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How would you feel if God saved all of Humanity?

Updated on May 30, 2013

Seek who He truly is

I posted this question not too long ago in hope to read positive results and in hope to open spiritual eyes to see this as a possibility. I personally believe that God saved all of humanity, and there was some wonderful answers. But it was no surprise to get theological responses. What surprised me was that most of the responses were church theology responses and very few responses of gratitude. It hit me that most of those who answered with theology instead of gratitude came across as if they didn’t want all to be saved. The question is, how would you feel if God saves all of humanity? My answer is; There is nothing more beautiful or wonderful for that matter, than a deity who can and will save all of its creation, and therefore, I am and always will be grateful to such a God. Such a God is the true example of what Mercy and love is all about. This example of love and mercy is not conceivable in humanity, let alone the Christian community. We as Christians have lost so much in truth as to who our divine Father truly is. We call Him a God of unconditional love, but it us who put conditions on it. We know that God also commands us to love, bless and forgive our enemies, but we make Him set the example of how He treats His enemies by letting them be eternally tortured roasting without any hope in some place called hell and call that justice. God says in 1Tim 2:3-4 that He desires and wills all to be saved, but we say that God desires, wills and can only hope all are saved. God says in 1Tim 4:10 that He is the saviour of all mankind, especially the believers, but we Christians say that He is the saviour of believer only. God says in Rom 8:37-39, that there is nothing that can separate us from His love, but we Christians say that it is our free will that can separate us from God forever. God says in John 15:16 that God chooses us, but we say that we must choose Christ. God says in Philippians 2:13 that He works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure, but we say that It is NOTHING that works in you to will and to do because you have a free will that is not caused by anything, including God. God says in Jeremiah 32:27 that He is the God of all, and that there is nothing He can't do, but we say there is one thing that is too hard for God: the salvation of ALL mankind. Does the church believe the fire in I Cor.3:15 burns mans’ works, but not the man himself? Yes. But does the church teach that this same fire in Rev.20:15 also burns works, not the man? No. Does the church believe that God absolutely "knows all" (I John 3:20)? Yes. But does it teach that God knows in advance ALL who will reject Christ? No. There never seems to be an end to scriptural contradictions in Christian beliefs, but praise be given to God who encourages us to seek His treasure dug deep in the bible, as the journey continues, the treasures found in scripture are truly inspiring and divine, and gives me a feeling of absolute joy in knowing He has save all mankind.


It has been six months now since I wrote this hub, and not much has changed among the Christian belief system. I find that the more opened minded the Christian believer is, the more they except the belief of universal reconciliation of all with God, and the more they are filled with Joy and peace. However, I do want to share a secret with you. I have believed in universal reconciliation now for a number of years, but there are times (moments), that I wished there was a hell. Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful for my belief in UR, but when I see the evil in the world where brother or sister commit such evil to another sibling, there are times I want this judgment. It is my carnal desire for justice. An eye for an eye. So I cannot in good faith blame those who would not find heaven appealing if even the most evil of all people are saved in the end. This feeling I get at times troubles me. I believe it was my Lord, who brought me to this way of thinking or wanting this form of justice to show me that I too have this plank in my eye. Pride is a horrible thing that can so easily slip into a Christians attitude. Peace on earth.


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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      Luke 17:20 Now, being inquired of by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God is coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with scrutiny.

      21 Neither shall they be declaring 'Lo! here!' or 'Lo! there!' for lo! the kingdom of God is inside of you."

      The kingdom of God is in the here and now. Not in the afterlife.

      2 Thess 1:9 Is Paul encouraging the early believers that their persecutors who were Jews will face God's wrath as prophesized by Malachi, John the Baptist, Christ and Paul himself. God's fire reigned down on Jerusalem AD70 killing over 1,100.000 Jews. Paul did not teach about hell, because he never uttered the word hell. If God wanted Paul to warn the gentiles about such a place, Paul would of use perfect clarity and detailed descriptions about it. BTW, 2 Thess 1:9 isn't eternal destruction, there is no such thing as eternal destruction, Paul said "eonian extermination", meaning physical death. Get a better translated bible next time. We are done.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - Do you not know that *the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God*? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor sodomites nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. (NAB)

      2 Thessalonians 1:9 - These will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, separated from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, (NRSV Catholic Edition)

      Yes, Paul taught Hell.

