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Real Astrology: Is Future Prediction Actually Possible?

Updated on October 17, 2017

Real Astrology May Have Saved My Life

Is the future knowable? Is there an actual basis for astrological prognostications, or are they merely self-fulfilling prophecies? If you think "sun signs" are all there is to it, think again! Real astrology is different from the brand of predictive astrology which you are most likely familiar with; the "sun sign astrology" you find in newspapers. With real astrology, birthtime is of major importance as it sets the Ascendant and the Midheaven of the chart, two highly sensitive points, as well as the Houses. With an accurate birth time, predictive astrology--real astrology--truly can accurately foretell future trends, if not always specific events. The events described here happened exactly as I've described them; nothing has been embellished. If this lens piques your interest, do check out Astrodienst, based in Zurich, Switzerland, where you can see a variety of computer-generated free astrological charts.

I'm not a trained astrologer. I'm a freelance cartoonist..and only a real astrology "buff." I was a skeptic when, in 1983, I chanced to hear Bob Newhart on the Johnny Carson show remark that "there's more to real astrology than most people realize." He may have mentioned that his wife consulted with astrologers. In any event, he said he was a Virgo and that caught my ear. Everyone, even a skeptic, knows his "birth sign,." Mine happens also to be Virgo.

I didn't think of it again til a few days later when I was in a supermarket checkout line and happened to see a rackful of those astrology booklets. There I was! Hahaha. Virgo! As I waited for the line to move, I flipped through the pages. Hmmm. "Virgos are the critics of the Zodiac. Analytical, sometimes to the point of obsession exhibiting a tendency toward perfectionism which can drive those close to them mad." Lucky guess! Fussy. A worrier. The line was shortening and I was about to put the booklet back on the rack. An interest in diet and health. "You can sometimes tell a Virgo by the assortment of vitamins and elixirs on his kitchen counter." (I am paraphrasing here as I no longer have that booklet. More about that later.) Okay, a buck twenty-five isn't going to kill me!

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Taking A Closer Look At Real Astrology

Ten Planets?

Ten Planets? When I got home, I spent a little more time perusing the booklet. Some of it seemed to describe me, but most of it either did not, or was so general it could have applied to almost anyone. Inside the back cover was an ad. "Your Sun is in Virgo. But it's only one of ten planets in your chart." Planets? Ten planets? What are they talking about? For only 25 bucks I could get a more fleshed out computerized report with all ten planets (Earth doesn't count, but the Sun and the Moon do, as does Pluto...despite the recent pronouncements of the astronomer community), including the meaning of the location of each one within the signs and houses, as well as the meanings of the apparent angles they make to one another when viewed from the Earth (the "Aspects"). I was supposed to give not only my date of birth, but the exact time of day and the place of my birth, as well. My mother had told me I was born "a little before 9 AM," so that's the time I gave.

Future Prediction and Real Astrology

The Astrological Chart Arrives

Two weeks later, my package arrived. My heart raced as I ripped open the envelope. It was about 15 double-spaced pages, if that. It said that the Moon in my Eighth House squaring Pluto in my Eleventh House meant that I would likely experience deep emotions and be subject to bouts of jealousy and outbursts of temper due to offended vanity. I couldn't deny that. It contributed mightily to my divorce a few years earlier. It said (as did that little booklet from the supermarket) that I would have in interest in health related matters, optimizing health through diet and exercise, and that I would have a particular interest in, and be healed by, unusual medical therapies. I had been extremely interested in acupuncture since 1972 and successfully underwent treatment in 1975...long before it became commonplace in this country, and I'd also developed a continuing interest in homeopathy in 1978. It said I may very well belong to "an exclusive group of intellectuals." Five years earlier I had joined Mensa. It said some other very nice things about me, too. I'd accept the part about the temper and jealousy if the rest of the report was like this. But what I read next made me break out in a cold sweat.

But Can Real Astrology Really Predict Future Events?

And Do I Really Want To Know The Future?

