matter how valid or what top-notch scientist said it, is still a theory. Take evolution for example. It's the theory of evolution. That doesn't mean some facts about it aren't true- like the passing of traits through the DNA. But don't get the proven science facts to rubber stamp the entire theory of evolution. Like aspects that order, harmony and balance are created from disorder, while simple facts like the law of entropy negate that.

5. They don't want to be told what they do is wrong

This one is easy. This class of atheists just wants the rest of the world to back off and let them enjoy their worldly pressures free of judgement.

6. Idiocy

Forgive the term but a spade is a spade. Some people get themselves into problems and blame God. You skip classes, don't study for tests, fail the exam, and say there's no God in the universe. You jump off a roof, break a leg, and suddenly God is not fair to you. You sleep around, get herpes, and then say that if there's a God, he just doesn't love you. You just need to get your act together.

7. The logical ones

They are really searching for the truth. No issue here. If one is really searching for the truth, one way or another they'll end up at Christ. No need to push them. They will find the way. Anyone who is looking will see it.

8. The driver's seat is mine

It’s scary letting go and letting someone else take control over your life. Trust issues, that's understandable, but only when it happens with another person. Here, one forgets that they can really trust God.

Final thoughts...

God gave you a gift- Free will. He will not take it back. The choice you make, it will be up to you. No one can force you to make a choice on what to believe. Because then it won't be in truth or in spirit. God is abundant in love and mercy. He is also just. God does not want to chain you into worshiping Him. He wants you to do it because you know Him.

People have been invited to salvation in a way that makes it seem they are doing God a favor just by believing in Him. Salvation is the greatest gift you can choose for yourself. Ask yourself what will matter more to you when you're just a few breaths away from death- will it be where you're coming from, what you did, or where you're going?

When you choose Christ, the world will think of you as foolish. You will be mocked, insulted and even cursed. Don't worry. In fact, be glad. Because the blessings are rewards that are in store for you are simply great.


True Christianity is not the religion. It is a gospel of faith. Faith expressed through love.

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      Barine Sambaris 21 months ago from Nigeria

      Interesting hub. At a point in my life I came to a conclusion that God doesn't exist or he just doesn't care, having lost a sister and father in the space of two years. Nos 2,3 and 7 were my biggest challenge and points against God. At a point I took up no 8, I wanted to be in charge of my own life, I didn't want to be at the mercy of a God who didn't care. Sometimes I still find myself struggling but I've decided to look at the little blessings that shows he exists and does care. If we look carefully, sometimes God comes in the form of a still small voice and a peace of heart during storms.

      It is sometimes difficult to conveniently answer questions like, why would a loving God threaten us with fire and brimstone if we do not accept him, or why did he kill everyone on Noah's ark- women and children inclusive? Why is there so much violence condoned by God in the Bible? These and many more are the questions atheists throw at us every now and them. I do not claim to know the working of God's mind, hell, I even have questions of my own, but his ways are above ours. Our righteousness is like a filthy rag before him. All we have to do is listen to his directions for our life. This is for those who believe, because who don't will see tons of inconsistencies with what I've just written.

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      Catherine Giordano 22 months ago from Orlando Florida

      I am an atheist and I am not angry at God. I have simply applied reason to the topic and concluded he does not exist. How could I be angry at an entity that does not exist.

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      stella vadakin 23 months ago from 3460NW 50 St Bell, Fl32619

      Hi, Just wanted to tell you this is a very interesting article. I believe in Jesus. My thought is that people have the right to believe what they want. We all need to respect each other and let it go. Stella

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      Hi MizBejabbers (cool name by the way)....I loved reading through your hub..and you're right "....the teachings of Christ were like onions – in many layers, from little children’s understanding to learning so esoteric that I am still working on it....".

      Are you a Christian? If you believe in and accept Christ, yes, you are. From there it's how you mature as a Christian. That's where coming together with other Christians comes in. "To help and encourage each other." The rules and regulations different churches have are for order (though truthfully some are misleading). I believe everyone should study the scriptures and understand the Word of God at a personal level.

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      MizBejabbers 2 years ago

      VationSays, this is very interesting. My father was an atheist, and he never gave me any reason for his belief or lack of. The only logic I can see is that he was a follower of John Scopes. I've written on growing up in a household with him and with a Christian mother.

      You summed real followers of Christ up perfectly in your second paragraph on Love. I left the church a long time ago because I found a spirituality that allowed me to be me without having to sit through Sunday rituals and Tuesday night visitation. When churchy people ask me now if I am a Christian, I don't know how to answer. I am not their brand of "Christian" but I am a free-spirited follower of Christ, love, and the spirit.

