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It's interesting that you were a humanist and became a god follower, can I ask why?

Updated on June 16, 2011

Cyborg527 asked the question, I will reply in this hub, as it looks too long for an 'answer' in the Hub Questions sections!

Why I became a believer?

Evidence, I found evidence that God was trying to speak with me, I followed the leads and started the relationship, the evidence of His existence increased with each passing day, even on the days when I was not talking or listening to Him.

Too many people join a religion, I started a relationship, sure I visit religious houses and meet to fellowship with folk, but my relationship is with God, through Christ, and it's that way because that is how God wants it to be.

As a humanist I thought I was a nice person, good to those who I considered 'inside' my circle of protection (from me) willing and able to use anyone outside that circle as part of my personal food chain.

Logic had taught me that in truth: nobody had the right to require me to do anything I did not wish to do, and that is the truth for every human being living.

The logical end place of rational thinking must lead to personal anarchy, unless they chicken out at some lovey dovey point earlier and set their camp in that comfort zone.

Logic will always lead you to anarchy, but as most logical thinkers realise that anarchy can only work in a well ordered society, they understand that it's an oxymoron, so they decide to pitch camp earlier than the summit, and then they need to decide WHO sets the parameters of their individual freedom of choice.

Gets complicated, which is why most folk stay on the foothills of self interest, called self determination.

They want to continue believing they are in control!

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most
significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United
States to change it's perceptions." -- Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference,
Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

My crux point came when I realised the truth, and could no longer fool myself about who controlled my life, if it was to be me, then what were MY parameters?

I had already set my stance, nobody controlled me, everyone was, at my sole discretion, a part of the food chain (me included to those more powerful than I) and if I cared to use them to my advantage, so be it.

So using that as a benchmark, I could fathom that, as most folk are slumbering in their supposed ordered lives, content to live within the structures enforced upon them, as long as they were comfortable and left undisturbed, or at least abused slowly and with some care.

The food chain was therefore wide and varied, and as an accomplished scammer, I could hope to avoid most of the predators above me in the food chain, whilst utilising those beneath me.

Mr. Nice Guy huh!

But I had realised that I was NOT Mr. Nice Guy, so allowing for no constrains, barring getting caught out and punished by whoever caught me, my real decision was, do I want to do this, shall I get filthy rich by my predatoriness and 'enjoy' life whilst I could, or was there anything else to consider?

Logic then told me that I should explore what 'else' may be of consequence in my life, which led to exploring religion, and eventually specifically the claims made by Christ.

Now I had reached a point where I had to decide who was telling the truth.

  • Was Christ a liar?
  • Was Christ a madman?
  • Was Christ who He said He was?

My profile tells you my conclusion, but my life since then, tells me that it was the correct conclusion.

It is a fallacy for anyone to believe they control their lives, beyond the simplest aspects.

The real question therefore is, who does control my life?

We are all controlled by either the spirit of the world or God.

God gave us very clear guidelines to work with, His rule book covers any aspect or decision we need make.

The world offers a shifting sand perception of freedom, which in truth is the freedom to make mistakes and pay for them.

The worlds rules change daily, the perception shifts as the dark powers who (thinking as I used to do) control this world, dictate what they wish, to ensure control over their personal food chain (that's all those below them).

We ALL ARE ALREADY on one side or the other, you just get to chose whether you ascend the food chain, or step right out of it and chose to let God control what happens in life.

However unless you were born into one of 300 specific family's, you will never be more than a slave to those who really control things, at their beck and call, and instantly disposable if you make waves at any time.

Essential knowledge

These first two videos will show anyone who is still awake what is REALLY happening in the world system, you can ignore them, that's what the power elite wish you to do, or you can spend some time looking through them and get enlivened.

We ALL make our choice, some by default, some by decision, doing NOTHING is by default; submitting to the NEW WORLD ORDER, or whatever we wish to call this bunch of amoral blood suckers who control those in the world who do not think.

If you really want to believe you control your own life, get on board with these creeps and slowly ascend the ladder of deception, or pretend to be Mr. Nice Guy and live on the foothills of delusion, gently fleecing those whom you are allowed to, and who allow you to do so.

The third video is by someone who is at least trying to take back America, he is still misguided in believing that we humans can do anything against the dark powers ranged against us, but at least he is trying to do something positive.

In truth, God has it under control, the NEW WORLD ORDER will fail, and, having read the end of the book, I know God wins.

You just need to decide which side you will be on.

Now I have answered the question, and it's your turn to decide, or work out, where YOU stand, in the food chain, and as far as WHO controls your life.

