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Orphans and Needy

Updated on August 29, 2016

Orphans and Other Needy

Who is responsible for them?

Matt 25:34-40 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.'

37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' 40 And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.'

The scriptures are clear, we, the Ekklesia ( true church (people) of God) have a responsibility to those in need. The covenant of the the true church, called the New Testament does not tell us to surrender this obligation to a church system, a pastor, a “christian” charity or any other entity. I challenge you to find even a hint in the new testament of clergy, of bringing or giving to a charity or a “church” or any thing other than our personal responsibility to take care of those in need. It is our responsibility to see that God's money which He has entrusted to us is spent wisely AND WHERE HE WISHES. Therefore we must be willing to hear God and follow His instructions as in how to use it.

Just recently there was an expose on how the largest (supposedly christian) charity was used by muslims to funnel millions of dollars to the muslim terrorist organizations. And there are regularly articles about how men, through churches, charities and others collecting God's money have mis-spent it. Such as the Bakkers, Joel Osteen, Robert Tilton , Larry Lea and many others.

There are not a handful of these unscriptural collectors that funnel 100% of the money to the actual needy person. Almost all of them have too many salaried people (usually the leaders are over paid) office expenses, travel expenses (mostly incurred to raise more money) etc. I have personally met some of these people and they usually travel first or business class, stay in four and 5 star hotels eat the finest meal and believe this is due them. Get their financial statements and you will be sick when you see how little actually goes for the intended purpose, some are less than 10%, the majority are between 10 and 70%. Even at 90% $1 million minus 10% is $100,000.00 that does not reach those in need. At 80% its $200000.00 wasted and at 70% it”s $300000.00 and below that it is just too ridiculous to even consider.

Why do I mention this? Because most people do not realize this. Also because these un-scriptuaral collectors are siphoning millions of dollars out of the Christian community while there are thousands in need. These are humanitarian (man driven organizations), not Christian. Most of the ones that actually use money for the intended purpose do not spend it wisely. What NEED does a “church” have for a multimillion dollar edifice that is used a few hours a week when every city has large empyt warehouses that can accomplish the same thing for pennies on the dollar . No need there, just greed, desire need to out do the other guy or other worldly reasons. Jesus didn't even have a bed of His own.

Let me give you an example. One well known group that collects $ to feed children says you can sponsor a child for $30 a month and they collect millions.

You and I have a Christian brother in Kenya that takes orphans off the street where they will die or be taken by muslims to use in the sex trade, as slaves or as bombs. He now has 158 that he houses, feeds, clothes, teaches, leads to Christ and teaches an occupation. They do not live in a fancy expensive building, they live in 5 rooms that cost $252 for rent. They get full care, 3 filling and nutritional meals a day when there is enough money, sometimes there is a lack. All helpers and teachers are unpaid, some live with the children. He is unpaid .

His full monthly budget to do all they do is less than $1400 USD a month. That is less than $8.00per student (orphan) a month. If you are looking for an honest, effective MINISTRY I can give you details. I have spent time with them and know them to be real , honest and most important true Christ following servants.

All money is sent directly to their ministry by you by paypal for a fee of $0.25 (banks charge $50 or more.

I can also tell you many instances (some real horror stories)where the supposed christian needy were just going from church to church and town to town living off those with no discernment that are trusted with disbursement.

Do you want to answer to God for giving His money to these people? You can give it wherever you wish but ultimately YOU want to help needy not greedy people and are responsible for how it is used. You are the steward He selected to handle what He has put in YOUR possession. Since we are told of our responsibility in scripture don't you think we should do as scripture tells us. There is not one instance in new testament scripture where we are told to give money to anyone without knowing where it is used, the disciples were tested and trusted men of God and when they asked for money to be given to needy Christians that was different. Remember, Christians were constantly under attack, being killed and mistreated in many ways, and in some places starving because of the conditions. And this request was not for themselves but others, it was surely of God.

I am sure you are wondering where I am going with this. . I will explain below.

Here are some guidelines that are helpful when you are acting on behalf of God in helping others.

  1. Is there a need or is it a desire

  2. Is it best met by money or an item or just personal attention.

  3. DO NOT be afraid to ask personal questions, especially if prompted by the Holy Spirit.

  4. Do Not give money in cash unless you are directed to.

  5. God may speak to you to just give a certain amount of money or some other thing for some one you do not know or someone you know and if so JUST DO IT.

