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Eric’s Sunday Sermon; How to do Forfeiture

Updated on April 25, 2020
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Holding degrees in philosophy and Law. Formal studies or certificates or degrees in business, theology, insurance and security. Ex-preacher.

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You must forfeit a lot of time to hike this one.
You must forfeit a lot of time to hike this one. | Source

How Do You Feel About It.

Forfeiture is the act of giving something up. Forfeiture can be voluntary or compulsory or even just a taking. Most people think all the worst about forfeiture and that is fair but inaccurate. There is legal and illegal forfeiture and there is good and bad forfeiture. I forfeited my rights to certain activities upon marriage. Again there was forfeiture when I had children. There are also horrible forfeiture programs from government that are basically abominable.

Stay at home can be called forfeiture as in compulsory. Yes we gave up or had our rights to socialize taken away. Freedom of association is a God given constitutional right. It cannot be taken in this manner. It is unconstitutional in so many ways. So in essence that forfeiture was/is voluntary by law. If not then it is an illegal taking of a right – forfeiture without due process. Our laws are our laws and we are a nation of laws. The courts and the attornys General are not doctors. Doctors demanded the taking away of rights and we let them. How that will wash out in history will be interesting. What is the next emergency that gives rights for a segment to take away from another segment of society? Moral decay?

Hey I gladly voluntarily gave up my rights. My choice. I complain not an inch. Besides we are having a blast in that we were well situated for such issues.

Perhaps the greatest love we can have for another is to give up our lives for them. The extreme is death, the routine is a way of life. Just know that as a writer I fully appreciate your giving up or forfeiting your time to read and think on this sermon. Some will forfeit more for me and leave a comment.

If you combine a healthy dose of love with a voluntary forfeiture it is by far the greatest of gifts. Your time and effort given freely to another in need is just so fantastic it gives me goosebumps. The age old question; “Do some suffer so that others may rise to the occasion and give us a glimpse of heavenly love?”. That is twisted but in the real very real. Let us vow to give what we can when we can and it is needed. Expecting nothing in return except maybe those goosebumps.

We will look at some other aspects of this forfeiture stuff from different angles.

Freedom Reigns

The Sacrificed For Me

Perhaps time itself is the finest gift.
Perhaps time itself is the finest gift. | Source

Sometimes Wrongful

Illegal government taking. This perhaps is one of the greatest crimes of all time. Again to the extreme, death penalty and in the norm just taking your property. Just? Well not justly but rather unjustly. Suppose a thief steals your stuff. He is duly charged and duly convicted of the theft. First you take away his freedom or maybe just his money as a fine and victim relief. Then you force him to forfeit what he stole and return it to the rightful owner. Those are all very legitimate compulsory forfeitures. Suppose the government thinks he is a thief and without conviction they take property, money or freedoms away from the person thought to be a thief. By any rational standard that should be illegal. But it is generally a common practice by way of laws that allow your government to do it. I am not kidding here. Many billions of dollars worth of stuff and money has been taken this way every year. The Federal Government can seize property under 18 U.S.C. § 983. That is based on suspicion not conviction. That should be criminal.

People who are close to us can cause us to forfeit matters and things. Again it can be voluntary – good or involuntary, sometimes good and sometimes bad. We wonder if giving up something not good is really something we should be proud of. I gave up smoking voluntarily. I am all that proud of myself. Probably forfeiting something down right bad is really nothing to puff ourselves up about. Alcohol abuse, compulsive gambling, over eating, abusing others and so much more should be forfeited voluntarily through love for ourselves and others. Make no mistake abstaining is forfeiture of a right to do it. Is smoking a right?

I know a bunch of people who forfeited their interest in properties for the benefit of a family as a whole. Setting up trusts is a cool way to forfeit property and rights therein. It means you place them in a space where taking care of it is for the benefit of another.

501 (c) (3)s are a way of placing assets into a legal contraption where you forfeit any profit back into the charitable endeavor. (yes it can be abused, can’t everything)

So I hope that the above technical concepts set us into the right footing to think about loving forfeiture.

