Using HubPages for Shameless Self Promotion is WRONG

Self Promotion is Wrong

It has come to my attention that sometimes people use HubPages to promote themselves in disgusting, slimy, self-important ways. They do things like put links in their hubs that are intended to do nothing but drive traffic to their own websites or Facebook pages or other things. It is totally selfish, and doing that sort of thing represents a wanton disregard for propriety and the type of humility that Greek philosophers spoke of and that some of the guys in the Bible wrote about. It’s bad stuff.

For example, if I were to point out that I had recently created a Facebook page under my writing name Shadesbreath (http://facebook.com/Shadesbreath) and then made a big deal out of it by writing a hub pointing to it and making a conspicuous show of all the fun and hilarity that might be had by clicking “like” on such a page, that could only be construed as salacious, smarmy and grotesque. I would never do that. I mean, yes, I did just create that page, and yes it would be awesome if people all went and “liked” it and then played along with all my Shadesbreath reindeer games, but I would never do it. It would be embarrassing to do something like that. It would be like lowering myself to the level of the people who do that. The peasants. The serfs. The rascals, knaves and louts.

Do I seem like the loutish type?

Shadesbreath loutishness poll

Does Shadesbreath seem like the loutish type?

  • Do you even have to ask?
  • No, don't be absurd.
  • WTF is a "lout?"
See results without voting

Clearly not. (As will be proven by the poll to the right in time).

So I felt, having discovered this abominable behavior by some hubbers, that I should speak out on this issue. I felt that someone needed to comment on the degree of narcissism necessary to A) even make such a page, and B) then go about promoting it like some slattern waggling her plump buttocks at drunken sailors as they teeter down the gangplank after six months at sea. So I won’t do that. It would be wrong.

Shadesbreath the slattern ...

"Come here sailor!"  ... I THINK NOT.
"Come here sailor!" ... I THINK NOT.

Despite how nice it would be to shout to the world: "HEY GO LOOK AT MY PAGE AT: http://facebook.com/Shadesbreath AND MAKE SURE TO LIKE IT,” I would never stoop to that. Nor would I stoop to letting people know it has this really cute picture of a puppy and a kitten snuggling up together that has a funny comment as part of my experiment to see how many "likes" I can get. I wouldn't talk about the hot chick on there or the dreamy dude with awesome abs I put on their either. I just wouldn't mention that because I am not a slattern. And besides, I look terrible in a miniskirt so, frankly, if I tried to do the slattern thing, it wouldn’t work. I look horrible in plaid and half-shirts don't really work for my otherwise awesome physique. Can you say, “Short-bearded Santa in a Japanese schoolgirl uniform?”

You probably can say it, but would you want to?

Now, despite having made it perfectly clear how I feel about that sort of self-aggrandizing behavior, it is possible that some HubPages moderator or another might come along and see my examples as being exactly the sort of thing that I am arguing against. So, it is to those moderators that I first wave and say, “Hi,” and then point out that I am clearly not in support of that kind of overly promotional activity and am in fact, through my examples, helping make their jobs easier. And just to make sure everyone reading this is perfectly clear, I am in no way suggesting that anyone go to Facebook and search for the term Shadesbreath and then click LIKE on the hilariously funny images that come up as part of the clever mechanism I put there to get people to like my page. Anyone who reads this and goes to Facebook and searches for that term, or who clicks on the links that I provided above solely as an example of what not to do has almost missed the point entirely. That said, I simply want to make sure that any HubPages moderator tempted to do evil and cruel things to this helpful and totally pro-HubPages hub understands how totally NOT in any violation this hub actually is despite how in some ways it might be argued that it is a total violation of the most insidious and flagrant kind. I would also like to point out how amazing a job HubPages moderators do, how awesome they are as people and as lovers--I have only heard rumors, but wow, names like Apollo and Jenna Jameson come up as comparisons whenever anyone brings this topic up. So, thanks, moderators, for all you do.

So, that said, I feel I have done my duty in making sure people understand how uncouth and shameful self promotion is, and that I feel anyone attempting to divert traffic from Hubpages to another site like the really clever and actively enjoyable site I mentioned above that can be found by searching Shadesbreath on Facebook but that should not be searched based on this article because of how wrong it would be is, in fact, a knave, lout and all that other stuff I said before.

So there you have it.

Have a lovely day.

If Loving ME is wrong, I don't want to be right...

FURTHER examples of shameless self promotion...