I wish you well.

Ex M16 guy tells the truth!


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    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      9 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      I think the Queen of England probably counts as Christian, but of course it is debatable when someone supports the NWO whether they can be relied upon to tell the truth about their beliefs, or even know themselves what they really believe in.

      Apart from that it would be fair to say that much of the hierarchy would be Jewish by their bloodline.

      Thanks for visiting James, good to see you.


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      James A Watkins 

      9 years ago from Chicago

      Thank you for this awesome expose, John. I enjoyed it. One might note that none of the New World Order families are Christians. Most are Jews—unobservant Jews that is. Am I correct?

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      9 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Allen, thanks for the comment, it made me read the hub again, at my age I forget what I write! Anyhow, thanks for commenting.

      I am surely an imperfect vessel for our Lords Holy Spirit to inhabit, yet He does on occasion, and when He does, lives change and I feel that it's all worthwhile.


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      Allen Werner 

      9 years ago from West Allis

      John, thanks for writing this hub - it made my day! Most people don't understand what freedom really feels like in Christ. To give yourself wholly and completely to Him, to step out of the rat race and the vicious circle of life that not the Lord, but man has created, is exhilirating. Competition is a food chain, a pecking order. Mankind has made this devised pecking order a gold standard of Democracy. There is no logic in healing a withered hand, and there is no price to put on it. It is just the right thing to do. By faith, what needs to be done can be done but in the world today, without the wealth, without the self-determination, without the strategy, without the credentials and licenses, what needs to be done doesn't get done. Nations as well as people speak of self-interest all the time and yet try to mix it with charity and love. As you said, that is just trying to decide who is inside your food chain and who is outside it - people truly have pitched camp at the base without ever trying to climb the hill. Who controls my life? The Messiyah Yahshua! I'm not saying my life is perfect or without trials and tribulations. He never said it would be. All He promised me was salvation through the resurrection, the afterlife. I have given this life to Him for that one. And believing that makes it easy to forgive, to turn the other cheek, to love and give and not care what kind of value people in this life place on things. Be well John - this was a great testimony! Allen - Peace

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      I suggest that recognition of the truth will require a change in 'modus operandi' which is abhorrent to most folk.

      Looks like I will be in Penang longer also, keep in touch re dates!

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      10 years ago from Australia

      I have no idea why so many people doubt the validity of the OWG, or NWO, calling it a religious conspiracy theory, giving themselves an easy way out of doing their own research to "prove" it is so!

      Interesting videos.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi always exploring, Hub duly on the way explaining the 300 family's, but may take a while as they are quite secretive for obvious reasons!

      Thanks for reading and commenting.


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      Ruby Jean Richert 

      10 years ago from Southern Illinois

      I believe what you write is truth. We can see it every day. The whole world is coming apart. Geed has taken over. I wish you would explain the 300 families. People who do not believe in God, think we are fools, how sad. Thank you.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi amillar, yes, when you look behind the obvious creeps, those being most politicians, one can see the hand of dark forces at work.

      The elite are immune to our reasoning, I have met them, they are oblivious to any concerns but their own.

      On the other hand, there are only 300 family's to depose and things might change!

      When I was young, I heard "Come the revolution" a lot from my friends, hopefully they have not grown old and comfortable, for it may be that it is the baby boomers who need to lead the charge!

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      10 years ago from Scotland, UK

      Hi Aguasilver,

      It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if such elitist cabals proved to be true; I would be most surprised if they proved untrue.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Well if Christ is a vice, I welcome the addiction to Him, and hope your Integrated thought process serves you well in life, as well as death. LOL!

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      Raymond D Choiniere 

      10 years ago from USA

      Hey John, when are people going to learn, not every statement is a belief, nor is it opinion. It just goes to show you've not learned anything really meaningful, except how to deceive yourself, through your own faulty use of your perception. But, you're welcome to form your beliefs and bring about what you want. However, I realize you wrote the hub to answer someone else's question and you pointing it out wasn't actually needed or warranted.

      Ultimately, the new Integrated thought process coming in the future is definitely the way to go and I unfortunately am unable to tell you how I know this, except to let you know, I've been learning it for the past few years. I didn't have any doubt about you rejecting what I said. I know you think you've figured it out, but like I said, you've only traded one vice for another and cannot tell the difference. LOL!

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi Cagsil, you are of course entitled to your opinion, however I am not bound by it, and I reject your hypothesis completely.

      No offence meant!

      I was asked a question and I answered it, if other believers wish to reprimand me, I will listen, but secular folk hold no sway with me, and I cannot any longer be bothered to counter the accusatives levelled at believers or me specifically.

