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Caleb and Josh

Updated on June 27, 2010
Number Twelve
Number Twelve

Numbers 32:11-13

Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:

Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenezite, and Joshua the son of Nun: for they have wholly followed the LORD.

And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.

When other men saw giants, they saw possibilities and hope for a better future, when other men shrank from the task, they said push forward and let's get to it.

When other men were consigned to die in the wilderness, the awaited their inheritance with quite anticipation, serving their time and sealing their fate, in a positive manner.

When you read this chapter forward you will see that even though the Israelites were caused to wander forty years in the wilderness, they still did not learn, and as they approached their promised land, three tribes decided that where they were was good enough for them, and Reuben, Gad and some of Manasseh petitioned Moses to give them the pasture land in what is now Jordan and Syria.

Moses agreed, that they could build and house their cattle and womenfolk, provided that the men went forward into the land God promised them and served in the army to take that land.

Notice that Moses agreed , it does not say that God agreed , just Moses.

God has His perfect will and His permissive will, we need to recognise which will we are moving forward into, especially we need to avoid our will, should be wary when it's Gods permissive will, and rejoice when we know we are in His perfect will.

Ruben and Gad, along with some of Manasseh chose His permissive will, confirmed by Moses, who also failed to set foot into Gods promised land, because he had chosen Gods permissive will when he struck the rock for the second time, rather than listen to Gods perfect will instruction.

So Reuben, Gad and some of Manasseh got to fight the battles that won Gods chosen people Gods chosen land, but never got to own one square inch of it.

For Gods chosen land started OVER the Jordan river.

They stopped obeying God yards from the finish line, and centuries later, when the Gentiles were deciding where the boundaries for this new state of Israel should lie, those Gentiles gave Reuben and Gad's lands to the Jordanians, and Manasseh's land ended up in Syria.

Now I am a bible believer, which means that on occasion I am required to trust God implicitly, and like Shadrach, Meshach; and Abednego, need to know that if God tells me to walk into the furnace, He will be there with me to help keep me cool!

We cannot always understand what God tells us, but we can always obey knowing that if God is telling us, it's correct information and we can proceed with no fear.... doubts yes, trepidation probably, but no fear.

Don't stop short of the target.

Without fail all the success stories in the bible have been where the characters obeyed without question what God instructed them to do, and came out the winner, and equally all the disasters have been were people did NOT obey God, but had a better idea and followed that.

So as a bible believer I know that what God gives you nobody else can take away from you.

God may decide to let other people use His assets when it suits Him, and recently God has taken land from me to give to others, so I really do know what this means, but if God wants you to have back what He has given you, woe betide anybody who stands in His way.

God gave the promised land, to His chosen people, and that means that the Jews.... but who are the Jews?

Now fortunately God knows EXACTLY who is chosen and who is not, without a shadow of doubt.

The Jewish authorities kept very precise genealogies from time immemorial that traced their ancestry from Abram to Jesus, but those were destroyed when the temple was burned in 70AD by the Romans, and since that time no Jew has been able to prove with paper their heritage.

This lead to many anti semetic deniers gloating in the fact that no Jew could prove their right to the land, however God had allowed for these fools to be dismissed and when time was right, God allowed two scientists to provide the evidence (empirically proven no less ) that gave full providence to any Jewish blood line.

DNA evidence no less.

But that will show who has the bloodline, and will clearly be shown as most Jewish people share less than 150 'first mother' women's DNA, which has been preserved by the strict code of not allowing 'marrying out' from the faith.

The rate of intermarriage has diluted the bloodline by not more than 5%, which is pretty amazing when you compare the rest of the worlds blood lines, where intermarriage has scattered us world wide.

My blood line is wide and varied, with Danish and Irish blood in an English body which resides in Spain and is not really sure where it belongs any longer.

Ashkenazi Jews (who make up 90% of the current world population of Jewish folk ) have remained almost unchanged since the diaspora.

No wonder the Satan whisperers and ungodly anti-semites hate Jews.

But who are the Jews, who are Gods chosen people who will inherit the land, did not the Arabs, the Palestinians also share not just the land, but a common ancestor in Abraham?

Well, yes and no, you see Abraham was a common ancestor, but the line split when Isaac and Ishmael went differing ways, and the Jewish ancestry comes down the Isaac lineage, whereas the Arab ancestry stems from Ishmael.

