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Acts 2 The Gift of the Holy Spirit

Updated on June 18, 2013
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For a minute the air crackled. The hair on the back of my neck stood up and I had the uncanny feeling that something big was about to happen. The whole world seemed to hold its breath. Suddenly the roar of a terrible wind shattered the silence. At least I thought it was wind at first, it was powerful, awesome, frightening. The noise was earth shattering, but a wind of such force should have caused some major damage. Yet nothing was touched. I didn’t know what it was, but I was going to find out. I rushed around the corner to follow the sound and saw a large crowd gathering. This time of year, Jerusalem was very crowded. It was the celebration of Pentecost, one of the yearly festivals that all male Jews were required to attend. Held 50 days after Passover, Pentecost celebrated the time God gave Moses the Law. We had spent the night studying the law and reading the book of Ruth in honor of that day. Now we were getting ready for the feasting and festivities that came with our celebration. Until the mysterious wind came, then all activity was put on hold to satisfy our curiosity.


The strange sound seemed to be heading into a particular dwelling. I recognized the house as the one where Jesus’ apostles were staying. I remembered with sadness his death on the cross at Passover, and felt compassion for their loss. I had also heard rumors of Jesus coming back to life again, but didn’t pay too much attention to them. That was impossible. I knew Jesus had done many miraculous things during his life, but since I was a Jew from Asia, I hadn’t seen anything first hand. I didn’t know how much truth was in the stories. Regardless of what I had missed before, I was about to witness something incredible now. The sound entered the house, filling it up and turning into fire. I felt frozen in place as the fire divided and consumed the men inside. What was happening? Why didn’t anyone do something? Perhaps everyone was as stunned as I was. Shocked at what they were seeing, unable to move. Then I realized that each person was on fire, but nothing was burning up. I could hardly believe my eyes. As I stood there with my mouth hanging open, it filtered through my befuddled brain that the men inside were all talking at once. Slowly I realized that I could understand them! I knew they were Galilean, but they were speaking my language! In amazement, I realized that we could all understand them, each in our own tongue. The crowd represented Jews from all over the world; Egypt, Arabia, Rome, Mesopotamia, Libya and many more. I was a part of the miracle, but I had no idea what was going on. Confusion showed on the faces around me, and I knew I wasn’t alone. Some started making fun of the apostles, accusing them of being drunk, but I knew this was not the result of too much wine. It was just too amazing.


Finally Peter came out and told us what was going on. He told us about Jesus and reminded us of the miracles he had done. He confirmed that Jesus really did rise from the dead and explained how he had fulfilled prophesy. Then Peter explained what we were seeing. Jesus had spoken to them after his resurrection and told them to stay in Jerusalem until he sent them his gift. That gift was what we were witnessing. It was the gift of the Holy Spirit. I knew about the Holy Spirit. It was the Holy Spirit who talked to the prophets in our scriptures. It was the Holy Spirit who gave them the power of God and the ability to prophesy. But the Holy Spirit was only for special people, the great men of faith in our nation. Those men had a special relationship with God that we could never hope for. Was it possible? Could it be true? Was he saying we could all have the Holy Spirit? What an honor that would be, to know God as the prophets knew him, to be able to talk to him and to have him as a part of our lives. I could hardly grasp the concept. My heart burst, I need to know how this could be. Someone asked the questions burning in my mind. “Brothers, what shall we do?” I listened closely as Peter answered. “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off-for all whom the Lord our God will call.” I knew this was what I wanted; I knew this was what I would do. That day three thousand of us were baptized. It was a moment I would never forget. My life has never been the same. I cannot explain the joy we had as we basked in the love of God. Later life got difficult. The Romans and the Jewish leaders were threatened by us and made our lives difficult. But although I would be tortured for my new faith in Christ, I never regretted my decision.


It wasn’t until evening that I realized the significance of that day. Fifty days earlier we had gathered in Jerusalem to celebrate the Passover, the night the ancient Jews in Egypt sacrificed a lamb to save their firstborn sons from the plague of death that would ravish the land. On our Passover, Jesus, the Son of God, had been sacrificed to save the world from the plague of death brought on by our sins. Today we were celebrating Pentecost, the time when God gave those ancient Jews the gift of his law 50 days after freeing them from Egyptian slavery. On our celebration, 50 days after Christ’s death, we were given the gift of the Holy Spirit. This opened up a whole new relationship with our God. It is a relationship for all the nations, a relationship that confirmed our freedom from the penalty of our sins. From this day forward a new and better way had been given to us. No longer were sacrifices required. Jesus had completed the law and now we were free to accept his sacrifice and have all of our sins forgiven. What a wonderful gift! I couldn’t wait to share the news with everyone I knew in hopes that their lives would be changed as well.




