Questioning All Organized Religions

A time for reflection

We all need to take time for reflection
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Are our basic beliefs valid?

Learning to think for ourselves is easy, and is nothing to fear.

The Creative mind is open for all to access.

We must learn to trust ourselves and see the truths before us.

Thinking is actually a chore to be mastered.

The greatest priorities in life are to always seek truth, logic, knowledge, and do no harm to others.

This article is informational only, with no vested interest, or intentions, in trying to dissuade anyone from their personal religious beliefs and convictions. These beliefs belong to each of us individually and are ours alone to keep and cherish.

I do believe however, that faith and religious beliefs should be based on truth, reality and logic.

With these 2 statements made, i am writing this article to update, upgrade, and clarify all previous hubs regarding organized religions - an addendum , if you will.

Those who cannot handle truth, or are unable to incorporate reality into fantasy, might want to not read any further than this.

This is for spiritual enlightenment purposes only.

It is always Dawn somewhere in the world. We are given a new start every single day

Dairy cows grazing somewhere in the heartland at dawn.
Dairy cows grazing somewhere in the heartland at dawn.
Canada, New Brunswick, Gorham Pond at dawn
Canada, New Brunswick, Gorham Pond at dawn
Nassau, Bahamas at dawn
Nassau, Bahamas at dawn
A New England winter landscape at Dawn
A New England winter landscape at Dawn
Boston Harbor at Dawn
Boston Harbor at Dawn
dawn somewhere in time
dawn somewhere in time
Foggy Autumn landscape at Dawn
Foggy Autumn landscape at Dawn
Lighthouse at Dawn
Lighthouse at Dawn
Spring Forest at Dawn
Spring Forest at Dawn
Italy - Tuscany farmhouse at Dawn
Italy - Tuscany farmhouse at Dawn
Field of wild flowers at dawn
Field of wild flowers at dawn
We all have second chances to make changes in our lives - Every single second of every day.
We all have second chances to make changes in our lives - Every single second of every day.

New discoveries

Recent new discoveries have verified my past comments with more clarity than i was able to provide, based solely on my intellectual deductions, as they have been.

It is difficult to challenge historical facts, even for the most stolid religious zealot.

If one is a religious "schussboomer" they will probably not have the mental capacity to comprehend the significance of this article. (For those not familiar with the term 'schussboomer' it is a skiers' term meaning to ski downhill at high speed. One direction. No desire to stop, slow down, or veer off in another direction).

History tells us that Jesus lived 33 years and died in our calendar year - Zero.

Ergo, all time thereafter is considered A.D. (Anni Domini) (after death). He was not a christian , obviously, as this term was coined sometime in the 10th century to describe those who followed the "teachings of Jesus Christ".

There in lies the beginning of the falsification of what that statement really means.

Jesus was a Gnostic. That term is (and was) not considered heretic until the Roman Catholic Church declared it to be so.

Gnosis is a fundamental knowledge of spiritual truth held by the ancient (Gnostic) to be essential to salvation. This is what Jesus stood for - nothing more - nothing less. {Aside from his political views of course}.

He was quite the political rebel and just a man made of flesh and blood like all the rest of us.

Gnosticism is profound and provocative: and is the true meaning of the term "the teachings of Jesus Christ" until it was bastardized by the church officials sometime between the 1500 and 1600 centuries. The followers of Jesus (the apostles) were also Gnostics and there were fractionated sects of the residual of the original "teachings of Christ" amongst them after his death.

After the death of Jesus there were multiple written accounts of his life and "accomplishments" as related by those who penned those accounts. Some were loosely based on reality, most were based on stories, passed down through the ensuing 200 - 300 years after his death.

People in those days had no formal education. Not very many people were able to read or write and there were very few accounts reduced to writing, until many years after his death. And those writings were done by un-named people who only recounted the stories passed on down through the years.

Around the year 313 A.D. Constantine the Great, issued the "Edict of Milan" that made "Christianity" a lawful religion.

By the end of the 4th century, it had become the "State Religion". Historians refer to the church of this period as the "Constantinian Church", designating the privileged position of the church within the state.

This is when the fallacious teachings started.

The beginning of the end

During the 'middle ages' (1500-1600A.D.) the Roman Catholic Church was already established and developed the hierarchical structure that endured largely unchallenged until the Reformation.

There were many writings and stories about the life and time of Jesus; and Constantine decided there needed to be one text that 'personified' his (Constantine's) idea of a unified religion. So, he and a group of his cohorts created the first universal "bible" (A Holy book, as declared so, by state law and the Roman Church). This was the birth of the Bible as we know it today.