Heat Wave

How much do we forfeit for our children?
How much do we forfeit for our children? | Source

Just A Thought

Happy Days

“I give my life to God”. That is not a crazy statement. Especially if you believe that God is Love. It means that you forfeit your will for God’s will. We certainly hope you can discern that and feel confident that you can if your focus and filter is love. Do not spend time looking for voices from the clouds, look to the heavens through love and the answers will flow like the rivers to the sea.

But be careful in this area. In order for it to be a loving forfeiture it must be born of freewill. Otherwise no matter where the mandate came from it is not a gift but rather a charge against the property. We simply cannot fall back on “I had to”, that is not “freely”. Yet if you say I had no choice for anything less would be not loving, then you stand on solid ground.

I suggest, and this must be tempered by knowing of my base anti-materialism, that if the thing in our hands causes legitimate angst to another forfeiture my be the best option. Not to say if another whines and wants something you give it to them out of hand.

So the beggar on the street comes to mind. Hey make no mistake begging for a living can be one heck of a tough job, so they actually work for a living looking at it that way. I wonder what they had to forfeit in order to get in that situation. Probably each story different and some with voluntary and some compulsory or an out right taking away.

In some cases people forfeit what is their right in order to take care of others. We call to mind servicemen and women and nurses and first responders. We should not fail to mention our donations either in person or through banking. Most offering plates are passed for good causes. Churches are stepping up to provide services during these hard times. Now that is proper forfeiture of a churches resources.

It is my hope that this strange look into forfeiture leads one to immediately see that real charity requires some sacrifice. Some sacrifice just plain stinks while other sacrifice is near on heavenly. I propose that in order to really love we must invest in that love, and that investment is best made by sacrifice. If you have some time read Luke 20:45-21:4 it will moisten your eyes.

I just spent some time sacrificing my time to write this. I think I sacrificed it for my pleasure. Not real charity. But hey if just one person gets a blessing from this then I would gladly forfeit more.

I Can Smell It In the Breeze!!


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    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Tim, I think that drives our editors crazy. Like many of authority the like us to have commonality and not care so much about community. I like my job better.

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      Tim Truzy 

      12 months ago from U.S.A.

      Excellent. I enjoyed your article, Eric. Unique use of phrases and expressions is a hallmark of your skillful pen. Be safe.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Flourish I am with you here. I think we know this virus has subtle nuances that cause other problems. How bad we still don't know. I had a great GP once who said "Eric medicine is an art and we are one large experiment, what worked yesterday maybe not today and what worked on Joe may not work on Ann, oh and by the way you should not be alive." I am working on an article about what I call kicky-back. Take a chill pill people.

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      Devika Primić 

      12 months ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      A great word, Eric you used it in the best of ways and this write up is one of your best.

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      12 months ago from USA

      I liked your twist on this word. We all must willingly forfeit some of the things we enjoy so that we can have our lives back. I think this virus is ultimately more dangerous than we all know, given the stokes in young people from blood clots for example. And those are the ones who lived. We need to chill out and pull together.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Well a great day. I never heard "No one has become poor by giving." Something like it maybe. "those who give prosper". Thank you much.

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      Suchismita Pradhan 

      12 months ago from India

      What a writeup.I love the way you have used the word, forfeiture.We have to do it for the sake of humanity.No one has become poor by giving.So lets do it.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      And Dora you are the picture of giving and more, you teach folk like me to give in love. Thanks for being you.

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      Dora Weithers 

      12 months ago from The Caribbean

      "Let us vow to give what we can when we can and it is needed. Expecting nothing in return except maybe those goosebumps." This is a message I pray to heed and live by. Thank you.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Tery it is good to hear from you and thank you for letting me know. I hope Bulgaria is thriving even now. It seems like their exports are intergral and essential for most of us.

      A wise fellow said to always be ready to give it up without giving up.

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      Tery Peta 

      12 months ago from Bulgaria

      I rarely use this word, but thanks to your article, it will cross my mind more often. You gave a new perspective on forfeiture. Thanks, Eric.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Mel. My mail carrier is running a consistent 1.4 minutes later these days. And by her eyes she is apparently more tired. So I ask. Are you guys getting allowance for the extra time needed for "preventative measures". Or I could be wrong altogether.

      Something more going on?