Suddenly, here was more about that Moon/Pluto connection. The Moon, as mentioned, was in my Eighth House. The Eight House is traditionally associated with deep emotions, sex, ESP, birth, and Death. The position of the Moon in my Eighth House, according to the report, signified that "your Death may be the subject of pubic discussion." I hadn't counted on finding something like this in my $25 report and it set my mind reeling. For a while, I couldn't even continue reading. I took another peek. "A public death" it reiterated. I read on til I came to another disturbing entry which dovetailed with the position of the Moon in the 8th. I had Mars (energetic, explosive Mars) in my 9th House (the house of travel) conjuncting powerful Uranus (sudden, unexpected things).

According to the report, this was a strong indication of a tendency to experience "surprising incidents while traveling." Accidents! Two powerful indications; one suggesting accidents while traveling, and another indicating a "public death." I lay there doing a quick inventory of my life to that point. When I was in Korea 18 years earlier pulling a 24-hour stint as "duty driver," I had come within a hair's breadth of broadsiding a bus in my open Jeep going about 45 MPH. But I missed. Not a scratch. In New Mexico two years later, I almost drove off a cliff in the Sandia Mountains north of Albuquerque. But I didn't. In 1968, a stranger was giving me a lift from a gas station back to my car which had stalled by the side of the road during an ice storm. As we got within a hundred feet, it became apparent that he would not be able to stop. And didn't. He totaled my car. But I was uninjured, despite riding "shotgun" without a seatbelt. However, about ten years before that report arrived, back in 1972 as I was stopped, waiting to make a lefthand turn, I was struck from behind by a kid who admitted he had never even touched his brakes. He said he'd been going 35 miles an hour. The impact spun my car around , across the white line. I was lucky I wasn't struck by oncoming traffic. Since I had no cuts or bruises, I never sought medical help. But this was in the days before headrests were standard equipment. Beginning a few weeks later, I began experiencing excruciating headaches, dizziness, anxiety and extreme sensitivity to noise of any kind, all of.which lasted for approximately three years; until I was cured by that acupuncturist ("unconventional medical therapies") in 1975. But the story doesn't end here.

Uranus: Oddball of The Solar System

The Eccentric Planet, The Planet Of The Unexpected, The Planet Of Sudden Events

Uranus is also associated with inventiveness, originality, humanitarianism and the study of...real astrology.

William Herschel is credited with discovering Uranus in 1781 while systematically charting the skies with his telescope, although it had actually been seen decades earlier. Formerly, it had been thought to be a star rather than a planet.

Most planets spin on an axis which is perpendicular to the ecliptic, or the path of their orbit. In other words, they appear to be "upright" as they orbit the Sun. Long before telescopes were powerful enough to see Uranus as anything more than a point of light in the sky, astrologers had Uranus pegged as an oddball.

Unlike the other planets, the axis of Uranus is parallel to the eclipic. It is orbiting the Sun "lying on it's side!"

Copyrightfree photo of Uranus shown here is made available courtesy of ESA/Hubble.

Birth Time Is Critical For Accuracy

Optimism Returns...

...for a time. I was aware (from reading the report) that birth time was critical if the house cusps were to be properly placed. A few minutes difference might just move the Moon out of that damned 8th (Death) House! I began to think that maybe my birth time had been misreported. Maybe my mother was too groggy (I was delivered by Ceasarian section) to really know what time it was. I decided to send away to Lansing for my official birth certificate. It arrived two weeks later. Yessss! I had been born at 10:00 AM, according to my official birth certificate; not 9 AM! I happily filled out a new form to send to the astrocomputer people. But when the corrected report arrived, nothing had changed! Well, some things had. But that damned Moon; it was still stuck in my damned 8th House!

"The New Compleat Astrologer"

By Derek and Julia Parker

"The New Compleat Astrologer." It's a book by an English astrologer couple, Derek and Julia Parker, and that's the way they spelled the title with that "olde English" spelling. As luck would have it, within a month of having received that computerized report, the Parkers were guests on Lou Gordon's local talk show promoting their book. Despite that bothersome 8th House, I was hooked on real astrology; one of the most amazing things I'd ever come across. The next day, I bought the book. There were instructions on constructing a chart along with an ephemeris (a compilation of planetary postions on every day over a period of time). The ephemeris in the back of the Parkers' book rounded off only to the nearest degree, but that was close enough to allow me (following their instructions) to construct my astrological chart. Today, although I know more about astrology than I did then, I would not be able to construct one by hand as I have relied on my computer to construct charts for many years.