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      newenglandsun 21 months ago

      R.I.P.

      Sorry for your loss.

      Congratulations.

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      newenglandsun 21 months ago

      IDK how Teresa is doing. Heard from her this week but she asked how I was doing.

      How do you like this song?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCxgJFjnZw

      Brutal? Sad? Both?

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      April Reynolds 22 months ago from Arizona

      No to all of those, but I did start neurofeedback for my TBI a couple weeks ago, so I'm hoping I get better quickly so I can get back to writing again in a few months.

      How have you been? Is Latin going well? Someday I would like to learn Greek.

      How is Teresa doing?

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      newenglandsun 22 months ago

      Dead? Pregnant? Someone you know dead? Pregnant AND someone you know dead?

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      newenglandsun 23 months ago

      Try GM Yasser Seirawan's series on "Everyman Chess". There's different installments in the series such as on tactics, openings, and strategies.

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      April Reynolds 24 months ago from Arizona

      That would be a good idea if I ever get some time on my hands. do you have any books you would recommend?

      I was praying for Teresa this morning and wondering how she is doing.

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      newenglandsun 24 months ago

      You should get some chess books to study to help better teach people the strategies involved in chess.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      That sounds interesting, I hope you enjoy it. One of my boys just informed me he wants to learn Latin, but it will be awhile before he has the chance.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      I'm enrolled as a non-degree seeking student at ASU right now studying Latin.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M4GoNlBuc

      a sport april will start playing, right?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      How are you?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      I feel like it!

      I just got back from PA last night and I have a ton of laundry, emails and cleaning to catch up on.

      How are you doing? I did like your crushing defeat of migedi. I tried to teach my nephew chess last week, but we kept getting interrupted so we never got to finish a game.

      Have you chosen a graduate school?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      dead?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      How do you like my crushing blow with the outrageous bishop's gambit here?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      That is good news for your sister. I was playing the Sicilian defense in that game which gives black a better chance.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Wow, that looks like an intense game.

      no, I haven't had time, it has been a busy summer.

      My sister called me today. She is totally cancer free. It is an unexpected and welcome surprise!

      Thank you for your prayers for her.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Did you create an account here yet?

      https://www.shredderchess.net/

      Bishops of opposite colors, draw was agreed.

      https://www.shredderchess.net/?game=3288412

      We've played three times and he's beaten me the other two times so I did better this game.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      no, just tired. my sister isn't doing to well though. She was doing pretty good for months after her surgery, but now her tumor is growing again.

      How are you enjoying your summer?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      pregnant?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Well first I sacrificed the queen, then the king started being chased around by my remaining pieces, then I checkmated him!

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      I don't know, but it doesn't look good for him

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      How did black king end up on a1?

      https://www.shredderchess.net/?game=2993552

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      I can't believe I missed mate in one at move 19! Then again, it was a bullet chess game and we both got 2 mins. to think through our moves (each). But I had actually perfectly planned that king-hunt knowing full well that my opponent would never want to give the queen they captured back.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      long live the queen...amazing capture

      have you decided on a graduate college?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      How about my dominance in this game with the queen sac?

      https://www.shredderchess.net/?game=2965100

      Just look at all the black pieces standing around watching poor king get slaughtered.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      I found a doctor who was able to diagnose my dizziness, unbalance and extreme fatigue. Turns out its from a concussion I had a long time ago. She said any minor hit to the same spot would have brought on the new symptoms.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Great job on the chess matches! That first one seemed like you won pretty quickly. I'm glad you found players who are a better challenge than I am. Maybe I will sign up and practice.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Congratulations on graduating with such a high honor. I knew you would. It must be thrilling to be done. Do you know what your next step is?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      I am very sorry to hear about your cousin Daniel, I will pray for your family and especially your aunt. His achievements were amazing and I'm glad he was an inspiration to you.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Oh, yes. I wanted to show you two incredible chess games I had! Just hit "play as guest" when the log-in screen shows up and you will be directed toward the final position of one of my games--I'm newengland7. Go to the right screen where the moves are listed and click through.

