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Be sceptical, but don't be completely dismissive

Updated on March 13, 2013

There is an old saying “don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.” Now there is a lot of stuff that goes on in this world that I have to say I am sceptical about, whilst I don’t understand, I know it to be an illusion. For example pulling a rabbit out of a hat, impressive though it is, is just an illusion. Rabbits don’t live in hats. However, the reason I am saying don’t throw the baby out with the bath water is, whilst there is nothing wrong with scepticism, I think you can end up dismissing everything without cause or reason. I was a sceptic, so was Thomas who, when asked whether he believed Christ was raised from the dead responded quite rightly in my opinion, I will not believe it till I put my fingers in the holes in his hands and his side. There are a number of prominent people over the years who have set out to disprove Christianity, Lee Strobel was a well known atheist. He set out to disprove Christianity once and for all, he failed. Not only did he fail to disprove it, he also started seeing stuff, the sort of stuff that I have seen, which actually turns someone from an atheist into someone who believes in God. One example for me was when I was healed on the spot of a sore throat. Another was when I was prayed for and had an encounter with the most amazing energy; I swear my life was never the same after that day. I was touched by the spirit of God, and it was awesome! As for the bible I have spent many years now grappling with that exceptional book, and after studying it, pushing all the doors, and gaining a deep understanding of it, I now realise that not only is God real, but the bible is also accurate to the point where it is almost scares me. That book it reads you, your thoughts and your feelings. This video really helped me get the bible.

The bible is about the Passover lamb, you see when the Jews were enslaved in Egypt, Moses pleaded for Pharaoh to let his people go. He refused, so as a final judgement against the Egyptians, God sent the angel of death amongst them to kill the first born son, in place of the whole families. Notice the latent reference to Jesus there; kill the son in the place of the whole family. Then, even more interestingly, he asks the Jews to spread the blood of the lamb on their doors so God’s judgement would Passover them, that’s the reason it was called the Passover. Then when Jesus comes he is referred to as the Passover lamb, because he is the real Passover lamb. If you have Jesus’s blood on your door, you are no longer subject to God’s judgement, but are one of his people.

Want to try again with someone else? When Abraham was asked by God to offer up his only son as a sin offering, a son who he had waited many years for, who like Jesus was born in exceptional circumstances. What was God doing? In part he was testing Abraham’s allegiance, but what he was also making a statement, he was saying “this is what I am going to do; I am going to offer up my only son as a sin offering for the whole of mankind.” You can find Jesus in pretty much every story in the bible, if you look hard enough, he is the ark in Noah’s ark, David in David and Goliath, He frees the slaves from captivity (the bible says we were slaves to our sin), like Moses helps free the Jews in Egypt. So if you ever wondered why Christians are so obsessed with Jesus that is why, they believe that his sacrifice on the cross cleanses people from sin, so they are no longer under God's judgement, so God's judgement will pass over them like it did the Jews in Egypt.

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      Gianandrea Maoli 4 years ago from South Carolina

      I never thought about these connections regarding Passover and Jesus until now. That's pretty fascinating thinking. Thanks for sharing!

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      if you want to pass it on to your christian friends then be my guest, I believe in promoting better scriptural teaching in the church, this may be one way to do it!

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      Gianandrea Maoli 4 years ago from South Carolina

      I decided to take your advice and share it on my Facebook wall. Keep up the good work!

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      Lisa McKnight 4 years ago from London

      Lovely writing about the Bible. You can tell you have read it. I'm one of those people who read it all the way through, cover to cover and it took me three years. I was determined to do it. Like you say, the connections and process behind all the stories which seem full of sacrifice, wrath and pain underpin a common thread. God loves us and constantly justifies us through the salvation sent through Jesus.

      Well done. Voted up and beautiful.

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      Marliza Gunter 4 years ago from South Africa

      I was sceptical, but not anymore... now I am thinking that my time on earth is too short to know all that is going on in heaven and on earth... God prooved to me every little thing that I asked Him about.. but yes, one must first want to learn from God with a attitude of openess before He bothers sharing His secrets with a person...