Real Astrology Can Become An Obsession If You Let It

Cleaning House

About the same time that very first astrology report had arrived, I had begun making some headway with my freelance cartooning. And by 1985, checks, nice fat ones for a freelancer, were coming in, sometimes right in the envelope along with the rejects. This jibed nicely with my chart. But even as I was beginning to enjoy some real success, I was becoming more obsessed with the astrology. I would head to my drawing board around 9 AM, but by 10 AM, something astrological would occur to me. I'd get my books out (by now, I probably had 7 or 8 of them, although in fact I had barely scratched the surface of the subject) and begin poring over them. Next thing I'd know, it would be 7:00 in the evening. After a couple of months of this, my checks had stopped rolling in. And for good reason; I had stopped writing gags and drawing cartoons!

By the end of Summer, I knew something had to give. I gathered up all my astrology books and threw them into the trash. Good riddance!

Computerized Astrological Readings From Astrodient

The Cadillac Of Online Astrological Sites

Zurich-based Astrodienst offers a variety of FREE astrological charts. But they also offer some of the very best paid services. In between those free charts and those paid services are lots and lots of extremely interesting articles and links.

My first introduction to real astrology was through a computerized personality profile based on the writings of the amazing Robert Hand. Hand is an American astrologer, author, translator, and lecturer. He received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Brandeis University, did further studies at Princeton University and is currently working toward a PhD in Medieval History at Catholic University of America. You can order your own personal computerized reading based on Hands research from Astrodienst.

Real Astrology Gets A Second Chance

It's Just Such An Interesting Subject!

I'd forgotten that when I'd first become interested in the subject, I had left a book at my sister's house; Rob Hand's excellent "Planets In Transit." When I mentioned that I had thrown my books away, my nephew reminded me that I had one left. I took it home. And gradually, over the next year, I rebought many of the ones I'd tossed out, and added new ones to my collection.. In the ensuing months, I learned that the very worst usually does not come to pass. If a transit indicates the possibility of "health problems having to do with the lungs" for a given period, for instance, it does not necessarily mean that you will be stricken with lung cancer. It may mean a bout of bronchitis. A predicted "unpleasant surprise" might turn out to be your car not starting. It doesn't have to mean getting hit on the head by a falling meteor.

It's Been 22 Year Since I Retrieved Those Real Astrology Books

Did I Drive Myself Mad? Am I still In One Piece?

Around 1988, I looked at the major transits and progressions which would affect my chart over the next few years and remarked to friends and family that I wasn't sure I was going to make it through the next decade.. I said it looked like a minefield. That was in early 1988. In May of that year, I was broadsided by a Saab while riding my bike and flipped over the hood onto the pavement. A witness said he thought I was dead when I hit the pavement. I escaped with a "strawberry" on my elbow.

In 1991, my little Omni was run off I-75, ending up upside-down in the median. In the early '90's, while stopped in the left turn lane waiting to turn, a women who thought she was stepping on her brakes, instead floored the accelerator, flying out of a mall parking lot and broadsiding my car, powerfully enough to slam my car into the car to my right. In 1995, a young woman who failed to see me coming darted out of a side street, broad siding my car, sending me spinning across the while line where I ended up facing in the opposite direction on the other side of the road.

In fact, in the years since I first had the devil scared out of me by that computerized chart, I have been involved in perhaps 20 accidents. In none of them was I at fault.

In most, I was stopped, minding my own business.

Since November, 2006, I have been rearended four times, one of which accidents totaled my car. In one instance, I was the middle car in a five car collision. We were all stopped as the front car was waiting to enter a gas station. Was that my last accident? Ask me again in a year. Heck, ask me tomorrow!

The Verdict

A Blessing Or A Curse?

