Introducing the 51st State of Chicago (aka) Learning How to Properly Accommodate the Absurd

I recently read, 11/25/2011, a story about a couple of Republican legislators living in Downstate Illinois, one of them from a town by the name of Decatur, who propose to separate Cook County, primarily, the City of Chicago from the rest of Illinois. I guess the new state would be called either “Cook” or “Chicago”. These two state legislators are identified as Bill Mitchell and Adam Brown.

Don’t get me wrong, I have been through Illinois, downstate and upstate. While Chicago is just a little rough for this guy, there is a lot to see on any visit. The rural areas of Illinois to the south is fertile farm land, most lovely. I guess while I was writing this the iconic work of art from Grant Wood’s, ‘American Gothic’ came to mind.

What are the explanations for such a draconian proposal from these two?

1. They say that Chicago-style politics are dominating the state

2. Chicago is overshadowing the rest of the state; Mitchell believes that families in the other part of the state believe that Chicago is dictating its views.

3. They believe that it best for Cook County, the second most populous county in the U.S. to become one state and the other 101 counties to become another.

I confess this is the first time that I have heard a proposal that would make an urban area into an independent state of the union. But leave it to the GOP. As Yosemite Sam said to Bugs Bunny once, ‘we are not fighting like gentlemen anymore, now we is gonna fight my way, dirty!’ History has an example of states going from one to two, the biggest one, of course, is Virginia and West Virginia. I have heard scuttlebutt from Texas and Oklahoma about combining themselves into a conservative empire, keeping all the liberal loons outside of its borders. I know of talk in California to separate the north from the south, just to make it all easier to administer. Then there is the situation in Arizona, where the more progressive Southern half of the state, represented by Tucson, wanted to part ways with the more conservative half of a generally conservative state, represented by Phoenix in the north. But seriously, to make a city, a single county into one new state, now that is unprecedented.

Case in Point

So what is behind all of this? A losing bid by the right-winger to gain control. Representation and appropriate legislators are determined by population, not just geographic area. Have we forgotten the concept of ‘one man, one vote’? If I were to go with their logic, then the situation in my native Colorado would be a target. The votes of relatively liberal/progressive Denver and Boulder counties win the day against other far more conservative parts of the state that vote pretty much like they do in neighboring Utah, Kansas and Wyoming. Should we now have a state called Denver/Boulder? Well, thank God for cities and growing progressive populations. Instead of all this nonesense, the rightwinger/GOP candidates better learn how to appeal to these growing urban populations. Because, these populations are not going away. It would be a most interesting inquiry to find out why urban people are so much more progressive than their rural and suburban counterparts. In any case, the complaint about large urban areas dominating politics in a state is as old as the pyramids and I will just tell my conservative friends to get over it and live with it as a fixture in American life.

These two fellows, be it Laurel and Hardy or Abbott and Costello, if you wish, need a brisk refresher in civics. They embarrass themselves and the political party they represent with such nonsense.

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WD Curry 111 5 years ago from Space Coast

I thought Florida was the gerrymandering capital of the world. We get the same deal from Tallahassee. It isn't a conservative/liberal thing as much as a development/ conservation thing. They went as far as ignoring executive orders from the Governor, thus Charlie Crist went independent, Fox News notwithstanding.

We are getting a lot of pressure to drill offshore. There is talk on the grassroots level of making a break from D.C. rather than allow it. It's Jefferson and Hamilton all over again. Dig another grave for the Federalists.


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claptona 5 years ago from Earth

Hi Crede,

Interesting post.

Easiest way to convey an idea is to get it out there.

Want people to vote for you?

Give them a compelling reason to do so.

Education, ideas and messages can be transported easily, just like I am doing here.

If the message is a bad one, not matter how you divvy the state, no ones going to vote for you.

Ain't just the GOP that wants things changed to accommodate their agenda. ( I remember a guy by the name of John Kennedy - he was so popular he raised the dead in Il. to vote for him)

Cheers


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feenix 5 years ago

Hello, Credence2,

You failed to mention that nearly every Democrat politician there is wants to make the District of Columbia a state; thereby, adding two Democrat Senators to Congress and one Democrat Congressperson (for sure).

Furthermore, why are you taking an idea presented by a mere two Republican politicians and making it look like the entire GOP is mounting a movement to turn Chicago into a separate state?

And claptona is right. In 1960, about 100,000 dead people voted for JFK in Chicago. And that is just one example of the corruptness of the longstanding Chicago political machine. That city has the worst reputation in the U.S. when it comes to crooked government and politics -- and it has all taken place under Democrats or "progressives" as you like to call them.