So, in the name of condemning self-promotion even further, I would like to point out that pointing out that this is my new novel and that I would love for you to go watch the fantastic video book trailer and even consider buying a copy counts.
So, in the name of condemning self-promotion even further, I would like to point out that pointing out that this is my new novel and that I would love for you to go watch the fantastic video book trailer and even consider buying a copy counts. | Source

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spryte 5 years ago from Arizona, USA

Why do I get the feeling that I've missed something important? I really hate these 24 hour days. Between work, my farm and World of Warcraft (by the way CATACLYSM is freaking awesome! I just love this new goblin race)...how am I supposed to pay attention to pertinent topics like what is a current HP violation or not? But are you serious...or just yanking some chains?


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Eric Graudins 5 years ago from Australia

Shadesbreath.

I'm shocked and appalled that you - of all people - would do such a thing.

In one step, you've taken yourself down to the level of the poor misguided creature at

http://Facebook.com/TheInternetBloke

But YOU. Shadesbreath.

Quite frankly, you disappoint me.

I never thought that you would become so egocentric as to shamelessly promote yourself at http://facebook.com/shadesbreath

I had such high hopes for you when you wandered into Hubpages not so long ago, and I wiped the beer off your chin, changed your nappy, and pointed you in the right direction.

But I guess I was wrong about you after all.

You're just another lowlife, self promotional scumbag. Just like all the rest.

Broken hearted,

Eric G.


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shape_shifter 5 years ago from The Free Waters of Planet Earth

Great hub! This has been a rampant problem that I almost wrote about in my last hub, http://hubpages.com/holidays/Priced-to-Sell-The-10... but I decided not to. It seemed like a block of hubs pertaining to texting issues, like http://hubpages.com/technology/SMS-Language-and-Et... would be a great idea, and require little self promotion, unlike the hub, http://hubpages.com/politics/The-XM25--Revolutioni... which has gotten even lower of a score than it had when I posted it... Not because its a bad hub, but probably simply because the subject matter is out of favor with the PC crowd... It would be great if people clicked to rate it up, but I'd never dream of posting a comment asking them to do that... That would be extremely unethical! Almost as bad as driving while texting, which is a hub I would never post on a comment screen, but if I did, it would take up about this much space... http://hubpages.com/technology/almost-hm-cya-soonO...

You know, it is OK to circumvent this rule by posting this information on your profile page, but then, how often is that going to be seen? Not even half as much as my new novel, Critical Mass, that is also published here at hubpages, and linkable through the hub, http://hubpages.com/literature/Author-Introduction... , but we'll never get an accurate test, since this practice is frowned upon, slimey, and seriously uncool.

Good luck getting the link, http://facebook.com/Shadesbreath out there, maybe someone else can put it on all of their hubs if you put theirs on yours, also circumventing self-promotion... food for thought.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Spryte, I'm purposely avoiding that game. Since I've stopped playing WOW I've read about 50 novels, written 1 novel and several shorts, and spent several hundred hours playing card and board games with my wife and kids. It looks very cool, but I've decided it is Satan in bouncy-boobed Blood Elf clothing. :)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Eric, I heard that the http://Facebook.com/TheInternetBloke was the worst sort of self promoting bastard and should be avoided at all times for obvious and terrible reasons. A real scumbag like you accuse me of becoming, though I do protest loudly etc., and, uh, drink a beer and, well, then move on. :)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Shape-Shifter, I have to say, your post makes me actually wonder if "overly promotional" can actually apply to comments. LOL. I wonder if my hub will get jacked in ratings because of so many links lol. If it does, I will just laugh and watch it bomb. It will be yet further evidence of how much HP needs to work on making accomodations for humor and satire. HP is too big to pretend it doesn't have social obligations to modern iterations of literature, and quite regardless of the fact that you and I probably aren't writing any literature. But we are paving the way in case someone comes along. :D


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Cagsil 5 years ago from USA or America

Hey Shades, very nicely done. Definitely worth a laugh or two. :) I hope you enjoy your new page at Facebook. I cannot like it more than once, so you've already got my vote. :) Thank you for sharing. :)


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Jane Bovary 5 years ago from The Fatal Shore

Shadesbreath, you literary slut! haha...good luck with it all.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Thanks Cags. I really appreciate your help earlier in getting this clunky FB thing launched. :)

Jane, I have to tell you, your comment appeared in one of those "Spam - Not Spam" comment boxes that I had to click "not spam" on. So, I would just like to point out that when it comes to HubPages making assumptions on the "literary slut" status of its participants, it appears that you may need to do some damage control with the moderators more than me :). LOLOLOLOLOL. (seriously, it did show up like that lol. Thanks for reading and the good wishes :)


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Jane Bovary 5 years ago from The Fatal Shore

It did? Jeez...my name must be mud around here.I knew I shouldn't have sent out those 40,000 emails.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

LOL, see.