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      The catholic version is written to suit the catholic belief.

      Here is a more accurate translation to Acts 20:27 for under no circumstances do I shrink from informing you of the entire counsel of God. (Concordant version)

      The Greek word "boulEn" does not mean purpose, it means counsel. Counsel as in teaching us all what God wants us to know. Yet never in Paul's letters do you find him warning the gentiles about Gehenna fire, let alone a place called hell.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      Here's an image that reminds me of you right now.

      http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/origin...

      Again,

      "for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole purpose of God." (NRSV Catholic Edition)

      In the traditions as well as in the Bible (1 Cor. 11:2).

      And what about the Gospels? And FYI, this is just the *purpose* of God. You are wrong.

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      Acts 20:27 says that the apostle Paul taught us all what God wants us to know, and I get why you think that any thing out side of your belief is wrong. Be cause you think you are right. It is called pride.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      Oh dear, not another conspiracy website. I just checked them out. They link to Ian Paisley? That is not a Catholic website at all. You cannot trust it if it comes from a fundamentalist to have any accurate information whatsoever.

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      In his writings, no. In traditions that were passed along to the Early Church and established in the seven sacraments and the seven ecumenical councils, yes.

      Sword, I honestly don't think you have a problem with Hell per se, I think you have a problem with the Southern Baptist/Jonathan Edwards style preaching about it.

      I think if you honestly considered and talked to an Orthodox or a Catholic priest/bishop for a long time on the subject, I think you would also repudiate universalism and see Hell as merciful.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjHGtCHyBrU

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      Did the apostle Paul teach us all what God wants us to know?

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      Sword,

      There are very few, if any, turn-or-burn Catholic or Orthodox preachers. That's really a modern Western Christian thing. There's a lot less black and white when you look at Catholic and Orthodox perspectives on Heaven and Hell. As I argued in my article that you appeared not to have read, Hell is when we close ourselves off from everyone and cease loving. Further, we do not speculate on who is in Hell. When I see person, the last thing on my mind is "are you going to Hell?" And I certainly do NOT believe in a literal eternal fire. I believe that is figurative language that both the Catechism and the Bible use.

      I really would have no problem with everyone going to Heaven but this is a conditional problem only. I have no problem with everyone going to Heaven IF everyone WANTED to go to Heaven. But this is not true. It's what I've been trying to tell you and I strongly urge you to read my blog.

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      Universalism is not spiritual terrorism. It is the message that brings hope, peace and joy to the heart. But those turn or burn preachers teach that God says repent and follow my commandments or you will burn FOREVER because I love you. You decide.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      Here you go Sword. I hope you get a chance to read all of it and consider it.

      http://newenglandsun.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/hell...

      I do explain why I think universalism is the true form of spiritual terrorism.

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      I get it now. Your a catholic and that explains everything. You think everything outside of the catholic church is going to hell, yet your current pope recently said that even atheists are saved. Pope John Paul II also was a Universalist and believed that all are saved.

      All means all. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

      You form and twist scripture according to your carnal desires and your image of the god you worship is a hypocritical monster with anger issues allergic to sin. God commands us to love, bless and forgive our enemies unconditionally, yet you set your image of the god you worship as the example as to how it will treat his enemies, and the reason why is this. If you combine a carnal view to scripture with fear, blind ego, self-righteous pride, a hidden desire for vengeance and spark the religious engine with a pharisaical spirit. You get a determined believer of hell. A spiritual terrorist. To suppose that God would bring beings into existence for both His purpose and pleasure who He knew in advance without mercy would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him a hypocrite with the utmost malignity.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      Your god is more like this.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6ju9MUMh8

      A *rapist*.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      The KJV says so? I'm not a KJV-onlyist nor do I even use the KJV. I use Bibles such as the RSV/NRSV Catholic Editions, the NAB, the OSB (which is based on the NKJV), the EOB (when it comes out), the NJB and the JB.