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      Hi Carolyn! Thanks for the feedback. Really appreciate it...and true, we are saved by grace alone.

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      Hi Buildreps! I'd like to respond to the issue about the love of of God and shooting animals with crossbows. Animals were created for the benefit of man. We are allowed to hunt for food. However, when it comes to sport-hunting, it's a little of a grey area. It comes down to what one feels.

      I read this somewhere and it made sense: "It is not against God's will to catch, kill, and use animals for food. Nor is it wrong to kill predators. David killed a lion and a bear that menaced his sheep (I Samuel 17:34-36).

      Of course, this does not mean that game should be killed indiscriminately or recklessly. It is repulsive to see some hunters kill merely for the sake of gaining a trophy, the antlers of a deer or an elk, for example, and leave the rest of the carcass to rot. Such irresponsible actions are wrong.

      On the other hand, the humane culling of herds of deer, bison, and other such animals is necessary and merciful conservation of nature.(Conservationists would all agree that sport hunting is valuable in keeping the population of some animals in check.)"

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      Carolyn Fields 2 years ago from the USA

      I enjoyed reading your hub. Then I got to the comments . . . wow. You certainly stirred up a lot of passion. That's basically good. It can make you crazy, however. I only skimmed the comments, and I'm already tired.

      Anyway, God is love, and Christ is love. We are saved by grace alone. There is no need for ritual and dogma. I agree that "religion" as practiced today can turn a lot of people "off." Also the part about not wanting to be "told" what to do. Some people just want to do what feels good to them, and ignore the impact on other people. These people will reject Christianity for this reason alone.

      Anyway, thank you for this hub. And stay strong.

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      Buildreps 2 years ago from Europe

      Thanks for following, VationSays. I do not agree with Abrahamists and not with Atheists (the 'scientists'). This position is confusing for most people. I believe that from mainstream religions (including the irrational scientists) the Taoists are closest to the ultimate truth.

      What I do not understand is the way how you confuse the love of God (in this Hub) and shooting animals with crossbows (in another Hub). That is confusing for me. How do you merge these two things?

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      GlendaGoodWitch 2 years ago from California

      Very sad that atheists have come up with excuses to hate the most charitable group of people in the world. All people who live in the United States have benefited from Christianity all their lives and have no idea.

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      JK Southard 2 years ago from USA

      To VS...I have been searching (Matt. 7:7) yet finding different outcomes now than I found 60 years ago; and today different from yours in some ways. Just adjusting blindfolds.

      Walking into town with THE truth and having one's truth questioned to the point of shaking off the dust of that town...? What if... Matt. 7:8

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      About anger and disappointment, I've explained that further in a few comments just above this one.

      I can only help with removing the blindfolds, but I can't force anyone to open their eyes. We've looked at a few concepts from faith and science. I can explain from different standpoints and go out of my way to source more information, but if a person is determined to hold their ground regardless of how shaky it is, then I am not at fault. I can't force anyone to listen. I'll simply leave the town and shake the dust off my feet.

      Yes, I can tell you what to believe. But am not supposed to force you to believe it. I couldn't even if I tried. Free will ensures that the only one who can make your choices for you is you. In any case, I wouldn't want anyone to believe what they here from another person just like that. Search for what is right and believe in it.

      If you genuinely search for what is right and true, you will find it.

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      Lela 2 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

      I don't know why I bother to reply to people of "faith". It's an exercise in futility.

      Enjoy your religion, but please don't presume to tell an atheist about what they believe or don't believe. And don't presume to tell a scientist about the supernatural.

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      Ron Bergeron 2 years ago from Massachusetts, US

      How can atheists be angry or disappointed with god when they don't believe in god? That's a fallacy.

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      Austinstar.....Asking God to do something is not futile. People assume that God has to say yes to their prayers, and if He doesn't, then what proof is there that He exists?

      Look at it from a viewpoint of a parent and a child. The child can ask the parent for stuff, but does the parent always say yes? Of course not. And if the parent has a reason, will the child understand it? Sometimes. But most of the time the child just gets angry and upset about it. The child gets to understand as he matures.

      Back to God. First, He won't always give you the answer you desire. Secondly, a person should also have faith on what they pray about. And the more your faith matures, the more you get to understand God's decisions over your life.

