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A Spirtual Look at the Shroud of Turin

Updated on October 22, 2010


One of my earliest hubs was on the Shroud of Turin. The Shroud is a piece of yellowed linen about fourteen feet long and three and a half feet wide. The cloth contains faint Image of 6’ tall Man who was beaten and crucified with wounds that have an uncanny resemblance to those in the gospel accounts of the crucifixion of the Christ.

In that hub, I primarily discussed certain unique scientific properties that have eluded definitive analysis, with as much fairness and objectivity as I could. In my conclusion I stated that although the authenticity (or lack thereof of the Shroud) is not necessary for faith, I believe it to be authentic.

I believe that the shroud, whether it’s the authentic burial cloth of Christ, or a piece of devotional art (much like Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ”) the image on the shroud, as well as it’s unique features can graphically illustrate some profound spiritual truths about a God who loved the world much that he “gave his only begotten Son” to die for us.

When I published that first hub, I promised Sufidreamer that I would write a hub on the spiritual significance of the Shroud. Sorry it took so long, Sufi, but here it is.

The shroud, more than any other single thing speaks to me at all levels of my being. By profession, I am a Software Engineer with a background in science and engineering, so it fascinates me on that level. But spiritually, it is the point at which the greater reality meets physical time and space, being truly neither and yet also both.

If it is art it is the most inspired work of art I've ever seen. And if it is, in fact, the burial shroud of Christ ... it speaks to the compelling reality of the death, burial and resurrection of Our Lord.

At every point of distress in my life, education, career, divorce, loss something on the Shroud, about the Shroud, the analysis of the Shroud has touched me. It is, to me, truly "The Holy Grail" the vessel that contains the real blood of the covenant.

Full Image of Shroud
Full Image of Shroud

He is Not Here

In 1997 Robert Bucklin, M.D., J.D. a veteran of over 25,000 autopsies wrote an autopsy on the "Man in the Shroud". He wrote, "The body appears to be in a state of rigor mortis which is evidenced by an overall stiffness as well as specific alterations in the appearance of the lower extremities from the posterior aspect."

The body that was placed in the cloth was in rigor mortis, (3-12 hours after death) but was removed before any stains from decomposition could develop.

As I read the report two things struck me. First, there was a dead body. Second the body was removed before it decomposed.

The shroud (whether art of artifact) shows a man was dead and the body was there. But the body was gone before it could decompose. And not only that, the stains were definitively identified as human blood (type AB positive) but there was no smearing as would occur if a body was placed on the cloth and then removed.

I can't help but think about Luke 24:5-6: "Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen! Remember how He spoke to you when He was still in Galilee"

Why is this significant? It is the cornerstone of the Christian faith. The Apostle Paul explains this in 1 Corinthians 15:14-15 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead.

As a devote Jew, violating one of the ten commandments (do not bear false witness) especially about God was unthinkable to Paul.

To this day, in Christian Liturgy, the leader will often say, "He is Risen" and the congregation will reply, "He is Risen Indeed".

So, the first spiritual feature is that if it is an artifact, it bears witness to (and if it is art it illustrates faith in) the cornerstone of Christianity, the Resurrection of the Christ.

The florescence shows the flow of the blood beyond what is visible to the naked eye.
The florescence shows the flow of the blood beyond what is visible to the naked eye.


Before modern forensic science was applied, the blood stains were considered to be one of the major proofs that the shroud was a fake. Why? The blood stayed red.

Most people who have bandaged themselves know that blood stains do not normally stay bright red. Yet, these did.

I've seen some good scientific explanations as to how it happened, but one of the questions I asked myself was why?

Psalm 16:10 says: "you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy One see decay". The blood on the shroud stayed red because it did not decay.

Like the Resurrection, the blood of Jesus is a major cornerstone of Christianity. We see in Hebrews 9 that the ritual sacrifices of early Israel, were symbolic to the final sacrifice (once and for all) of the Christ.

Hebrews 9:11-12: 11When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation. 12He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption.

The blood, not just blood, but graphic images of un-decayed blood from grievous wounds stands as a testimony that death is not our final destination, and that the Kingdom of God is greater than death. It adds so much more depth to Revelation 12:11: And they overcame him [the devil] by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death

The xray like quality of the shroud image may actually show bones.
The xray like quality of the shroud image may actually show bones.
Photos courtesy of Council for the Study of the Shroud of Turin
Photos courtesy of Council for the Study of the Shroud of Turin


Especially in the Old Testament, bones, as the inner most parts of the body, poetically parallel the soul (Proverbs 16:24: Pleasant words are as a honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones.)

