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Atheist, Agnostics, Satanist, and Wiccans: What it would take for this Christian to Not Believe in God.

Updated on August 15, 2012
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I answer a question proposed by many atheists

If you are reading this Hub thinking I am going to bash Christians, agnostics, or atheist, you are reading the wrong article. I am going to answer the question about belief, and try not to seem like a self-righteous jackass. Furthermore, if you are easily offended, one should not read this article. I would stop believing in God if any of the following happened:

1. Aliens would have to come to earth and provide undeniable proof that they changed the DNA in monkeys to create us.

2. I would have to be dead for at least a few minutes, and I would have to remember nothing when revived.

3. That every mystery or prophesy in the bible could be disproven. This includes the destruction and the creation of Israel (I already know about the coincidence argument, so, please, do not bring it up). I have done my research, and I do not wish to start a debate on this issue (pick another topic, and I might play with you).

4. Bigfoot turns out to be real. I would really have to wonder why God decided to leave him in the evolutionary past.

5.Okay, now I am going to bend the question a little. Jesus Christ turns out not to be the Savior and Jason Bieber is the messiah. I would no longer believe in the God of the bible, and I would put a rubber glove on my head and tell everyone I am an octopus (life would have no meaning).

6. God turns out to be the Angry God of the Old Testament. I would no longer believe in the God of the bible, but it would not matter anyway because I would be human barbecue.

7. God turns out to be evil. I in no way agree with this argument, but I can understand where someone could conceive such an idea (Time Magazine wrote an article about it).

8. God turns out to be just one of us. If various takes on religion are right and we can become Gods, I would stop believing. I would, and so would you, make a terrible God.

9. Vampires turn out to exist and they sparkle in the sun. The universe would be too absurd to believe in any God.

10. The Mayan's would be right about the 2012 apocalypse. In that case, we all lose.

11. I would no longer believe in the God of the bible if people who committed suicide really did burn in hell (they go from one hell to another?). At one time in my life, I felt like I was a mouse in a blender. The blades would keep cutting and all I wanted was out. It really did seem like hell to me.

In closing, I hope you had a snicker or chuckle or two while reading this article.


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      artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

      I am an atheist because I have no evidence that any God exists or is necessary. I would be a Christian if it was shown that any part of the miracles were true, that Jesus was an actual person and that he performed miracles, and if God were proven to exist or was even possible and necessary to the existence and functioning of the Universe. I would believe in a God if such a being were proven to be possible and necessary. (I realize that is a repeat of what I just said)

      I would believe in the supernatural if you could give me evidence for such a thing that I could not prove was something natural and everyday that has nothing to do with the supernatural (Ghosts, UFOs, Bigfoot, Vampires, Werewolves, Demons, Angels, etc).

      So far any explanation of events with the supernatural is an argument from ignorance, you either didn't take the time to research the reasons for it because you are lazy or you are a willfully ignorant apologist.

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      Dan Barfield 4 years ago from Gloucestershire, England, UK

      Thank you for your kind words MizBejabbers! I may take your advice! I'm glad my words brought some enjoyment:)

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      MizBejabbers 4 years ago

      Dan Barfield, I enjoyed your comment to no end. You should make it into a hub!

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      Dan Barfield 4 years ago from Gloucestershire, England, UK

      Though I do believe in God - I have to say your number one point shows you share a very common misconception that most people who havn't been taught properly about evolutionary theory have. Evolution is not something that occurs to individuals it is merely a description of the gradual change of an entire species over many generations. I won't bore you with an argument on it though - I understand if this does not interest you. If it does - say so and I'll send you some links to excellent explanations written by better minds than mine :)

      Besides this point, Evolutionary theory does not preclude the idea of God - it just doesn't agree that genesis is anything more than a metaphorical description of creation. It makes sense that that would be the case really. Genesis was the explanation God gave to pre-science man - you think man would have understood if God had started firing off complicated descriptions of genetic processes back then? I think that would have caused more confusion than not.

      Point 2 is a good one - no probs there. Personal experience is always the liptmus test for me too.

      Point 3 is a bit too convenient - none of the events can be proven or disproven as all there is are witness accounts which are over a couple of thousand years old. Impossible to verify. The prophecies? These unfortunately are couched in vague terms and so that leaves them open to interpretation which is always the danger with prophecy.

