Pennsylvania School Experiments With Segregation?

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   C.J. Wrightposted 13 years ago

   The Lancaster High School is segregating students by race, then further by gender. The experiment is based on statistics that indicate same-race classes with strong same-race role models led to better academic results. Your thoughts?
   
   Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z1CFKpuTfc
   
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … sults.html

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   Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

   The article mentioned "conscientious stupidity".  I think all that really means is that the black students showed a lack  of ambition.  I'm not sure if there is a cure for that.

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   Rafiniposted 13 years ago

   um, didn't segregation fail the first time around?  why 'try' again?

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      Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      it didn't really fail.
      
      Despite being a State-by-state issue (as shown clearly via Article 1 section 8 and the 10th amendment), the Supreme Court legislated from the bench (an unconstitutional act on 2 fronts: the federal government passing such law, and the fact that the SC was legislating) and outlawed segregation.
      
      Then, because school districts and individual students couldn't bus students around, the SC further legislated that all students have to be bussed around equally. This costs the US Millions of dollars each year, and was also an unconstitutional decision.
      
      Anyway, the entire problem simply originates by having a public education system: why not just make it all completely private?
      
      Before you say "no one will ever be educated except the uber-rich", this is utter nonsense. The first schools in the world, and in our country, were private -- just like the roads, police, and countless other "government-only" industries.

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         Rafiniposted 13 years agoin reply to this

           I don't agree with you, but I'm not going to argue.
         
         
         I do agree, however, that since busing costs are in the millions, it may be time to end it and allow students to go either go to the school of choice (as long as there's room) or go to the closest school.

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   Evan G Rogersposted 13 years ago

   Research is research.
   
   I'm surprised people are letting it actually go through!
   
   I'd love to see what the long term results will be.

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   Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

   There's something to that.  Any time you pay for something you're automatically going to value it.  We can all pay less taxes, the unions would be declawed, schools actually have to compete for business and that would inherently make the curriculum better, and teachers would have to be effective.  But people aren't going to go for it.  Most people now expect school to be free.

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   secularist10posted 13 years ago

   What the article describes sounds more like a mentorship program for black students. Aside from the label of "segregation" it resembles the type of mentorship programs, after school programs and extracurricular activities that are utilized and enjoyed by students across the country, with no controversy.
   
   The real issue, if anyone is interested, is the continuing preeminence of race and skin color in identity in America. When people can form strong identities apart from race or skin color, then they will inculcate their children with those new ways of thinking about themselves and others. And those children will then feel quite comfortable with teachers and authority figures of races different than their own.
   
   But as long as there is distance or a sense of "difference," then it stands to reason that a strong connection between teacher and student will be difficult to come by.

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