With that understanding of the poetic parallel, we take a new look at how Psalm 34:19-20 says: Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all. He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.

Now, we can see that this is a poetic promise that the Lord delivers the righteous soul from afflictions.

There is no evidence of broken bones on the image on the shroud, being consistent with the account in John's gospel:

Then the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first and of the other who was crucified with Him. But when they came to Jesus and saw that He was already dead, they did not break His legs. But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out. And he who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true; and he knows that he is telling the truth, so that you may believe. For these things were done that the Scripture should be fulfilled, "Not one of His bones shall be broken." John 19:32-36

John, quoting Psalm 34, reminds his readers, who he presumes are familiar with Hebrew poetry, that the physical crucifixion, is a picture of a spiritual reality. Even in death, the soul of the Christ was unbroken.

The unbroken bones of the Shroud speak a reminder to me that as we draw closer to God, the Kingdom of Heaven within our soul impacts our physical reality, often in spite of extreme physical affliction. Because in God, physical affliction does not break our soul, but an unbroken soul impacts the physical world.

I see what appears to be a bruised cheek, a beard plucked at the chin, and a face, un-disgraced, like flint.
I see what appears to be a bruised cheek, a beard plucked at the chin, and a face, un-disgraced, like flint.

The Face

I was watching a documentary on the Shroud (I'm sorry, I don't remember which one) and the host asked one of the forensic scientists what the most compelling feature of the Shroud was to him. What he said startled me. He said, "The peacefulness of the face."

He went on to state that whoever the Man in the Shroud was, he had undergone a horrifically cruel death, and yet rather than being contorted in agony, the face was peaceful, almost serene.

The gospel accounts tell us that Jesus was struck on the face. He was spit upon. He was mocked.

Isaiah 50:6-7 says prophetically:  I gave my ... cheeks to those who plucked out the beard; I did not hide My face from shame and spitting. For the Lord GOD will help Me;  Therefore I will not be disgraced; Therefore I have set My face like a flint, And I know that I will not be ashamed.

 When I see that negative image of the man on the shroud, it reminds me of a "Face like flint". 

This is the face of a man who has, after being cruelly and unjustly tormented and mocked can say "Father, forgive them, they don't know what they are doing."

Scourge Marks

Isaiah 50:6 also says, "I gave my back to those who struck Me". and Isaiah 53:5 tells us, " he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."

Peter, an eyewitness to the Passion tells us in 1 Peter 2:23-24: "...when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously;  who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness by whose stripes you were healed."

The Shroud shows wounds of a horrific scourging, not only on his back, but on his thighs, calves and buttocks. He bore the pain. He bore the injustice. He bore these things because He trusted God with His justice. He knew that the Father is faithful.

This death invites us to connect with a righteous God so we may live in and for righteousness. Because as horrific as the death was. God is greater than death. God is greater than injustice.

These scourge marks, along with his peaceful face show us the depth of his faith in the Father. The missing body shows us that this Faith was not misplaced.

Hand Scars

In Isaiah 49, God declares that he will not forget His people in verses 15 and 16: "Can a woman forget her nursing child And have no compassion on the son of her womb ? Even these may forget, but I will not forget you. "Behold, I have inscribed you on the palms of My hands;"

And John 20:24-28 tells us: But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. So the other disciples were saying to him, "We have seen the Lord !" But he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe." After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, "Peace be with you." Then He said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands ; and reach here your hand and put it into My side ; and do not be unbelieving, but believing." Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God !"

Every time the Father sees the nail prints in His Son's hands, it reminds Him of the compassion He has for His creation. As we see the nail prints on the Shroud, we are invited to faith. To me, it's like Jesus saying, "See my hands?" Do not be unbelieving, but believing. "

These scars are a reminder to me of the relational covenant I have with the Christ.

3D data hidden in a 2D image.
3D data hidden in a 2D image.

Hidden Dimension

I was in the midst of writing this hub when the History Channel aired "The Real Face of Jesus?". Ray Downing of Studio Macbeth, pointed out that the shroud was a two-dimensional image that showed three dimensional data. He also explained the spiritual ramifications of this. It was a "slap self in the forehead" moment for me.

I was privileged to attend a seminar at the US Air Force academy and listen to then, Captain, John Jackson explain his three dimensional discovery. Hidden for hundreds of years, this 3D data, like a hologram, contained information that we were incapable of understanding until the 20th and 21st century.