This book only consisted of 4 parts:

  • Mark
  • Mathew
  • Luke
  • John.

They were created from letters, stories, poems (psalms), etc.. that supposedly depicted each of their teachings. The authors of those letters and stories were unknown. These stories were consolidated and were entitled "the teachings" of each of them, to imply that they were actually written by these men. They, in fact, were not.

All the other writings, were discarded because they did not fit into the intended agenda, or purpose, of having ONE holy text, that unified the beliefs they wanted to portray.

There was extreme upheaval, dissension and scandal over the years, as the Roman Catholic Church sought independence from the State control it was under. (These stories are irrelevant for the purpose of this article, although they were quite interesting and the politics were not much different than those of today). (Perhaps, some of them might make interesting articles in the future).

The actual original "teachings of Jesus" (Gnosticism) were discarded and declared "heresy", by both the State and the Church.

Not because they were not the truth, but because the times called for conformity, and control, by the state and the church, over the people.

So the "Christianity" that is so defended and revered today was in actuality a creation of politicians who were NOT so "holy" men.

This new Bible had to provide for intermediaries between man and God, otherwise the church and state would have little relevance, and lose its power and control over their minions..

Gnosticism has no need for intermediaries between man and God. It is this personal connection to God that Jesus taught to be the "Salvation of Man".

This belief was what the state and the church had to conceal from the public.

It would have rendered them both, redundant and superfluous and thereby unnecessary to the people.

And so it continues today.

The corruption of all that is 'holy', by greedy men, power hungry governments, and masses of individuals who have relinquished their souls to those corrupt few; because they lack the courage and the fortitude to seek their own personal destinies and salvation's.

Conclusions

The truth be now known!

  • How will we handle this new truth?
  • How does it feel to know we have been duped for centuries; brainwashed into submission?
  • How do we all deal with the fact that we have such fear instilled in our hearts, minds, and souls, that we are unable to see that truth, or face it, or counter the damages of the ravages of time, on our belief systems?
  • How do we reconcile the fact that our religion, that we cling so steadfastly to, is nothing more than the results of an elaborate, wily, subterfuge, concocted by one Roman magistrate (A POLITICIAN), 1500 years ago?

This 'book', 'bible', 'holy scripture', etc, is reduced to a book of fairy tales innocently accepted by people who needed to believe that they are not responsible for themselves, their own destinies, their own desires, and their own salvation.

So they have willingly embraced these fairy tales as fact in order to make sense of it all.

The revelation

For the enlightenment of man:

What fools, we mortals be.

Suffer mankind; and deservedly.

Even the truth, won't set us free.

Fear and deception is our true decree.

Blindness will lead us, to our dismay,

for no one will accept the truth today.

Easier it is, to let guile lead our way.

We can keep our deceit, or 'will' it away.

Open our eyes so we can see

that this is not our true destiny.

Before we falter, and go on astray,

plead to God, that the truth, He display.

by: d.william 03/01/11

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for your support. You always know the appropriate video to accompany your comments. Thanks. dw


Garry Bannister 5 years ago

Hi DW... I love your punchy style! I would like to throw in my own two-pence halfpenny as a kind of afterthought... Your article reminds me of the wise words spoken by Pontius Pilate who apparently asked Jesus... what is truth? I think I'd go a tad further than asking a question and perhaps suggest that there is no solid truth about anyone or anything. Truth is merely a point of view.. another aspect of belief. Xavier Nathan, many years ago, told me that he did not believe in anything but that certain things were true for him relative to his experience and where he happened to be at that time. All beliefs are valid but no belief is objectively true because every statement, be it.. scientific, religious, philosophical or whatever is always relative to some particular solid positions held. As way of an example, the beautiful picture of ' The Eye of Heaven’ (MyCn18) which you use in your hubs does not look like an eye at all from some other different angle in the cosmos… but does that detract from its amazing beauty or from the joy it brings?.. of course not. Within every truth there are many lies and within every hell heaven abounds. Thank you DW for a very enjoyable hub! Cheers, Garry.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Garry Bannister:

Thank you so much for reading and your insightful comments. Truth is not just a point of truth. It is logic, and reality. You cannot say that because people believe in the tooth fairy, santa clause, or the honesty of politicians, that these are truths, when we all know that they are in fact total non-truths. Just believing in something blindly, with no foundation in logic, does not make it truth. Perhaps truth to that person, but not to be taught generation to generation with ongoing embellishments to suit the needs of the times, and pass this off as truth. Although, it is true that we all see things in a different way, you cannot argue with logic and scientific proof. I may be voicing one man's opinion, in the opinion of another man, but neither one should be taught as truth to the extent that religion uses for the sole purpose of control. This is just wrong in any point of view. Except of course to those perpetuating those fairtales.


