POISON = partially hydrogenated oils (TFA)

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   qwarkposted 12 years ago

   Partially hydrogenated oils (Trans Fatty Oils) are "poison!"
   
   Partially hydrogenated oils will not only kill you in the long term by producing diseases like multiple sclerosis and allergies that lead to arthritis, but in the meantime THEY WILL MAKE YOU FAT!
   
   ...there is NO safe level of TFA intake.
   
   Legislation has been enacted in some states banning the use of TFAs in restaurants.
   
   
   "If Trans fats are so dangerous, why is their use so widespread? Dietary fat expert Udo Erasmus put it this way: “TFA’s are a food manufacturer’s dream: an unspoilable substance that lasts forever.” TFA’s are cheap and for countless food products, they can prolong shelf life, allow easy transport, provide solidity at room temperature (to make spreads), and increase suitability for commercial frying."
   
   When you shop, check the ingredients. If it contains "partially hydrogenated oils" DON'T BUY IT!
   
   Dump any foods you have at home that contain TFA's!
   
   Absolutely! Don't let your kids eat it!
   
   Qwark

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   qwarkposted 12 years ago

   No one cares that they are, inadvertantly, feeding their kids poison?
   
   My goodness! We Americans are dumbing down and becoming disgustingly, dangerously apathetic!
   
   Tsk, tsk...!!!
   
   Qwark

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      JulieCarlsonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for sharing this information. For health, this is important to know.

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         qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Ty julie;
         My pleasure! :
         Qwark

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      cindi hposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Qwark I must say you provide the most interesting forums! Thank you.  You and I think alike on most issues. I am fully engrossed in the natural herbs and remedies that are slowly but surely becoming more prevalent. I've always feed my kids the most healthy options available. We live on mostly organic food products, lots of home grown vegies and NO TRANS FATS!!  EVER. And still you must be careful about what passes as organic or natural.

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   wildernessposted 12 years ago

   It's not that, Quark.  It's that:
   
   Eggs are poison
   
   Meat is poison
   
   Salt is poison
   
   White bread is poison
   
   Butter is poison
   
   Macaroni and Cheese is poison
   
   Potatoes are poison
   
   Hot dogs are poison
   
   In fact, everything that is fun to put in your mouth is poison.  You but add to a long, long list.
   
   Seriously, though, your post illustrates one of my problems with such pronouncements as:
   
   "there is NO safe level of TFA intake". 
   
   I do not believe for an instant that an intake level of 1 microgram per year will cause any detectable health problems over an entire lifetime.  Nor will it do so over the lifetimes of an entire planet full of people; rather it is the most common scare tactic used.
   
   In other words, there IS a safe level for TFA, but neither you nor your source would care to provide it.  Insufficient testing, perhaps, or simply a desire to shut the industry down because it is, after all, not a healthy product. 
   
   I have no doubt that it causes health problems when overused, but tend to shut down a speaker when they make statements such as you did.

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hello wilderness"
      Absolutely correct!
      There are no bad foods! Only bad habits.
      Eaten' in moderation, the human body can ingest just about anything that is edible. We are omnivores. But partially hydrogenated oils are particularly dangerous if consumed in a regular diet. Almost all cookies, ice creams, baked items etc. include this nasty product and it is, very, very fattening. it also causes clogging of the arteries.+ many more deleterious effects on the human body.
      It doesn't take much research to find out exactly how it affects us.
      I eat a cookie once in a while with it in it...'cause they're so damned good...
      I'm an "ingredient" reader. If sumthin' contains anything with the word "hydrogenated" I reject it.  :
      Qwark

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         wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe I'm OK then.  I eat very little cookies, cakes, etc. and little ice cream.  My problem is fatty meat and the starches.
         
         I've always felt that we can eat nearly anything in moderation and in fact it is probably a good idea to do so.  A varied diet means we get a variety of nutrients, vitamins, etc.
         
         It's why I will never be a vegetarian (other than the fact I like meat) - the human animal evolved eating meat and it is extremely difficult to get all of the nutrients that meat provides from other sources.
         
         We did NOT, however, evolve eating large quantities of TFAs and it is almost certainly a good idea to stay away from them for the most part.

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            qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Wilderness:
            Hell man! Treat yourself once in a while! Just make sure that the majority of what ya eat isn't "fatty crap!"
            My diet as a health nut is about 60% complex carbs, 30% hi quality protein and 10% fat.
            Once in a while yuk yuk : I'll sneak some cookies and ice cream!   
            I'm 68 and try to maintain my weight at 20 yrs old: 6', 200 lbs.
            Diet is 70% of good health...I hit the gym 5 days a week for 1 1/2 hours.
            Anyway, sure, splurge once in a while. Life is to enjoy!:
            Qwark

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               wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Oh I splurge all right - too often in fact.  It's just that my splurge is a giant pizza with all the meats and grease or a visit to the local buffet line, not cookies and ice cream.

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                  qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Hahaha...
                  WEll the old saying: "Ya are what ya eat" is wrong.
                  Ya are what ya "assimilate" of what ya eat...:
                  Have ya checked the mirror lately? Ya might just be a big flat supreme pizza  lol 
                  Hey, if yer happy, do what keeps ya happy for yer remaining days! :
                  Qwark

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   Muldanianmanposted 12 years ago

   It will be very difficult to avoid these fats, as they are in almost everything.  The only way would be to buy only raw products and cook everything from scratch, but with the busy lives people have today, this is not practical.

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Muldanian:
      Sure there's a way to bypass 'em.
      They are man made. If the list of ingredients mentions it, don't buy it. Simple as that.
      Qwark

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   If there really was no safe level I would be fat or dead (for the record, I'm not).  They are not good for you, and may meet the medical definition of 'toxic' (this is under debate), but they are not on the same level as asbestos and other 'no safe level' toxins.

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   recommend1posted 12 years ago

   TFA is just one of a long list of harmful substances that are put into processed foods, others, like the huge quantities of lactose powder that is added to a wide range of products to 'bulk' them up cheaply - many people are lactose intolerant causing widespread problems including causing or aggravating Crone's desease.
   
   All these things are only there to enable the supermarket conglomerates to sell cheaply while increasing their profits and thereby removing all competition.

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   fit2dayposted 12 years ago

   The sad thing is a few years back people keyed into all of the bad health effects of trans fat and as a result, there are all these companies putting 0g trans fat on the nutrition labels, but they do indeed have trans fat. Example being regular peanut butter. Another thing people don't realize is that cooking in vegetable oil is bad. Unsaturated oils aren't good for cooking, use saturated ones, such as coconut to cook with.

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Fit:
      "Skippy" makes good p-nut butter sans PHO.
      I never fry foods.
      You are right!
      America does it and is FAT!
      Qwark

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