In the History Channel program, Ray Downing and John Jackson described how no known form of radiant energy could have made such a clear image on the shroud. However, radiant energy intersecting the body from a hypothetical parallel dimension could have encoded 3D "data" on a 2D image. The computer modeled how it would look. This was consistent with the 3D encoding on the Shroud.

I am also privileged to have been present when someone has actually died, gone to heaven and come back to life. (Pastor Lonnie on Hub Pages)

Lonnie describes it as a veil that was so close to earth he could almost "reach out touch earth". And it was like we could almost "reach out and touch heaven". In my conversations with him, the best description I can come up with is, that heaven is a parallel dimension that intersects ours in ways that we cannot fully perceive with our normal senses.

Hebrews 12:1 tells us we are "surrounded" by a "cloud" of witnesses. From both scriptural and "eye" witness testimony I know that there is a hidden dimension that is more real than I can experience in "just" the 3D world I live in.

Perhaps, just as the Shroud is a 2D Image that points to a greater third dimension, the formation of the image itself, points to a greater Hidden Dimension.

Proverbs 25:2 says: It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Consider Proverbs 22:5, with the mystery of the Shroud in light of Revelation 5:9-10: And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, And have made us kings and priests to our God;

And that is why I love the Shroud. It's hidden secrets show me a map to a greater truth.


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      James A Watkins 7 months ago from Chicago

      Thank you for this outstanding followup article. Very good.

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      Carlos 3 years ago

      It's been over five years now since I lost my faith, and I still haven't found anything that would make me think Christianity is any more true than any other faith. In each faith I see pelope acting in admirable ways, finding ways to interpret texts in a more modern light, and leaving out the barbaric parts. These days I'm less concerned with what motivates pelope to do positive things, and am just happy that they are doing positive things. The only times I speak out against religion is when it is used to harm pelope, which, sadly, still happens way too often.

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      Durai 3 years ago

      Another shroud dbtaee.. I don't understand why Christians get so caught up in Shroud of Turin, why are some Christians so eager to be skeptic of this shroud? And why are some so eager to prove the authenticity of the shroud? I don'[t understand either side.After all, it is Jesus we are worshipping. If the Shroud is a fake, it shouldn't affect us, because it is just a material thing. However, if it turns out to be real, then maybe it is God's way for 21th century Christians to eye witness the resurrection of Jesus, through the shroud..The latest developments of the shroud are: 1) in 2010 there are scientific research that shows the radiocarbon dating done in 1988 contains errors, because the samples were contaminated. 2) Scientists have no idea how the image got onto the shroud. It is simply one of the biggest puzzles in scientific research. (it will make sense if the image got onto the shroud during the resurrection, because it is a supernatural phenomenon).3) The pollen found on the shroud matches a special type that only exist in Jerusalem4) They used another artifact, that was supposed to be the cloth that covered Jesus' face (as mentioned by John), they took that cloth, and matched it with Shroud of Turin, and found that the blood stains on the two pieces of clothes matched well.5) They argued that the sample used for the 1988 carbon dating was from the corner of the shroud which belonged to the part of the repair done in the medieval era. In other words, the real shroud was used for dating.6) The weaving pattern of the shroud actually matches the 1st century Syrian method of weaving on and so forth..Look, I don't think Christians should so quickly judge if the shroud is fake or real. While it is an interesting artifact, but we should not worship it. However, I do think we should continue to study it, to see if it is real or not.

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      Jean 3 years ago

      If I conummicated I could thank you enough for this, I'd be lying.

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      Souheil Bayoud 5 years ago from Beirut, Lebanon

      The Shroud is the VISUAL gospel of the sufferings,death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus of Nazareth.It is a stumbling rock like His owner for does who read but do not understand,and who see but do not perceive same as in days of His sufferings.Read the book the coin of the temple and you will see the truth.

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      mcals71 6 years ago

      I believe that the Shroud is the authentic image of the Lord Jesus Christ, and I'm grateful that, having chosen to leave us with a picture of Himself in His humanity, He chose the one that speaks volumes about why He came into this world, what He did for our salvation, and what we do to good people. Great hub, voted up.