The net result is that DNA tests done on Arab Israelis show that there are shared DNA traces, but that also the Arab blood line has been intermixed with many other blood lines, making them a whole different people from the Jews.

Correction, for not all Jews have been as selective as the Ashkenazi have been, for the Sephardic blood line has been diluted whilst they lived in Spain and Portugal and Morocco since the diaspora.

Sephardics are still discernably Jewish in their DNA, but they have also added some Medditerranean stock along the way, no doubt due to the Spanish moves to forcibly convert them to Catholicism and the subsequent title of 'conversios '  who to this day still exist in Spain.

Family's called by Jewish names like Peréz or García, who are good Catholics (or even bad Catholics ) several generations down the line, and who sometimes have no idea of their Jewish heritage whatsoever.

In the video above you will find something which may surprise you, you will find a Roman Catholic priest who is Jewish, and Evangelical Christians who have Jewish blood.

Mostly they stem from Sephardic blood stock, which is to be expected for as I've stated, the Ashkenazi have stayed apart, and these Jews are those who have lost their heritage in many ways, for centuries, but as one woman tells us, God has revealed who they are at just the right time.

I have many Messianic friends who worship Christ on a Saturday and generally keep many of the Jewish traditions, if not the law!

Are they unaware Christians who have felt the draw of their Jewish blood?

DNA testing costs a couple of hundred dollars, so unless you really care, nobody has it done.

If I had the cash I would do it myself out of curiosity, for who I am in history has a part to play in my life. Always has done ever since I found out there had been men living bearing my name for the last few hundred years.

But we drift of subject, and if we were in the forums someone would call me for off topic!

Who are Gods chosen people?

Well definitely the Jews are, but apparently the diaspora has caused us to not know who exactly has that Jewish DNA in their bloodstream.

In Hitler's Germany it was sufficient for the Gestapo to find one Jewish ancestor in the previous six generations to have you declared 'tainted' and suspect.

The maths on that are as follows:

  1. Parents = 2
  2. Grandparents = 4
  3. G Grandparents =8
  4. GG Grandparents = 16
  5. GGG Grandparents = 32
  6. GGGG Grandparents = 64

So if you had 1 in 126 of you ancestors with Jewish blood, you were at risk, an obviously the higher up that chain your Jewish ancestor was, the more the risk, to you.

Now can you see how determined Satan has been to destroy Gods chosen people, so driven that he has corrupted whole nations in an attempt to stop them being in possesion of their land, to stop Gods promises being fulfilled.

Still today the world seeks to stop God bringing His plans to fruition.

With the original Israelis God only found two men, Caleb and Joshua out of twelve sent into the land, who would obey and follow His commands, who would not doubt Gods word.

Today in secular Israel, there are many who would trade land for 'peace' - not realising or refusing to believe that God will not allow that to happen, that all they are doing is creating a worse scenario.

No wonder God has also hidden his 'remnant' amongst the peoples of the world, in the lost tribes of Israel, who disappeared after the Babylonian exile, and isn't it strange that just as Gods word has stated, the whole world is revolving around Israel.

Under six million souls surrounded by over 300 million Muslims who want to annihilate them.

Who are backed up with the resources of 1.5 billion fellow Muslims.

Every person alive in this world will fall on one side of this particular fence, they will either be with Caleb and Joshua, and declare that Gods word will not fail, or they will be with the other ten men who went with Caleb and Joshua, and deny Gods power and word.

Can you name one of those ten men who went with Caleb and Joshua?

Genesis 12:2-4

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Will you be part of the blessing or will you be cursed?


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    • Kahana profile image


      10 years ago

      An enjoyable hub which touches on a multitude of aspects. The DNA questions are not as black and white as the FT DNA project would like us to believe and that is why I still hold to the traditional aspect of father relating to son rather than one's Jewishness at the bottom of an eppindorf tube. I'll be writing more on that in the near future. But keep up the good work.

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      11 years ago

      I named my son Caleb, to embody a man of courage, strength and faith. We are christian by family, but agnostic in practice - but to me it matters not your beliefs except those of kindness, humility and oneness beyond the material plane. We all see the same thing beyond our eyes, heart and emotion, but call it different things which promote strife, angst and contempt.