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Ivorwen 5 years ago from Hither and Yonder

This is too funny Shadesbreath. Thank you for demonstrating how horrible all of this mindless self promotions really is. Did you ever notice that the word demonstrate has the word demon in it? As if showing were a bad thing...


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Well, frankly ever since I learned that beer was invented by a demon as a way to make Nordic men fat, I have actually liked them, but, yes I hear what you are saying, Ivorwen. :)


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RedElf 5 years ago from Canada

Drat and blast - I just can't get the hang of this promotional stuff - I found you on FaceBook and then came here to read the hub! I'm sorry! I'll try to do better next time. By the way, did you friend me on FaceBook yet? :D


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earnestshub 5 years ago from Melbourne Australia

Naughty naughty hubbers! You should all be ashamed. I never self promote... unless I get a chance to do so.

http://hubpages.com/@earnestshub


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Christoph Reilly 5 years ago from St. Louis

With all the other sites I have or write for, like http://thecrustycurmudgeon.com/, I have been tempted to write a selfish self-promoting hub myself, but instead I referred myself to another article I wrote at http://www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/champers108 to remind me that it would be uncool. Or I could have done it for http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sfrm=1, or even some of those on-line newspapers I write for, such as http://chesterfield.patch.com/, http://clayton-richmondheights.patch.com/, or even http://kirkwood-webstergroves.patch.com/. Then there is the magazine where I am a staff writer, http://www.copiamagazine.com/ But you can guess how busy such a shameless self-promotion could be. Anyway, glad to see you're taking the high road!


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Autumn Lynn 5 years ago from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates

Ha ha-this whole hub+ comments has put a smile on my face-sorry to be so new to all this that I have nothing to add to the shameless self promotion! Very clever-voted up>


TattoGuy 5 years ago

Hes right but as you have now read his hub do pop over and read all of mine !


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SteveoMc 5 years ago from Pacific NorthWest

I guess I will have to share this on facebook warning all my friends about this insidious effort to circumvent the obvious TOS violations and mess with the sexy moderators. (Where is the hub on Jenna?) I keep searching and only come up with 119 hubs. None of them list her as a moderator! LOLZ Well done, I love starting my day with a chuckle.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K.

Gosh! I started reading it and thought to myself, "Eek! New Hubber, you've infringed some rule and about to be reprimanded",

Then I thought, "Pompous bugger, He seemed nice at first"

Then the penny dropped.

An hilariously funny hub. Loved it.


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Dawn71 5 years ago from UK

Brilliant! Your hub is clearly showing the errors of self promoting hubbers who should hang their heads in shame..love your honest ethics, what a trooper! Glad you repeated the wrong doing of it by your example many times..sometimes it's needed to ensure the point has not been missed..excellent upstanding work! ;)


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

Too funny SB. I "liked" your personal page, now I have to go "like" your shameless hussy harlot page too? In that case I command you to reciprocate! So it is written, so it shall be done...

http://hubpages.com/@austinstar


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Petra Vlah 5 years ago from Los Angeles

Now it all makes sense; I got an e-mail from Roy Choiniere suggesting that I "like Shadebreath on Face Book".

Since I don't know who Roy is and I never liked you much, I just ignored the invitation. I might be missing out on something really big, but I will take my chances


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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA.

Man I was laughing so hard that I could not see to read your hub for about twenty minutes. TEARS OF JOY flooded my eyes for I realized that here was a SUPER HERO among the rest of us low-life rubbers!

Praise be to THE GREAT PUNKIN and all the other cartoon gods Known to man for the gift of you insights!


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

RedElf: Is it possible to work Social Media connections in the wrong direction? Is there a clockwise in this sort of thing? lol. And I'll find you and friend you.

Earnestshubs, I'm glad you chose to take the lofty route and not self promote. Erm... yeah. :P

Wow, Christoph, and I thought I was a whore. I'm going to have to do a new drawing of you in a Japanese School Girl outfit. Or maybe that would not get it done for the degree to which you have stooped. Maybe a dominatrix outfit for you.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Autumn Lynn (what a melodic name, btw). Thank you for giggling your way through my shamelessness. Keep writing and soon you will have all sorts of stuff you can promote in the most degrading and karma defeating ways.