      Psalm 139:8 - If I ascend to heaven, thou art there! If I make my bed in Sheol, thou art there! (RSV Catholic Edition)

      Psalm 139:8 - If I ascend to the heavens, you are there; if I lie down in Sheol, there you are. (NAB)

      Sheol is the inquiry. Maybe purgatory. It sounds like it could be purgatory based on its name. What we are talking about though is Gehenna, where the worm does not die and the fires do not go out.

      Colossians 1:15-16 does not mention Hell now does it? The word "all" does not always mean "absolutely everything". God created everything good (Is. 45:7 is more of a complex passage). Hell is the absence of God and therefore not good but rather a result of corruption of free will.

      Let's assume though you are right and God did make Hell does this mean he's evil? No. Because if there is only one choice, there is no free choice. More likely, he just allowed for it's existence so people could have free will. Preaching Hell is not profitable. At least for me.

      That does not look a thing like my god in Daniel 3.

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      If hell exists, He made it and here is the verse to prove it.

      Col 1:For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

      Hell is the absence of God is it? The KJV says otherwise. If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. Psalms 139:8.

      You have a zeal for the image of God you worship, but you have no clue as to what you worship, so I will show you. The image of the god you worship is found in scripture, and here it is...

      Dan 3:1King Nebuchadnezzar made an image of gold, sixty cubits high and six cubits wide,a and set it up on the plain of Dura in the province of Babylon. 2He then summoned the satraps, prefects, governors, advisers, treasurers, judges, magistrates and all the other provincial officials to come to the dedication of the image he had set up. 3So the satraps, prefects, governors, advisers, treasurers, judges, magistrates and all the other provincial officials assembled for the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up, and they stood before it.

      4Then the herald loudly proclaimed, “Nations and peoples of every language, this is what you are commanded to do: 5As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up. 6Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace.”

      The reason why you both endorse and support your pagan hell is because you need its existence. You believe that your image of god believes that all in this eternal horror pit get what they deserve and therefore you as well believe that the dammed get what they deserve. You call Universalism a heresy, yet you failed to see that the apostle Paul never taught or warned about such a place to the gentiles. Paul brought the Gospel of Universal reconciliation (2Cor5) to all who would listen. I use to believe in your pagan hell, I give praise to God for showing me the corrupt teachings in the church.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      http://www.catholic.org/hf/faith/story.php?id=4380...

      "Universalism is a heresy because it is a half truth. Christ did die for all, but the universalist only holds on to that part of the truth. He denies the other half of the full truth, that not everyone will accept that grace and therefore some will go to hell."

      You accept the first part but not the second.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      How do you know God was the one who created it? You're just simply trying to lump me in with each and every one of these Hell preachers who cannot recognize God's love. Look dude, the reason *I* believe in Hell is not because I was "scared" into believing it, it's because if Hell (the absence of God) is non-existent, God is essentially a rapist.

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      SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

      @newenglandsun. I am not interested in false teachings from false teachers. They have a zeal for God, they just don't have the knowledge of who He is. It is only natural that that article makes sense to you. Because you don't realize it, but deep down inside, you desire the existence of hell. If hell is real, God created it making Him responsible for those destined to go there and btw, punishment is corrective, not vindictive.

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      newenglandsun 3 years ago

      Sword,

      Please read this article on Hell. No one likes it but really, it actually makes quite a lot of sense. I think your difficulty is you have a hard time imagining people who love wickedness and despise beauty.

      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2013...

      And while it is punishment, it is not a direct punishment from God.

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      It is people like you who have twisted scripture to suit your hidden desires for vengence, and now you will use a pagan belief such as buddhism to support your belief? For someone who calls himself a christian, you have no shame. You couldn't answer my question about Paul because you can't. That is my proof that you desire hell.

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      William Benner 4 years ago from Savannah GA.

