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What Price Honor?

Updated on May 2, 2019

The Price Tag for Honor

In a recent news brief, the National Rifle Association traveled to a Confederate Monument to place a wreath to honor the "war" dead.

Should they have? So, the question is this: Where was the honor of the Confederacy when they sent poor farm boys to fight in a war to keep states' rights for rich plantation owners to keep, buy and sell free slave labor?

Where was the honor when 900,000 of these young boys ended up dead from war injuries, lack of proper medical attention and various diseases?

Where was the honor for Robert E. Lee who was charged with treason and then released when General Lee said in his papers he wanted the Confederate Flag FURLED and kept in a museum and his Confederates of the present totally disrespect his wishes? And worse, use that flag to intimidate and display their racism and bigotry.

Where is the honor when the Stars and Bars today is a symbol of KKK rallies of the past and now White Nationalists?

For generations, these Confederates have tried to claim the Civil War they still haven't the honor to admit they lost, was ONLY about states' rights.

Yet, they never do explain why 5 of their Confederate disgruntled soldiers plotted to kill Lincoln and his cabinet. Where is the honor in that?

Where was the honor in a coward Confederate soldier assassinating the most loved president in US history as soon as he signed the Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves?

They talk about their honor they wear like so many stars on their Confederate uniforms in one breath and show more hypocrisy when they cannot get it through their heads that their part in the Civil War is not going to ever be erased.

Where was the honor in fighting to secede from the Union so rich, powerful plantation owners could continue to live high and mighty ONLY due to free labor?

Now, that word "honor" has been further neutralized by enablers of ludicrous and recognizably enabling attitudes and behaviors.

We who know what honor is and what it isn't know we can never allow the dishonorable to continue to push their hateful agendas.

We know that honor means looking into one's own soul for answers to reverse hate. We who know honor know honor cannot be bought or sold for any price.

Either you have it or you don't.

Honor is that enigmatic maxim that has seen most Americans through our darkest hours. Honor is what we all saw on that terrible day on 9/11..Honorable men and women who knowingly walked into incinerated buildings seeking survivors.

Honor are our men and women in the military who don't just fight war but leave the best examples of what being an honorable American really means.

Dishonor is men and women who hide behind a phony flag that has NO meaning other than putting it above the Stars and Stripes so many honorable men and women still fight for.

Dishonorable people are always full of themselves. They strut and swagger, boast and brag on their own vacant, vapid issues and accomplishments.

But, when the hardest decisions must be made and no decisions look good, the dishonorable flee like rats on a sinking ship.

The time to show honor is when you hear lie after lie after lie and stand up to the liar.

The time to show your honor is when you courageously refuse to allow violent haters to try to spew their hate all over the country.

Honor is dutifully making sure you use your Constitutional right to vote and choose only those candidates you know are good for ALL Americans and not just the privileged few.

The privileged few are more and more showing they are not honorable people we can trust.

If they can't be trusted not to enrich themselves without bankrupting the rest of the country, Where is the HONOR in that?

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    • ValKaras profile image

      Val Karas 

      2 years ago from Canada

      Eleanore -- Our little misunderstanding only shows how hubbers may have different habits when it comes to responding -- or not -- to others' comments. Some (like myself) will acknowledge, or elaborate a little on others' comments, whereas some others (like yourself) will only do it if you have a counter-argument to offer.

      Both is O.K., as far as I care, it's only to my regret when I misinterpret others' habits and judge them by example of my own habits. Then I may use words that were not entirely appropriate.

      Besides, with this last comment you made a little more clear your position about the genders. --- All the best. Val.

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      Eleanore Ferranti Whitaker 

      2 years ago from Old Bridge, New Jersey

      Vlad, when I don't respond, it is because I agree with your post. However, if I was remiss, I apologize.

      A good journalist always avoids redundancy. So to respond to posts I agree with would do just that.

      I did appreciate your eloquent response.

      My observation of men as a gender is they seem far more aware of "honor" than many women are.

      Maybe that is because some men are bred to be protectors of others and have military experience that only until the last 2 decades women had in equal measure.

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      Val Karas 

      2 years ago from Canada

      Eleanore --- LOL, I just realized why you never as much as acknowledge any of my comments -- BECAUSE I AM A MAN.

      After so much talk about "honor", I am not sure what it's all about if a relatively coherent "male" can't deserve as little as a small note of acknowledgement -- not a "thanks for responding", but at least a word or two in the name of a simple courtesy that we show to other hubbers. Especially if there is nothing offensive in their comment that would justify ignoring..

      Boy, what would good old Papa Freud say about this aversion towards men after this harsh generalization against male gender.

      Well, I am not Italian, and my sense of honor is not ethnically dictated but morally. Assuming that my comments are not up to your very high standards of intelligence(???) there is still that basic question of decency, which might even have something to do with "honor" in which you are such an expert.

      Unlike yourself, I may have a selective respect for women, not prone to generalizations. I think that one has to deserve a respect, not demand it, and when a woman doesn't deserve it, I let her know.

    • Ewent profile imageAUTHOR

      Eleanore Ferranti Whitaker 

      2 years ago from Old Bridge, New Jersey

      Being born to an Italian immigrant father, it is easy to see why "honor" with me is so important. Family honor is so closely linked to pride in family name.

      But, the older a woman grows, the more she realizes that her ears are hearing all too many militant, strident male voices, some of which simply replicate the same childish attitudes and behaviors we already saw as children in our siblings and school mates.

      Many Boomer women of the 60s, rationalized that there just was not a way to sacrifice 50 more years of their lives to men who couldn't or wouldn't ever be responsibly honorable.

      I was one of those freebirds and freethinkers who chose freedom over an MRS degree. That is not to say we do not honor and respect women who are married and stay that way.

