Gun Control / Booze Control / Hypocrites by Merwin

Statistical comparison of 2003's injury and deaths with drunk driving and guns.



According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration there are about 43,000 people killed in fatal car accidents each year in the United States. Roughly, 40 percent of the fatal crashes are alcohol-related. In addition to fatal accidents, about 2.9 million people are injured each year.

In 2003 alone, 30,136 Americans died by gunfire: 16,907 in firearm suicides, 11,920 in firearm homicides, 730 in unintentional shootings, and 232 in firearm deaths of unknown intent, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Nearly three times that number are treated in emergency rooms each year for nonfatal firearm injuries.

16,907 in firearm suicides,
11,920 in firearm homicides,

Of these deaths by firearms... I estimate the majority (if not all) to be alcohol/drug related.

When compared with the amount of deaths AND injuries for the year 2003, for our nations highways 43,000 / 2.9 million, with  40% of those attributed to booze... why is the liberal community so hot to trot to take our guns?

The position that it is about saving lives is nonsense.

If it were about saving lives and the quality of life, then where is their push to stop those who are driving while intoxicated?

I suggest that the most outspoken segment of the liberal community... Hollywood (and that industry in general), is supported in a major way by the commercial interests that manufacture booze.   And, I believe it is fair to mention there is a goodly amount of their numbers that get arrested for DUI's.

So where is their self-righteous soap-box credibility in relation to the numbers above..? Their credibility is non-existent in my eyes... they are hypocrites that strain at a gnat and swallow a camel... by the keg!

The guns are a big issue for hollywood (small 'h' intentional) for they... the outspoken anti-gun lobbyists from the entertainment industry, are the front men/women for those concerns that are trying to subjugate our masses under socialism in the extreme sense.

I see little that is sinister with socialism in moderation. Socialism in the totalitarian vein however, is heinous.

Hollywood is populated with high profile puppets who are marching according to their strings that are pulled. Talking heads that mimic the rhetoric provided to them by their movers, shakers and policy makers.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) ... ; The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Hollywood is lying to the masses (you and I). They care little about saving lives when they speak out against guns. For it would be much more of a life saver for them to speak out against booze commercials on TV, but then, where would they get their paycheck..?


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gregas 5 years ago from Corona, California.

Hi Co, I agree about the right to own guns. However, the people that own those guns should take full responsibility for the safe keeping of those guns. There is the saying, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people". But they need to finish that with, "People kill people with guns". Jared wouldn't have done nearly as much damage, if any, if he had attempted to do what he did with, say a knife, now would have he? Yes, and people kill people with cars when they have been drinking. That's a fact too. There has to be some kind of control on both. There is know way they can remove either one of them, but there has to be a way to control both that will satisfy everyone. My two cents, for what little it is worth. Greg


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Thank you for your comment Gregas... always good to hear from you.

My point in writing the article is to point out that intoxication is the much bigger issue. Even the vast majority of murders committed with a gun, and accidental deaths and injuries from guns, had drugs or alcohol involvement.

Where is the outcry from hollywood to control the highway intoxication?

How many people could be stopped on their way to commit gun related crimes just because of zero tolerance for highway intoxication, and the subsequent highway checkpoints? A boozed up lawbreaker is much easier to catch in the act, than a RARE... sober, would be criminal.

No... hollywood, would much rather step up their game to make sure that only the outlaws owned guns.

And it is worth replying to your comment about knives... is a governance that is bent on subjugating its masses more afraid of a knife or an AK-47 in the hands of what previously was an honest law abiding citizen?

Especially when now the only thing that makes him an outlaw is the ownership of the gun?

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) ... ; The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.


Chasuk 5 years ago

I have opinions on many subjects, but not on this one. I appreciate the arguments from both sides. That's what locks me into indecision; I don't agree or disagree with the proponents or the opponents (of gun control) to any meaningful degree.

I do have two questions about this hub, however:

1. What led you to conclude that the majority of firearm deaths are alcohol/drug related?

2. When you say "alcohol/drug related," are you conflating alcohol and narcotics (in the sense of drugs that are legally prohibited), or are you merely emphasizing that alcohol is itself a psychoactive drug?


Chasuk 5 years ago

By the way, there are pro-gun members of Hollywood and hollywood.


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

2 Chasuk...

Thanks for the comments.

1) A. I have a hard time looking things up... I am not a techy like the rest of planet. So I got lazy on this comment, rather than look up something that I am fairly certain of... I 'esteemed' it as such, and stated clearly "I estimate the majority..."

2) A. Yes I am taking the liberty of lumping alcohol and drugs into the same category because of their affect/effect(?) on a person's abilities.

I have little against mind altering substances and even less against the most common of these... alcohol.

Yes... the list is fairly long for actors who support gun ownership.

My point for the Hub was to point out h-Hollywood's grossly hypocritical bovine scatology.


Chasuk 5 years ago

Are you saying that you have some vague recollection of having encountered evidence that the majority of firearm deaths are alcohol/drug related?

I think you are having false memories, Merwin. I have no difficulty believing that many firearm deaths are alcohol/drug related, but the majority? That seems to me unlikely.

Well, maybe it isn't unlikely. I don't know. Are most suicides triggered by alcohol/drug induced melancholy? Possibly.

Anyway, thoughtful article. Thank you.


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Okay my friend I shall research it.


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

2 Chas...

Wikipedia

Suicide...

"[29] More than 50% of suicides are related to alcohol or drug use."

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Substance abuse

See also: Long-term effects of alcohol and Long-term effects of benzodiazepines

Substance abuse is the second most common risk factor for suicide after mood disorders.[28] Both chronic substance misuse as well as acute substance abuse is associated with suicide. This is attributed to the intoxicating and disinhibiting effects of many psychoactive substances; when combined with personal grief such as bereavement the risk of suicide is greatly increased.[29] More than 50% of suicides are related to alcohol or drug use. Up to 25% of drug addicts and alcoholics commit suicide. In adolescents the figure is higher with alcohol or drug misuse playing a role in up to 70% of suicides. It has been recommended that all drug addicts or alcoholics are investigated for suicidal thoughts due to the high risk of suicide.[30] An investigation in the New York Prison Service found that 90% of inmates who committed suicide had a history of substance abuse.[31]

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Also from Wikipedia

Homicides...

"...and 83% of homicides,"

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Alcohol-related crime

Of the adult US population, at least 75% are drinkers; and about 6% of the total group are alcoholics. In groups which are almost 100% drinkers, the alcoholism rate is about 8%. Many reports state that about 73% of felonies are alcohol-related. One survey shows that in about 67% of child-beating cases, 41% of forcible rape cases, 80% of wife-battering, 72% of stabbings, and 83% of homicides, either the attacker or the victim or both had been drinking.[2]


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gregas 5 years ago from Corona, California.

Hi Co, job well done. You were actually pretty close with your estimates. Greg


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Thanks gregas... if anything I underestimated some of it.


Kee Bird 5 years ago

The gun control hollywood hypotcrits want gun control for everyone ecept their bodyguards and theres plenty of them in lala land


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Thanks Kee Bird... very true.

That reminds me of Rosey O'Donnel (sp?) going off on Tom Sellek on her show about his position for gun owner rights, and then mere weeks later defending her body guard being armed.


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

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What more can be said now?

- Harlan

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