      Point 4 - Amusing - but I'm not sure why Bigfoot would necessarily lead one to stop being a Christian. I'm sure their existence wouldn't have all that much bearing on the validity of scripture or the teachings of Christ.

      Point 5 - I'm totally with you on that! If Justin Beiber turned out to be the Messiah I would pretty much give up right there!

      Point 6 - If God turned out to be the vengeful petty git who stomps around in the old testament like a petulant child... then I'll walk through the gates of Hell by my own choice. I'd join The Morningstar's ranks and sign my name on the dotted line. That kind of God deserves no respect let alone devotion.

      Point 7.... see point 6.

      8. Well... technically God was one of us for 33 years according to Christianity... and then we nailed him to a tree. Damn.

      9. Since classically Vampires are the walking damned and number among Satan's servants of chaos on earth I would be inclined to use this as a reason to believe God does exist. Of course... a God who allows such things is highly suspect and suddenly we are back at number 6.

      10. Fortunately this is now a moot point... Happy 2013 everyone!!!

      11. Like number 6 and 7 this isn't so much a reason to believe He doesn't exist but that He isn't worth our adoration or worship. I agree entirely.

      This was a great hub - thanks for getting my brain working. It needed a bit of amusement and stimulation. Peace :)

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      Smile ^_^ 4 years ago

      Well I got bad news for you!!!

      Vampire do exist but they don't sparkle.

      They don't like sunlight or the idea of going out in the sun but about them burning in sun rays I'm not too sure if it's true.

      I'm a full-fledged Christian & I believe in God and Jesus Christ is our savior.

      But there are a lot of things that are unseen by the naked eye.

      Well, more like unknown to lot of people just like Christ only a few knows him...

      PS. If you're thinking that I'm a vampire, I'm not... -_- But I agree with them I don't particularly like sun... -_-

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      pmorries 4 years ago from Golden, CO

      Rodric29, I would make a terrible god, and I thank you for reading my hub.

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      Rodric Johnson 4 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      pmoorris, funny, but just because you stop believing doesn't makes him go away. We can become Gods. That is the entire promise of Christianity. Jesus Said that we will become joint heirs with him and that the father will share all that he has, power, glory and honor with those who accept Jesus forever.

      What is that supposed to mean if not becoming a God?

      Anyway, good hub voted up.

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      MizBejabbers 4 years ago

      Yep, you are funny. I snickered at some of your comments. I don’t think we should be constantly trying to debunk anyone’s religion, but I don’t want them shoving it in my faith under the guise of “go ye into all the world, teaching all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Holy Ghost”, either. Presenting views is OK, as long as the teacher allows the prospect to walk away. I think that is where many people, including some Christians, find some brands of Christianity objectionable. And I think that is what the Christian-atheist tempest-in-a-teapot is all about. Many years ago I had a Jewish friend. He already knew everything he wanted to know about Christianity (through his ex-wife), so we spent hours discussing his religion. Never once did he try to convert me. That is the way I think it should be. You sound like an understanding person. Thanks for the humor.

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      Wesley Meacham 5 years ago from Wuhan, China

      From an agnostic point of view... even if all of these things happened that still would not disprove the existence of a god. An evil god is still a god. A god who allows for sparkly vampires may be a bit "fabulous" but would still be a god. Even Aliens giving us undeniable proof could still be adequately denied. As Agent Molder is often quoted; "all the evidence to the contrary is not entirely dissuasive."

      The only other thing that I think you should know about is that the 2012 thing has been completely debunked by new discoveries. Archaeologist have recently found a Mayan mural painting with astrological data that extends another 7000 years into the future. So that one you can go ahead and scratch off your lists.

      And Justin Beiber I would sooner believe was the Anti-Christ...

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      Sooner28 5 years ago

      The Cowboys will not beat my Sooners this year!

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      Theresa Ast 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      pm - great answers and comments. I really don't snicker...not exactly sure why, I don't really giggle either. I was the oldest child of two oldest children parents (one of whom survived the Nazis and the communists to immigrate to America), so I was a fairly serious, focused, determined young person.