      Ultimately we will all know who is right or wrong in their beliefs.

      Your critique may have carried more input had you watched at least the second video, in my experience M16 officers are not dullards who cannot find out the truth.

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      Raymond D Choiniere 

      10 years ago from USA

      Hey John, not to be offensive, but you've managed to talk yourself from one deluded way of thinking, into rationalizing another. I read your hub from beginning to the end and no I wasn't going to waste my time with the videos. Your hub gave me enough fodder to feed on, so as to figure out whether you were actually understanding any truth. You claim to be a person who wasn't interested in god, but ended up becoming a follower. We've had this discussion once before and I pointed out then, like I am pointing out now, you're still confused as you ever were, but now you've justified and rationalized your stance based on irrational line of thinking.

      You want to play deceitful games on yourself, then that's fine, but I will not stand by, while you attempt to write things like this hub, which is more damaging to other than apparently you grasp. You claim to understand that life has only two options- spirit of the world or god. Only ignorance would make that claim. You also claim that apparently you didn't like who you were before finding god and now that you found HIM, you are much happier, which is a clear sign that you have deceived yourself.

      As I have said in the forums, you've not a clue about LIFE, in and of, itself. Again, not trying to offense, but that actually is the truth of the matter. You've substituted one vice for another vice. As for the "New World Order" coming, it's been going around for years that it's coming, but plenty of people continue to see it as something it is not. Plenty of people continue to use distortion and misinformation, just to make/create fear in society/humanity.

      The "New World Order" that is coming is the fading of religious beliefs. It is combined with a new way of thinking called "Integration". It's not about a select few who will control and dominate the world, but will be about a great many people finally stepping forward to understanding and utilizing the power of self. Sorry, no god required.

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      10 years ago

      Hey Titen, I can't wait for the Lord to speak directly to your heart! That's the proof that there is a God and He does exist. Remember the story of the Apostle Paul? God showed Him who's who!!! Then he changed from martyrer to one of our Lord's greatest Apostle.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      When I speak of them and us, of division and sides, I refer to it as a world position that 'they' take, we may know that God is paramount in all things, and personally understand how we fit into His plan, and how we should respond to the world, but 'they' do not!

      So my posted videos are not for believers who live in the spirit and reside in the kingdom, temporarily resident on earth awaiting a homecoming, they are directed at those in the world, to shake them out of their complacency maybe, and make them aware that in the world, there are sides, and they are merely a part of the food chain to those who rule the world, both physically and spiritually.

      Ego and pride are the enemies greatest tools, and I agree with you that we all have the ability to deny our ego and pride the ability to destroy our relationship with God.

      Thanks for commenting Carl, this was a requested hub, dashed off between other events!

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      Rod Martin Jr 

      10 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

      John, very nicely put.

      And the videos say a lot. While it's good to be aware, there is a tone of divisiveness in them -- of ego and separation -- us versus them. That only builds ego and falls into the same trap of the ones being fought. You can't fight murder with murder. You can't fight ego with ego.

      I don't consider being with God as a "side." It is above all sides -- exterior to them. Sides is about ego -- the dichotomies of right and wrong, good and evil. The lure of being right is seductive, but we need not play that game.

      I agree with you. Leave the world of darkness behind. While we live this mortal life, we can have compassion for our fellows and try to help and to comfort. But fighting the war of ego is a trap we should avoid.

    • aguasilver profile imageAUTHOR

      John Harper 

      10 years ago from Malaga, Spain

      Hi Titen-Skull, keep rolling your eyes, I was 41 before I came to realise the deception we are under in the world.

      Did you look at the videos or just fire from the hip?

      You consider your last two options as your reality, fine by me, you have made your decision, live with it.

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      10 years ago from back in the lab again

      No offense but hearing disembodied voices is evidence that you probably need mental help.

      You bring up CS Lewis' Lunatic, Liar or Lord dichotomy, however this is a false dichotomy as Christ could be things OTHER than those three choices. Here's just a few choices.

      Was Christ:

      A Liar

      A Lunatic

      A Lord

      An ordinary human being and moral teacher from the 1st century whose story was later embellished with supernatural elements.

      An entirely fictional character

      That's just an addition of two choices, the last two being the most likely as there is no contemporary historical evidence that Jesus even existed.

      You then descend into conspiracy theory driven nonsense about the New World Order.

      "We are all controlled by either the spirit of the world or God."

      Sorry, this is the 21st Century and I'm an adult. Spirits don't exist. But I suppose that's just what they'd want me to think *rolls eyes*


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