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The Cult of Ahmadiyya

Updated on October 12, 2010

Ahmad and the British

"In My Ummah, there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals),
each of whom will claim to be a prophet,
But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me."

By the 19th century India was firmly under the control of the British Empire. The east India Company had laid the foundations of British rule and for the first half of the 19th century controlled most of India with it’s own private army. The Muslims of North West India were feeling the crunch. Not only were they being pressed by Christian Missionaries but by the aggressive missionary activities of the Hindu movement, Arya Samaj, Ordinary Muslims also felt a sense of betrayal by many of their leaders. In order to curry favor with the British and advance political stature many of the leaders were advocating a complete surrender to British authority. The Muhaddith of Delhi declared; “'Having examined all the monarchies surrounding India, including those of Burma, Nepal, Afghanistan and also Persia, Egypt and Arabia, and having searched from one end of the world to another, I could not find one emperor who was worth of being the monarch of India. There is not one amongst these prospective candidates who deserves to be the emperor of this country. It is my conclusions that the British alone deserve, nay, have the right to rule India and may they continue to rule the domain.”

Unable to stomach any more capitulation, in 1857 the Muslims of Northern India rebelled beginning with the Bengali soldiers employed by the East India Company. The rebellion spread and has become known as the India’s first war of independence. After the rebellion was crushed the East India Company was dissolved and India came under direct control of the Empire. The British Raj had arrived.

Fearful of further uprisings the British sent a Parliamentary Commission of inquiry consisting of; Members of Parliament, Journalists and Church officials, to find a solution to the spirit of Jihad. In 1870 they presented their report to Parliament entitled “The arrival of the British Empire in India” their recommendation was;




Mizra Ghulam Ahmad


Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was born in the Punjab town of Qadian, February 13th 1835. His father was Mirza Ghulam Murtaza, a physician. His father, wishing to prove his loyalty to the British had donated 50 armed horsemen to fight for the British in the 1857 war. Under his father’s guidance he became a clerk in Sialkot. It was near Sialkot, in the war of independence, that his older brother, Mirza Ghulam Qadir, serving in the 46th Division of the British army under General Nicholson was credited with having killed a number of Muslim revolutionaries. There he came in contact with Christian missionaries and engaged them in discussions. It is held by his detractors that it was these Christians who put his name forward to be the seedling of the British Raj. In 1868 Mirza returned to Qadian. After some time he became known as a debater, defending Islam against Christian and Hindu clerics.

By 1882 he declared himself the Mujaddid, the reformer of Islam. Mohammed had prophesied that from time to time Islam would drift from the truth and so Allah would send someone to guide the people back to the true faith. Though many were skeptical of this claim, he wasn't the only one to make such claim,s nevertheless it was in keeping with Muslim theology and many began to believe him based on his debating and speaking skills.

Sell your soul to Ahmad

 In 1888 he declared a divine appointment and required his followers to enter into a Bay’ah. This word literally means “To sell” so his followers are literally selling their soul to him. It is commonly presented as an oath of allegiance. This Bay’at required a pledge to 10 principles that must be adhered to for the rest of the follower’s life;

  1. That till the last day of his life, he shall abstain from shirk (associating any partners with Allah).
  2. That he shall keep away from falsehood, cruelty, adultery, dishonesty, disorder, rebellion and every kind of evil.
  3. That he shall offer prayers (Salat) five times daily.
  4. That he shall not inflict injury on any of Allah’s creatures.
  5. That he would bear every hardship for the sake of Allah.
  6. That he shall not follow vulgar customs and guard against evil inclinations.
  7. That he shall discard pride and haughtiness, live in humility & meekness
  8. That he shall hold his faith, dignity, and the welfare of Islam dearer than his own life, wealth and children.
  9. That he shall have sympathy for all of God’s creatures, and devote his talents to their welfare.
  10. That he shall establish brotherhood with me (i.e.Ahmad), obeying me in all good things, and firmly adhere to these rules until the last breadth of his life.