TattoGuy - Thanks for reading and chiming in with some of your own shamelessness. I feel less dirty with folks like you and Earnest and Reilly and Shape-shifter and Austinstar wallowing in the filth with me. :)

SteveoMC - I hope I do get moderated by Jenna Jameson. How cool would that be? ... Hmm, or maybe it wouldn't. Might be kind of gross, actually. I think I'm going to hose this whole hub down with Lysol now, just in case.

Twighlight Lawns... you've just experienced the cycle of revelations that my wife goes through every day. Poor thing, I'm not sure how it is that I haven't woken up with a knife in my eye or at the very least a pillow firmly pressed over my face, but she endures. It's the pennies, I just know it! Thanks for coming by.

Dawn71, thanks for your comment. I have to tell you, in all honesty, I'm surprised that word you typed, "ethics," hasn't burst into flames for having any contact with my hub here. I guess we're lucky so far. But I'm watching it. The words "ethics" on the same computer screen with this hub is like putting matter and anti-matter together.


Underwater Jones 5 years ago

Thanks Shades, the picture of you on the docks, while I am sure is accurate, made me throw up in my mouth. That image will be burned into my skull as much as the bile burns my throat.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Hi Austinstar. I most certainly shall do just that. I am surprised I hadn't long ago. Perhaps I am on crack. Again. I often am. It's weird because I don't even use the stuff, and yet constantly suffer the consequences. (sigh).

Petra Vlah: I'm glad you have learned the nature of the cabal. Roy is Cags and ... WAIT, WHAT? How could you not like me? I LOVE me. I am like my favorite person of all time. AND, since I am a VERY keen judge of character and have great, literarily-wrought (lol) perspicacity and a salesman's gift of sizing up folks, there can be no doubt of my general and all-consuming awesomeness. Therefore, you should totally like me a lot. That's my opinion on the matter. :)

Hi Highvoltagewriter, thank you for that fine and kind comment. I'll have you know I look almost as good in spandex super-costumes as I do in a mini skirt and half shirt. :)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Underwater Jones: lol & think... that is the story of my wife's life. :D Lucky girl.


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lorlie6 5 years ago from Bishop, Ca

A smarmier whore I've never known, Shades. Unfortunately, I chose to 'like' your page. Such smarmy photos. Ugh.

What on earth's next?


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Well, Lorlie, next will be insincere promises to clean up my act, be less of a smarmy whore and to do good deeds in the name of something meaningful other than myself.


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

I couldn't stop laughing!! I love the Shadesbreath ever since you told me that you like me using the bible to get back at the ones who only know how to quote scripture and that was like 2 years ago. This hub tops it all. In reality--and this is briging it all down Hubpages doesn't like us self promoting even if it is to just get hubs about things that just need exposure and GOD forbid you post one of your hublinks in a forum post!! That will get you banned--been there doen that! FB is a great place to self promote!! LOL LOL LOL!!


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Stan Fletcher 5 years ago from Nashville, TN

This one really resonated with me Shades. I too, like you, abhor self promotion. Take my Killer Ideas for Your Next Hub hub for example. (Notice how I didn't make that a link). That was all about the "little people" - those who are struggling and too dumb to figure out a topic on their own. The fact that it gained me hundreds of followers and thousands of reads was an unintended consequence. And one that I hated. I would never say anything about myself that could be misconstrued as self promotion. The fact that you yourself said that I'm hysterically funny (I think it was "stan, you're a heck of a lot funnier than me. I've decided to quit writing altogether after reading your stuff." - or something like that) means very little to me. See, not only am I against self promotion - I'm against any kind of promotion. I would prefer that my stuff just hung somewhere out in cyberspace, never read by anyone. You obviously feel the same way. Here's hoping that 2011 is a really lonely and unread year for both of us.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Hi Lady G. I remember that too. They were beating you down for a while, as I recall, but you bounced back nicely. I'm glad you found your way to my little narcissistic fun here. We'll see how Facebook goes. So far it seems pretty cool.

Stan Fletcher, my man. I'm with you on that, hoping for continued oblivion for my writing. I was actually thinking about writing to all the major literary agents and telling them to F-off just in case one of them considers picking me up. Same with the publishers, no need risking an accidental book deal. I want to really go unnoticed for sure come 2011. And I'll do what I can to undermine any success you might have as well.


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

My hubs seem to get very litle views too. Oh they will get lots for about a day or two and then the views almost totally vanish. It's been doing that for over a year now.

