Hating your Hub.

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   Seezaposted 7 years ago

   Have you ever created a hub you ended up hating?  And if so, did you end up deleting it?

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      jimmyglaughlinposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I let it sit for a while, then I read it again, hopefully see how to fix it. I a hub tweaker, I continuosly tweak, until it is perfect......well, perfect in my mind anyway, lol

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         Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I know what you mean! But what if you didn't really like the subject to begin with.  What if you only wrote it in hopes of getting traffic?  I enjoy twining articles I enjoyed writing.  I get really lazy with the ones I do not like.

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            jimmyglaughlinposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I do have one hub unpublished that no matter what I do it stinks, but I keep going back to it. I am not the best writer, but this ones a stinker

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               Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               You do not like the subject of the hub? Or they way you wrote it? I find that if the subject interests me I will be motivated, but if I don not then I get really lazy about it.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            If you wrote something second-rate just to get traffic and it's not getting traffic, delete it - for one very good reason.
            
            Over 90% of our traffic on this site comes from Google.   Google assigns every website an overall score.   That helps determine how high each article on that site ranks.  So, a great article on a high-scoring website will rank at the top of page 1.   The same article on a low-scoring website would rank much lower.
            
            Now here's the nasty bit:  Google's score is based on the worst article on the site.  So you could have a fantastic website but you've got one spammy article - Google's scoring algorithm ignores all the good stuff and rates your site based on that one bad egg.
            
            That's why HubPages tries to weed out or hide the bad stuff, and why we should be ruthless too - bad Hubs affect our good Hubs.

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               Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Does google consider the sum of our individual hubs as a separate website, or are we just considered part of the hub pages website.  Thank you so much for all the advice it is highly appreciated.

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Our Hubs are just part of the HubPages website, Google doesn't recognize our accounts as separate entities.

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                     Jesse Drzalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     I've actually been wondering about that for a while. Thanks, Marisa.

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      OldRosesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I wrote a hub that was a little shorter than usual, but I was satisfied that it conveyed all of the information that I wanted to get across.  HP unfeatured it saying it was too short.  I added a lot of filler and unnecessary information to meet their requirements.  The hub was then featured, but now I hate it.  It's not up to my own quality standards.  It's been about a year, but I'm still on the fence whether to delete it or not.

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         Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I really do not understand why the length of a hub is so important.  Personally, I like shorter hubs.

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            OldRosesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            HP claims the Google likes hubs that are over 1000 words.  I agree with you and prefer shorter hubs.  I don't like reading long articles online.  But to get featured on HP you have to meet their word count requirements.  It's their site so they get to decide the rules.

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               Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Very true. 
               
               I know your main traffic comes from Pinterest, but for the majority of HubPages, 90% of the traffic comes from Google so that's what their advice is aimed at.   
               
               The thing to remember is that you're writing for two audiences - real people, and Google.  Obviously people are more important, but if you don't satisfy Google, those real people won't ever get to see what you've written.
               
               The length is to please Google, which seems to be demanding longer articles these days (unless the article is on a specialist blog, where it's still possible to get away with shorter posts - but even there, longer seems to be favoured).   
               
               You need to structure your long post so it's back to front - instead of an introduction and then the meat, you give them the meat and then give them the background information.  That gets around the problem that while Google likes length, real people tend to want quick answers.

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                  Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I will take your advice and restructure one of my hubs, and also make it longer.  I can see how school-like essays can be boring to most people.  So far, both of my hubs have been featured (with one being extremely short),but I have not received any traffic from google.  The shorter hub I will probably delete it.

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      mike102771posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I would have to say that I don't like any of my hubs. I find it difficult to express my opinions or ideas in written form. Every time I go back to one I find a mistake or logic error.  I try and not go back to them without a reason. To quote the song I just had to "let it go."

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         Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I really liked your article on "Motivation and Management," and I wonder why it is not featured yet. Do you find that you can express your self better if the subject really interests you?

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            mike102771posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I wrote that around four years ago as an assignment for class (something I now lack) and it took me a long time to do it. I just don't have that kind of time now. As a dyslexic with horrible spelling I fight (with myself) to write what I am thinking. Even now I type everything into MS Word to check spelling and punctuation.
            
            Thank you for liking the article.

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               Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I have the same problem honestly, but I do see steady improvements.  Also, I think most people that take writing seriously write in word processors for many reasons. Keep on writing in time it will get easer.

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      Hellenic Pagan1posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      My first hub I wasn't sure about and I knew it was pretty bad. But I leave it up  there for people to comment on to tell me exactly what I am doing wrong and what I am doing right

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         Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Well I really liked the content of all of your hubs, very interesting subjects.  However, I would probably take some time improving them.

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      Dean Traylorposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I'd have to say it was my second article on I published on this site. It was on the theme of teachers and their perceived stature in society. It was done in haste and at the time I was contributing to another site and didn't really put the proper care it needed. I haven't deleted it, considering it has surprisingly done well (at least in the beginning). Since then, I've considered revising it to make it more focused and less preachy.

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   Jesse Drzalposted 7 years ago

   I would just leave it as is. You could have some paralysis by overanalysis going on with it. In a few days, you may get an idea that makes it a home run. Or not.

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      Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Ya I know what you mean. If it comes it comes...

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   Luke Holmposted 7 years ago

   I wouldn't say I hate any, as I probably wouldn't waste precious time on something I don't already fully believe in.  However, I do have about 50 or so hubs that I haven't published yet, because the timing just isn't right.

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      Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      What do you mean by the timing?

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         Luke Holmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Well, for instance, I saved a hub of poems about Spring for Springtime.  I'm saving a hub about Mother's Day for the end of April.  I try to vary the hubs I post.  A few poems, a short story, and then several academic essays; repeat (but not strictly).  Furthermore, if I'm posting hubs that have corresponding information, I try to post one after another (as they link to each other through internal links).  I also try to only post one hub a day or only several a week...let them catch up on putting them on niche sites.

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            Seezaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I can understand why you would wait to publish hubs relating to specific seasons or special days. Also, I can see why you would vary the sequence of the type of material you publish.  But, I don not understand why you would only post one hub par day, and how that would relate to the niche sites.  Is it an easier strategy to gain traffic?

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            Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Tip:  if you have a Hub aimed at a particular date, publish it about six months before the date.
            
            If you wait until the date itself, you'll miss the boat.  Google may index your Hub immediately, but it will take some time to decide whether to rank your Hub and how well.

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               Luke Holmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Nice. Thank you, Marisa.  You, above all people, have given me insight and useful information for this website. I'll take that to heart immediately.

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   Stunposted 7 years ago

   I used to write articles for my website (which I ended up selling for a nice profit) but I took a long break from writing articles to travel a bit and take some time off. Not too long ago I started up a small web design website that I'm working on which I will eventually turn into an LLC and make it my fulltime job. Sooo that being said, it's been a couple years since I wrote articles and just started writing again on Hubpages. My first three hubs were horrible so I deleted all three upon publishing my fouth, lol. I didn't want them bringing down my score or sitting on my Hubs page staring at me. I tend to rewrite stuff 100x so I'm very picky when it comes to having an article attached to my name I feel is bad. I don't want someone reading a bad one and avoiding my future work because something I wrote was crappy. lol

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