  6. And last but MOST IMPORTANT WHAT DOES GOD WANT ME TO DO? Something or nothing. Always check with the Holy Spirit and do as He says, whether yes or no, remember He knows ALL things, we do not. NOTE: SOMETIMES WHEN HE SAYS NO you will be tempted because of human emotions to do it any way, DO NOT IF HE SAYS NO. Also If he says yes you might think you missed it , but be sure you know His voice and follow it and you will never go wrong.


MY PURPOSE IS MULTI FOLD. First to instruct you in how to meet your Christian obligation to the poor and those in need according to scripture. Second because the churches of men do not serve God in this requirement to serve God.

For those that have a desire to do this and do not know where to start I can assure you there are more needs that you can meet right where you live. The old couple that needs their house painted, or their yard mowed or a ride to the grocery store or to sit and listen to them or--------.

The following is scriptural truth that every Christian “church” goer should get alone with the scriptures and the Holy Spirit and check it out , to see if it is of God or not. It is extremely difficult to digest if you have accepted what is taught in the church system but reading this makes you accountable to check it out and not discard it because it upsets your belief system. Note I did NOT say believe it, I said to follow scripture and test it against scripture to see if it be of God.

ALL of the problems in the USA and much of the rest of the world are FRUIT of the modern church system of man that has displaced the real followers of Christ with followers of their Apostate church system Instead of teaching scriptural principles and doctrines drawing people into the Kingdom of God, they preach and teach man made principles and doctrines that draw people into their kingdoms.

The majority of major denominations accept practicing homosexuals into their fold, family values are seldom taught, teaching the scriptural role of husband-father and mother-wife are not taught as they should be. Moral values have been allowed to become lower and lower. Instead of going into the world and changing it, their church system has welcomed the world into it and let it change them.

We as Christians are to check the fruit of that that professes to be of Christ and accept what is and discard that which is not.

First , Some things that you must understand to be a real Christ follower (disciple)

The old testament was to and for the jews, gentiles were not included in God's people. The new testament is to whosoever will meet its conditions can now be God”s people. When Jesus gave up His Spirit on the cross the old testament was FULFILLDED-COMPLETED and no longer for God's people, when the temple veil was rent at His death God left the building and now became available ANY WHERE TO ANYONE who is willing to accept Christ as their Lord and savior under His terms and conditions. He no longer meets in a temple made with hands but resides in HIS people.

The old testament was all physical – natural. Based on accountability with harsh punishment for those that transgressed. There was no room for repentance.

The new testament is all Spiritual – supernatural. Based on accountability with forgiveness if one repents The old testament was temporary, only until Jesus came and fulfilled it. .None of the old testament law applies to the ekklesia, The new testament is their road map And it is Permanent and Eternal.

You cannot be a true follower of Christ if you do not understand this.

  1. The true leaders of GOD are anointed by GOD and need no approval from man.

  2. True GOD anointed leaders ask for nothing but always serve the body of Christ.

  3. True GOD anointed leaders are always available when needed, no appointment needed (sometimes at sacrifice of their personal time)

  4. True GOD anointed leaders ALWAYS point to Christ and His Kingdom, NEVER to their church, denomination or any thing else.

  5. True GOD anointed leaders will always teach you not to follow them (or any man), but help you to reach the place where you no longer rely on them but on Jesus and then do the same for others.

There are many things that can be added to this list but you understand that.

Remember: Do not believe anything that I or any other man wants to teach you until you have taken it to scripture and with the help of the Holy Spirit discerned if it be of God.. If it passes the test YOU MUST ACCEPT IT , if it does not you MUST DISCARD IT.

Some of the orphans mentioned in this hub.
Some of the orphans mentioned in this hub.
Another picture of the orphans
Another picture of the orphans

© 2016 charlie


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  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    9 months ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    Shizette-- Thanks for the comment it is so nice to meet someone that understands truth instead of parroting the "false church" doctrines.

    may God Bless you

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    9 months ago

    Great article! I can attest to this - as a former United Nations employee and having worked with aid organizations such as USAID - I can tell you first-hand that LOTS of money gets utterly and sadly wasted. Its one of the main reasons I couldn't continue to work in those organizations.