I must also say that so-called progressives are largely comprised by adolescents and old folks who still think like adolescents; whereas, conservatives are comprised by grownups who think and behave like grownups.

Therefore, it is time for a whole lot of people in America -- mainly Democrats/liberals/progressives -- to grow up. Their child-like and idealistic approach to the issues is gumming up the works.


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi, WD, there are many reasons that there may be conflicts between urban dwellers and rural/suburban types, but you wouldn't advocate making Tallahassee a seperate independent state from Florida, would you?


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south

Good article. I was really amused by the comment above about the differences between progressives and conservatives, and the putting of conservatives in the category of adult/grownups. Gave me quite a much needed laugh for today. Chicago has always been a separate world unto itself, as is New York City, so do we now make NYC, Boston, Los Angeles, etc.. separate states as well?

I just finished reading an article by another hubber that proposes that we make the requirements for running for congress a little more dependent on mental acuity instead of who kisses the butts of the wealthy and greedy the best. (paraphrased, of course). Maybe not such a bad idea, that we require our politicians to show some kind of intelligence before they are even allowed to run for office.


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi, John, the two GOP reps figured that they would have a better chance promoting the conservative agenda if their most numerous adversary, the City of Chicago could be eliminated. Their idea of a good idea is one that would resonate with the conservative agricultural types and not with the urban city dwellers, which there are more of.

I do recall the circumstance with Kennedy and skullduggery in the 1960 contest. Voter fraud and anomalies are not new to American politics. But the idea that you can openly and bald face present a hair brained political idea to America and the world? Now that is unprecedented!

Thanks for weighing in, Cred2


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hello feenix, thanks for stopping by

You said,

You failed to mention that nearly every Democrat politician there is wants to make the District of Columbia a state; thereby, adding two Democrat Senators to Congress and one Democrat Congressperson (for sure).

Everybody knows that DC, the District of Columbia is a jurisdictional legislative entity to itself and not included as part of any of the 50 states, that is not true with Chicago. The aspirations for representation under the circumstances are not necessarily unreasonable. You are comparing apples with hand grenades and the argument falls flat.

You said,

Furthermore, why are you taking an idea presented by a mere two Republican politicians and making it look like the entire GOP is mounting a movement to turn Chicago into a separate state

Well, feenix as far as I am concerned two is too many. These so called adults who should understand the nature of the game, should not have suggested such a thing so that it can leak into the press and make themselves look bad and give us all the more disparaging view of the GOP You know how it is with right wing guys, monkey see, monkey do?

As for the Kennedy election example, see my response to Claptona.

The rightwinger, and that is what these two fellows are are just fascist bullies that want to circumvent the system to get what they want. Does not sound much like grown ups to me. If growing up means becoming like you guys, I'll pass. But, again, that is just my opinion, too

Thanks for reading and commenting, I will see you round the hubs! Cred2


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claptona 5 years ago from Earth

Hi Crede,

"But the idea that you can openly and bald face present a hair brained political idea to America and the world? Now that is unprecedented!"

Funny, I see it almost on a daily basis with the politics of the USA.

How can one get out of debt by going further into debt? Ever work for you?

Where in the world has any country ever survived while using fiat? Never has worked and never will work.

Yet our government try's to sell the concept that paper is money and inflation is good for the people.

Both hair brained concepts being spun, for decades, and not one bit of truth to either idea.

Soooooo, my 2 cents worth Crede.

Have a great day!

Cheers


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feenix 5 years ago

Credence2,

You said, " ... the idea that you can openly and bald face present a hair brained political idea to America and the world? Now that is unprecedented!"

Now that is not true. Those two fellows "silly idea" is not "unprecedented."

Back in the 1700's when a group of guys got together and started openly expressing that the 13 Colonies should declare their independence from England -- many, if not most, Americans thought that was a "hair-brained political idea."

Additionally, in the 1950's and for a myriad of reasons, a number of "credible Americans" thought it was a "hair brained idea" to grant statehood to Hawaii.


feenix profile image

feenix 5 years ago

Credence2,

You said, "Everybody knows that DC, the District of Columbia is a jurisdictional legislative entity to itself and not included as part of any of the 50 states, that is not true with Chicago. The aspirations for representation under the circumstances are not necessarily unreasonable. You are comparing apples with hand grenades and the argument falls flat."

No,my friend, nothing did not "fall flat." There are scholars who believe that D.C. should cease to be a separate legislative body and become a city of Maryland or Virginia.

And "monkey see, monkey do?" Now that is a very juvenile way of seeing things. I will not even dignify it with a counterpoint.

