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The determined believer in hell part 3

Updated on June 18, 2013

Their molech mentality

When I was a soldier in the military, I was taught something very valuable while participating in a leadership course. We were taught the golden rule of leadership is to lead by example. This rule doesn’t only apply to military life, it also applies in family life. Responsible parents also know that to be a good role model for their children, they need to live by example for them. However, this is not the case when it comes to modern day evangelists and their belief of God and who He is. They have given God another standard. It is "Do as I say and not as I do" standard of belief. A perfect example is when they teach us that God commands us to love, bless and forgive our enemies unconditionally, but the standard God has for His enemies is the exact opposite as it is taught by most pastors in the Church. Because they teach that God will throw all of His enemies to a place of eternal torture and have the audacity to call it holy justice. I call this a double standard and there can be no denial. Like I called this belief earlier in both part 1 and 2 on this topic, this spiritual terrorism is applauded in the Church. A while back, a highly respected American pastor had a sermon called "The Seven Wonders of hell". Pastor John Hagee was his typical self in this sermon, but what is disturbing is when he said.

"Every man, every woman, every boy and every girl who dies without knowing Jesus Christ spends an eternity in a city where the fire is never quenched forever and ever all you're going to hear are the screams and the sobs and suffering forever and forever and forever ... and it's justice!"

Mr. Hagee at that statement builds to a crescendo with his voice when soliciting an applause, as he did in this statement. The congregation then began to snicker, laugh, and then broke out into an enthusiastic applause. After all, such people believe that God believes that those who are eternally tortured deserve it and therefore they themselves must also believe that those who are eternally tortured deserve it. This attitude one has against an unbeliever has what I call spiritual cancer. If you ask any of them if given the power, would they save those who they believe are in some place called hell, you won't get a straight answer. Some of them will be honest and say no!, Some would like to say yes, but the fear of being more merciful than God takes over so it is better to say nothing at all. It is called the molech mentality. When Jewish parents during ancient times of Israel were required to offer their new born baby to the fires of the monster pagan god molech, they were not allow to show remorse or emotion. Here you have a beautiful new born baby slowly, mercilessly being lowered in the sacrificial fire screaming in agony and the parents can show no emotions at all. Are determined believers of hell any different? It isn't God who demands this justice.

The Valley of Slaughter

Jeremiah 7:30 “‘The people of Judah have done evil in my eyes, declares the Lord. They have set up their detestable idols in the house that bears my Name and have defiled it. 31 They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom (Gehenna) to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind.

It is these Christians who do demand this form of horrific justice. Because if you combine a carnal view to scripture with fear, blind ego, self-righteous pride, a hidden desire for vengeance and spark the religious engine with a pharisaical spirit. You get a determined believer of hell. A spiritual terrorist with spiritual cancer. To suppose that God would bring beings into existence for both His purpose and pleasure who He knew in advance without mercy would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him a hypocrite with the utmost malignity. Praise God that isn't the case, because His anger is for but a moment, but His love is always. Because He is the saviour of all mankind, especially we believers 1Tim4:10. Peace.


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    • SwordofManticorE profile imageAUTHOR


      4 years ago from Burlington

      Just another spiritual terrorist preaching fear instead of joy and peace.

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      4 years ago

    • SwordofManticorE profile imageAUTHOR


      4 years ago from Burlington

      Praise God and all glory be given to Him. knowbyhim, you cannot imagine the joy and peace I found in your words. May you continue to be blessed by Him to bring more peace and joy to others.

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      4 years ago

      Hello SwordofManticorE,

      Yes, it is the Molech mentality....and this 'mentality' must be repented of, the word 'repent' is the greek word 'metanoia' and means to 'take a new mind, to change the mind'.....and the NEW MIND can only be found in the mind of Christ, putting on the mind of Christ, being transformed in the Spirit of the mind.

      The Lord graciously gave me the desire to repent of the belief in eternal torment....I have been given a new mind to see that ALL WILL BE SAVED in due time, each man in his own order (1Cor15:20-22, 1Tim.4:10).