Shades, I have most of the religious community now telling EVERYONE not to read my hubs because I am taking people from Jesus. Go figure, I scare the begeebees out of them but I have never taken someone away from something that can't be given or taken. LOL A messed up bunch if you ask me...but who asks me. I just like to write. http://hubpages.com/profile/Lady+Guinevere


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Well, if you can take them from Jesus, then his people aren't doing a very good job of spreading His word are they? lol.


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

LOL LOL LOL Don't give them too much credit--you know they get big heads and they put themselves on that pedestal thinging they are soooo much better than anyone else. :P


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Eric Graudins 5 years ago from Australia

@Laqdy guinevere.

Yes. I really get annoyed at those people who think that they are better than anyone else.

Makes it very difficult for those of use who really are. :-)


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

SB and Stan are two of the funniest hub writers here! They are naturals. I, on the other hand have to work at it. That's why I charge more for my "funny" hubs. I'm glad we can still read theirs for free :-) But someday, well, we'll have to pay for words like "salacious, smarmy and grotesque"


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Lady G., I don't mind if they put themselves on a pedestal so long as they are hawt and prefer short skirts. :D

Eric, please don't wear a short skirt if you sit on a pedestal.

Austinstar, thanks. :) And don't worry about paying for them words. You can get them cheap. I buy them in bulk so I can throw them around at leisure. It helps that I don't know what any of them mean too, so I don't have to worry about context and stuff. I hear that really slows some writers down.


sandra rinck 5 years ago

I really cannot understand why I feel this "need" to do something but I am not sure what it is because the message was really confusing and I think I have been reading subliminal messages but I am not sure why I like Shadesbreath. It's the darnedest thing. Anyways, I gotta go, I have this urge...


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Paradise7 5 years ago from Upstate New York

I really had to laugh. Satire is your strong point. It worked for me: I hope it works for you. If you weren't such a good and funny writer it would have got me a bit PO'd...to do such a sly bit of the self-promotion you so adamantly abhor in such a tounge-in-cheek way!


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Petra Vlah 5 years ago from Los Angeles

Gotch'ya; not as bad as you got me with the the hub about Christoph Reilly, but nevertheless. If I miss-spelt Palin favorite word, sorry. By the way - I like you well enough, should you care to know:-)))


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Shinkicker 5 years ago from Scotland

I agree with you Shadesbreath that shameless self-promotion should be stamped out. For example, some people here have been putting their Hubpage links in the comments boxes.

Here's another example http://hubpages.com/@shinkicker indicating what I mean. It puts the temptation right there, that blue writing, that nice easy link. BUT yes! You are right people shouldn't do it and others shouldn't encourage them by clicking on the links. I hope I never stoop so low.

Great Hub


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wingedcentaur 5 years ago from That Great Primordial Smash UP of This and That Which Gave Rise To All Beings and All Things!

Let me say, sir, that I love your stuff. You are one of only five people I currently follow on HubPages. I know from your interactions on the forums and engagement with other people's hubs, that your humor comes from and depends upon your high intelligence -- though you are more than capable of swinging low, if I may put it that way.

I love the image of you in a mini-skirt and one of those "Daisy Duke" (Dukes of Hazard, remember that show?) shirts. This is because such people, who use HubPages in the way you outline here, are precisely prostituting themselves. No, its not like the actual prostitution service spam we sometimes see on the Q & A forum, but the same lack of dignity is involved.

In fact, such shameless self-promoters are treating the HubPages community like a big, collective potential "John."

Still, the Internet is a relatively new experience; and there is something about its nature that either causes some people to forget how to be civil human beings or acts as an electronic universal multiplier and extension device to share their inherent rudeness, bigotry, and loutishness.

Anyway, you did another really good job taking a straightforward subject and presenting it in a novel and entertaining (and educational) way. I voted this hub up for awesome and funny!

Take it easy.


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cindyvine 5 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine

I agree totally Shadesbreath, now if you go to Amazon and type in Cindy Vine you can find my books as paperbacks or kindle


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Sandra, I can't imagine what motivation it is you have or how, inexplicably, you find yourself driven to some action, compelled by a completely mysterious force. That's very odd. I can't fathom what you are talking about. :D

Paradise7, that's the fun of satire/being a statirist. Other's create the "genre" if you will, and then we get to poke fun at it by exposing and exploiting it. We get to have THEIR cake and eat it too. (If we do it right.) Thanks for the nice compliment, really. Satire is the most fun to write. I grew up on sarcasm (raising my kids on it too. Just imagine the joy of three sarcastic teenagers all in one place. lolol).