      Before you dismiss faith as being naive, I've seen crippled children walking and blind people seeing just because of prayer and faith. There are people whose have had life terminal illnesses miraculously cured because they had faith. Doctors themselves have been baffled. And am not talking about prayers made by preachers seeking compensation or people making coached confessions on the pulpit. The power of God is real.

      And about your earlier statement about laws and theories. I haven't got them wrong. You specifically mentioned the theory of gravity. I've come across a piece that explains it in a simple manner...do check it out..

      http://thehappyscientist.com/science-experiment/gr...

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      Lela 2 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

      You said, " Here's the issue- your emotions don't always lead you to make the right decision"

      Why do you think Christianity will lead you to the "right" decision? A decision that is right for one person may be the totally wrong thing for another person.

      You also said, "However, it usually turns out that at some point in their life they felt they needed God to do something, and He didn't."

      The reason that "God" doesn't do something is because he doesn't exist.

      Prayer doesn't work whether you believe it will or you don't believe it will. All favorable outcomes from "prayer" are the result of the natural course of events, and all unfavorable outcomes are because "the person praying or being prayed for just didn't have enough faith. (according to religionists)" The reality is that prayer is useless, and there is no deity up in the sky to actually answer "prayers".

      So saying that an atheist wanted god to do something is like saying that a non-believer in unicorns wants one for a pet or a ride. They don't exist and therefore cannot be a pet or offer you a ride.

      Atheists do not ask a god or gods for anything. It's like asking the rain gods to water your crops. Kind of silly since we know where rain comes from now. Hint: It's not a "rain god".

      So asking a god or gods to do something is futile. Atheists do not do this. Again you are generalizing about something you do not understand apparently.

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      People...am not looking to win an argument for the sake of winning an argument. This is not a debate that will have me saying "Yaay...i won. That'll show them!" Of what value would that be?

      And separate the Christian religion and the Christian faith. The religion has its faults as all other social constructs do. I'll refer you back to the first paragraph and point no. 1 in the hub.

      Based on the charged up responses here, it does go to show that some people make a stand based on an emotional reaction instead of a logical one. It's not always wrong, e.g love can lead to marriage, empathy can lead to you helping a person. Here's the issue- your emotions don't always lead you to make the right decision. e.g anger can lead to vengeance, malice can lead to arson, envy can lead to theft.

      About anger and disappointment towards God. Talk to some atheists. Take them on a walk through their past. Sure, today they'll say its science that makes them not believe in God. (refer to point 4 in the hub). However, it usually turns out that at some point in their life they felt they needed God to do something, and He didn't. Other times they look at the world around them and wonder why God would allow such things to happen. For those I'll refer you back to points 2 and 3 in the hub. That's where it all began for them, then evolved into their current cause.

      Those making a stand based on logic, I refer you back to point 7 in the hub.

      And please read the hub...actual reading, not doing a quick scan and then deciding.

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      WR 2 years ago

      You devoted a lot of time writing about something you don't understand. Atheists don't believe in your god the same way you don't believe in gods like Ahura Mazda or Zeus. Are you against these gods because your angry toward them or because they didn't meet your expectations or whatever other nonsense you spewed here?

      The reason atheists dislike Christianity is because it has political power and uses that political power to deny rights to women and minorities. It promotes hate against people with different lifestyles and viewpoints. And to top it all off many Christians are hypocrites who talk about how wonderfully moral they are while having a ton of skeletons in their closets. But that's ok because your forgiven right while nonbelievers who behave far better than you aren't? That's why you feel you have a right to force your beliefs on others.

      Christianity is a system that allows you to behave as badly as you want without feeling too bad about it because supposedly the angry guy in the sky will forgive you for breaking his rules if all you do is acknowledge his existence and be obsequious toward him.

      Your belief system is seen as a hateful and oppressive cult by outsiders, because that's what it is. I know you don't like to hear that but it's the truth. Yes, it doesn't seem like that to the people in the cult. You imagine it's all love and rainbows and morality and can't see the harm it does. You're incapable of seeing yourself how others see you. You want to write off your critics as angry or disappointed because you don't want to (and can't) address their valid criticisms against you. It's a protective but very dishonest way to deal with all the people fed up religious oppression and bigotry.

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      Catherine Mostly 2 years ago from Seattle, WA - USA - The WORLD

      An article like this isn't written by someone who wants to 'enlighten' people about a controversial subject. The hateful, ignorant way it is written (Christian, surprised much?) is meant to stir up the mutual hate of other fanatical 'Christians' who embrace such nonsense (again, not all Christians agree with this garbage).