      Two of the biggest strongholds that keep a believer in Christ from seeing the truth of the ultimate reconciliation of all things are the strongholds of eternal torment AND free-will.....these two strongholds work in conjunction with each other....and are rooted in fear and self righteousness....and are completely FALSE.....and it is only the grace of God that can cause a believer to finally repent of this false mindset and embrace the truth that Jesus is who He says He is....the savior of the WHOLE WORLD and none will be lost, not one.

      Many believers will then ask....well then what about Justice?

      God is Just and He is love.... He is ONE.

      Yes, there will be justice, there will be correction, and this will happen to all those who deny Christ while they were on earth....and yet, this correction will not be endless, the scriptures call this period of time aionian chastening....(matt.25:41; 1Pet.3:19).

      The Lord's correction is not endless, there will come a time when the one in prison will have the good news preached to them and will be given the grace to hear, to see, and to receive the salvation of the Lord.....Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and He went and preached to those spirits in prison (1Pet.3:19) and took captivity captive, He will also preach to all those who die in their trespasses and sins and are now in Sheol receiving correction.....His judgements are always purposed in love and unto redemption and victory. (Matt.12:20; Rom.14:11).

      I praise the Lord that He has His 'Jeremiah's' in the earth....those that are called to 'tear down' the strongholds, to pluck up the false teachings, and you dear SwordofManticorE are being used of the Lord to do proclaim the truth that ALL WILL BE SAVED....and to speak out against the false teaching of eternal torment.

      His continued blessings unto you....


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      5 years ago

      This is interesting:

      When Jewish parents during ancient times of Israel were required to offer their new born baby to the fires of the monster pagan god molech, they were not allow to show remorse or emotion

      Didn't 'god' also require Aaron not to show emotion when his son's died? He forbade him to grieve for them. What makes the jewish/christian 'god' any different?

      I'm also curious about this tidbit: the fear of being more merciful than God takes over so it is better to say nothing at all.

      It's always been associated with 'pride', mainly luciferian pride which sought to think that he could be a 'god' and usurp the throne. Apparently 'fearing' that you could do anything better than 'god' including questioning or being 'angry' meant that you're rebelling. This part doesn't make any sense to me anymore because I lived in 'fear' and I grew tired of it, so I began asking the hard questions, why? Because if people have the audacity and the nerve to question every other religion on the planet minus their own, then why not question religion completely? There has never been any manifestation of 'god' that has made such headlines. I refuse to live in fear, to be pushed into a corner to submit and obey because that puts me in a position of being vulnerable to one particular religion and if we don't choose the right one, there is always a definite 'hell' waiting for me. No, I will not put myself in that position where I trust my whole life to one part of the whole spectrum and be satisfied with that. So many folks say that I'm looking at man, not at 'god'. Well if 'god' was present, then I wouldn't have to be looking at man to begin with. I don't play games.

      I have been following your hubs and I can understand that you have questions. I can also identify with being shunned and called a heretic because I wouldn't settle for crap and I was kicked out of church. I'm not returning to more madness or abuse. It's either real or it isn't, and if it isn't I'm not going to go my entire life in submission to one pastor or preacher, nor am I going to jump from church to church looking because I don't play games.

      I think you are on the right path to question and not settle for anything less than the truth, than facts as opposed to the nonsense hurtful chastising teachings of people who've only disassociated their own ego's and called it 'god' and expect you to submit to them.

      Voted up. :)

    • SwordofManticorE profile imageAUTHOR


      5 years ago from Burlington

      It is my belief that His mercy will extend to all of His creation. Paul spoke and wrote about this. The ministry of reconciliation of all with God our Father.

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      Dora Weithers 

      5 years ago from The Caribbean

      SwordofManticorE, it is true that we never win other people to our beliefs by condemning them. I choose to believe that the mercy that God extends to some, He will extend to those who honestly seek Him, and He will lead us in the path of righteousness if we obey Him. Some who lag behind will catch up, hopefully on time.

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      Daniel Nathan Taylor 

      5 years ago from United Kingdom, Liverpool

      Great hub mate, you're right some people just seem to have their mind set on this idea of hell even when it is not morally or biblically justified.

      Thanks for writing this hub and hope to see more from you soon!


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