      Here is my convaluted make a screenplay theory; France did it using double agents in China so in the long game we actually get China to pay the world for shutdown economies and cripple their (China's) economy along with military. China refuses and goes all isolationist causing them to war with Japan, India and Vietnam. The allies step in and take over China. Or is that "The Mouse that Roared". // love Yul Brennar.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Linda we do a lot of praying for others. Is it to assuade the guilt, like yours we feel? Kind of like survivor's guilt I reckon. Your question is right to the heart of it. "Love sacrifice" gives so much more in return, perhaps more of a purchase? Don't know.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Lori my biggest learning curb was handling 100's of foreclosure prevention cases as a consultant and the worst was as a criminal defense attorney.

      Nowadays it is all about me and mine and God. Glad forfeitures.

      Thanks for being such a good friend.

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      Mel Carriere 

      12 months ago from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado

      Okay dude, Abe Lincoln was and still is the greatest president of all time, and he forfeited habeus corpus. He slapped men in shackles for disagreeing with him. When the war was over everybody got their rights back.

      Nobody knows the truth about Covid 19. It is probably much worse than the media paints it. In other words this is a war. We need to hang tight, chill out. If we do that it will be over soon.

      I don't trust government but I scratch my head thinking why all the fuss over this one?

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      Linda Lum 

      12 months ago from Washington State, USA

      I really don't think that "forfeiture" has ever been in my vocabulary.but what little I am giving up is in love, so it's not really a forfeiture at all, right? I feel almost guilty for how untouched my life has been in all of this.

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      Lori Colbo 

      12 months ago from United States

      Outstanding. I'll bet your having been a lawyer helped you to see forfeiture in ways some people never understand. I love how Christ forfeited His will and went to the cross for us. A good Sunday to you Eric.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ruby, certain age groups with certain compromised immune systems need to do as you do. If we get it and get bad worse than others it is just selfish not to follow the guidelines. What I go get it and bring it home? Not on my watch.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Pamela we are following your lead. Why not. Our only essential is to stay well. Blessings your way.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Clive I sure have wasted sometime I wish I could get back. But such is life.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you John. I had never thought about it before like this either but it sure sounded like sacrifice another word I seldom use was so similar.

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      Ruby Jean Richert 

      12 months ago from Southern Illinois

      I always enjoy your sermons, a time well spent. I don't feel like I'm forfeiting my time by staying in. A new virus is dangerous because we do not have the medicine to treat it. My opinion. Thank you.

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      Pamela Oglesby 

      12 months ago from Sunny Florida

      I agree with all the things you said in this sermon. I never think about forfeiture but I do practice it at times. Right now I stay home now because I am a high risk and I do not want to get sick. I don't think that is forfeiture. I have practiced it for love.

      This is a good sermon today and I enjoyed reading it.

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      Clive Williams 

      12 months ago from Jamaica

      I gave up a lot of things in my lifetime. I want them back now.....but is about giving and taking. Happy Sunday Sir.

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      John Hansen 

      12 months ago from Queensland Australia

      Well “forfeiture” is not a word I use regularly, in fact I doubt I ever ever used it. That however doesn’t mean I don’t practice it in some ways, or am affected by it in others. You explained it brilliantly. It was my pleasure to forfeit some time to read this. Thanks Eric.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Bill you are too kind. Both would be laughing alright, at my twisted word structure. I hope it works to give pause and reflection. Gabe is not giving me much lately - and it is all to the good.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Chitrangada I so much appreciate your wonderful support.

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      Bill Holland 

      12 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Well damn if you ain't the wise one, now! Somewhere, up in heaven, there is an old English teacher who is smiling down upon you right now, high-fiving your old philosophy professor.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Swati. I am glad you enjoyed this.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 

      12 months ago from New Delhi, India

      Great article, with words of wisdom. The term Forfeiture, is explained well by your sermon. I feel enlightened.

      Thanks for sharing this, and the pictures are wonderful.

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      Swati Khandelwal 

      12 months ago from Nainital

      Very well explained

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Marlene I actually thought of you while penning this. After all foreclosure prevention and mitigations are a forfeiture issue. I did not have a good connect to include the notions here.

      Thanks for reading and the very nice contribution here.

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      Marlene Bertrand 

      12 months ago from USA

      This has been a blessing to me. You have described forfeiture in a way I have not heard before now. Thank you for forfeiting your time to write it.


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