The one to particularly notice is #10, obedience to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

Ahmad and some early followers

Mizra Ghulam Ahmad is in the center with a child on his lap.
Mizra Ghulam Ahmad is in the center with a child on his lap. | Source

The answer to everyone's prayers

As time went on his claims became even more grandiose, On march 23rd 1889 he founded Ahmadiyya Muslim Jaama’at (Community) He went on to declare himself the Mahdi the messiah of Islam and that he embodied the promised second coming of Jesus He also declared himself the last  Avatar of Krishna, an incarnation of the Hindu God. He declared that Guru Nanak, the first Sikh Guru was a Moslem. The Buddhists were not to be left out either for he declared he was the Maitreya, the return of Buddha and fulfilled all prophesies of all religions. All these claims were made in a book of several volumes that was continually being added to called, Barahin Ahmidayya. It should be noted though that Ahmadis only propagate Islam. Though their founder was supposed to be the incarnation of all religious founders, only Islam is proselytized.

This caused great controversy, not least in the Islamic community because he had come out of the Sunni sect. Moslems believe that at the time of the crucifixion Jesus ascended body and soul into Heaven and would return to herald in the last days of this world. Christians too believe that Christ would return in the flesh and not be reborn as was Ahmad. Contrary to these accepted beliefs, Ahmad stated that Jesus had fainted while on the cross and had been removed by his followers. He was later revived and journeyed to India in search of the lost tribes. Ahmed said he died of natural causes in his old age and lies buried in Kashmir. Throughout his life he argued strongly against Jihad and the use of force against the British. The Islamic community declared he was starting a new religion, heresy in their eyes and he was declared a Khafir an unbeliever.

The distinct Amidayya beliefs are;

  • That the prophecies concerning the second coming of Jesus were metaphorical in nature and not literal, and that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad fulfilled in his person these prophecies and the second advent of Jesus, that he was the promised Mahdi and Messiah.
  • The continuation of divine revelation. Although the Qur'an is the final message of God for mankind, He continues to communicate with his chosen individuals in the same way he is believed to have done in the past. All of God's attributes are eternal.
  • That Jesus, contrary to manistrem Islamic belief, was crucified and survived the four hours on the cross. He was later revived from a swoon in the tomb. Ahmadis believe that Jesus died in Kashmir of old age whilst seeking the Lost Tribes of Israel. Jesus’ remains are believed to be entombed in Kashmir under the name Yuz Asaf. 
  • Ahmadis believe that Jesus foretold the coming of Muhammad after him, which Christians have misinterpreted.
  • That Jesus Christ did not bring a new religion or law, i.e., that he was not a law-bearing prophet, but was last in the line of Israelite prophets who appeared within the dispensation of Moses akin to that of David, Solomon, Jeremiah, Isaiah, etc.
  • That the “Messiah” and the “Imam Mahdi” are the same person, and that it is through his teachings, influence, his prayers and those of his followers that Islam will defeat the Anti-Christ or Dajjal in a period similar to the period of time it took for nascent Christianity to rise and that the Dajjal's power will slowly melt away like the melting of snow, heralding the final victory of Islam and the age of peace.
  • That the history of religion is cyclic and is renewed every seven millennia. The present cycle from the time of the Biblical Adam is split into seven epochs or ages, parallel to the seven days of the week, with periods for light and darkness. That Mirza Ghulam Ahmad appeared as the Promised Messiah at the sixth epoch heralding the seventh and final age of mankind, as a day in the estimation of God is like a thousand years of man's reckoning According to Ghulam Ahmad, just as the sixth day of the week is reserved for Jumuh'ah (congregational prayers), likewise his age is destined for a global assembling of mankind in which the world is to unite under one universal religion: Islam.

Reaction of the World Moslem League

Amongst Muslims members of the cult are referred to as Qadianis; in April 1974 the World Muslim League, meeting in Mecca, issued the following declaration;

Qadianism or Ahmadiyyat: It is a subversive movement against Islam and the Muslim world, which falsely and deceitfully claims to be an Islamic sect; who under the guise of Islam and for the sake of mundane interests contrives and plans to damage the very foundations of Islam. Its eminent deviations from the basic Islamic principles are as follows:

1. Its founder claimed that he was a Prophet.

2. They deliberately distort the meanings of the verses of the Holy Quran.

3. They declared that Jihad has been abolished.

Qadianism was originally fostered by the British imperialism. Hence it has been flourishing under her flag. This movement has completely been disloyal to and dishonest in affairs of the Muslim Ummah. Rather, it has been loyal to Imperialism and Zionism. It has deep associations and cooperation with the anti Islamic forces and teachings especially through the following nefarious methods:

  1. Construction of mosques with the assistance of the anti Islamic forces wherein the misleading Qadiani thoughts are imparted to the people.
  2. Opening of schools institutions and orphanages wherein the people are taught and trained as to how they can be more anti Islamic in their activities. They also published the corrupted versions of the Holy Quran in different local and international languages.