"... fascist bullies?" That sounds like 1960's hippie-speak.


feenix profile image

feenix 5 years ago

Credence2,

You said," ... I do recall the circumstance with Kennedy and skullduggery in the 1960 contest. Voter fraud and anomalies are not new to American politics ..."

Well, aren't you the objective one.

Now, I will bet that if Nixon had been the one who received 100,000 votes from dead people, you would not be philosophical about it. You would be ranting and raving and calling it "Republican skullduggery,"


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi D,

"Maybe not such a bad idea, that we require our politicians to show some kind of intelligence before they are even allowed to run for office"

Gee, that would be enough to bring the house down, Washington would no longer be Washington, thanks for your support and visit... Cred2


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

John, I am certainly not excusing all the madness out there, I am just bringing up just this one glaring instance in the interests of brevity. I am sure that we can find common ground on so much that screwing up around here.


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Feenix, you said

Now that is not true. Those two fellows "silly idea" is not "unprecedented."

Maybe not, but it is unacceptable to circumvent rule of the majority and the democratic process by gerrymandering an urban area from its state. It is just sooo rightwing!

Well, some hair brained ideas make it to first base, others like this one is consigned to the rubbish bin where it belongs.

There are many locals in Hawaii that have not been happy with statehood for many reasons, losing control of resources and the like. But it is what it is, and we stand ready as the progressive state that we are to pour plenty of blue into your red kool-aid

Cred2


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Feenix, you mentioned,

No,my friend, nothing did not "fall flat." There are scholars who believe that D.C. should cease to be a separate legislative body and become a city of Maryland or Virginia.

That may well be true, but until its status is actually identified one way or another the contentious issues remain...

You also said that,

And "monkey see, monkey do?" Now that is a very juvenile way of seeing things. I will not even dignify it with a counterpoint.

"... fascist bullies?" That sounds like 1960's hippie-speak

It can't be anymore offensive than refering to liberal/progressives as adolescents and adults who think as adolescents. Tit for Tat? These so called adolescents put Barrack Obama in office in 2008 and looking at the assortment of clowns running for president under the GOP banner, they may very well contribute to Mr. Obama winning a second term. So, I would show a little more respect, if I were you.

Thanks, Cred2


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Feenix, thanks again for a most stimulating exchange.

I have alot to complain about with the voting fraud the 2000 election of GW Bush is questionable at best. It is not the party, it is the practice. Both sides engage in questionable activities, but it is the rightwinger that has perfected it to a level of a science, where the progressive is an amateur in comparison. Just my humble opinion!


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feenix 5 years ago

Credence2,

Actually, I kind of envy you because beginning in early November, 2012, you will be handed a niche from which you can write a huge number of hubs. And the name of that niche will be President Newt Gingrich ;-)


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

yeah, last week it Herman Cain, the week before that was Perry. I thought that you were a Romney man.

Anyway, I have any plans for eye of newt in my pot of stew


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Xenonlit 5 years ago

Well done. The "job killers" in California want to divide our state, too. But they do not realize two things: We in the North own the water and could send it out to sea instead of to the south for them to waste.

Plus, the urban centers have the money. It is the federal and state funds that prop up those bucolic, yet backward Farmvilles. When most of the rural people are as poor as church mice, the money is going to come from the urban tax bases and economic centers.


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Thanks for weighing in Xenonlit, if you guys in the north withold water from the south, how are they going to keep those swimming pools filled? The GOP will disenfranchise when competition and reason has failed, this is a case in point. Thanks!


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frugalfamily 4 years ago from Houston, TX

Hahaha, you never run out of material in your niche! I'm from the City of Chicago and I think its a great place to visit..and then go home:) I'm also sorry to report that the conservative state of Texas with our ever embarrassing governor has failed to keep this loon away. The only thing surprising me from this story is that the proposal didn't come from the fellas in Chicago. In order to collect taxes from Ohaire Airport, they had to re-draw the city boundaries to include one line of state highway and nothing on either side! As crazy as it is, I kinda understand always being the underdog..no matter where I move in our wonderful country I'm a minority. Maybe we should add a whole house full of representatives elected by minorities! Then everyone regardless of protected status would have a vote;)


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi, FF, thanks for dropping by. Who knows maybe we need a state of O'Hare, Chicago and Illinois? I can live with the other side winning as long as it is fair and square. You're a pretty well in know kind of lady, what would possess you to move to a place like Texas?

Cred2


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frugalfamily 4 years ago from Houston, TX

lmao Cred2 That is a wonderful question!

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