Garry Bannister 5 years ago

I take your point. Certainly in relation to logic and science, then indeed all the major religions hold no water whatsoever. From a scientific point of view, evolution, albeit a theory, has a logic and honesty about it that cannot be said for those who would seek to explain the origins of life by reading the ancient texts in the book of Genesis. But truth, for me at any rate, is not about facts or logic. As Keats put it so well.. “Truth is beauty…” and what is beautiful has a truth beyond telling. Sometimes the facts seem to point to only one possible conclusion and yet our hearts contradict all our logical evidence. There are things that cannot be scientifically weighed or measured such as love, joy, distress, etc.. and although the Catholic Church has been the instigator of some of the worse crimes in the known history of humanity, it has also inspired a lot human beings to many of the greatest acts of humanity and selflessness. This is what I mean when I say that there is no separation between what is negative and positive. All phenomena are both medicine and poison, truth and untruth.. Surely whenever religion is no longer needed, it will disappear all by itself. I think there’s a simple logic in that observation. Many thanks. Cheers, Garry.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Garry Bannister:

Thanks again for you added insight. I have to agree with you for the most part, but my exception to the public being duped for political purposes, is still quite irritating and unsettling to me. As far as religion is concerned it would certainly be better for humanity, for it to go away quietly into the night, so that actual spirituality can take hold and grow. There can be many opportunities for the growth of humanitarian establishments to aide those in need, and provide the comraderie, that religious followers seem to require, without the commercialism of the current day religions. There is little, or not truth, to the religious aspects of those television preachers that only want to take your money.


Garry Bannister 5 years ago

I agree.


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wba108@yahoo.com 5 years ago from upstate, NY

I don't believe that our faith should be based on logic because faith requires believing before seeing, otherwise its not faith. Also if you regard the scriptures it says that the natural mind cannot comprehend the things of the spirit. Another words you can't understand God with logic alone He has to reveal Himself to you. That is called revelation.

You also mentioned truth and reality as the bases of faith. Now there again viewing truth and reality from a natural earthly perspective can be and often is directly opposed to the true reality in the Kingdom of God.

Jesus demonstrated this in many ways. On the Sermon on the Mount he said blessed are the poor, the meek, the mournful, the persecuted etc., this absolutely defied the logic of that culture. Jesus the messiah was supposed to be born king of the Jews, but he was born in a stable and crucified as a common criminal. Even his own followers strongly opposed his proclamations that he was to be crucified! It made no sense at all to them. Jesus miracles defied every semblance of common sense. For Instance the Jewish culture required great cleanliness in their religious rituals ie the washing of the hands the face, cleaning of eating utensils etc, yet Jesus spit into some dirt and rubbed it into the eyes of a blind man so he could see. He violated their precious sabbath in almost every miracle he preformed. He insulted and infuriated the religious leaders and refused to demonstrate a miracle in front of them? Nothing that He did made any sense!


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you for reading and your comments.

As i stated in the beginning of this article, i have no interest in trying to convert anyone away from their belief systems. I just speak the truth with logic.

One of the most effective methods of winning the minds of those who the original bible was earmarked for, was to instill a sense of fear of rejection of these 'teachings'. When the Roman state and the state's church declared their bible as a holy book, and stated that anyone who defied it was unholy, or heretic, it offered the validity that most people needed to accept this as truth.

Constantine was a politician. Well versed in how to control people through proclamations of validity that were backed up by the church, of his creation, as well. Blind faith in any organized religion is not logical for me. And yet, i do believe in a 'Creator' and the concepts of right and wrong. And yes, even that we will all return to our spiritual place from which we came. There were NO confirmed miracles ever preformed during the time of J.C. These were stories, made up, and verbally recounted over and over again, through several generations before they were finally reduced to writing about 300 years A.D. It is easy for us to accept that there is a "physical" adaptation to the Creator himself, but it is just a fairy tale, much like Santa Clause, and the Easter Bunny.

Good hearing from you and i certainly welcome and accept all comments as individually valid from their authors.


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Sharon Storm 5 years ago from Mid West

I enjoyed reading this hub though I don't believe what it offers as truth. It is well written and harmonious. You and those who have commented on this hub are truly gentlemen in every sense of the word. I liked the term "schussboomer". I take no umbrage. I suppose I must admit to being one. But I can still recognize civility...you my friend possess it. Since I am Christian please except my request for God's blessings in your life.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you for reading and your comments. They are also filled with kindness and civility. I appreciate that, most people are quite hateful in response to my articles. I am not anti - christian, just anti - organized religion that preaches gospel from one side of their mouth and hatred and bigoty from the other and all the while holding their hands out for money.