    I fully agree on looking around you to see who is close by and in need - for its the simple needs that can be so important and possibly life-changing. and yes also to research an organization before sending them any money.

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    Betty A F 

    13 months ago from Florida

    I agree 100% with your article. We are accountable for where our money goes. Many people think that just by sending money to a charity, they are doing all that they need to do, but as you showed, the money that is often meant for the poor, the widows, and the fatherless ends up in the pockets of the rich, the careless, and the greedy.

    Even in our own communities, we can find charities where we can donate directly to those in need. There is a homeless shelter in the area where I live, with a consignment shop attached to it. All of the homeless people living on the premises work in the shop, and the money earned goes for education, recovery for addictions, and counseling to help them get back on their feet.

    That is one organization I focus on.

    A few years ago, I met a young man from Ghana who asked me for help in getting bibles to the members of a congregation in his home town. I did a lot of research and found organizations that will send bibles for free, but the young man turned down each organization.

    A few weeks later, I got a bill in my email with an invoice for thousands of dollars from a so-called company that makes and ships bibles. I had already told the young man that I do not personally have that amount of money, but it seemed that he went ahead and ordered the bibles in my name.

    As I investigated the the "store," and the young man, I came across other areas online where he was telling people different stories. He had told me that he was a homeless young man who lost his family, and that he slept on the pews at the church, where the bibles needed to be sent. On another website, he was telling people that he and his wife were ministers at the church and they needed money to help children within the church.

    I also learned the the book store, where he placed the order was a fake website, and the name was changed often.

    I'm guessing that he used the website to run scams that steal money that should actually go to the poor, and that woke me up to the major issues and difficulties involved with giving.

    I was just thinking about this yesterday, and interestingly, I felt sorry for those who scam people out of their money. I couldn't imagine what many will experience when standing before God on judgment day and being confronted with the suffering of others, including little children, because of greed and dishonesty.

    God bless you and thank you for sharing the truth.

  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    eric-- how many times have you been at the brink of death and had God block it? Like a gun being held touching between your eyes (because God told me and my wife let his wife and children stay with us after he tried to kill her in the barn with a pitchfork) by a man saying I come to kill you and God answer your request to stop him by not allowing him to be able to pull the trigger. and yet the gun worked perfectly when the police tested it.

    or when ministering to a demonic druggie had a demon manifest and as he raised his knife to plunge into your heart, you cried out JESUS and he stood frozen arm above his head unable to move until you disarmed him and told him to sit?

    I have many such instances in many different places.

    How many people has God told you to lay hands on and heal that were instantly healed and you have the Dr report and xray proof to show people like you .

    you may be foolish enough to call them carnal but I cannot. my carnal man is not capable of these things. BUT my Spirit man, at the order from the Holy Spirit can and has done these and even greater things that you would never believe and would try to desecrate.

    your response shows a complete lack of understanding of scripture, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and their place and work in the ekklesia.

    if you do in fact talk with a holy spirit it cannot be THE HOlY SPIRIT THAT GOD sent to teach us all truth and remind us of what Jesus spoke because He woud never allow you to make all your false accusation, lies and distortions .

    John 14:26-27 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.


    as I said before you do not understand scripture or what a TRUE FOLLOWER OF CHRIST IS or what is required when when one professes to be one. You mock the requirements and in so doing mock Christ, I would never be so foolish. They are NOT MY rules, they are part of His requirements on those that would be called by His name. YES, sorry to upset your applecart but there ARE rules, not legalism but like driving a car there are rules YOU MUST follow to be an " approved driver" AND To be an approved (by God) CHRIST follower.

    in light of your continued, lies, intentional misinterpretations, false accusations etc and lack of repentence for them I will again start deleting any comments from you.

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    Eric Dierker 

    2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

    Charlie this is what you said; " you have not experienced so do not know what you are talking about.". And you said it to chastise me and went on about your experiences. Now you say that it all comes from the Holy Spirit.

    Human experiences are by definition carnal. You make it clear that your experiences make you more knowledgeable yet you claim the Holy Spirit is the only true source of knowledge.

    If you do not want to call that logic -- then what do you call it. You say one thing yet chastise me for lack of human experience.

    Yes I see your point you do not use logic.

  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    eric== you would not know a true Spiritual experience if it slapped you in the face.