      You're simply looking for a certain group of people to agree with you and pat you on the back. Some Christians just bring bad blood to Christianity; just like some Muslims (ISIS) give a bad name to Islam.

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      Yoleen Lucas 2 years ago from Big Island of Hawaii

      Have you ever considered why China has the most atheists? It is becaise their religion, Taoism, is not based on a belief in a Supreme Deity. Cultures all over the world have come up with their own religions, their particular concept of how things work. India's religion, Hindu, has many gods. Christianity, which is a branch of Judaism, has only one. Since no one has actually verified the existence of any of them, one religion is just as valid as any other.

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      JK Southard 2 years ago from USA

      VationSays, I understand. Five generations have preceeded me to the same conclusion and they were fully comforted in life to their deaths. I am at a pivot as are my progeny and others...I see not the right or wrong... just the search. Perhaps I should explain where I have been and where I am headed...just not there yet. I have many more questions than answers but a strong energy surge.

      jlpark, I am seeking my own answers...not in anger.

      Austinstar, religion is a conglomeration...agreed. Yet much of it is evolving. Perhaps it has served a purpose and may yet serve again. Liken unto civil governance strategies tried and discarded through the ages. I submit to you that even the USofA representative democracy may be in for some upgrades in the new millennium due to extreme changes in populations, technology, knowledge...changes in our future due to genetic and cultural coevolutionary processes interlaced with change all around us.

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      Lela 2 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

      You said, "Many people who don't believe in God actually feel that He let them down at some point in their lives."

      That is not true of most atheists. We simply cannot find any real, factual evidence that a god or gods exist!

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      Lela 2 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

      1. Which on is the "REAL" Christianity. You say it's love, but that is a generalization that means nothing to most people. Who "loves", who is "loved".

      2."Sometimes God allows people to get into trouble because it's the only way they'll turn to Him" - What a crock. How many times do you have to read the story of Job to realize that it is utter nonsense.

      3. God does what he wants to! Total cop out. You can rationalize your problems this way and never take responsibility for yourself.

      4. Science is a METHOD OF STUDY. And you forget about the "theory of gravity". Is THAT just a theory? Look up the definition of the word "theory" - you are using it wrong.

      5. People don't want YOU telling them they are wrong just because YOU think you have all the answers. YOU don't.

      6. Idiocy - still not taking personal responsibility. You are "blaming" god.

      7. Logic and Reason do well with facts. Religion does well with imagination and "faith". Two very different things.

      8. You seriously don't get that personal responsibility thing, do you. WHY would you let an invisible, unproven entity control your life?

      "Free Will" - This is just an excuse you have decreed to exist to allow the mental gymnastics of your brain to justify why god does really horrible things. You are blaming the victim and holding the perpetrator (creator) to literally get away with murder - because you have used free will to NOT worship an invisible entity.

      Balderdash. Religion is just a conglomerations of myths, legends, and fairy tales. You are using Wishful thinking when you expect an afterlife in "heaven". It doesn't exist.

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      Jacqui 2 years ago from New Zealand

      Why is it that whenever someone wants to rant about Atheists, they always talk about how we are angry with God. When what it actually appears is that they are angry with Atheists themselves, rather than us being angry.

      I cannot be angry with something I do not believe exists. That would be like being annoyed at Santa Claus, frustrated with the Tooth Fairy, ticked off with Satan. Completely futile, and a waste of good energy.

      SOME Atheists may be angry Atheists - but assuming we all are (and assuming the reasons why) just makes an ASS out of U and ME. Some people are just angry - and Christian. Or Angry and ... Muslim, Angry and Jewish, Angry and...errr...I've not met an Angry Buddhist, but I figure there will be one or two!.

      But from what I can see with this hub, aside from the entirety of it being based on an assumption, and a false one at that (Angry at God), is that the poster seems to have an issue with Atheists, maybe almost angry with them themselves. Perhaps it is because they make the OP question the validity of their faith, of their supreme being etc. Perhaps they feel threatened that people can live GOOD lives without a need to rely on a God. That good deeds can be, and are, done solely because the Atheist feels it should be done - not because there is a threat of brimstone and fire if they didn't.

      You speak of us being misled - yet most of us have actually read the Bible more than once, and been persecuted, insulted, and had lies (much like this hub) spread about us or our lack of belief - things that any real Christian wouldn't do. Why??? Because your journey with your God is a PERSONAL journey. It is not mine, it is not Joe Blogg's, it's not even your wife/husband/childs journey - it is YOURS. Trying to impose your journey on others is rude, and disrespectful - to yourself, to your God, and to the person/s you are imposing it on.