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      11 years ago from North Texas

      A fascinating hub you wrote.

      One of my favorite Jewish radio talk show hosts, Dennis Prager, commented, "The Jews are the world's only intact ancient people. While a modern-day Egyptian would have nothing in common with an ancient Egyptian, a modern-day Orthodox Jew would have many, many things in common with a Jew from the Old Testament."

      Looking forward to more hubs on related subjects.

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      Judah's Daughter 

      11 years ago from Roseville, CA

      I wandered from God for 14 years and just got revived in March of 2009! I'm about ready to go back into the working world "slavery" (plug for your other great hub). It's been much easier to stay in the Spirit when I've been unemployed and home. I expect I will be challenged as the busyness of life can distract us from His still, small voice and prompting. I will be praying daily that I "hear" Him still.

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      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi JD, You are blessed indeed if you can stay in the Spirit 24/7/365, I find it more difficult when I need deal with the world!

      ....and yes, I agree, getting back takes longer when we wander.

      Do you truly NEVER wander?

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      Judah's Daughter 

      11 years ago from Roseville, CA

      In the 'small' things I have the discernment of the Spirit to guide me ~ He will cause me to fall under conviction if what I'm doing is not His will ~ He will tell me to wait, or prompt me to go in another direction. For big things, I ask the prayers of others with me, and to pray God make His will known, even step by step. I want to stay on His path, for it takes so much longer to get back on it when we wander. Blessings!

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      Dave Smith 

      11 years ago from Michigan

      I think that we will find out when the whole world turns against them. The secular state of Israel might turn to God, we will have to wait and see.

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      50 Caliber 

      11 years ago from Arizona

      A hub to ponder, but the water is too deep for me. so I'll leave this one to God Almighty as he already knows.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      JD.... "Not my will, but Thy will be done." is indeed a sound prayer to make, but unfortunately we also make decisions in life daily that sometimes are not prayed about.

      To make Jesus Lord of our life is the objective, but whenever Jesus is not Lord, we are.... Do you never make any decisions without prayer first.... not just the biggies, but the small things that change our lives (or can do) just as much as the biggies?

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      Judah's Daughter 

      11 years ago from Roseville, CA

      When I pray I always say as Jesus did, "Not my will, but Thy will be done." I still ask for what I think is best, yet He knows I trust Him more than I do myself, for sure!

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi Coffeesnob, "thoughts about God's permissive will and His perfect will." that's good, because we always need to know which is which.

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      11 years ago

      Great hub and good thought out into it. I guess I am pretty simple I just appreciated the info and the work gone into it, felt it relative to thinking through reasonably about where we stand with God and just chewing a while on the thoughts about God's permissive will and His perfect will.

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      Judah's Daughter 

      11 years ago from Roseville, CA

      I enjoyed this hub. We do know that Jacob was renamed Israel, so we know all Israelis are Jews; whether all Jews are Israelis is splitting hairs. Abraham is called the "father of faith" and is the grandfather of Jacob (Israel). I have a hub called "The Elect of God", which confirms we as Gentiles are grafted in, made one with the seed of Abraham in Christ. The elect are "the called, the chosen and the faithful" as shown in Rev 17:14. They are from all nations, tribes, peoples and tongues (Rev 7:9). Paul exhorts us to avoid genealogies in Tit 3:9 because I don't think it matters anymore :-)...except to the Antichrist, of course. Be blessed.

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      Sanctus Vesania 

      11 years ago

      Hi John,

      I must have missed that part.

      I'm also curious as to what comments this hub will get, because there are a number of views about who the Israelites are.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      11 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi Sanctus, First and fast off the mark again!

      There is no doubt that not all Israelis are Jews, and I thought I made it clear that I do not say they are.

      For years I was a Zionist, because I support Jews and Israel, then I realised what Zionism actually is, and I reverted to Gods opinions rather than popular (or unpopular) world views.

      Like I said, God knows EXACTLY who His people are, and we are grafted into that vine, GRAFTED IN, we are not the vine, nor a replacement for the vine.

      Let's see what this one brings comments wise!


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      Sanctus Vesania 

      11 years ago

      Hmmm, I may need to re-read this in order for it to sink in. However, I'm one of those people who doesn't believe that all Israelites are Jews.


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