      But its not like we never laughed. In fact we were pretty funny, sometimes uproariously so. We burst out laughing, we occasionally chuckled or smiled, but I think my limitations are family patterns. :)

      I love the story about the professor...and things are becoming clearer to me - this may be a matter of different definitions of the words in our individual lexicons (words and history are my favorite things - she said with a very broad smile).

      I could see myself saying something like that to my students, and I would probably have called it amusing and clever sarcasm.

      I am firmly convinced there is a place for appropriate "sarcasm" in the college classroom. Not everyone agrees with me, but my classes always fill up - word of mouth - so I am not too worried about it. :)

      BTW, you are now one of my favorite hubbers and I quote, "like the fantastic Hubs you write." :) Keep writing what you already write and throw in an occasional "substantial" topic. Hope you have a great week. :)

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      pmorries 5 years ago from Golden, CO

      There is not enough space for me to write a reply here, but I wrote my reply under the comments section of this hub. In closing, I apologize that I am so long winded.

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      pmorries 5 years ago from Golden, CO

      Sooner28, your arguments are sound, and I now have egg on my face. This hub was indeed a serious commentary when it was first written; however, I soon realized that it would only create strife, so made it more palatable for mass consumption. In actuality, only one prophecy would have to be disproven (in any religion), and I have researched other religions when I was an agnostic. In closing, I try not to write disagreeable things about any religion. In closing, I appreciate your kind words, and I curse you sir…go OSU Cowboys!

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      pmorries 5 years ago from Golden, CO

      Thank you for the kind words.

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      pmorries 5 years ago from Golden, CO

      Phdast7, are you telling me that you have never snickered at what a student athlete (or any other student) has said in your classroom (you might not want to answer that)? I once had a professor say that one of her students, an apparently smart, charismatic, and handsome one, had said there should be an “ethics” lab at the university. She said that she saw all the young women in her class shake their heads in the affirmative, quite vigorously, and she thought to herself “Oh sh**, that is what life is for.” She went on to explain that the university did have an ethics lab, one that everyone attends, and it is called life. Would what she said be counted as a snicker? In closing, thank you for your comments, and I really should write something more substantial soon (like the fantastic hubs you write).

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      Sooner28 5 years ago

      There were some funny points! Bieber as the Messiah. That would doom us all!

      The point I want to focus on is this:

      "3. That every mystery or prophesy in the bible could be disproven. This includes the destruction and the creation of Israel (I already know about the coincidence argument, so, please, do not bring it up). I have done my research, and I do not wish to start a debate on this issue (pick another topic, and I might play with you)."

      This sounds like it's intended to be serious. I'm also not going to use the "coincidence argument" or the historical conditions influence when it was written argument, or the extrapolate meaning to the present day where there is none argument. I'm arguing something else. Why would you make such a broad claim? EVERY "prophecy and mystery" in the Bible would have to be disproven? That's an argument from ignorance. We can't prove it's false, therefore it's true.

      Or, if I am misunderstanding you, then you are being inconsistent with regards to other religions. Do you believe that EVERY "prophecy and mystery" of Islam, Judaism, Mormonism, and all other religions would have to be completely disproven before you would say they were false? If you say no, then you are being inconsistent and giving your own religion a special status. If you say yes, you most likely have a lot more studying to determine whether all of their "prophecies and mysteries" have been disproven. If you have done an exhaustive analysis of ALL religions in the world, then definitely write a hub about it so we can all see how wrong they are.

      You also tied in belief in God with Christianity, which in no way follows. God can exist with every teaching of Christianity being false. There weren't a lot of SPECIFIC arguments against God that would possibly change your mind.

      I still voted this up :P.

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      IAmForbidden 5 years ago from Neverland - where children never grow up.

      LOL.. I must say, I really enjoy reading your hub!

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      Theresa Ast 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Hi- pmorries - I both chuckled and smiled (I don't usually snicker - that is what irritating and silly student-athletes do in the back of my room - I am chuckling now). This was both fun and intriguing. :)

      SHARING

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      Sean Bradbury 5 years ago from Tempe, A.Z.

      haha!

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      Peeples 5 years ago from South Carolina

      Enjoyed this very much!