    I was talking about the supernatural protection by the hand of God, not one thing I mentioned was a carnal experience. All the things I mentioned that you called carnal were and are ,in fact only possible with the Holy Spirit leading .

    no sense in wasting any more time trying to show you the difference between the true Spiritual and carnal because you have no desire for truth, just your false love doctrine . you just keep on pleasing man and I will just keep on serving God.

    ps. logic is carnal . I do not use it for things of the Spirit nor does KC, we rely on the real Holy Spirit speaking to us.

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    Eric Dierker 

    2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

    Wow Celfoe, you sure seem to be talking about carnal man experiences that one must have before being led by the Holy Spirit. It seems that truth from God can come to a Monk in the Arctic circle about downtown Detroit. Only man would be limited in such a fashion not God.

    There is another point. Some say to really know about a war you must have been a soldier on the ground in it. Fallacy. The soldier only knows his experience. You have experienced and so have a perspective but it is your human senses that gave you those experiences.

    Prayer and study may provide a more accurate understanding than carnal experience,

    But that is just using yours and Kingdomcome's theological logic.

  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    eric= like with everything else you are talking about something you have not experienced so do not know what you are talking about.

    like anything there are good ones and bad ones. Most sent by a denomination are not truly called by God, but by man. It takes a year before a 1st timer that is any good in a foreign country is of any value to the Kingdom of God, if ever as unfortunately most bring people into the kingdom of the group sending them.

    most that have a "church" they attend that sends them through their missionary group and willingly preach their false or incomplete doctrines get fine quarters, time off frequently and pay. I have stayed with some baptists in India that live a finer home than they ever had before, a good salary, 2wks fully paid vacation at a beach resort in Thailand owned by the denomination every 6 mos, and a maid or two. They were useless and ran when a demon threatened them. The Indans laughed at them and thought they were a joke.

    For the cost of supporting a couple of Americans in a 2nd or 3 rd world country for a yr I can train and fully support 10 natives that are so much more effective and reach at least 10 times as many people. And they NEVER complain about their discomfort or being tired or whatever.

    REAL ones sent of God such as Paul, Timothy usually get little or no help from the "churches" because they refuse to preach their false doctrines, only wanting to please God and not interested in pleasing man

    I do not pretend to know things I have not experienced. How many 2nd and 3rd world countries have you trained ministers in? How many ghetto where white men do not go have you ministered in? How many have you lived in? Did you pay your own way? were you invited back? how many people were born again? how many healed? how many delivered from demons? How many baptizes in the Holy Spirit?

    you need to sit down, get born again according to scripture, be baptized in the Holy Spirit then spend a few years with the Holy Spirit showing you scripture truth, then maybe, just maybe you will have something to say worth listening to. until then you should be quiet.

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    Eric Dierker 

    2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

    You remind me of an interesting point. Those darned foreign country missionaries get a place to sleep and food instead of pay.

  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    eric- just what I expected from you. you DO NOT understand scripture or how it ALL fits together. SO you consistently FALSELY ACCUSE ME and others that do understand , and make remarks that are CONTRARY TO SCRIPTURE.

    YOU SAID: "And this whole business about hiding our benevolence guided by Christ seems like a candle under a basket to me."

    first. I did not say it I was quoting a guy I know well his name is Jesus. I wonder if you even know Him? The question is based on you saying that you do not believe that ALL beliefs of one who professes to be Christian MUST be backed by scripture. Yet in spite of your "belief" that is a requirement for any true follower of Christ.

    Matt 6:1-4 "Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 3 But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly.

    I never said or implied there was no place for or value in humanitarian deeds. In fact I SAID " It does not need to be Christian to be a good thing as any act of kindness is a good thing, unless God has said not to do it"

    I simply explained the difference between Christian charity and humanistic charity. they ARE NOT AND CANNOT BE MUTUALLY INCLUSIVE. Christian charity is a work of the Spirit guided by The Holy Spirit, humanistic charity is a work of the flesh of man guided by man. Your liberal doctrines expose you as a humanitarian, not a Christian. According to your way of thinking Jesus lied to us, but I know He DID NOT lie. You simply do not understand scripture.

    Jesus did not come to make eric happy. He came to separate the things of the Kingdom of God from the things of the kingdoms of men. You just do not understand

    Yes, I know my rules upset you but eric these are NOT MY RULES, THEY ARE GOD'S as laid out in scripture. They are only a burden to those who think they know better than God and do not need the scriptures or the Holy Spirit to validate them, they are satisfied with the accolades of man.