      In order to combat these dangers, the Conference recommends the following measures:

  1. All the Muslim organization in the world must keep a vigilant eye on all the activities of Qadianis in their respective countries; to confine them all strictly to their schools, institutions and orphanages only. Moreover the Muslims of the world be shown the true picture of Qadianism and be briefed of their various tactics so that the Muslims of the world be saved from their designs.
  2. They must be declared non Muslims and ousted form the fold of Islam. And be barred to enter the Holy lands.
  3. There must be no dealings with the Qadianis. They must be boycotted socially, economically and culturally nor they be married with or to nor they be allowed to be buried in the Muslims graveyards. And they be treated like other non Muslims.
  4. All the Muslim countries must impose restrictions on the activities of the claimant of Prophet hood Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani’s followers; must declare them a non Muslim minority must not entrust them with any post of responsibility in any Muslim country.
  5. The alterations effected by them in the Holy Quran must be made public and the people be briefed of them and all these be prohibited for further publication.

The London Mosque


Death and legacy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Molvi Sanaullah Amratsari (1868-15th March 1948), an Imam, had been challenging him for years. Finally, Ahmad wrote to him that whoever was telling lies should die in the lifetime of the other of plague or cholera. On 26 May 1908, a year after he said this, Ahmad died in Lahore (Pakistan). His body was carried to, and buried at Qadian, where he was born.

So ended the life of a highly controversial man though his story is far from over. Many Qadianis moved to England to escape persecution from the Moslem Community and they have a large Mosque in London. They declare themselves Moslem but the Islamic world denounces them as heretics. They denounce the Jihad but their detractors say this is because their founder was a British agent. For those outside the broad Islamic community, the Ummah, contact with the Qadianis comes from annoying and persistent missionary endeavors. Usually of the kind that do nothing to inform or edify. The adherents of this cult have endured a great deal of persecution, the Pakistani constitution forbids them calling themselves “Moslem” and has a number of strict injunctions against them. An Ahmadiyyat is not allowed to make the pilgrimage to Mecca and they have faced death at the hands of militants. Only in the western democracies are they free to preach openly and declare themselves Moslem, only time will tell whether or not they will be taken seriously.

In recent years attempts have been made to modify the original pronouncements of Ahmad and to make the doctrines come more in line with orthodox Moslem belief. Though the present day doctrine has undergone significant transformation, the fact that Ahmad was such a prolific writer makes such attempts at obfuscation appear dishonest. His claim to be a prophet like Mohammed and the second coming of the Christian Messiah are documented and refute the modern day attempts to say they were only "Metaphorical."



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      Mohammad Kashif Khalid 4 years ago from QADIAN

      Ahmadiyyat Zindabaad

      Ahmadiyyat Means : True Islam

      One Community One Leader

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      Munim 5 years ago

      Actually you didn't worked hard to bring out the truth. You don't know that what prophecy had Mirza Sahib made about the last one and neither the background. I'll simply request you all to try to know the truth working hard before commenting on something. Most of the people do not go to depth and the hardcore. And I can see you guys just did so.

      To know what Ahmadiyyat actually is, go to, please.

      May Allah bless you and guide you in right path to realize the truth.

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      khmohsin 6 years ago


      It seems that you put lot of efforts in collecting this material.All the information is true specially about Ahmadias and its not baseless.I appreciate your effort and only can say thank you for sharing with us.

      See more related information on this link

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      sunbeams 6 years ago from Cairns , Australia

      I had some idea about Ahmadias..but not in such detail.I enjoyed reading this hub.Thanks.