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      Chad Kim 6 years ago

      Undeniably believe that which you said. Your favorite reason appeared to be on the web the easiest thing to be aware of. I say to you, I definitely get annoyed while people consider worries that they just don't know about. You managed to hit the nail upon the top and also defined out the whole thing without having side-effects , people could take a signal. Will probably be back to get more. Thanks

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      PlanksandNails 6 years ago from among the called out ones of the ekklesia of Christ

      The fact is that people do worship the Shroud of Turin even today; therefore, it is still idolatry.

      By simply reading the Bible, the spiritual significance of the Shroud of Turin can be summed up in Deuteronomy 5:7.

      Nicodemus, who had first come to Him by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds weight. So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in LINEN WRAPPINGS with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews.

      John 19:39-40


      The two were running together; and the other disciple ran ahead faster than Peter and came to the tomb first; and stooping and looking in, he saw the LINEN WRAPPINGS lying there; but he did not go in. And so Simon Peter also came, following him, and entered the tomb; and he saw the LINEN WRAPPINGS lying there, and the FACE-CLOTH which had been on His head, NOT LYING with the LINEN WRAPPINGS, but rolled up in a place BY ITSELF.

      John 20:4-7


      And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean LINEN cloth.

      Mathew 27:59

      Joseph bought a LINEN cloth, took Him down, wrapped Him in the LINEN cloth and laid Him in a tomb which had been hewn out in the rock.

      Mark 15:46

      In the time of Jesus Christ, linen wrappings were used and consisted of several pieces (plural) of cloth with a simple plain weave. The plain weave means that horizontal and vertical threads are woven together to create the fabric.

      The Shroud of Turin, however, is a (singular) piece of cloth or sheet (shroud) with a twill pattern that was not common until the Middle Ages. The twill pattern on the shroud is a 3 in 1 herringbone pattern.

      The question is:

      If Moses was buried in an unmarked grave to prevent idolatry, then do you think God would have allowed Jesus' wrappings to remain in existence to be venerated as a relic of pure idolatry today?

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      Julianna 7 years ago from SomeWhere Out There

      This is on the front page of HP and I know about the Shroud of Turin it is absolutely amazing. Hope all is well with you! :)

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      Julianna 7 years ago from SomeWhere Out There

      This is on the front page of HP and I know about the Shroud of Turin it is absolutely amazing. Hope all is well with you! :)

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      Deidre Shelden 7 years ago from Texas, USA

      Thanks for your careful and good hub on The Shroud! The more I read about it the more amazed I become. I am so convinced now it is what tradition claims it to be.

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      bla bla 7 years ago

      AB POSITIVE: The blood stains on the Turin Shroud reveal they are of the blood group AB positive, the same as the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano and the Sudarium (Face-Cloth) of Christ.

      The slice of human heart flesh preserved [and security sealed against fraud and theft] exhibits very interesting properties that are in keeping with the tradition of no matter the size of a consecrated host, it is the whole of Jesus the communicant recieves. A surgeon also commented that the way the heart tissue had been sliced would have been very difficult for a modern expert surgeon to achieve.

      'The blood has congealed and is now in five clots in the glass chalice. In 1971 and 1981 a hospital laboratory tested the flesh and blood and discovered that the flesh is myocardium, that is heart muscular tissue, so we could say it is the heart of Jesus, the Sacred Heart, and the blood is of the blood group AB positive. In 1978 NASA scientists tested the blood on the Turin Shroud and interestingly also discovered that it is of the blood group AB positive. (The Sudarium, Face Cloth of Christ, mentioned in John 20:6 is also of the blood group AB positive.) Despite the fact that human flesh and blood should not have remained preserved for 1300 years the hospital lab tests found no trace of any preservatives. One final interesting point about the five blood clots in the chalice is that when you weigh one of them, it is the same weight as all five together, two of them together weigh the same as all five. In fact no matter what way you combine the blood clots individually or in a group to weigh them, they always weigh the same. (This shows that the full Jesus is present in a particle of the Eucharist no matter how small.)

      Taken from: 'Homily for the Solemnity of Corpus Christi - the Body and Blood of Jesus' - by Fr. Tommy Lane.

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      BDazzler 7 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thank you Ron! Yes, I agree that much like the bible, the shroud is a message from the Lord.

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      Ron L. 7 years ago

      Great Hub! I enjoyed it thoroughly. I, personally am convinced the Shroud is real and is a message from Christ.We mustn't think of it as an idol to worship but as Gospel, Jesus's Gospel! A gift obviously meant for "Our Time", as it was created with hidden truths which only our era could find.A testament to the way he lived, the values he taught and the sacrifice he did for all mankind.