    I care ONLY what God thinks, NOT ANY MAN.

    Luke 12:51 Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division.

    Matt 10:34-39 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to 'set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law'; 36 and 'a man's enemies will be those of his own household.' 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

    and God said Isa 55:8-9 8 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the Lord. 9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth,

    So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.



    You have on many occasions, misinterpreted and LIED about what I said, YOU have falsely accused me of saying things I did not say or infer AS YOU DID AGAIN HERE. You have said many things that are NOT scriptural are scriptural. Clearly the false teaching and false accusations and lies are not Christian attributes and make it clear who you are and it is not an emissary of Jesus or God, and shows NO guidance from the Holy Spirit

    so my question to you is; who do you really serve???

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    2 years ago from those of the Ecclesia

    Eric- celaoe and riich's comment flew right over your head. It's because of carnal mindedness on your part. You keep looking at the physical and not the spiritual aspect of what is being said. Serving comes from a willing heart to serve without physical rewards. Carnal minded "christians" and people in general want money or they won't SERVE. Christ came to serve. Never did He charge a fee or expect money for His great works of healing and other deeds or for the things He taught regarding the Kingdom of God. Everthing He said and did was centered around the Kingdom values. And this is the point most so called "christians" don't understand.

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    Eric Dierker 

    2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

    This just goes against so much good stuff from the Bible and Jesus. This rampant judgmentalism and shunning of those who are deemed unworthy. From loving your enemy to defending the whore and the leper to he who is without sin cast the first stone to those that helped the least of these. It just rubs me wrong to eschew good works because they do not follow your dogma and doctrine. And make no mistake Charlie you are espousing a dogma and doctrine. The fact it is not institutionalized does not change it's stripes.

    And this whole business about hiding our benovelence guided by Christ seems like a candle under a basket to me.

    And your approach takes out institutions where institutions are necessary. One does not cure cancer all by himself. One man silently in the dark does not build water infrastructure and medical clinics and schools.

    You have many great points but on some we differ.

  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    eric-I will add to what Rich said.

    First there is no such thing as an "approved ministry" for Christian charity. The scriptures tell us to do our good deeds in secret, by ourself. To truly be a proper "Christian" act it must be approved by the Holy Spirit , not by any man or man made organization. There is NO scripture authorizing any "church" or other "ministry" to do this or anything else for you. You and you alone are responsible to God for what you do and do not do and you alone will be held responsible.

    Humanitarian acts are just that humanitarian acts. The difference between Christian charity and humanitarian acts is simply to whom is the act dedicated, God or man?. If done as an act of love and obedience to God by a Christian it is a Christian act. If done as an act of help to a human from a non christian or a Christian it is a humanitarian act and cannot and does not need to be considered Christian. It does not need to be Christian to be a good thing as any act of kindness is a good thing, unless God has said not to do it.

    The church system of men is a non christian attempt by apostate men based on the OT temple system that was given to the Jews (to keep them until Jesus would come) to replace it, that was done at the cross. It usurps the place of Christ in that it places itself between man and Jesus. The OT temple system did this because man could not access God directly under the OT . The new testament began when the veil was rent at Jesus death and God became directly accessible to who so ever will, that would accept the terms through Jesus.

    NT scripture tells us Jesus is the head of man and is the ONLY way to God. No "church", man or other thing of man that places itself between God and man is of God or in any way authorized by NT scripture.

    1 Cor 11:3-4 But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

    No matter what they do, any "ministry" not authorized by scripture can not rightly be called a Christian ministry there is no such thing other than the servanthood of those in the true body serving others. The only authorized ministry of men is ABSOLUTE SERVANTHOOD of those ORDAINED BY GOD, NOT MAN as elders in the body at large.

    True Christianity is all about SERVING.

    Matt 20:28 the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."


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    Rich Kelley 

    2 years ago from The Ekklesia

    Thank you for the article Charlie.

    My comments on the comments.

    If the unsaved do something good that doesn't change what they did from good to bad. The heart or reason for their actions is known by God. If one were to get help from St. Jude's that doesn't mean that Catholics or catholic religion are all of a sudden Christians, one has nothing to do with the other. This is hard to separate sometimes. The hungry child being feed could careless about the religious beliefs of the provider. Many Christian ministries use the helping of the needy to perpetuate their religion. By not letting the right hand know what the left is doing one can avoid religious reasons. By doing in secret so just you and God knows is a way to say clear of ulterior motives. Do good don't broadcast it and let those that are helped be helped.

