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Salvation (Eternal Life) vs Eternal Death
Salvation ( Eternal Life ) vs Eternal Death
Salvation and the need for it is not properly understood by most professing Christianity.
Adam's sin, usually called original sin' Is it imputed to mankind?
There always seems to be an ongoing argument by church people about whether a baby is born in sin. There IS No argument in scripture to those that properly understand scripture and this foolishness should be settled once and for all and dismissed.
The reason this keeps coming up is the apostate churches of men's doctrines teach that man is born in sin – This the opposite of what scripture says. Since there is no scripture about what to do about this none existent “lie taught as fact” church people are confused. Here is what scripture has to say, and this truth will completely do away with the need to ask this non question.
Ezek 18:19-20 "Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. 20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
Salvation is not about sin, its about defeating death-- eternal life. Scripture tells us that through the disobedience of Adam “SIN ENTERED THE WORLD”. It does NOT SAY SIN WAS IMPUTED TO MAN. It says” now that sin is IN the world death is spread to all men –because all MEN have sinned “ through sin DEATH SPREAD TO ALL MEN.” In other words it says because of the sin (disobedience ) of Adam death replaced eternal life as the natural way for men. Before his sin the natural progression was life, eternal life but now it is replaced for all by death".
The curse that Adam gave to all mankind was and is death . If Adam had not eaten of the fruit of the tree of good and in evil in disobedience to God's command to him evil would not have been released in the world (understand good and evil were both in the garden but without the knowledge of good and evil Adam did not know what evil was but he did know God told him if he ate the fruit he would die.
It is now appointed to man, once to die and then comes the judgement
Before his disobedience Adam only saw good, he had no knowledge of evil, he could not see it as it was not loosed yet.. But when he took a bite—his eyes were open, he could now see evil as it was now released in the garden If he had not released evil (sin) a new born baby would have eternal life and could not be able to die before being old enough to be able to have and be accountable for his own sins. because it is sin free, but is not free from the curse of death. So when a baby dies it is under the curse of death but not sin so the concern is not about sin, but is there a scriptural antidote? The antidote for a person of sufficient age and wisdom to be accountable for his sin is clear. They must accept the payment for their sins and the release from the power of death that Jesus brought to us. What is explained in scripture. You must repent and be born again, baptized in water and the Holy Spirit, accepting Christ's payment for your past sins and then your past sins (all) are forgiven , you are sanctified and made righteous before God thereby being also released from the curse of death and receiving eternal life. You will still die as the curse is on the temporary flesh man and Spirit man and salvation is for the eternal Spirit man ,
Rom 5:12-17 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned — 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)
The antidote for an infant.
The scriptures tell us that the child that dies before having its own sins is not charged with the penalty of sin as he has none. BUT as a member of mankind he is charged he is subject to the curse of death that is on all mankind.
I find in scripture the antidote (or how to defeat eternal death) for the child that has one at least one believing parent. The child is sanctified- made Holy by virtue of the parental faith.
1 Cor 7:13-15 And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.
I can find NO scripture to say a child that dies without a believing parent can be excused from the curse of death. Scripture does not directly address this situation.
Based on the above scripture my belief is there is not one ,but God has not given me His truth so I cannot disagree if you don't see it that way
Many say but God would never do that to a child. Or would He? But God tells us the parents are RESPONSIBLE for their children and what is more irresponsible than not preparing for their Spiritual welfare.
.Sin only comes into the picture after one is capable of their OWN sin. No one is accountable for the sins of another. Once one commits sin it must be removed to obtain salvation. And the process of obtaining salvation must be applied.
You must Understand this.
Adams sin IS NOT imputed to us. He had absolute control over the creation whatever he said and did applied to all creation and he did three things that were devastating to mankind. By his rebellion (disobedience) toward God he released on earth three things on earth the God never intended for man to even know about
1. The knowledge of good and evil. God gave us and wanted only good for us
2.Death He gave us eternal life in the garden and never wanted us to experience death. (separation from God)
3. Satan He had prepared the adversary but NEVER desired to release him
Of course because of his sin there were other changes too, see Gen 3, none of them good but these are primary.
By these things happening ,as the result of his sin, they were the result of his sin not his sin. His sin was the disobedience. The lives of man were terribly and forever altered unless The blood of Jesus be applied.
I pray this helps you to understand these scriptural truths so if you have the false church taught story you can be set free from it.