      I had the black pieces in both games.

      https://www.shredderchess.net/?game=2869449

      https://www.shredderchess.net/?game=2852066

      Both of these guys are solid players too.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      My last post did not show up for some reason...Any way, my extended family has been hanging in there. Cousin died in a paratrooper accident.

      https://newenglandsun.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/r-i...

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      That was May 11. Magna cum laude.

      My cousin died.

      http://abc11.com/news/paratrooper-killed-in-airbor...

      April 28...he was only 27.

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      april 2 years ago

      Hello Daniel! I have been thinking about you. Someone said ASU's graduation is coming up next week and I assume you are graduating with honors?

      Thank you for asking about my family. I am back in PA right now. It is emotional here. Tomorrow is my sisters birthday, so I will get to spend it with her. Some days she is doing really good and others are harder on her. We still don't know what will happen. Although I think she will be ok. Her doctor said to live her life as normal as possible and she is enjoying everything she can. Oh, my battery is dying.

      It is good to hear from you, I hope all is well.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      how's your family holding up?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      probably a good idea, i don't have much time to play and wouldn't be very good competition anyway

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      white resigns. he wants a better match-up.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Nah. f7's a king! Two kings' handicap chess. Here are the rules: as long as you have both kings on the board, and one king is on an attacked square (either in check or checkmate), you are not required to move it on to a safe square. I have to forcefully remove one king off the board and in doing so, that could actually cost me one of my own pieces. So we'll let f7 be another king.

      Your turn.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      that is a challenge, sorry f7's a pawn

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      http://www.jinchess.com/chessboard/?p=rnbqkbnrpp-p...

      sorry, messed the board up.

      this is an extremely handicapped two kings game. i have to checkmate both of them in order to win.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      no...you do not know what you are doing...nor do i. but i will try my best to checkmate both your kings.

      Bb2

      http://www.jinchess.com/chessboard/?p=rnbqkbnrpp-p...

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      All right, i'm going to try c5

      http://www.jinchess.com/chessboard/?p=rnbqkbnrpp-p...

      And you should know that I don't really know what I'm doing. I only know enough chess to teach kids who I usually let win so they don't get discouraged and give it up. So I might not be much of a challenge for you :)

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Yep...that's right. But in the future, just call the move. For algebraic notation, the only thing you need to do is to designate the piece by its initial and the square it is going to. So if you are moving a bishop to the a3 square (left side of the board, three spaces up), the notation is Ba3. According to my new chess program (Arena), you are using the Reversed Grob...hmmm...

      Normally characterized by white moving g4 on his first move. You have done g5 (pawns are not "pieces" and as such, when moving a pawn, you designate the square it is going to). For king-side castling--O-O. Queen-side castling is O-O-O. Well...if you know what you are doing, I'm going to plan to pick off your king-side bishop right off the bat right now.

      Also, show the board too as well as I sometimes goof up...lol. b3

      http://www.jinchess.com/chessboard/?p=rnbqkbnrpppp...

      P.S. I've got our game saved right now into Arena in case we mess the board up!

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      http://www.jinchess.com/chessboard/?p=rnbqkbnrpppp...

      Hope I did that right. I only ever play with my boys and I haven't played on the computer before.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Hmm, all the comments I posted this past week didn't post. flying home to Phx today

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Hmm, all the comments I posted this past week didn't post. flying home to Phx today

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

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      April 2 years ago

      Its possible, but between my own health and going back east to see my sister every month, it seems like too much for me right now.

      I saw my library had wisdom of solomon, but when I went to get it, someone had checked it out. so I'll look again when I get back home.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      I think you can still get pregnant in your forties. Plus, you need that two-year-old just in case.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago

      at one point I would have agreed with you, but now I can't even imagine it.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      but it would also be awesome if you were pregnant as well.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      That my sister gets way more than a month

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      hope that you are pregnant, the month is dedicated to you, or that your sister gets a month?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Thank you Daniel, we certainly hope so. I am going back up in two weeks.

      I'm sorry I haven't been home much in the last few weeks. I hope you are doing well and that you are able to enjoy Easter this year.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      this month is officially dedicated to you. does your sister get a month?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      pregnant?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      After being shown numerous action movies, superhero movies, and cheesy comedy movies, I'm ready to have a mix of fantasy, history, sci-fi, and horror films where at least you don't know if the main character will live or not. Fantasy though has some sins in its respective genre as well.