Has the glimpse into the future made my life a living hell? Or have I benefitted from my interest in real astrology? Well, I began wearing my seatbelt immediately after perusing that first computerized report, 17 years before a state law was enacted to require them. I wear it religiously. Had I not been wearing my belt in 1991, my neck would've been broken in that highspeed rollover on 1-75. As it was, I was able to unbuckle my seatbelt, drop safely to the roof of my overturned vehicle, roll down my window, crawl from my car and stand to receive the cheers, or more accurately the honking horns and upraised thumbs, of all the drivers who had seen what had happened and had come to a halt for as far as the eye could see in both directions. Without that seatbelt, here certainly would've been the fulfillment of that "public death" forecast in my $25 chart eight years earlier!

Okay, Now That You've Read About My Experience... - Has Your Mind Been Changed?

Has your opinion changed at all?

After having read about my personal experience with real astrology, what's your opinion of the subject?

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Video Interview With Historian Richard Tarnas - Interview By National Council for Geocosmic Research

This interesting interview with Harvard-eductated author/historian Dr. Richard Tarnas was conducted by Charles McClelland and Kelly Lee Phipps of the National Council for Geocosmic Research. In this interview, Dr. Tarnas expands on the effect on world events of the major outer planet conjunctions and oppositions. Please see also the CBC radio interview above.

Debate Real Astrology Here - What's Your Opinion of Real Astrology?

Is future prediction possible through observation of the heavens? Does a real astrology chart help to explain an individual's talents and possibilities and accurately foretell future trends in one's life? (Spammers, please note. comments are moderated.)

What's your opinion of Astrology?

Leonard Nimoy Hosts "Astrology - Secret In The Stars" - From A and E Network's "Ancient Mysteries" Series

Leonard Nimoy takes a look at astrological prediction on "Astrology - Secret In The Stars" from the A & E Network's series, "Ancient Mysteries." Interesting and entertaining.

It's strange weird stuff, I know. But when you experience real astrology, firsthand, you may need to rethink what's real and what's not. In every major advanced ancient civilization, from Babylon to Egypt, to China to India to Greece to Rome, and to Central and South America, the ancients understood that everything and everyone was a part of the giant clockwork we call The Universe. The astrological systems developed independently from culture to culture, but each noted and recorded the positions of particular planets and their angular relationships to one another when certain types of events on earth transpired. It is my personal belief that mathematics and geometry and writing developed as a direct result of the ancients' quest to measure and record the movements of the planets. It is also my personal belief that sacrifices, animal and human, were done not simply to satisfy some mythical god, but in an attempt to control the violent and destructive energies brought about when certain planets made "hard" angles to each other (the 90 degree Square and the 180 degree Opposition). Would it scare you to glimpse the future? Let me know what YOU think.

Strange Weird Stuff - Is Astrology Nothing But A Bunch Of Bunk?

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      Thomas F. Wuthrich 3 years ago from Michigan

      Thank you for your comment buddhaanalysis. Is Moon Astrology part of Jyotish? Does that involve Nakshatras? I don't know much about Vedic astrology. Thanks again!

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      buddhaanalysis 3 years ago

      Ya! I have studied Moon Astrology and it is accurate.

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      Girlwiththorns 4 years ago

      Great lens :)

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      shashikantdabral 5 years ago

      very informative and interesting lens.

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      TheDeeperWell 5 years ago

      I love the work of Dane Rudhyar on transpersonal astrology, and especially his book on the Sabian Symbols. I encourage anyone interested in astrology to check out all of his books.

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      AJ 5 years ago from Australia

      Such an interesting and informative lens - it deserves to be blessed!

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      EMangl 6 years ago

      most people like to have something where they can believe in, i for myself believe in astrology as much as in the easter bunny and tooth fairy

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      Very comprehensively done. Nice to know that you came unscathed out of your accident. Best wishes. :)

      PS: I do believe astrology works, if done in a professional way!

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      Thomas F. Wuthrich 6 years ago from Michigan

      @UKGhostwriter: I enjoyed your "Ten Bizarre But Delicious Sandwiches" lens! Thanks for stopping by!

