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Eric’s Sunday Sermon; Love and Forgiveness

Updated on September 2, 2018
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Holding degrees in philosophy and Law. Formal studies or certificates or degrees in business, theology, insurance and security. Ex-preacher.

Francis of Assisi

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Wonderful

Now we all know that there are many words for snow especially to indigenous Alaskans (Eskimo? Maybe wrong) And we know that each and every snowflake is different. Of course we know that we cannot count them there are so many.

Love could be like a snowflake really. I believe it changes moment to moment and that being in the moment means we must adjust to our next moment. But clearly we would agree that there are many, many types of love. People really are like the snowflakes, no two exactly the same. So throughout all of time no two people exactly the same.

I like my organic no fat milk. Did you know it has every thing you need to keep your electrolytes balanced and healthy. Between that and Gatorade the difference is more sugar that you need in a day and more salt than you need normally. Gatorade is bad for normal people not working and sweating so hard for so long (marathon runner – roofer in Phoenix)

I raise it up about Gatorade and Milk. No two cows are the same and no two batches of added sugar are the same. Yes each stalk of cane is different.

Need I go further? We think not and any further would be boring and redundant yet differently boring and redundant. Stop!!

Check out what we left out. Forgiveness. No two forgiving are the same. Here is a fun one. I sometimes attend the San Diego Basilica Mission Alcala Church. (just cut and paste that) The first Catholic – or any, Church in New Spain. Excuse me California was New Spain.

So here is the deal, of the 50 or so countries I have been blessed to visit I would say I found a church building to visit in at least 40 of them. I dig church buildings. Do not forget to put on your bucket list at least the Mormon temple in Salt lake (yes I know they do not say Mormon anymore) Which brings us to Saigon, don’t miss some but maybe 5 would be enough. (Yes I know they do not say Saigon anymore) Which brings us to Cholula Mexico. Gold plated churches built on top of pyramids under the great active volcanoes of Popocatepetl and Iztaccihuatl. The National Cathedral in DC and hanging out for two days at the Vatican. Again I go on too long. But the point is that I love the structures of churches.

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Boring But Worth It

I hope we ran properly into this section. “Church structures”. I love church structures. Every church structure is different. The Catholics have differing parish structures for every micro culture. The ECUSA has differing notions than the Episcopals in Australia and Nigeria. Did you know that mission churches adopt local icons and suggest they are attached through Christ like saints.

Again I go on too long but Buddhist and Jewish temples are just amazing and again each cultures a little different to a lot different. Some places of worship have Presidents and Chairman of the boards. If you have never been to a big evangelical stadium type church you are missing out. The sermons are not strictly scriptural but the show is spectacular.

So oh my just too many to get into. Like snowflakes, no two the same so trillions times trillions different.

Now back to my Alcala Mission Church. I love it. The structure (litany) of the service. And the building structure. On Sundays it seems about 20% are non - Catholic tourists. Though I go several times a year since about 1999. I am a non-Catholic tourist also I presume. Many pictures shown here are of my boy growing up there. We went several times a week to give him preschool type structure – sit down and listen. Of course the little tyke would not but he kind of learned to pray and be grateful. As for discipline, forget about it. Funny but he started walking there and learned to crawl up steps. Each mid-week sermon was different.

So I am sitting in that church and things run through my heart and mind. Which will bring us to point in just a few more words. I like to think a lot. Some folks like boating or golf or knitting. I like thinking. I know that is kind of weird but I am different than you. Oops there we go going talking about differences again and I am really getting bored. I understand that neither Buddha or Christ ever taught the same service. And here we go.

A sermon in love is a lovely sermon. A sermon of mine to you in love elicits love. And I cherish you because your love to me is different than my four children and moms. Is it possible to have infinity love. My eight year old says “duh daddy” to that question. Limitless is a “genre” he likes.

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I Can Do It Foreve

So in a standard church service of traditional liturgy there is a prayer to God called “The Lords Prayer”. To my experience there are many over twenty versions and for each it is right for them and for each it is not right for others.

Everybody and I mean everybody has something to do with forgiveness. Even in the church that is your heart and what you call home with a congregation of marriage and or child. Every human being on earth forever has forgiveness in them. That is like cabillion time tabillion or infinity. And each time they do it, many many times in their life there is more infinity of forgiving.