      The most disturbing movie I've ever seen is called "The Devils". It's about the trial of Fr. Urbain Grandier. He allegedly caused an entire nunnery to become possessed. Professor for my witchcraft and heresy in Europe class showed us the film but could only show us an EDITED version of it. Of course, this is college where no permission slips are needed for R-rated movie viewing you know so guess what the original version was rated? X. This was before NC-17. Not a horror film and not scary but really disturbing as it has scenes of intense torture, a nun-orgy scene, lots of skeletons, and a bit of nudity.

      Horror does not necessarily mean "scary" though. Much modern horror movies aren't scary at all. The "Saw" franchise is not scary but it's very gory. "Evil Dead" (2013 re-make) could be frightening for some. My mom's like freaking out right now that I've developed this recent interest in horror films. She likes comedies and "feel-goody" movies. I find such movies to be freaking boring. How does one even SIT THROUGH those kind of movies?

      I forgot to include a found-footage horror film.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRrZZNyOqyY

      When your kids go to high school, their history teachers will probably have you sign a permission slip for R-rated films. There's some good history films that are R-rated ("Saving Private Ryan", "The Patriot", "The Pianist", etc.).

      Doing well...

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      ah, no thanks. never really liked horror films.

      how are you doing?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      If April were in a horror film would she be in a gorno?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHDJm1D2ELw

      A supernatural horror film?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k10ETZ41q5o

      A psychological horror film?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5mT5LhbRJw

      A sci-fi horror film?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQgnnsqysZE

      Or a slasher?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYoEtEI_go

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      They're coming out with a "Sinister 2" in August. I have no idea as to how they're going to pull that off as the first one was a bit predictable. It produces genuine scares though. I've only seen scenes from it but from what I've seen, it's really good. It's rated R so you can watch it with your family.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      That's creepy.

      it doesn't look like my comment posted while I was in PA. My sister was doing better. We were able to visit my brother a couple hours away, which she wouldn't have been able to do on my earlier trip so that was fun.

      It is nice to be back in warm weather. It was pretty cold and snowy up there. It's been a long time since I had to shovel so much snow.

      I hope you are doing well, is this your last semester of classes?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIvPwxHPy6g

      Hanging out?

      (The bad guy in that movie has a very morbid sense of humor, BTW)

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      how you doing? how your sister doing?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Hi Daniel! She is hanging in there. Some days are better than others. I am getting ready to go back to Pennsylvania again tomorrow.

      I'm sorry I have been out of contact. I have thought of you but haven't had a chance to write. There hasn't been much time between my trips. Enjoy your warm weather. It is cold and icy where I'm going!

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      is your sister okay?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      You should get all of your family members checked on just in case.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      :) Thank you, I will.

      The MRI was clear. There is no brain tumor. Yesterday I got to see an ultrasound of my heart. That was pretty cool. I'm leaving for Pennsylvania this week so I won't get the results until after I get back in February.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      R.I.P. April Reynolds - 1973-2015

      Devoted Wife, Loving Mother, Sister, and Daughter

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      First your sister, then you, what next? Your husband dies in his sleep?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Good Morning, Thank you Daniel. I am on my way to have my own MRI done today, along with other tests. I appreciate your thoughts and I am sorry I haven't been able to read all your articles yet, only parts of them. I have been a little overwhelmed this month.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      how's your sister doing now? she's not on chemo is she? i would rather die sooner and less painfully then be on chemo.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Thank you Daniel, I appreciate that. My sister is doing better. I am planning to go visit her soon.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      sorry about that insensitive message...i'm bad at asking questions like that. i was just wondering how everyone was doing and if everyone was still okay and not dead.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      I was wondering...why aren't you Catholic?

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Oh good. I am hoping you'll be able to comment on the ordination of women.

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      april 2 years ago

      I hope you had a Merry Christmas Daniel and that you were able to enjoy the time with your family. We are visiting my in-laws in South Carolina for the holidays. I should be able to look at your wordpress when we get back next week.

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      april 2 years ago

      Hi Daniel, sorry my computer is unavailale right now and my phone is difficult. hope to be back soon!

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Congratulations, I hope she does share your feelings! That is exciting. I agree, praying together is an amazing and powerful bonding experience. I am glad you are willing to take that risk.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Speaking of fidelity, I am considering proposing to my friend when she returns here from California this winter. I've already found a lovely ring. Of course, she may not have those same feelings for me but at least I took a risk to find out.