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      BDazzler 7 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Hi Dave!

      I agree as well, that the belief or disbelief in the reality of the shroud is a matter of opinion.

      While I have no problem with debate, I don't have a bad opinion about nor am I offended by people who disagree with my point of view.

      For me, whether art or artifact, it was a gift from God and any gift, does indeed, have a possibility of becoming an idol and I appreciate your point on that issue.

      Thank you for reading my hubs and making comments. And thank you for your kind words.

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      DavePrice 7 years ago from Sugar Grove, Ill

      Very well written hub - I enjoy the way you tackle a subject thoroughly. I'll come down on the side of disbelief; I don't believe the shroud is the burial cloth of Christ. But at the same time I appreciate the shroud for its ability to illustrate the physical impact of crucifixion. I prefer not to get involved in the debate of its reality, because I have no argument with anyone who believes it is real - I'm pretty sure there are things I consider real that others would argue against. The only issue with this or any other similar artifact is its ability to become an idol - even if it is real, its still only a piece of cloth. Hope I don't offend anyone, I read your hubs because I appreciate your intelligent and thoughtful style of writing whether I agree or not with the subject.

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      BDazzler 7 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thank you IE it has fascinated me all my life!

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      Julie Grimes 7 years ago from Columbia, MO USA

      Oh by the way- Great hubs!

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      Julie Grimes 7 years ago from Columbia, MO USA

      For me, it is real. Not because there is the possibility; but, because of the new scientific evidence, because of the Templars connection to it, and because of other historical facts surrounding it. Such as the recent historical connections to the monastery it was kept, in which it was inadvertently scorched beyond repair, in a devastating fire. That right there would screw with the carbon dating, in which they now have admitted that they didn't take into count. So we have historical evidence, and scientific evidence pointing to "the man," in the image. However, it is the science behind the Shroud that has convinced me that it is definitely made by something not of this world. Is it Christ? Show me evidence that says it cannot be.

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      BDazzler 7 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Hello Mhuze. I do understand. May God help you in that.

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      mhuze 7 years ago from USA

      I want to believe.

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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Lee, thank you so much for your thoughts! Few people now realize that Newton wrote something like 100 times as much about theology as he did about physics and calculus. All truth is God's. It is sad that humans try to keep them separate these days.

      Thank you so much for your visit and comment!

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      Lee 8 years ago

      Brother, I have been completely obsessed with the Lord Jesus since He revealed Himself to me back in 1970.I love Him with all my heart. I retired last year from 28 years in the digital camera industry. So much time for thought and study. The shroud has become my passionate current pursuit. I can't get enough of it, thinking of all the ramifications.

      Consider with me how science has at times been the enemy of truth.And now we have this object that science has almost given up hope of explaining in the natural. It's like God our loving creator has given us real proof of the supernatural, and it all rallies around the loving sacrifice of our redeemer. Can you consider any greater demonstration for our technical age, than this piece of cloth that science can't explain. And now there are literal teams being set up of particle physicists and physicists

      that are now attacking the supernatual side of the shroud looking for the secrets to the universe. Wow.

      I've been having all kinds of thoughts like, could the image be a record of His soul life. Or when the matter of His body was turned into light (energy)at the resurrection, do we have a signature of the anti-matter left behind. The hungerian particle physicist dame pitsek states we have a literal record of the entire creation of a brand new universe.

      wasn't the Lord's resurrection the firstborn from the dead.And He said,"I go to prepare a place for you."

      Anyway thanks for such a wonderful article but most thanks to all your thoughts and meditations on this most wondrous of all eartly objects,pointing to the infinite love of our creator for each of us.


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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Also true!

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      Joni Douglas 8 years ago

      Thanks for the info. I don't know too. :)

      But I remember thinking at the time that if it was real, why wouldn't they be perfect. It only made sense.

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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Hi Joni! Thanks! The last I heard about the subject there was a debate about how the distance of those body parts not in contact with the shroud impacted the 3D projection. So they didn't know how accurate those measurements were. Maybe the History Channel featured 3D image helped (maybe not) ... here's why...

      In the mid 90's I programmed computer games for a couple of major publishers. So, I was quite fascinated when I realized some of the same algorithms we were developing for 3D Games in the 90s where used to reproduce the image of the Man in the Shroud.

      That knowledge also gave me to understand that between the noise reduction techniques and the interpolation of the data points for the purposes of the 2D to 3D Transforms, there's really no good way to get a perfectly accurate measurement of a particular limb. The best we have is a pretty good approximation.