      This Agnostic-Atheist has no issue with religion, yours or otherwise. I have no issue with your God, Buddha, Mohammed, etc because I don't believe in them. I have no issue with you and your faith. I do have an issue when you disrespect others and choose to impose your beliefs on others, when you judge others incorrectly. The most Christ-like Christians out there assume nothing about anyone bar themselves, their journey is personal, and they merely encourage others who may be interested in seeking Christ, but they do not disparage, disrespect, judge or spread assumptive lies about an entire group of people. They are the people who would be more likely convert anyone.

      May I suggest you try it? Cause, we aren't as scary, angry, entitled or bitter as you think. And, usually quite intelligent, and happy to have intelligent conversation about religion without resorting to name-calling if you don't share our opinion (MOST of us - again I can't speak for all of us)

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      Warren Samu 2 years ago from San Diego, CA

      A biased publication written by an outsider who probably does not understand the motivations or thought process of many Atheists. Atheists do not believe in God, so they are not angry with him. They blame the suffering of humanity on people, not a God. Some spend time pointing out that people's faith based actions can lead to the suffering of others, but it's those religious followers who are to blame.

      Science does not have a "thin wall." Scientists call their findings "theories" because they're not arrogant enough to believe in absolutes. They're presenting evidence and ideas based on what we've discovered so far. They realize that new discoveries are on the horizon which might challenge or change what we know today. They leave room for questioning, for new and better information. Science is flexible as well as rational. Science has done more for humanity over the past 150 years than all other institutions that came before it.

      "When you choose Christ, the world will think of you as foolish. You will be mocked, insulted and even cursed."

      Quite the opposite. We live in a predominately Christian society. Christians and other Judaic believers are the majority. Non-believers make up only about 16-17% of the world population. Atheists are a minority that are distrusted, shunned, and attacked. In the past they've been persecuted, marginalized, and put to death for not believing in God or for challenging the teachings of the Church. All this despite being a population that's been around much longer than Christians.

      You make it out as if Atheists are entitled, bitter, with little understanding of the randomness and chaos that is society and the Universe. I argue that they understand the true nature of things and people better than most. I cannot speak for the actions of every individual, there are deviants in any group.

      I can only share my views and hope that you will practice the love you say you embrace and try to stop hating us https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Confessio...

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      Actually the resurrection does matter. If it wasn't real, the Christian faith would have no meaning. The resurrection itself is the proof that Jesus is the Messiah, and it provides a basis for the hope of everlasting life. The resurrection is real in that it actually happened, and symbolic for the weight and assurances it carries. eg it assures us that we have an advocate before God, there is life after death, and Christ will return.

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      JK Southard 2 years ago from USA

      Hi, you say the disconnect between old religious thought/teachings and today's applications are MAINLY due to context...I generally agree. However, faith for many Christians is primarily, if not solely, based on Jesus' REAL resurrection. Would you say that it was real or symbolic or does not matter? My millennial progeny do not accept the from-the-pulpit general pronouncements that faith is based on 2000 yr old supernatural interference. I agree with them but I do church to this day because I need the support as I "work out my own salvation in fear and trembling." If the REAL from the pulpit were not so real, the church environment might be helpful to more people.

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      jksouthard, there is a disconnect between old religious thoughts and today's applications, but that's mainly because of context. However, the teachings from the bible remain the same. They can be understood and applied in today's world, and also the future.

      Hi GlendaGoodWitch, that FB post really does show the charged up reactions Christianity gets. This is especially from persons who are not out to understand the bible, instead giving knee-jerk thoughts that are lacking in both discernment and respect.

      And addressing the post directly above this one by Misfit Chick...

      I'll refer to the source you yourself have posted.

      Ex. 1...the moon being referred to as a light. It is a scientific fact that the moon is merely a reflector of the sun's light. But try explaining that to tribal nomads and desert dwellers. Explain to them how the moon does not produce visible light. Do you get light from it? Yes. Does it produce light? No. Do you want to tell the nomads about the light or give them a physics of how light works? When a mother buys a child a gift using her money, does she say that its her money or the company that paid her or the government that prints the money? When you look up at the sky at night, do you say the moon is shining bright or the moon is reflecting the light from the sun and that light is what is reaching the earth? Context. Genesis referring to the moon as a "light" ("lesser light" actually) is not a mistake.

