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The Two Churches

Updated on December 20, 2012

The Two Churches

We as Christians must realize that there are two churches in the world.

One (actually many, all denominational and many others) that professes to be the church of Jesus Christ and one that IS the church of Jesus Christ. Of course there are many others, but since they do not profess to be related to Jesus they are of no concern to us and we will not address them.

Most Christians are looking for God to change the current worldly churches into Godly places. This WILL NOT happen. God is in fact in the process of removing His presence from them totally and permanently. This has been occurring for some time and will soon be finished.

Those who are engrossed in all the games that are being played, the jockeying for position, the being recognized of man, the playing god and all the other things that are keeping God's people busy doing things other than truly serving God, will have to have a place to continue in their works. God is going to allow them to keep "their church world" and will have His True People to come out. This also has been going on for some time.

The True people of God MUST learn to hear the Masters voice for themselves and when they do learn this they will have no option but to COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

They will not allow the world church to continue to hold them by the guilt trips, etc. that they are using. BUT where will they go?

Who cares, now that they can hear the Masters voice, He will lead them to where He wants them to be.

We must be like Abram in Genesis 12:1-4 and be ready and willing to let Him guide us to a place He will show us.

We must stop trying to manipulate God by asking for signs and such.

We MUST HEAR His voice and respond.

HE WILL NOT PLAY THE GAMES that some are still looking for, but He will lead us with the still small voice that He has used for so-oooo long. We will meet in homes, in the street, in restaurants, in church buildings, on mountains, in valleys wherever God TELLS us to.

We will all understand "that where two or more are gathered in My name there I am in the midst of them".

We are not forsaking the gathering together etc, but WE ARE meeting WITH GOD as HE commands and we will be doing as He wants us to do.

We also need to understand the devil. So many Christians falsely believe that the devil has some power over them. HE DOES NOT. Jesus defeated him at the cross and when He said, "it is finished ", IT WAS FINISHED.

The devil is an agent of God, his purpose is to expose our flesh that we may crucify it (Gal 5). The only power he has over a Christian is in the areas where we will not allow God access. This disobedience gives the devil legal access to that part of our life. See Genesis 3:14 the only thing the devil can eat of ours is dust, that part that is not given to God.

When we realize that the devil has NO control or access to our lives other than what WE give to him then we can truly walk in victory. Then we will be able to hear the Masters voice, then we will be able to "come out" and wait for His instructions and then FOLLOW HIM FULLY.

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    Hxprof 3 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

    Celafoe, you're right on about the state of all the churches - what I like to refer to as churchianity. The true church is being called out of the false, a process which continues and will be aided by the increasing intensity of the birth pangs.

    I want to quote you here as this is very important: "When we realize that the devil has NO control or access to our lives other than what WE give to him then we can truly walk in victory. Then we will be able to hear the Masters voice, then we will be able to "come out" and wait for His instructions and then FOLLOW HIM FULLY." Correct. Satan has no power except that which we allow. Christ leads the Christian through a process like the process through which He led the first disciples; it's a wilderness journey during which all the stuff that's not right in our hearts is exposed and dealt with. It takes time and energy in cooperation with Christ, but eventually, if we don't turn our back on Christ's commandments, we become "mature, complete, lacking nothing". Satan's influence over us is then virtually eliminated.

    Voted up.

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    charlie 4 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

    ALL denominations are an abomination. and so are many non-denominations. They are ALL founded because someone or group of someones decided they were smarter than any other group and their interpretation of scripture IS the only correct one. The carnality of these people is obvious and blatant and if you disagree try to show them a truth. They will not listen, they are only interested in promoting THEIR beliefs.

    When there is a disagreement over interpretation the scriptural way to resolve it is to get together and everyone involved LAY DOWN THEIR PERSONAL BELIEFS and together with the help of the Holy Spirit find the CORRECT interpretation. That is not difficult if the those involved truly believe the scriptures, desire to follow God at all costs and are willing to see truth when presented. First though all involved MUST be born again, Baptized in water and Baptized in/with the Holy Spirit.

    Without these three steps NO carnal man can lay down his personal desires for greatness nor can he understand scripture correctly. I have been around a long time and I have not met more men than I can count on my two hands that are willing to do this. I know there are many more but I have not met them and most that I have met are not in the USA.

    I look at quite a few places where there discussions that are supposed to be Christians discussing scripture but almost all of them are carnal men trying to push their church doctrines on others.

    When people are just parroting the doctrines of their church (yes I have studied many of these doctrines extensively) and you try to show them truth, they just get upset and attack, which is a trait of the enemy. If you cannot refute the information destroy the messenger.

    If you cannot with your own understanding defend your beliefs with scripture in context , then you need to listen and then GO to the scripture and study the issue with an eye to finding the truth, whatever it is , maybe both of you are wrong. Without the ability to do this you will be forever trapped into someone else's beliefs that may be totally opposite from scripture.

    A good example of what I am talking about is this. The unscriptural doctrine of the rapture of the saints from the earth. The scriptures they use to promote it say exactly the opposite of what they are teaching but they will parrot them and call you a heretic if you try to show them what it actually says. These scriptures Matt 24:37 and Luke 17:26 say

    Luke 17:26-28 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.

    The unrighteous were taken from the earth, when the flood waters decreased there was not one of them left. Yet they say the righteous are taken. There is not one scripture that says that but there are many that say the Righteous shall INHERIT the earth.

    We need to really promote scriptural truth, whether it kills our sacred cows or not is immaterial, all that matters is TRUTH. If church was not such a lucrative business we would see more "leaders" doing so , but that would upset people and cause a decrease not an increase in the kingdoms these HIRELINGS are building ( to say nothing of the cost to them in dollars). (man can be male or female).

    We have to stop pandering to these carnal people and EXPOSE them for the frauds they are. Paul did it and he named names, and so should we.

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    einron 4 years ago from Toronto, Ontario, CANADA

    There is only Jesus' Church and the rest of the other churches. When I wrote about denominations, there were only 40,965 but now there are more.

    What is your take on this?

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    charlie 5 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans


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    einron 6 years ago

    Very true. There are only two churches in the world, Jesus Church and the Rest. You are either completely for Jesus or not. There is no in between. However, God allows us to change and this does take time. Jesus was born over 2000 years ago and we still are struggling to get it right.

    May God guide us to victory!