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Todd Helton vs Barry Larkin Hall of Famer

Updated on September 22, 2013

Todd Helton

The sweet swing of a player born to hit!
The sweet swing of a player born to hit! | Source

Todd Helton

A Colorado icon at first base for more than a decade.
A Colorado icon at first base for more than a decade. | Source

Barry Larkin

A swing good enough for the Hall of Fame.
A swing good enough for the Hall of Fame. | Source

Barry Larkin

Barry's 19 years with the Red's shows his loyalty and dedication to the game.
Barry's 19 years with the Red's shows his loyalty and dedication to the game. | Source

Hall of Fame

What does it take to get to the Hall of Fame in Baseball? Certainly Barry Larkin had a great career and put up some impressive numbers while playing arguable the hardest position on the diamond, but to reach the Hall of Fame one needs to reach some certain numbers, did he? In Barry Larkin Hall of Famer vs Todd Helton I will look into the Reds All Star Shortstops numbers compared to Todd Helton's and see if they match up.

If it was only about comparing stats Todd Helton surpasses Barry in every major offensive category easily and is still playing, while accomplishing these numbers in far less time.

Barry finished his 19 year playing career with 2,340 hits and a sub .300 batting average (.295), he didn't even reach 200 hundred homers or 1,000 RBI's and yet somehow made it into the Hall of Fame, Hmmm!

Todd Helton on the other hand has played 15 years in the Bigs' and currently sits at 2,363 hits, with 347 HR's and 1,308 RBI's while sporting a .323 Batting Average. He has a whopping 554 Doubles over 100 more than the speedy Larking that played four more years than he has.

Barry's great defense and good offensive numbers in 1995 helped to earn him a MVP trophy but when you look at his numbers that year they don't even come close to Todd's best year.

Barry finished the '95 season with a .319 average, 158 hits, 29 doubles, 6 triples, 15 Home Runs and 66 RBI's. He did not lead the league in ONE offensive category and played in only 131 games, get real!

On the other hand Todd in his best year, which was 2000, hit a blistering .372, with 216 hits, 59 doubles (more than twice as many as Larkin), 2 triples, 42 Home Runs almost three times as many as Larkin, with 147 RBI's. He also walked 103 times and only struck out 61 while playing in 29 more games.

He finished 5th in the MVP voting that year!

So based on the numbers Barry must have had an AWESOME year defensively and yet he committed 11 errors in a pathetic 544 chances for a measly .980 fielding percentage, what gives . . . maybe it was his charming personality!

Now granted Todd plays an easier position than Barry did but let's take a look at his defensive numbers while smoking the league in hitting. He had almost three times as many chances than Barry with 1,482 he committed only 7 errors and had a .995 fielding percentage, WOW!

Barry never lead the league in any offensive category his entire career and only lead the league in putouts twice as a shortstop and once with assists and none of those years were when he won the MVP, WOW!

Todd on the other hand has lead the league four times in offensive categories and EIGHT times in defensive categories and yet has never won a MVP while playing in 2054 games compare to Barry's 2,180.

Yes, Mr. Larking without a doubt played a harder position but HOF numbers they are not. He has a World Series ring and MVP trophy, although Dante Bichette clearly had the better season in '95.

So clearly Barry Larkin wasn't voted into the Hall of Fame based on outstanding offensive numbers, so his defensive must have been the catalyst to propel him to the H.O.F. His sportsmanship, loyalty and leadership were also other intangible factors that contributed to his enshrinement.


Todd Helton Hall of Famer?

Based on his numbers right now should Todd Helton be a Hall of Fame member?

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Hall of Fame

It seems certain that Todd Helton will be inducted into the Hall of Fame based on the comparison with Barry Larkin's numbers, however one never knows how the Coors Field factor will influence the voters decisions.

Take for instance how Larry Walker, a truly outstanding player in his own right, has fared in the H.O.F. voting and Todd's fate becomes less certain. Walker has better numbers than Larkin, played a decade in a Rockies uniform while hitting better than .350 four different seasons for the Rockies and yet didn't even receive one vote by Denver sports writers this year, truly pathetic.

Will the snub that Walker is receiving from not only his hometown voters but the Coors field stigma affect Helton's chances of becoming enshrined in the Hall of Fame, hard to say.

What I find most interesting is that a bunch of wannabe hacks (sportswriters) that probable aren't even the best players on their company coed softball teams actually have a say in who is enshrined in the Hall of Fame, arguable the greatest achievement of any baseball player.

Barry Larkin Hall of Famer vs Todd Helton may not be the best comparison to justify Todd's chances of reaching the Hall of Fame but I believe should provide enough of an argument to allow the often narrow minded voters a basis for his eventual enshrinement.


The Todd Father . . . update

On Friday the 13, of April 2012 Todd Helton hit a opposite way double in the bottom of the eighth for the game winning RBI against the Arizona Diamondbacks and then followed up his heroics on Saturday (the 14th) after a one hour and 11 minute rain delay with a monster walk-off two-run homer in the bottom of the ninth just inside the right field foul pole.

J.J. Putz the Arizona closer hadn't blown a save in 28 straight chances when Helton pulled an inside fastball, on a 1-1 count down the line for the game winner, his first homer of the year.

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    • somethgblue profile imageAUTHOR

      somethgblue 

      7 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      No I haven't but will look into it . . .

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      jenubouka 

      7 years ago

      Have you heard of the novel Blockade Billy by Stephen King? I am actually reading that right now. Hardback short story that plays on the loss of the game of professional baseball today, with Kings twist of course.

    • somethgblue profile imageAUTHOR

      somethgblue 

      7 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      I hear you, I'm a huge baseball fan and didn't even sign up for MLB.com this year, just going to play softball and forget about Bball for a while!

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      jenubouka 

      7 years ago

      I like your outlook on these players, I am finding it hard to trust the game these days. If I hear of one more guy getting his stats yanked I will lose it.

    • somethgblue profile imageAUTHOR

      somethgblue 

      7 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      Yes, Pete served his debt to society and yet is still not forgiven for his sins against baseball. Here is an organization that allowed steroids to be legal for many years while other sports had banned it and yet those that took this legal drug are now being punished for using it after the fact.

      Bud Selig is the one that should be in jail or at least punished for his hypocrisy, while Bonds, McGuire and Sosa were hitting all those HR's it was legal to do steroids.

      Not to mention Clemens which is an admitted steroids user and yet he will make the HOF while Bonds won't, that my friend is racism, period end of story!

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      Insane Mundane 

      7 years ago from Earth

      Yet, you got a player like Pete Rose who is the all-time Major League leader in hits (4,256), and isn't even in the Hall of Fame! Sounds like politics at hand...

    • somethgblue profile imageAUTHOR

      somethgblue 

      7 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

      I think Walker should definitely be in, he hit for average, power, ran the bases well, played the outfield well and had a strong arm. His numbers are far superior to Larkin's and he played 17 years.

      These are two players that never tested positive for steroids in an era rampant with its use and still put up big numbers. Regardless of Coors Field you still have to hit the ball.

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      theframjak 

      7 years ago from East Coast

      Nice Hub. I like Todd a lot, but I think he has a stigma that his best years were at Coors Field before the introduction of the humidor and that he played in an era of inflated hitting statistics in general. I think Larry Walker actually had some better years than Todd. Should he also go in the HOF?

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