So I am sitting in that church with two, clearly German and clearly back packers staying in hostels probably. Been there and done that. You know this because their smell is more human than soap or deodorant and their clothes just barely not wrinkled too much. And clearly not Catholic and probably not even Christians. Now I may not know much but I know just enough Aleman to get in trouble. But I know what they mean when they repeat vergebung and nod. My name is Dierker after all. The German translation is closer to “forgive, forgiveness and forgiving”. Kind of all rolled into one.

And then there were another 200+ souls. I know that lady is saying perdo’n which is Spanish and closer to what it sounds like “pardon”.

Me, I am just hanging out knowing that I really need to forgive myself before I forgive others and God is helping me with that but it is a slow learn.

So then the greatest of all billions of teachers tells us forgive 7x’s 70, or maybe even 70 times 70. 7 x’s 7 is 41 so add 2 zeroes and come up with only 4,100 times. Now you basically have 22 thousand days. (I think I have that right) So I think we are only forgiving about every five days. Or is that we only forgive one person every five days. I think I do about 10 a day. Not for them but I know resentment carried in the heart can literally and lovingly kill you. Just my son registered that yesterday as he was being properly 8 years old. Geese!

I resent bad products especially produce from a store. I resent my car for being too hot on hot days. Could I have a gazillion gazillion resentments that have to be forgiven?

Though some religions think they own forgiveness don’t buy that. Forgiveness is ethical no religious. Chew on that for a bit. I also like the “for” part. Just saying. No answers here.

Just a Note

It happened again. Sermon was perfect. Logical with fantastic grammar and a great subject of "Remarkable Times". Did it Friday and Saturday. Proofread and set to publish today. The perfect Sermon again. It stunk of lack of love. So this is from 4 am to now.

I need to get intoxicated with love and scream. Thanks friends.

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    • lambservant profile image

      Lori Colbo 

      7 months ago from Pacific Northwest

      I believe forgiveness is always possible, but there are deeply wounded people who refuse to. It makes me sad. I have trouble with resentment that the Lord revealed to me some time ago. But I saw it and realized how ugly and self-destructive it is and asked God to heal me of that sin. My blood pressure was soaring and I was a miserable human being behind the mask. Anyway, it has been a blessing to have God help me with that.

      The uniqueness of each human being is so beautiful and precious, and yet how often do we human's want to be like everyone else, either to gain their favor, to be out of our pain (which we think we are the only ones in pain). I'm sure there are other reasons. Some people would call that "normal." I was in a journaling class with people struggling with mental health issues. One day the topic of wanting to be "normal" like everyone else came up. The leader suggested we go home and look the word up in the dictionary. Here are the words used to describe "normal:"

      Usual

      Typical

      Average

      Everyday

      Regular

      Ordinary

      Routine

      Conventional

      Traditional...Etc. Etc.

      BORING!!! So I don't want to be "normal." Though I have to concede I have many character defects and my body is showing the signs of aging, I am glad that I am unique and I am glad you are unique. What an awful world this would be if we were not unique. God bless you, Mr. Unique.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      We foresee that tomorrow we will be back on track.

      Mary it really is a wonderfully way.

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      Mary Norton 

      8 months ago from Ontario, Canada

      I'm happy to learn that there wasn't really one. I rolled down and did not see any article of yours on that day. I like that meditation technique.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Mary excuse me but there was not one last week. Similar reasons.

      You say this just right. We set our sights and intentions high. And then accept ourselves.

      There is a technique in meditation where we put distractions on a leaf and watch them go down the creek.

      It was fun being a preacher and talking to people about failed forgiveness.

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      Mary Norton 

      8 months ago from Ontario, Canada

      I missed this last Sunday as we had all the family here. Eric, I have also a hard time forgiving myself eventhough all those I have hurt have long ago forgiven me. I still cringe when I remember the event but it makes me try harder today. It is hard to forgive and I have a very low score in this. Thanks for the reminder.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Manatita

      I am afraid you just laid down an ethic. Suggesting that "unconditional surrender is appropriate" and that somehow deviation will not bring conscious and subconscious awareness.

      So for me I try to follow a path as you describe. I also try to pass that along.

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      manatita44 

      8 months ago from london

      Thanks Bro.

      You are perfectly right! Most see it that way. The mystic sees the spiritual law, as infinitely higher than the moral law. Morality and ethics are of God, yes, but on a much lower plane of Consciousness.