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      faiza 7 years ago

      im commenting on what (AnAhmadi) said. So if you undersood ahmadiyyat properly and with your heart. Or if you even tried to understand than you wouldn't be saying that. So i will jus pray for you and all other commenters on this hub. May allah have mercy on you and show you the right path. Ameen

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      faiza 7 years ago

      this person doesnt even no anything about ahmadiyyat. Hes just trying to spread hatred. Prophet mohammed (saw) also said that you should not discriminate anyone what ever their belief is you should show love to every one. )You see how ruined pakistan and most islamic countries are ,thats because people like this author are spreading hatred and killing other people and these people call them selfs good muslims. Allah is punishing these people. If you want to find out truth about ahmadiyyat then you should go on to this website or watch the channel mta sky 787 you can also ask questions on the live program called rah-e-huda every saturday at 5.20 pm on mta sky 787. An advise for every one dont just listen to someone talking about a religion find it yourself by askin a person who follows that religion or go on their websites.

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      AnAhmadi 7 years ago

      As as an Ahmadi myself, I agree with with the cult like behaviour, there are deeper problems within the members, we are not free to make our own judgement especially if you are unfortunate enough like me to be born into this cult, Their slogan, "Love for all, hatred to none" is not true at all, their arrogance is so much that having a normal intellectual conversation with them on religion is frowned upon, I wish I could leave but their humilate you if you do!

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      imranhaider 7 years ago

      nice hub

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Humanity; First point is that if you read my Hub you will see that I have included a link to alislam so any of my readers may examine it for themselves. May I also make an observation;

      There was a particulalrly obnoxious person on the forums of this site who continously described himself as "AN ahmadiyya peaceful Moslem" however he made inflamatory remarks began posts continously on the same subject, refused to get into any serious discourse, disrespected the article based nature of this site, disrespected the intellect of any who tried to engage him in civil discourse and was a total pain. This behaviour encouraged me to examine the Ahmadiyya cult and I found it wanting.

      You, and my other readers, may notice a peculiar thing. All those who have an opposing view to me on this subject are not participants in the writing of Hubs. Just like the aforementioned forum troll.

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      Humanity 7 years ago

      Anyone who disagrees with the Ahmadi Muslim belief most likely does not know what the Ahmadi belief is and therefore going to misrepresent it. A person seeking to learn about the beliefs of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community should look at the source :

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Hello Christopher: thank you for the compliments.

      I share your disregard for organized religion. I have a problem with others telling me what and how I should lead my life and if the messiah appeared before me and turned water into beer, I'd tell him that I already have a home brew kit so no thanks.

      Your right, the people who have this "God of Love" and "Allah the compassionate and merciful" are the first ones to start shooting. All the rest of us can do is duck.

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      Christopher Price 7 years ago from Vermont, USA

      This was a fine dissertation on a subject I knew nothing about and hope to soon forget.

      I have very little regard for any organized religion having paid my dues being raised Catholic, serving 10 years as an altar boy.

      I must say I do hold Jesus in high esteem...anyone who would turn water into wine for his first public miracle is my kinda messiah.

      Do you think that when "the meek shall inherit the earth" was coined someone mistranslated "irreligious" for "meek". 'Cause once these religious folks kill one another off maybe the rest of us can finally live in peace.


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      Mark Knowles 7 years ago


      Staunch huh? Why on earth would anyone need to add the word "staunch"? LOL Dear me.

      Far as I am concerned - any group that worships an imaginary super being is a cult. Hard to tell if the Muslim cults are any worse than the Christ cultists.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      M. Gernetti; Thank you for bringing entertainment to this article. You present yourself as just another toffee nosed snob who cannot abide the notion of an educated working class.

      That said, you mention a "Cult Expert" My labelling the Qadianis as a cult is only my repeating what is said by the World Moslem League and the many writers in the links I have provided.

      Your insinuation that I am a "Staunch Atheist' will have me chuckling for days.

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      M.Gernetti 7 years ago

      This bus driver does not have sufficient knowledge or qualification to label any sect of a major religion as a cult. If you want to know what a cult looks and smells like, read the works of Steven Hassan, a cult expert. His works can help those interested tell the difference between an actual "cult" and a small religious minority group "doing their own thing". It would come as little surprise if those staunch atheists fail to see any difference due to their bias - but people who posses a discerning mind would greatly benefit from learning what a "cult" actually is.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Basiyr Rodney; Thank you for reading and commenting. I truly appreciate the way that you have come forward to engage me on this subject. I am of the opinion that a great deal can be learned from civil and honest discourse.

      I cannot but be impressed by the Ahmadiyya committment to peace, but(and there's always a but) I have to point out that the abolishment of Jihad is only one of the objections mainstream Islam has. Others are also mentioned in the article including the Ahmidayya rejection of the belief in the ascension of the Christ and his actual return in the last days. Also the claims of the founder that he was both Mahdi and Messiah.