      All that to say, "I don't know!" ... but when the Shroud comes up, I just keep talking :)

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      Joni Douglas 8 years ago

      I had to reread your hubs. As I mentioned, I just watched that History Channel program the other day. I was glued to it and thought the program was fascinating. But I have a question for you. Seems to me, back in the 70s when the big news hit about the shroud and the carbon dating, I thought I remembered talk mentioning the leg and arm lengths. Experts say that the arm should be exactly the same length from wrist to elbow and from the elbow to the shoulder. The same is true for the leg above the knee and below. Now these experts said that no man's length matches perfectly but the image in the shroud shows a man with perfectly matching lengths. I was curious if you had run across any of that info in the studying you have done.

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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thank you Tony!

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      Tony McGregor 8 years ago from South Africa

      A very interesting Hub on a subject I must confess I have sort of dismissed as it seemed too improbable and perhaps not really relevant. I will have to re-think my position on this. Have read your previkous Hub on this as well.

      Very well done and thoroughly researched.

      Love and peace


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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thank you Sufi! The Reverse Perspective is fascinating! Never saw it before!

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      Sufidreamer 8 years ago from Sparti, Greece

      Thanks for that, BDazzler - it certainly is an enigmatic piece, and I am still undecided. I would dearly love to see it, as I think that it may be the only way to make a judgement, if that is possible. There is certainly something strange going on, and I think that the debate will rumble on.

      I love the way that you interwove the Hub with a little of your own spiritual journey - the shroud seems to give you a focus, which is important, and perhaps gives you a different way of looking at the Bible. I feel the same way about Dragons, believe it or not - most of my reading in history and mythology ends up there.

      As for the 3D image onto 2D - that made me think of Orthodox Icons, for some reason. They use reverse perspective to create the idea of a window into the infinity of heaven.

      Not sure if it is relevant, but it might open up another angle.

      Thanks for that - Thumbs up and I owe you a bottle of single malt :)

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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thank you James!

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      James A Watkins 8 years ago from Chicago

      This is an outstanding Hub! Thank you for the information and your insights. Illuminating!

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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thank you Judah's Daughter! Writing this article was a very moving experience for me. I'm glad you liked it!

      And thank you for the video!

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      Judah's Daughter 8 years ago from Roseville, CA

      I, too have wondered about dimensions. I ponder things like "whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven" and "loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven"; and "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven", etc. It appears that heavenly host affect earthly host and vise versa. I wish I could grasp it.

      I don't think embracing the shroud as authentic is idolatry any more than loving the cross or the Bible; taking communion or anointing with oil. I watched the History channel on the real face of Jesus and found it absolutely fascinating! I sat with great anticipation to see what our Lord may have looked like and I was in awe. I found a 37-second youtube video showing this face:

      Great hub ~ so fascinating! I just wish they would have confirmed the blood was only maternal DNA; still don't know, do we (except by faith)...THAT would have been incredible!!

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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thank GW! Sorry about that one pic!

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      The IGNITER vs Corrupted Governments 8 years ago from The U.S. Government protects Nazi War Criminals

      I wasn't doing none of that testing stuff. I was just rationally reading and really enjoying and believing...errr..ummmm..till I got to that one picture and I stopped believing. Strange really. No you are smart enough to know not to make any graven image an idol. I know that you have a good heart for God. I think your cool-and I need to get to your hubs more often. ;)

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      BDazzler 8 years ago from Gulf Coast, USA

      Thanks GW! Although I am convicnced, of it's authenticity I understand the need for "testing the spirits" ... ESP on something like this. God forbid that I make it an idol!

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      The IGNITER vs Corrupted Governments 8 years ago from The U.S. Government protects Nazi War Criminals

      Very interesting. I went to follow your other hub first because I had not seen that hub either and I read more. I actually have mixed feelings of this now, even though I was really happy to see all of this. Everything that is written and shown-much of it seems like solid proof and very reliable and I was thinking..hey this is cool...but then I was looking at the pictures and I stared at one "specifically" from all of the photographs here and I clicked off it immediately. It bothered me from what I saw and it caught me off guard.

      The data--the tests--forensics all seem very convincing to me--until I saw that one picture. There is something there in that photograph that I don't like-- it that makes me uneasy-I surpisingly have my answer. Good hub!

      Often things can be here and they may look like Jesus-or light-but they are not. Many times it is only trickery.


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