      The spiritual law is infinitely higher than the ethical or moral law. In fact, we very often break the moral and ethical laws, in order to achieve something deemed for the greater good.

      Forgiveness is an inner law. You will find that if you hold on to hatred, it will do all manner of interesting things to you. What's needed is unconditional surrender … letting go. Not to worry bro. Just trying to serve. Peace.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Bill I think you are right about it being more for ourselves. I look at a good life and I try to act it. Probably a deal about a connection with God.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Gentlemen, sorry for taking so long to get back to you sometimes life gets in the way of life.

      Manatita I look at ethics pretty much the same as forgiving another and oneself. And a philosophical imperative to do what we can to avoid the need for either.

      But as usual your thoughts/feelings are enlightening.

      Thanks

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      William Kovacic 

      8 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      "Not for them but I know resentment carried in the heart can literally and lovingly kill you" For me, Eric, that sums it up. I think in many ways, forgiveness is more about me that the other person. Just wanted to add my daughter loves church architecture.

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      manatita44 

      8 months ago from london

      Nice! A 'ccol' sermon and I like your take on Love at the beginning. Francis was also a very powerful soul! You know this, of course.

      Forgiveness is a very big one. We are taught it as 'ethics' true, but Spiritual Masters from time immemorial, has held it in the highest esteem. In that sense, it is infinitely deeper than an ethic. So many speak of this sudden release, the knot taken away from the Heart when they finally 'let go.' Yet it is not easy, as we know.

      "The age-old discovery --

      Forgiveness, forgiveness, forgiveness,

      Is the only way to real happiness." -Sri Chinmoy.

      Have a great weekend.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Dora. That concept is in serious need of contemplation. Between and with you and Mona I see it in me. How can I resent me? No problem I will ask my boy this evening.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Mona my sweet it is lovely to hear from you. I got up giggling about me this morning. At 3am God cracked a case for me. You are so right. Enough with this bad judgment of me!!

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      Dora Weithers 

      8 months ago from The Caribbean

      Church? Forgiveness? Prayer? You always have a unique insight to offer with a slam dunk. "Resentment carried in the heart can literally and lovingly kill you." That's a sermon in a sentence.

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      Mona Sabalones Gonzalez 

      8 months ago from Philippines

      Eric, you have such a lovely way of looking at things. That is also one cute adorable little boy you have in your photos. I hope you will be able to practice self-compassion. You deserve it. Maybe you should write a letter to yourself once a month, and write about all the things you like about yourself. I think it will help you in your journey of forgiveness.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Ann. London was first stop in 1972. After a respite in a hostel, my big sisters dragged me out of jet lag and off to Westminster. About two days later to Edinburgh to St. Mary's. Of course they liked your home area more for cemetaries -- which were attached to the churches there.

      I apologize but we got some "tunnel" down near Dover and getting ready for the ferry. There was a church there that did not belong. Nobody near by with burial markers 500 years old.

      Oh I think that if I threw in the Underground and Victoria Station I could write for a month of your islands.Buckingham would take five pages. How about our bridges and dungeons and rivers?!!

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      Ann Carr 

      8 months ago from SW England

      This made me smile permanently as I read, Eric. You have such a way of conveying your stream of thoughts onto paper (or screen, if you like).

      I love churches too. We have so many beautiful ones in Britain that it's impossible to name them without feeling guilty about omitting the others. Cathedrals, Minsters, parish churches, chapels, the list goes on. The architecture is always different and each difference is good, is educational, is wondrous to behold.

      Thanks for a great read, Eric.

      Ann

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      Ioannis Arvanitis 

      8 months ago from Greece, Almyros

      Ha! I will gladly answer your questions, my brother, if I can, with the proper madness! But remember you are the master, not me.

      Respect!

      Sean

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Loannis,

      We are of accord of the peaceful satisfaction of both of sentient beings.

      I will ask you a few questions. You may put them here or not. Remember please that I know the detractors of both Buddha and Christ and Tawa our Sun.

      I am a nutcase Christian and will approach you with that possible volatility.

      Here it comes, a master sophist with a master "Well Being"?

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      Ioannis Arvanitis 

      8 months ago from Greece, Almyros

      Now I can see why I like you so much, my brother. We are both addicted to Love and Forgiveness! And yes, I believe too that Forgiveness is ethical no religious!

      I Forgive you for being so awesome!