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      UKGhostwriter 6 years ago

      very interesting lens

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      WriterBuzz 7 years ago

      If you like coffee, check out my lens on Who Invented Coffee. I found your lens by accident, and it's really nice. I gave you a thumbs up. Look forward to more lenses from you. I also did one on Migraine Headaches that might interest you. If you surf on by, leave me a comment .

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      Thomas F. Wuthrich 7 years ago from Michigan

      @VarietyWriter2: Belated thanks for stopping by and especially for that Squid Blessing! Much appreciated!

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      Thomas F. Wuthrich 7 years ago from Michigan

      @KOrazem: Wow...I am very sorry to hear about your dad's experience with it...and I can sympathize.

      Fortunately, the very worst possibilities do not usually happen. And, as you can see from reading my lens, there are things that can be done to mitigate whatever influences might be on the horizon. Thank you for stopping by and taking the timje to leave a comment!

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      Seeking Pearls 7 years ago from Pueblo West

      Astrology is really an intricate science and has always fascinated me. My father used to be really into it and then had a real sad experience with a lady who committed suicide. He saw some bad things in her horoscope but was completely scared away from studying it anylonger. I think the complete charts are very interesting and insightful.

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      julieannbrady 7 years ago

      Ah, I am a believer in so many real things and things we cannot see, but only can imagine. It's been a while since my mom did an astrological interpretation for me. I've got my chart all mapped out ... just need to sit down and reanalyze it yet to bring me into this millennium!

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      VarietyWriter2 7 years ago

      Nicely done! Leaving Angel Blessings :)

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      VarietyWriter2 7 years ago

      Nicely done! Leaving Angel Blessings :)

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      anonymous 8 years ago

      I enjoyed reading your lens :) I think astrology doesn't really predict future events, it's more of a guide for the things that may possibly happen and it's one good guide which tells us to be careful all the time :)


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      anonymous 8 years ago

      I enjoyed reading your lens :) I think astrology doesn't really predict future events, it's more of a guide for the things that may possibly happen and it's one good guide which tells us to be careful all the time :)


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      easyforyouebooks 8 years ago

      Astrology is my favoured subject - I find it a fascinating subject. this is a good lens and I enjoyed reading it.

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      qlcoach 8 years ago

      Great writing. Well organized and presented lens. I enjoyed your topic too. Met you on Squidom. Hope you will visit my new lens about emotional healing. Gary Eby, author and therapist.

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      julieannbrady 8 years ago

      You know, I've actually got a chart someplace that was done for me a while ago. Not sure my mom did it or not as she was 'up' on those things.

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      Thomas F. Wuthrich 8 years ago from Michigan

      What I'm saying about my experiences, Stephen, is absolutely true. Whether or not you want to credit the movement of the planets with causing those experiences is separate matter.

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      Stephen Carr 8 years ago from Corona, CA

      I don't know if what you say is true, but what has intrigued me is how ancient people charted ships with the stars. Not astrology there, but the ancients knew the stars and thought there was something there. The ancients knew so much more than we will ever understand. There is no way they could have built the things they did 2,000 years ago with just the primitive tools we give them credit for. And the stars and astrology was studied. Good lens!

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      Bambi Watson 8 years ago

      Love astrology, I personally think numerology is a little more acurate for personality traits, but astrology is more acurate for divination :-)

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      Glory Miller 8 years ago from USA

      Great page here. Just stopping by to say hello and to thank you for your visit to my page, "The Farmer's Hands".

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      rockrat 8 years ago

      I won't be hitching a ride with you anytime soon, if that's okay! Great lens.

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      HaeGee 8 years ago

      Yay, Tom! This is one of the new ones, right?? Never imagined you're going to create something about astrology! Looks fabulous as usual!!

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      MikkiGVee 8 years ago

      Astrology has always intrigued me. It's unbelievable how much you can tell about a person by where and when they were born. Great lens. 5*.

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      Funtshirts 8 years ago

      Wow, great lens! 5 stars from me! Also, thanks for the zazzle list... I added a link to my Zodiac GIfts shop.