      These are far more serious accusations in the Moslem community.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Qasim Rashid; ay I thank you for taking the time to read my "Propaganda" Though I fail to see anywhere my statement that I am a better teacher of Ahmadiyya than the followers of the sect. If you wish respect for your self and/or your beliefs you would do well not to make untrue statements.

      I applaud your injunction to readers to do due diligence and seek out their own answers. The best compliment my writing could ever receive is if it inspires others to use it as a base to study further.

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      Basiyr Rodney 7 years ago

      Ahmadiyya The Cult of Peace

      First let me say that I am pleased to see a piece on my "cult" at this hub. I think there is much detail included in this article. I commend the author for taking time to do the review of some sources. I think it is a great point of departure for any seeker after truth. The fact that conditions 5, 6, 7, and 9 above speak to peace and caring to others makes this cult of peace a great place to be. Notice too that as the author points out that the world muslim league was upset because Ahmad abolished jihad. What kind of person would find anything bad, wrong or inappropriate in "loving and not harming God's creatures"

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      Qasim Rashid 7 years ago

      I find it peculiar that a person who is anti-Islam Ahmadiyya professes to be a better teacher of their beliefs than the actual members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. If I want to learn about Judaism, I won't go to Hamas and ask them, I'll go to a Jewish Rabbi. If I want to learn about African American history, I won't go to the KKK, I'll go to an actual historian. Likewise, I implore everyone here to do their due diligence and actually research the message of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad through his own writings, not through the "research" of a person bent upon calling him a cult leader. That's not research, but propaganda, and no fair minded person should let such nonsense enter their sphere of thought.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Hello Martin; Thank you for contributing.

      Strange question you pose, when researching a subject there is nothing to expect only discover, that is the nature of research.

      I do not believe the members of this cult are British agents, the accusation is that their founder was supported by the British as a way for them to influence Indian Moslems and, by saying he was the last Avatar of Krishna he could influence the Hindu also.

      The Militant Pakistanis are particularly angry towards the Ahmadiyyas, thank you for including that information.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Welcome back Tipoague; Thank you for reading and commenting and yes it is very sad the way religion is used to manipulate people into warfare.

      I look forward to reading your wotk.

      Best Wishes...........ianto

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      Martin 7 years ago

      "the Moslem work colleagues I called to discuss the subject with all painted it in a very poor light."

      What did you expect?

      A real law from Islamic Pakistan;


      ORDINANCE NO. XX OF 1984 PART II - AMENDMENT OF THE PAKISTAN PENAL CODE (ACT XLV OF 1860) (3) 298C... Any person of the Quadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves ‘Ahmadis’ or by any other name), who … invites others to accept his faith, by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representations, or in any manner whatsoever outrages the religious feelings of Muslims, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine."


      No mention of being British agents, just religious persecution as far as I can tell.


      PAKISTAN: No action taken against Geo TV presenter who incited Muslims to murder members of Pakistan minority on air

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      Tammy 7 years ago from USA

      Interesting hub! It is interesting to read about the different religions of other cultures. It is sad to see war break out though in the name of religion. Great writing. I'm looking forward to reading more.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Hello Eiddwen; Thank you, you do me too much honor.

      I totally agree that so much physical mental and spiritual pain is caused by religious factions that those of us not directly involved can do little other than feel the sadness you mention.

      Pob Bendith iddo'ch

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      Eiddwen 7 years ago from Wales

      Hello ianto, your hub is well written and very well researched. Isn't it sad that in the name of religion so much sadness and grief comes about!!

      Thank you for sharing and I have learnt a lot.

      Da iawn ianto.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Seafarer Mama; Thank you for reading and commenting. I'm glad you find the Hub useful.

      I agree totally, it is a shame how these things get so out of control.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      hello John; Thank you for reading this Hub. I would hardly call the Qadiani movement "Weak" However the statements from varied sources supporting the allegation are many and quite persuasive. I'm sure a visit to the local Library would help you.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Shil1978; Thank you for reading my Hub, I had the luxury of spending a lot of time in the Library this past week. Amazing what there still is to learn from books. :)

      Best Wishes........Ianto

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      hello SiddSingh; Thank you for reading and rating.