Haha, Petra Vlah!!! I read that and I was like, "Awww," and made a sad face. I thought, "How can she not like me? She's said nice things on my hubs before..." THen I started thinking about why that might be, like maybe I was too low brow and I went into a long spiral of self examination that ended in me drinking heavily and deciding somehow I would win you back! :) (As far as that Diphalic Terrata hub on Christoph, for all we know it IS true, so don't feel bad when we still have plausible doubt on our side).

Shinkicker, I am really glad to hear that you would never stoop so low as to include that link to your profile in any comments you might make. It's clear that you and I are on the same page on this issue. We are like two pure hearts and minds joined at the moral hip. Or something.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

LOL Wingedcentaur I do like to swing low from time to time. I think it's important. We must have range to enjoy life. I'll tell you though, your comment (as do your hubs) has inspired me, so I wrote myself a new theme song based on your "swing low" remark. Here it is, dedicated to you:

Swing Low

Swing low, sweet taxi cab

Comin’ for to carry me home;

Swing low, sweet taxi cab

Comin’ for to carry me home.

I looked over the crowd

And What did I see,

Comin’ for to throw me out?

A band of bouncers comin’ after me

Comin’ for to throw me out.

Swing low, sweet taxi cab

Comin’ for to carry me home;

Swing low, sweet taxi cab

Comin’ for to carry me home.

If you talk to my wife before I do,

Comin’ for to carry me home,

Tell her that I’m comin’ back,

Comin’ for to party at home.

:)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Cindyvine, you shameless self promoter!!!! (How are those books doing, btw?) Frankly, I am more than seriously considering self publishing (as this current effort is insidiously a part of). I might make a test run of lulu.com with a novella first just to try it out. I have a really strong one, really really strong, that might be a good test and I'd be willing to risk ruining it's chances with a brick and mortar just to test the waters.


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wingedcentaur 5 years ago from That Great Primordial Smash UP of This and That Which Gave Rise To All Beings and All Things!

Actually, that little ditty is quite good for something you came up with on the fly!

Take it easy. :D


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

I have the advantage of being able to steal most of it from the original lol.


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

@Eric, you are too cool! LOL

@Shinkicker, I have to get around to realing more of your hubs. I've been so busy with Life.

@Shadesbreath, You are the funniest or one of the top.

Now this thing about self promotion--who the heck else is going to do it--we are!! DOH! HP and google are really funny. LOL LOL LOL NOT!


cookingdiva 5 years ago

I think many people use article directory from promoting their site etc so I personally do not think anything is wrong with it, as long as it is done without looking spammy.

I do not have facebook account rightnow, else I can join in too. Thanks for 30 minutes hub challenge, this was first ever for me! It was rushed but felt good.


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Karen Wodke 5 years ago from Midwest

Out of this entire article, one main point stands out to me. It was this: "promoting it like some slattern waggling her plump buttocks at drunken sailors". So my question is, do my hubs make my hips look big? If I typed at an angle, would it be less noticeable? After 6 months at sea, do sailors really care about the size of a slatternly caboose? See, these are deep and thought-provoking questions and while I enjoyed your hub immensely, I do not believe you addressed these points.

lol


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Cookingdiva, it's okay. I'm mostly just playing around with the FB thing to make the point. And I understand self promotion. If don't promote ourselves, who will, eh? But there are classy and unclassy ways to do it, I reckon. :)

Hi Karen. I have to tell you, I laughed when I read that. That's some funny stuff, the kind of comment someone in a Monty Python skit would make. In fact, funny enough that now I'm going to go read some of your stuff to see what kind of person is so delightfully perverse.


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Karen Wodke 5 years ago from Midwest

Wonderful! I have reeled in another one!


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

You have indeed! Perhaps several. :)


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mysterylady 89 5 years ago from Florida

Before I read this hub, I was afraid it would be lambasting people like me who have occasionally asked someone to read one of their hubs. I should have known that was not your style!

The drawing of "Shadesbreath the Slattern" is a masterpiece! I can see it hanging in the Louvre.

I have been told I must join Facebook in order to read anything there, and I understand it is very difficult to get out of Facebook once you have joined. Thus, I won't be able to follow the rest of your self-promotion. Sob!