      I'm also planning on getting her a rosary and a statue of the Ever-Virgin so we can pray together. Spiritual bonds are more powerful than fleshly bonds.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Thank you, my grandmother is with him. He was 93 when he passes and she only lived a few months after. That was about 9 years ago. They were teenagers when they met and you could tell they were still in love at the end. I am thankful that they got to meet both of my boys and they even made the trip out here to see where I live.

      My family is good. Danny is excited for his cross country race tomorrow, and TJ is fascinated by the Orion launch today. Yes, I am still faithful to my husband. I wouldn't trade him for anybody. I am getting ready to go out Christmas shopping for him. We are going back to the east coast to see his parents for Christmas.

      How have you been? Was your Thanksgiving peaceful with your family? I keep praying that you will someday feel some love and acceptance with them. How have your classes at ASU been? It sounded like you had a pretty full load this semester.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      My condolences about your grandfather. Is your grandmother still around or is she with him?

      How is your family? You still faithful to your husband, right? No guys you've been meeting with.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      The ELCA has but the LCMS is pretty solid.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Good Morning again! Your email this morning prompted me to head over here to hubpages, I haven't been on since before Thanksgiving.

      I have talked to my children about baptism and found out that their youth leaders at church have also talked to them about it. Neither wants to right now but both are considering it. I have also talked to God about it and I have been assured that it is ok.

      I have a friend who is in the process of leaving Lutheranism because the deviations from the Bible that her denomination has been embracing are becoming more than her conscience can accept. When the church she belonged to progressed away from the Bible more and more she changed to a more conservative Lutheran church, but she soon learned the departure seems to be at the very core and spreading through most of the congregations. I think this is unfortunate and I am very sad about it. The same thing was happening in the Mennonite church that my parents grew up in. My grandfather was very upset when they adopted a new age philosophy. It broke his heart that they were hardly teaching the Bible at all anymore by the time he passed.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      April,

      Have you talked to God more about this? I hope I can convince you to baptize your children. But I want to give you some verses to chew on...

      We make people Christians when we baptize them and teach them (Matt. 28:19)

      Baptism binds us to the resurrection of Jesus (Rom. 6:1-4).

      Baptism saves us (1 Pet. 3:21).

      Baptism makes us born again (John 3:3-8).

      Faith and repentance are required but only the kind of faith that a child has in its mother (Matt. 18:1-6). And God generates repentance in us not us so repentance is able to be done at all ages.

      I hope you have heard God speak to you and tell you that you should baptize your children ASAP. They aren't a child of God without it. It is your duty as a Christian mother to bring your children to Christ. You do this by the waters of baptism.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      And again, you keep assuming that belief and repentance and faith are intellectual things but yet Jesus requires us to have the faith of a child (Matt. 18:1-6). Clearly, an infant can have all the necessary pre-requisites for baptism yet you continue to deny your children the kingdom of heaven. Baptism contains the gift of regeneration (John 3:3-8).

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      But the belief that baptism saves has always been a profession of the church. Baptism can lose it's sanctifying grace if the person decides to reject God but if a person willingly rejects baptism then this person might end up unsaved. As Peter says, "baptism...now saves you" (1 Pet. 3:21). So we are to get baptised ASAP.

      Here's an article on the historic profession of the church on what baptism does.

      http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2010/06/the-churc...

      Here is another article on how baptism fits in to the doctrine of theosis and justification.

      https://afkimel.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/eastern-o...

      The profession of the Nicene faith is that there is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. You only need to be baptised once but this baptism is for the forgiveness of sins. If you don't baptise your children, you are denying them forgiveness. Their right to the kingdom of God.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Good Evening,

      Today I was finally able to finish reading all the articles and looking up all the verses. As I was thinking through my thoughts and comments to each verse and each point, I saw a bigger picture. I absolutely agree with you that the Bible tells us to be baptized. However, it does not specify a particular way or certain time when this needs to occur, and I think that is where our disagreement is.

      When I look at the examples in the Bible, I see baptism in response to belief. When I look at the commands to baptize, I see it in conjunction with discipleship, repentance, and belief.

      However, I have read all the articles you have sent me written by those who believe that the baptism of children is implied. Some of these points I can agree with and others I can’t. If the infant baptism is done as an expression of the parent’s faith and intention to disciple their children towards faith in Jesus, as one of the more lengthy articles stated, I am fine with that.