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    Eric Dierker 

    2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

    A very good perspective. And we know that millions are misled. Makes you wonder why Thomas kept it out of the hands of the Pope ;-)

    But it brings us to an important question. Must good works be done by approved Christian Ministries to have value through Christ? Must their dogma be fully sound in order to make the good works worthy?

  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    eric-- and if you understand scripture I am st charles. Christian saints are simply followers of Christ. Catholic saints are followers of the poope and not Christian

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    Eric Dierker 

    2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

    Very interesting information gentlemen. I will do more research and meditation and prayer on this. To be honest I did not think the Catholics were that involved, I thought they had their own 501 c 3. And for certain I saw it as humanitarian giving.

    Indeed I am sure they are not Catholic. I understand the concern over the concept of honoring a Saint. But I am strange that way - I call them Saint Peter and St. Paul.

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    2 years ago from those of the Ecclesia

    Eric- You can bet that St. Jude's hospital is owned or operated or controled by the catholic church in some way to make a "profit". I'll bet ALL those who receive cancer treatment at "St. Jude's are paying for it or in some way it's being paid for through some form of insurance. You think for one moment that catholic church will do anything out of the kindness of their heart. I'll bet you are paying something. The catholic church does NOTHING for free to help the poor. NOTHING

  • celafoe profile imageAUTHOR


    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    eric- I do not see how you related my article to cancer and st judes but I will answer. I destest, as does God, the false church of which the catholic church is number one proponent and guide. They completely fail every test for Christianity.

    They do however do a decent job in this humanitarian function. I happen to be a little familiar with stjudes hospital, fruit of Danny Thomas humanitarian efforts, not by the church.. It actually is catholic only because Thomas was catholic and did not know any better. They do an excellent job at what they do. But this humanitarian effort can never be considered a Christian endeavor. They have all their false idols (saints etc) all over it. Their nuns and priest minister their false doctine if you let them. Just remember, no matter what they say it is NOT Christian ministry, but a good humanitarian effort by a false church professing christianity. Contrary to their teaching you cannot buy favor with God.

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    Eric Dierker 

    2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

    Really good of you to write this. I kind of have a connection with cancer treatment. So I know St. Jude's is only 83% efficient, but it is a tough area with all the FDA and AMA guidelines. And it is something that cannot be done simply by taking it upon one's self.

    What is your opinion on St. Jude's?

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    2 years ago from those of the Ecclesia

    celafoe- I just wrote a comment to this article and somehow it gone. Needless to say but I will make it shorter this time. You wrote a great article here and a much needed one. I wish to echo the words of Aaron. He said it exactly right. God bless.

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    2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans

    Aaron, thanks for the support. I get so angry when I see all the money stolen from the people who think they are serving God by following their "church" teachings instead of following scripture. Esp when I see so many sincere needs that I just can't meet.

    and then there is the issue of the emotional frenzy that the "churches" teach is the Holy Spirit but is a fruitless sham. If the Holy Spirit was being poured out there would be fruit and there would be mass defections from the system

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    2 years ago


    Thanks for this well needed message.

    In Acts 3:6 Peter said, “But Peter said, "Silver and gold have I none, but what I have, that I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, get up and walk!"

    Can the salaried clergy of the man-made church system say this with Peter that they have “no silver and gold?”

    They have no ability to say, “in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.” They do not have the power of the Holy Spirit within them.

    They have a pompous attitude towards the poor as all money and time must be channelled through them first. Priorities have been reversed where demands must go to pay unnecessary building and administrative expenses including large salaries, while the poor are ignored. The newspaper headlines don't lie as church financial scandals are the norm, rather than works of love or charity made on one's own initiative being guided by the Holy Spirit.

    When Peter and John were filled with the Holy Spirit in Acts 31-34 they began to speak the word of God with boldness. The ekklesia were of one heart and soul, they gave and shared all for there was not a needy person among them.

    Unfortunately, many do not walk in the examples of Yahshua and the apostles. We need to have big hearts towards those in need.

    On a side note, I think the formatting of this hub has all been aligned to the right.


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