      Ex. 2 Jesus referring to the mustard seed as the "least of all seeds". Science will say that the mustard is not the smallest seed in the world. An obvious fact. Was Jesus wrong? No. So what did he mean? I'll literally quote your source..."the mustard seed description is not an evaluation of size at all (or exclusively), but an evaluation of worth - which is a matter of personal judgment that is quite acceptable and cannot be charged as erroneous"

      You have brought to light a classic example of a mistake atheists make in their quest to discredit the bible. You pull out a single verse and without paying any attention to its context, you give an executive summary of why it is wrong.

      Christianity has been bashed for nearly 2 millennia. The bible has been torn through for centuries, with people from all walks of life trying to debunk it and disapprove it. It has been ridiculed, called barbaric, racist, bigoted, homophobic and contradictory. People have attempted to add and exclude things from it. It will continue happening for years to come.

      The word of God is not contradictory. The bible has objective truths and subjective truths. Most of what is considered contradictory falls under subjective truths, where God gives you room to do things based on your level of faith..e.g what foods to eat, etc

      One more thing- am not trying to be superior, am trying to enlighten. And as for you, do not seek to prove you're right before you actually know you are right. Defending your position when you're wrong is refusing to leave a sinking ship.

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      Catherine Mostly 2 years ago from Seattle, WA - USA - The WORLD

      What a smelly load of glaring hypocrisy, LoL! Call Athiests idiots while proclaiming yourself to be intelligent with the word "Science" in quotes? That will help!!! (I am well-aware that many Christians do not feel this way, thank GOD!!)

      God is as much a part of the process called "Science"; as he is in the inadequate book Christians refer to as 'his word' - something that cannot possibly be contained. And since the civilized world began to learn how to read for itself- the Bible has been debunked over and over again based on simple science. You only need to go to Wikipedia to see that for yourself; OR you can do the research for yourself - but, it takes longer. ;) http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_e...

      God does not contradict himself - not in nature, not in words and not in deeds. And, it is 'his followers' who are the most ignorant about him. Who taught you to read? Do you need to be taught how to think; or has that already happened and now you can't think logically or with common sense, anymore?

      Why do you keep insulting God by not using the brain that he gave you?

      Ask and you will receive; knock and the door will open - until then, you're just expressing your own shallow mind filled with contempt for spiritual concepts and people that you obviously do not understand.

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      GlendaGoodWitch 2 years ago from California

      Atheists have become a cult. I used to be one and I quoted other atheists, "the Bible is to control people", "Christians think they are better than others", I opened my mind and discovered that atheists are the ones who think that they are superior. Every Christian I know is a caring, loving person who devotes time and money helping others. I just don't know any atheists who do that.

      Check this out. Its an FB post - Very typical of what I see. A nice Christian making a post and then being attacked viciously, with profanity, name calling, and faulty "facts" by an atheists. https://www.facebook.com/kim.harris.7330763/posts/...

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      JK Southard 2 years ago from USA

      I follow my family tradition. If it had been a different tradition, I might be following it. I go to church, try to follow the golden rule and Jesus' teachings; yet I believe the power of all of us together to view our destiny ... is close to the meaning of life. In questioning those who do not go to- or have high regard for religion, their answers can generally be stated as... in an era when quantum mechanics, for example, is being used to probe the very structures of life and this universe, the old (G)gods explanations are "out of date." I support updating religious thought using what we know about who we are...how we arrived here...and projecting our future. For me, doing that is...a diy (do it yourself) project.

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      VationSays 2 years ago

      True- you cannot be angry or disappointed with something unless you believe it exists. Some atheists have these feelings towards God that slowly build up, and then convince themselves that He doesn't exist, and use a different reason, eg science, to justify it.

      It's how the human mind works at times. A person can give numerous reasons for doing something yet never come to terms with the actual motive/drive behind their actions. e.g common workplace scenarios- "The machine doesn't work right", "The materials aren't in yet", "There isn't enough time" while the person might just be lazy or want to get off work early for a game.

      So what you've said is true- a person can't be angry at God and claim God doesn't exist. Such an argument defeats itself.

      Many people who don't believe in God actually feel that He let them down at some point in their lives. They just won't admit it. They'll hide behind a misplaced sense of logic. The goal here is not to win an argument against them-it's to win them for Christ. Show them that God never really let them down. God never breaks anyone's trust in Him.

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      mactavers 2 years ago

      I understand your Hub to a degree, but it isn't logical to say Atheists are angry with or disappointed in God if they don't believe in God. How can one be angry with something they don't believe exists? For example I don't believe unicorns exist therefore how can I be angry with or disappointed in them?