      For your sake...quit twisting everything! For Christianity is not the only religion that believes in hell. Even in Buddhism there is a concept of hell as a life condition. None of your arguments hold any water!

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Judgement you speak about in psalms 1, happened when Babylon defeated and conqured Israel destroying the temple. If hell is real, why didnt Paul warn the gentiles about it?

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      William Benner 4 years ago from Savannah GA.

      Then why did Paul tell us that he had to "die daily" , if it did not matter what one did? The bottom line is that it is all about free will and there are some that do not want to be saved, so, what would be so loving about a God forces "His" will on those that do not want to spend eternity with Him? The Bible is full of verses that speak of the consequence of those who do not want to follow God's way.

      Read Psalms One carefully, especially the last three verses.....It speaks clearly of judgment that all must face. Go ahead and deny that there will not be a consequence for those who chose to not to believe or follow God. This is between you and God!

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Out of context? It does take much context in scripture to show any non-believer how foolish the belief of a god who created hell, and yet he still loves us is.

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      William Benner 4 years ago from Savannah GA.

      In my opinion you are taking that verse out of context, like much of the other verses you use to try to promote the idea that no matter what we do, we will be saved. What I Believe David is trying to say is that there is no where we can go that God can not find, or be with us. It does not mean that we cannot be separated from God by our actions if we refuse to repent.

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      You mean eternal seperation such as this? Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.

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      Mitch Alan 4 years ago from South Jersey

      All will understand the truth, yes. But, not to salvation.

      Eternal separation is taught in Scripture. We may not like it or completley understand why this is so, but it is clearly taught.

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Every knee shall bow and tongue confess that Christ is Lord. In other words, all will eventually except the grace of God with Joy.

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      Mitch Alan 4 years ago from South Jersey

      Romans 10:9

      "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved" IF you confess and believe in your heart...you WILL be saved. It does not say, Christ dies and you ARE saved. Salvation is for those that accept the free gift personally.

      If I offer you a free gift and you do not accept it, you do not have the gift regardless of whether I "purchased" it for you or not.

      We'd all like to think that somehow everybody "gets in", but that is not born out by Scripture. He is Loving AND Holy. Both parts make up the need for and the fulfillment of salvation.

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Malachi tells us that God is finished with Judah and their senseless sacrifices. Every life givin and taken is all part of His overall plan. We all have to die eventually. Some sooner than later. All things created belong to Him.

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      William Benner 4 years ago from Savannah GA.

      So what would be the point of them having to die in the first place?

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Learn this. Christ brought three forms of salvation. The salvation of the Jews who believed in their messiah and were saved from God's wrath AD70 with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and over 1.1000,000 Jews. Secondly, He saved all mankind from the sleep of death in our graves, 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. Paul taught in 2 Cor 5 the ministry of universal reconciliation of all with God as well. And third, Christ came to save us all from ourselves. Yes all are saved who died in the flood, I Peter 3:18-20

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      William Benner 4 years ago from Savannah GA.

      So does this also means those who died during the flood? Are they also saved? And if we are all saved what are we doing hear in this fallen world? What is the point? God wants us to come to him freely, and not all have done that....They have the chance to be saved but will they allow them selves to be saved?

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      SwordofManticorE 5 years ago from Burlington

      That's the thing friend, accepting the gift of salvation is not necessary. Once a gift is given, it no longer belongs to the giver, it belongs to the recipient, whether the recipient knows it or not. Every knee shall bow, and tongue confess that Christ is Lord. The gospel in definition means "The Good News". To most, this means that salvation is possible for all, but only some will receive it. To me, this great news means that all have been saved by the blood shed on the cross. It's a done deal already. And thank you for your encouragement, I just recently received a treasure of truth to how merciful and loving God truly is, praise God.

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      Frank Slovenec 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA

      Seek and you shall find, I encourage you to keep digging into the truth which is the Bible...Nothing can separate us from God's love, He gave His only Son for our salvation...If you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you will be saved, pretty simple accept the gift of salvation! Good thoughts keep seeking and challenging the Holy Spirit will show up.