      I believe, based on the principles behind Roman’s 14, that when the Bible doesn’t clarify specifics, there will be different opinions and we need to respect that and not judge each other, but each of us must be convinced in our own mind. Roman’s 14 is talking about eating food sacrificed to idols and celebrating holidays, which isn’t a big part of our culture here, but I think the recognition that it is ok to have different opinions on things that are not black and white but don’t go against what the Bible clearly defines, is universal.

      I must also say that I cannot agree that the baptism of an infant guarantees that child will be a believer and gives that child eternal salvation. That is too important of a doctrine for God to not clearly include in his Word to all of us. I have known too many people who were baptized at birth or as a child who grew up to reject God, show no evidence of a personal friendship with him, deny he exists, or even hate him, to believe that is true. On the flip side, I have known many, many people who do have an active, visible relationship with God based on their belief that they are saved because Jesus died for their sins. Most of them were not baptized as babies or children and some have still not been baptized because circumstances in their lives do not allow it.

      As far as baptism making them members of the church, and I assume you are talking about the universal church, not the local church. I have never heard of that before you mentioned it earlier so I don't really have anything to say about it except that I believe the church is made up of believers in Jesus Christ and all he has done for us. Other than the rather long path one of the articles took to get close to that conclusion, I haven't seen anything in the Bible about that.

      Anyway, I hope you are having a good evening and enjoying your week.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      This is progress. You need to make certain they know that it is BAPTISM which makes them members of the Church. Also, I've suggested Lutheranism because they are Biblically based but you can look into any church really...my suggestions would be:

      Lutheranism,

      Anglo-Catholicism (Church of the Epiphany is in Phoenix--they're Continuing Anglicans like me but there's also St. Mary's Episcopal Church),

      Roman Catholicism,

      Traditionalist Catholicism (where the mantilla),

      Eastern Catholicism (Maronites and Byzantines are in Phoenix--again, where the mantilla),

      Eastern Orthodoxy (again, where the mantilla)

      Oriental Orthodoxy (I think there are Copts and Syriacs in Phoenix--again, where the mantilla),

      The Assyrian Church of the East

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Good Evening! I have talked to them about it, and had a chance to read through some of the articles. I believe I have some thoughts to share once I get a chance to sit down and clarify them. I thought I would get a chance earlier today, but I had to take a friend to Mayo and it ended up being much longer than anticipated.

      How are you enjoying the beautiful mornings? Are you able to get out and run? My youngest has decided to "train" me to run in a 5k so we are running part way to school in the mornings, a little further every couple of days. Anyway, it's time they get to bed so I will try to write again next week. I'd like to finish the articles first.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Hello,

      Did you get your children baptised yet? And read the articles?

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Hello, I've only had a chance to read one of these articles so far and now I have an appointment to get too. If I get home before the kids get off school I"ll read the rest, otherwise I should have time again tomorrow.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Here's some good articles from WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) on baptism...prayerfully consider them.

      http://web.archive.org/web/20090927173020/https://...

      http://web.archive.org/web/20090927173337/https://...

      http://web.archive.org/web/20080630041732/www.wels...

      http://web.archive.org/web/20090927121553/https://...

      That last link is REALLY good. But WELS, being a Lutheran congregation, is very well based on Biblical beliefs and adhering to the teachings of scriptures. So definitely see about studying with them.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Thank you

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      where at in phoenix do you live? here's a bible-based church--get your kids baptised there.

      http://www.relcwels.org/

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Why do you seek to delay your children's salvation as long as possible? Your parents don't need to come out. They just need the stain of original sin removed. Baptise them in a Lutheran, Anglo-Catholic, Orthodox, or Catholic church.

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      April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

      Hello, my absence means I've been incredibly busy and haven't been online much this month. I did however talk to them about it and asked my parents if/when they would be able to come out.

      I also took the time to read the article you sent by Fr. Dwight Longenecker, and while I don’t make the connections he does to baptism (and communion) being required for salvation, I do agree that they are necessary symbols of our inner faith. I appreciate his acknowledgement that belief and profession are necessary for salvation. And I also agree that the sacraments are useful, just not to the degree of being an absolute requirement. Anyway, I have re-read through Romans 6 and will do so again when I get the chance. In the meantime, I hope you are doing well and that things are going better for you.

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      newenglandsun 2 years ago

      Let's hope your absence means you're getting kids baptised now.