      What a lot of highly educated women seem bewildered by is that today's males so easily try to turn wrong into right.

      How then do they justify that to their children? Do they teach their kids that lying is okay so long as it creates the basis of "innocence" even in the face of guilt.

      I do believe that I am glad I will not be around for another 20 years to see an entire generation of children crushed under the weight of irresponsibility and lack of accountability.

      Honor can never be borne of lack of responsibility no matter what any Americans' heritage be.

      Honor cannot ever be an excuse for supplanting fast and easy for that which requires effort and oft times challenge to our minds and souls.

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      Kathleen Cochran 

      2 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Honor is rare these days, but it still exists. If we want to see more of it, we need to stop excusing the lack of it - from the top down.

    • Ewent profile imageAUTHOR

      Eleanore Ferranti Whitaker 

      2 years ago from Old Bridge, New Jersey

      Sorry Doris, but I do not agree with your all too predictable, "The North Did it Too!" attitude.

      Did the North hand over millions to help rebuild your south? Did the north help restore the Dust Bowl in the Midwest?

      You love to make it appear we Yankees were as bad as your rotten, cheap, plantation owners most of whom were located in the south

      Tell me. Where in the midwest did they grow sugar cane? Or tobacco? Or Cotton?

      My ex's grandmother, born and raised in Florida, as south as it gets, as a child worked on a GA plantation.

      Her family was poor and were sharecroppers. You do recall how those sharecroppers came about don' t you?

      According to history books, when your rich, wealthy plantation owners could no longer buy, sell and own free slave labor, they handed these sharecroppers a shack to live in and a small patch of land to raise what they ate.

      No need to deny. There is dishonor when southerners get their backs up even after it was the North that paid the taxes that rebuilt the south.

      Even when our taxes bailed out the midwestern states from that dreadful Dust Bowl during the Great Depression.

      When you tried to play that "The Yankees did it Too" line, you need to recall that those plantations were largely located in the south. There were 3 times as many southern plantations as in the midwest.

      And one of those rich plantation ownes still to this day is practiciing that "Plantation" mentality...The Walton Family who owned 11 plantations and now have a nation of underpaid Walmartians.

      Don't try to tell me about southern women. I have enough of them in my family on both sides, my ex's and my own.

      White women in the south are emotionally, socially, educationally, spiritually and financially too dependent on men.

      Your response was expected. Mainly because some in the south are unwilling to admit they caused the deaths of 900,000 poor farm boys by trying to make those Big Daddies of Big Money rich.

      I live less than 5 minutes in any direction from reminders of the Founding of this country.

      And as for more dishonor, why did your southerners allow those trigger happy Home boys to go around killing any rebels who went AWOL? No need to deny, my ex's grandmother lost a brother to one of them.

      What I find even more dishonorable is an attitude that it is perfectly okay to allow relics of the south like the KKK to call themselves White Nationalists, march in the streets armed like Rambo and then mow down an innocent woman. That's honor to you?

      You man dependent women in the south need to face the reality that today's women do not need any man. Check your own history with facts, not conjecture you use to compare your slave history to anything up north where YOUR country was Founded.

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      Doris James MizBejabbers 

      2 years ago from Beautiful South

      You present only one side of the story, so those who are ignorant of the real history of this country will tell you what a wonderful article you've written. I ask:

      Where is the honor when the Emancipation Proclamation freed only the slaves in the Southern states, leaving slavery legal in Missouri, Kentucky, Delaware, and Maryland? It took the 14th Amendment by Congress to free the slaves in the North. President Lincoln didn't give a damn about them.

      Where is the honor when thousands of white slaves labored in northern states for their factory slave masters. They had the freedom to leave, you say. Yes they had the freedom to starve and be put out on the streets and freeze and starve to death. Laboring 12 hours a day, seven days a week, even as children as young as 7 and 8 died of lung diseases in those factories. Where is the honor?

      Where is the honor in the genocide of the natives who were here first so the white Europeans could worship their Jehovah God and rid themselves of the serfdom of their European masters, only to become the masters of slaves, both black and white, north and south?

      Where is the honor in a north that continues to hate the south and drives borderline crazy men into taking up a flag in what they see as self defense of 200-year-old hatred after a war is over?

      If the north would stop its antagonism toward the south, they would find that most southerners, both black and white, are very warm, loving people who are attempting to get along with each other. When they stop trying to rewrite history and try to get along with civilized southerners there may be honor.

      When they start ignoring the throwbacks, both North and South, to Hitlerism and don't give them the attention they seek, there is honor in that. These crazies will fade into the sunset without further attention. Up north they go by various names. They call themselves such high-sounding names as The Order or Silent Brotherhood (Washington State), Christian Identity (founders were from Massachusetts and New Jersey, but then they moved the organization to Idaho where it later became Aryan Nation), 11th Hour Remanent Messengers (Idaho), Identity Evropa (California). There are others, the southern KKK is only a drop in the bucket.

      Matthew 7:5 KJ says: Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then thou shalt see clearly to cast the moat out of thy brother's eye."

      Maybe then you won't ask "where is the honor?" This is America. There is no honor.

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      Val Karas 

      2 years ago from Canada

      Eleanore --- Those with honor will know exactly what you mean -- and those without it will find a way to twist your words around to quiet down their conscience, if they happen to have one. They probably won't even read it.

      It's always like that.

      Like, those from one political camp will not bother reading what is being reported by those who favor the opposition party. They need "inspiration" to make even stronger their existing convictions, not something that may potentially compromise their stability.

      There are beliefs that grow into fanaticism, and there is absolutely nothing that you can say to such people to change their fixed beliefs.

      It's a nice and insightful article you wrote.

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