Rated up and funny.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

LOL, Mysterylady, how fun would that be? Me, immortalized in the Louvre. Figures it would be in drag. (sigh). lol. And yeah, Facebook is what it is. I think there's some value to it, and there's no chance of hiding anything about yourself in the modern world. Trust me, they've already assembled your data through credit card purchases and subscription data alone. They know where you go, how you get there, what you do, what you buy and where you buy it, and how all that relates to how to market to you as a consumer. Facebook is sort of the resignation of the populace and, subsequently, the freedom that comes with acceptance. Maybe. lol.


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mysterylady 89 5 years ago from Florida

What a trip it would be to see some of your drawings in the Louvre! A dramatic change from the Mona Lisa.

I am glad you confirmed what I had heard about Facebook. The little bit I have seen is not my thing: family pictures, pictures of parties, etc. While I realize much data is out there on me, at least I can refrain from sharing my personal life with hundreds of "friends." After all, I am "mysterylady."


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Exellent examples, Shadesbreath. You are definitely standing firmly on the ground. With BOTH feet!

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SilentReed 5 years ago from Philippines

When a simple link would have suffice / The brain on a stick thought otherwise / Not one to let opportunity simply pass by / This hub should be rated "A" for Audacious :)) "Audentes fortuna juvat "


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Mysterylady, staying off Facebook is definitely a good way to maintain the mystery. If your name was RagingNarcissisticLady 89, then you'd need to sign up. :)

Best Hub Pages: It's a good idea. Nice to see someone finally doing it. Been trying to get HubPages to do something formally for the last year or so. I tend to read books more than hubs, but when I come across something of genuine quality, I'll send it your way for sure. I'll try to think of some of the really good ones I've read too.

SilentReed, thanks for that nice verse. And, let's hope fortune hurries up about it, eh? lol.


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seanorjohn 5 years ago

If you carry on like this Shades, a certain hubber won't let you wear his coloured hat. Congrats on even figuring out how to get going with facebook. I take my hat off to you (It's not a black hat). I got on to facebook but forgot my password again. Best of luck in your noble crusade.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

LOL, You know, I think that certain hubber would actually appreciate this one. Facebook may turn out to have more value than I gave it credit for early on. It's evolving into something that may surprise people in two years.


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BobbiRant 5 years ago from New York

Does this hub contain self promotion? Hadn't noticed. Great hub!


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Of course not, BobbiRant. I would never stoop to that sort of shameless behavior. If I let people know I wanted them to go click like on the Facebook page they can easily find by searching "Shadesbreath" I would be no better than anyone else who does that. And since I like being better than anyone else, I won't ask anyone to go search out my awesome Facebook page.


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Artisan Walker 5 years ago from Springfield, Oregon

I suppose I'm guilty of this, as well ... to a small degree. I have banner-links to my Web Builder site at the bottom of many of my hubs.

The irony is; I'm taking a Web design class and now consider that site to be crap.

... I've definitely got to take those banners down!


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mega1 5 years ago

I have noticed SOME people doing outrageous self-promotion. But as for me, I have been far too busy publishing my latest addition to slang I have absolutely stopped using and so I haven't even had a chance or the desire to self promote. What will we do about all those shameless slutty people who insist on strutting their egos without permission?


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Yeah, A.W., it's not a pretty site, is it. LOL. But, it's got it's usefulness. I think. We shall see. As far as the banner ads, if they ain't hurting anything, they ain't hurting anything. IF you don't promote yourself, who will?

Hi MEga.Yes, it's good you don't promote the publishing of your hub that happens to have the url of http://hubpages.com/literature/Slang-Words-I-Have-... . I'm glad you didn't try to promote it here either, because that would have been unprofessional or something, so, we are in perfect agreement on this whole promotional thing. :D


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seanorjohn 5 years ago

Damn, I clicked on to the wrong thingy me thing again. I was trying to vote for hubnuggets. Gotta get a grip of this hub business.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Oh goody, maybe that means somehow this selfpromtional monster is appearing somewhere where it can be accidentally clicked on. I do love when that happens. (Crossing fingers).


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seanorjohn 5 years ago

Shades, it def is. Cos really I was trying to access a free porn site. This is gonna go viral.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Sweet! If it goes viral and I get 100,000 facebook fans, I can leverage 10,000 sales if I self-publish a novel, then just write a letter to a major publisher and say, "Here is my novel. I sold 10,000 copies in three weeks. Please help." Instant contract. :D


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seanorjohn 5 years ago

Can I have %5 of sales if I inadvertantly click on some other dodgy sites and leave your url. Wow, I wrote url, I am getting the hang of this seo business. Next thing I will be writing(printing) in blue ink.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Yeah, I hear that blue ink thing works awesome on duplicating machines.