      You are absolutley right, though the revolt was began by the Bengali soldiers and is sometimes referred to as "The Sepoy revolt" it spread to the Hindu and Sikh population because even though many members of the Indian middle and upper class were able to embrace British patronage, the ordinary people of India chafed under occupation.

      I placed the revolt in the context of Islamic Jihad because;

      a) That was how it began, and

      b) It appears that the British saw the pacifying of the Moslems as the first priority.

      However it should never be forgotten that India gained independece through the Hindu inspired Peoples Congress.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      dutchman 1951; Thank you for reading and commenting. I hope you find the information useful.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Hi Scarytaff; Unfortunately it is true, more death has been caused by people trying to bring others to their version of God than in any other way. Yet everyone says their God is a God of love. I was always far more impressed by the Vikings who said "My gods are warriors and we're here to kick your ass" Brutal but far more honest than the religions of today.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Ultimate Hubber; Thanks for commenting and I want you to know that I am an admirer of your writing and of your presence on Hubpages.

      This past week I've been home with an injury so I had the time to spend at the library, we have some really good ones around LA. My main source for a lot of information was Baharin Ahmidayya, the massive work he completed himself. Of course there was no way I could get through it all so I referenced the index for relevant information. I have a lot more than what would comfortably fit in a Hub. The library also had a wealth of information for and against the Qadianis and numerous biographies. This Hub tends towards the negative but the Moslem work colleagues I called to discuss the subject with all painted it in a very poor light.

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      Karen A Szklany 7 years ago from New England

      Good writing IantoPF. Lots of enlightening information.

      It's sad to see that Muslims are so attached to jihad, though. It incites violence, so much unnecessary. I'm a pacifist who would love to see the end of it.

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      John 7 years ago

      It is held by his detractors that it was these Christians who put his name forward to be the seedling of the British Raj. In 1868 Mirza returned to Qadian.

      Is there any evidence of this and that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is actually an agent of the British? Seems to be a lot of hearsay; mountain out of a molehill. Its actually quite easy to kick the weak.

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      Shil1978 7 years ago

      Excellent hub, Ian. Am familiar with the clashes in Pakistan based on Shia/Sunni/Ahmadiyya sects.

      I wasn't aware of the history of the Ahmadiyyas though - thanks for this well written and informative hub!!

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      SiddSingh 7 years ago

      Hi Ian,

      Great read, as usual. Rated up!

      Although I wouldn't really agree with the part about the 1857 War Of Independence (or Revolt - if you will) being borne out of Muslim anger exclusively. There were other notables too - Rani Lakshmibai, Tanty Tope, Kunwar Singh et al - all Hindus.

      Of course, the throne was Delhi was under a Muslim (Mughal), but at that time, the throne of Delhi did not represent whole of India - as a political entity.

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      dutchman1951 7 years ago from Tennessee, USA

      thank you, this was very informative.

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      Derek James 7 years ago from South Wales

      Well written, Ianto. Isn't it amazing that fanatics can murder and maim in the name of religion. It happens in all religions unfortunately.

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      Ultimate Hubber 7 years ago

      That is a lot of information.

      I already knew a few things about them but this one is an impressive piece of writing, well-researched and every thing written here seems really true to me but can you please provide me with some references/sources especially about his death and his mini biography you wrote above?

      Any books on the subject?

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      Mark Knowles 7 years ago

      I did not realise that. Oh well - all we can hope to do is keep out if the way and pray that they all kill each other without taking us with them LOL. We have had riots here in France recently over the stupid burka ban.

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      Peter Freeman 7 years ago from Pen-Bre, Cymru/Wales

      Hiya mark; thanks for commenting. Actually it's already happening. You may remember hearing about that Mosque in Pakistan where 95 people got killed last year. That was an Amidayya mosque.

      I share your concerns about manipulation too.

      Thanks again and Best Wishes........ianto

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      Mark Knowles 7 years ago

      The British Government Inc is very, very familiar with using people's irrational beliefs to manipulate them. Any one who believe in an invisible super being is - of course - extremely susceptible to this sort of manipulation. Let us hope it does not cause the next big war.

      This particular cult is no more or less dangerous than the existing versions of Islam. The only real danger is if they actually become powerful enough to be a threat to mainstream Islam. Then we will see some killings.


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