      Lovely take on the Old Testament, here one can also see the old saying, "hystory repeats itself", as when God said that what was is to come... nice to meet you.. :) voted up!!

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      thank you, it is an awesome book. i wrote this to encourage believers and make agnostics think twice

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      Rhonda D Johnson 4 years ago from Somewhere over the rainbow

      I'm not throwing out the baby with the bathwater when I dismiss anyone who tries to tell me that two plus two = five. People try to disprove God. Failing that, they jump (and it's a big jump) to the conclusion that if God is true then the religion of whatever country they live in must be true. There is no proof. There is only interpretation. I have talked to people of many different religious persuasions. They generally take the same events as proof of the truth of their respective religions. Then I sit back and look at all these deities claiming to be the ONE TRUE GOD, and I know the Creator of the universe would never be silly enough to hang His neon sign among them.

      In fact, if we start with God exists, the only honest conclusion we could honestly come to is the God of the Bible does not exists. The Earth centered creation story we read about in the Bible bears no resemblance to the universe we live in. If the God of the Bible created a world which does not exist, we must look elsewhere for the real Creator of the real world.

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      Yeah but you have to understand the way we interpret genesis depends on the type of literature we believe it is. If it's a poem then to get reason from it would be like getting reason from jaberwocky. I will write a hub on it in the next week, it's far to complex to put in a comment thread. But I will ask you a another question, who was Jesus? He's either really important or not at all important, but what he can never be is somewhat important he never left that avenue open to us, he didn't intend to.

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      Rhonda D Johnson 4 years ago from Somewhere over the rainbow

      I don't know of anyone who can really say what Jesus did or did not do. The only thing we know about him is what others said about him. Like Pythagoras before him, Jesus left no writings of his own, that we know of, but was raided to godhood by his disciples after he died (assuming that he ever lived.) Contrary to what the Church teaches, there is nothing unique about Jesus or the claims attributed to him.

      He is important to millions of people but unimportant to billions of people. And yes, he is somewhat important to most people because even though he is of no import in their personal lives, he is still a fiat cultural icon.

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      Self righteousness false humility? You must have me mistaken for someone who thinks they can save themselves. I am saved by Grace, the buck stops with Christ. I do nothing to that end. By grace and not works so that noone can boast. As for the disgusting things that are done in the name of religion, I believe that more a reflection of man using anything as a excuse to fight than a reflection on God. Almost as if we were tainted with something.... In terms of the encounter with the spirit, there are only two ways God can engage us electrically and chemically, I reckon it's endorphins personally

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      Haha indeed my apologies I read the as "that self righteousness!" How do you know when your in love? You just have to experience it.

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      Cause the person who was praying for me wasn't praying to Thor. Plus I wasn't hit with a sledge hammer... Also I have the gifts of tongues, described in the bible. I was healed like what happens in the bible. I don't have thors book of destruction to compare notes.but I dont believe those are in there...

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      Leprosy, wrecked my life lol. I was healed on the spot of a sore throat, I have no idea how many languages I speak lol, I am not really in control of it. However occasionally here familiar words, once I was saying different nations

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      Rhonda D Johnson 4 years ago from Somewhere over the rainbow

      A sore throat?! Ever notice that when Christians pray it's like they're praying for a traffic light. "In the name of Jesus, I command you to turn green. Satan, you take your hands off that traffic light. You have no authority to hinder my prayer. I rebuke you. Light, turn green!" Then when it turns green—see it worked. If they pray for the light to turn psychedelic, that's when you get all the explanations or just plain silence.

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      Joseph A K Turner 4 years ago from West Yorkshire

      There was a lady in my church whose leg grew. Nope I am a new,frontiers Christian from the UK. There are two types of tongues. You seem like an intelligent fellow, have you tested? Rhonda I once prayed for God to break me and was on my knees in two days utterly destroyed, and I consider myself to be very emotionally stable.

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