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Dee aka Nonna 5 years ago

Everyday I stumble upon something useful and amazing. Thank you! I will be reading it again just to really absorb the next time.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Hi Dee aka Nonna. Thanks for reading. I'd caution you not to read this one too close or you might notice what I did and then think I is what I say I amn't. :)


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Dee aka Nonna 5 years ago

Made me chuckle.... needed that too!


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katiem2 5 years ago from I'm outta here

Thanks for pointing out the violation of shameless self promotion and most importantly that it is wrong. Whew your a real moral leader and to that I say hats off! I must say I will be very careful not to click on the example links you so carefully provided as a learning troll, oh I mean tool... :)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

You are welcome, Katiem2. I feel I am doing a good service to the community by pointing these out. And I'm glad you realize that those links that I posted leading to that awesome and hilarious facebook page that everyone loves who visits it were not meant to be clicked on.


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Green Lotus 5 years ago from Atlanta, GA

Wow I haven't read your stuff lately and I decide to read this one, mainly because I've been feeling guilty about putting too many self-promoting links in my hubs and I'm a glutton for punishment. I recently went over the ugly "3-link" limit and was sorely chastised by the hubteam, but this made me feel worthy again. Thanks. Nice FB site btw. Is that you in the third photo?


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

LOL, I wish that was me in the third photo. Sort of. lol. Thanks for reading, btw, and don't feel to bad about trying to promote yourself. Who else is going to promote us if we don't ourselves. If we donn't promote our commercial enterprises, then we leave only the racket of the big companies who already have enough cash.


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bloggering 5 years ago from Southern California

Hey - great self promotion :-)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Bloggering ... shhhh, :)


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AshleyRB 5 years ago from United States

You made me laugh mister!

You just earned a new hub stalker :)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Oh goody, a new stalker. One simply can't have enough stalkers.

:)


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands)

Genius Shades, I know you would never dream of self-promoting, after all you have no need to when your reputation precedes you :)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Heh, yeah, my reputation and two bucks will get me a cheeseburger and a coke at McDonalds.


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nell79 5 years ago from United States

I may be fairly new here, but I had a feeling this would be your stance on this issue. You're just far too serious and buttoned up to ever dirty yourself in such a manner! Good for you on standing up on that soap box!

Such a pity about that facebook page though. It could've gotten a good following with some flagrant self-promotion! ;)


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Yes, I have some standards all right, and I refuse to compromise on them unless convenience dictates otherwise. I appreciate your recognizing this. And yes, it is a shame that my really amazing Facebook page couldn't get some benefit by my directing people, even begging them to go LIKE it, which I would clearly never do.


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nell79 5 years ago from United States

Okay! Okay! I'll admit it! Despite your wishes to the contrary, I went to see your FB page. However, being the prude that I am, your scantily clad pics (not of you, of course LOL) just didn't hook me. It was the cute little puppy and kitten that got the job done :D


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Yep, see, something for everyone. Victory is mine. :D


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nicomp 5 years ago from Ohio, USA

You seem to be lacking somewhat in self confidence. Go ahead, put yourself out there: you have nothing to lose!


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

I'm either lacking in self confidence or subtlety, Nicomp. LOL. One of those is going to get me someday!!!


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figment 5 years ago from Texas

Great hub! Very interestingly written.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

Thanks. I try. :)


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fastfreta 5 years ago from Southern California

Cute, I like it!


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speedbird 5 years ago from Nairobi, Kenya

Thanks for educating people on unethical promotion on hubpages.


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California Author

I'm here to help, you know? :D


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Nick DeGeorge 22 months ago from Gilbert Arizona

Why is promoting your other work wrong? The vast majority of the content on hubpages is all borrowed from some other source. The amount of original writing here is negligible some people enjoy original content .

The fact is hubpages does not support content only data farms and I am not surprised people find their work copied when all they did was copy from other sources.

None of the great writers of our lifetime would last on hubpages because no photos, videos or how to content who will be searching for the next hunger games or lord of the rings . True writers need to self promote their original content or it will be drowned by an ocean of how to's and recipes and what about that TV show.

You should look up the meaning of unethical before you claim there is a policy violation. If someone's hub is poor it will get rated as such however I have no intention of publishing all my work here as it's not a place which supports fiction . However the excerpts I have here should allow the folks who follow my writing to go to other places such as a personal website or fiction site where they can enjoy the postings .

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