      Sean

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Dana you live in a place called the City of Angels. That is fitting for you. I would just seem to me that you passed your love forward to me. And that love is felt here and sent back to you. For this is my belief is God. There is nothing to touch, except with our heart. And your heart touched me.

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      Dana Tate 

      8 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      Such a fitting hub for me today Eric. Love just like a snow flake is not the same and changes all the time. The love I may have for my partner may start out one way but may change over time growing deeper or dimmer. The love I have for my parent's is certainly different than the love I have for my siblings and the love for my friends is certainly different than all the love above. Let's not forget my Creator where the love is indescribable.

      Also, forgiveness: it's not the same either. I can forgive someone and we can pick up as before. Yet, someone else I choose to forgive may receive my forgiveness but our relationship may be different based on the circumstances.

      Out of all your hubs, and I have read most since I have been following you for I think four years now, this one is my favorite. It's right on time for me.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Liz your are awesome with a great point. We are debating which church to go to today. The reservoir or the canyon. We already did catch and pitch and volleyball. Mom is up so I shut-up on boy stuff. Peace be with you.

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      Liz Westwood 

      8 months ago from UK

      As a tourist I have visited a lot of church buildings. Sadly many of them are like museums. Back in the day a community must have built them for a reason that got diluted, lost and crowded out in the intervening years. The world could do with a lot more love and forgiveness these days.

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      Pamela Oglesby 

      8 months ago from Sunny Florida

      Thanks Eric for your words. I love that thought.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Pamela I sat between a 20 year veteran Choral singer and a Gal from the Sacred Hearts of Louisianna nun today. I figure 80 and 65. We just kicked up a storm singing. We knew the words with no stinking book. But Agnes, not the sister, but the other one pointed out the stations of the cross in stained glass. 200 years old.

      If God is love, Art is love so God is Art. Just very tiny thought.

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      Pamela Oglesby 

      8 months ago from Sunny Florida

      Eric, I have thought we are each unique under God's eyes, and forgiveness is essentual if you wan to live a peaceful life. I agree that forgiving yourself comes first.

      i love old churches also, especially those with stained glass. I make stained glass art, but not as often latelly. I love to look at the old stained glass windows in churches.

      Very interesting article.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      We must be Hispanic here on the border. We must be Anglais, Viet and some German.

      But studies include the grace of latin.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc3d58wZ5sE

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      Linda Lum 

      8 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Eric, we always leave our shoes at the door (but when you consider that we leave in a wildlife sanctuary, it's understandable). I didn't know it was a Vietnamese thing.

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Linda, my great wife and I play "your people" games. Vietnamese are strange to us and us big old white guys are strange to them. It is a garden of love for diversity. "Honey your people leave your shoes at the door for me to fall over". "Eric, your people are so gross they wear shoes in the house". And our boy weighs the thoughts. We even act all mad. Yes our differences are what make us the same. Totally strange!! ;-)

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Elijah. My son wrote it out right. And looked at me ensconced when he saw I did it wrong. "Son if they care about the exact numbers they kind of missed the point huh". On the other hand they could be like us and love numbers. Either way, we share and not preach.

      "Dad, you are strange". "Son that is a deal".

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      Eric Dierker 

      8 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Bill I had some "time off" this day. Shovel and clear for 15 and then with towels to protect my desk and "stuff" a bit from my sweat, and then physical rest and the treasure of spiritual-love for the other 15 and repeat. And love and repeat.

      Our great homehold of prayer welcomes yours and back at ya.

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      Linda Lum 

      8 months ago from Washington State, USA

      I like the thought that we are all unique (like snowflakes) and so the love that each of us shares is unique, because the love in our hearts is made up of all of the minutes and moments and experiences that make us "us". Did I get that right?

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      8 months ago from Washington DC

      ... but you need to go back to math class, Eric. (lol) 7 X 7 = 49 so 70 X 7 + 00 = 49,000. Just for fun since numbers have always been my thang and why I'm always looking for a Sudoku to work.

      You know Eric, forgive is one of the few words I am still working to find a meaning to, no dictionary definition nor any other definition I've heard or read has hit the "that's it" button with me. Please allow me to hear your, or anyone else's, definition for it. I wonder if that word has as many different meaning as there are people? Overall the message hit a spot. Thanks.

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      Bill Holland 

      8 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Rather than comment directly about this article, instead I'm going to send you some extra prayers, one buddy to another. I suspect you could use them (as we all could) Take care my friend!

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