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Sharon Storm 5 years ago from Mid West

Amen brother...you and I both.


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upal19 5 years ago from Dhaka

In every religion there are things not related to logical or scientific. One thing is that many of us believe in a supreme power creator who has created all things. Nobody has seen that creator. No science can prove it that there is god. We can realize logically that there is a god. There are illogical things too in christianity. Believing in god is alright but believing in god's child is illogical. If jesus is god's child whatabout adam? Who are adam's parents? We are mortal so this is intelligent to be religious. But which religion to? Christianity only?


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BobbiRant 5 years ago from New York

I suppose 'miracles' would not be such if logic were applied, that is why they are viewed as miracles. This hub has much insight and I enjoyed reading it.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for visiting my hubpages and your comments. While we do not dispute the existence of a higher power, my contentions are that organized religions are just a contrived means of controlling others around us, and not always for altruistic reasons; and they dare to do it in the name of that higher power.

Belonging to a religious sect is NOT a requirement for anything in this life, or the next. Belief in a higher power is neither. Either way we are what we are, and we cannot change that by blind faith, or prayer, when after the prayer we continue to harm others around us, either physically, psychologically, emotionally, or verbally by speading hatred in the name of that higher power.

Humanity tries to have its cake, and eat it too. It is an impossible task, to say the least.


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Thanks for reading and commenting. It is always a pleasure to have you visit and offer your valued insight. I have never personally witnessed a miracle, and those who portend to have, probably (undoubtedly) have placed their own slant on what they actually did witnessed. The miracles of the bible are questionable due to the nature of how the bible was created and the reasons behind that creattion. Constantine was NOT a very holy man, or he probably would NOT have been a politician. LOL.


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katiem2 5 years ago from I'm outta here

Hmmmm, sounds like you've met face to face with true enlightenment, I know you know what this means, the truth is no one figure, nor church that need be the the thought process from which we are guided as it is said we are limited to do so ourselves, NOT!

Each of us has everything we need alone to stand alone and be united with the energy that orbits this universe be it positive or negative, our choice and therefore our direction and our end. Good read and much enjoyed. :) Katie


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Wow. Another enlightened soul. Good to know you are out there. Thank you so much for reading and commenting. That is what my article is based on, but there is no "organized" religion in this world that would admit that truth. They would surely lose their grip of fear, and perpetual money funnel.


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ImChemist 5 years ago

Thanks for sharing this great hub.


J.Riley 5 years ago

Your hub is especially apropos of the present climate in the U.S. where schools and education are being defunded by a fanatical group who dictate the subject matter being taught to our youth. There is still time to stop this madness but it must be done before they are more firmly embedded in our government, on school boards, city councils, etc. Students who have studied anthropology and history certainly understand how people who do not think about or question what they are told have always been controlled by those they perceive to be in power.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

J.Riley: Thank you so much for reading, and your comments. After much research, i discovered a couple of other facts of interest.

The word 'hell' for instance, had an original meaning of: 'an interval, interim pause, or an intervening time'. It was never meant to assert eternity. This is just another example of how changing one word can change an entire meaning. The word's meaning was changed to portray something more severe to frighten people into greater submission. It is difficult for me to understand the gullibility of people. Also, the word 'fornication' had an original meaning of simply 'prostitution'. Now look how it is twisted by today's crazy religious fanatics. It is truly frightening to realize just how ignorant people really are about the facts.


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create a page 5 years ago from Maryland, USA

D william, I came across your hub while hub hopping, and usually I would not comment, but I think I should. Your hub has raised some very interesting points, and I appreciate your writing style. My intention is not to bash you or anyone's beliefs, but I would like to simply share my experience.

I may not be able to prove the validity of Christianity, because I firmly believe that it's foundation is built purely on faith. How can anyone prove their faith which is based on believing in the unseen? I agree that as you stated there are people who claim to be Christians who have done much wrong. Perhaps these people are not really Christians, because there are many who claim to be who really are not. Hence, Christianity has received a bad reputation.

My final thought on this matter is that I would rather live my life as a Christian, believing that heaven and hell exists, than to die and find out that they do. It will be too late to change my mind at that point.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you so much for taking the time to read my hub and your thoughtful comments.

As i always state, i have never had any intentions of changing anyone's beliefs. I do believe however, that we, as consumers (even consumers of religious beliefs) have the right ot know the full story of exactly what it is that we were taught to believe in, by proxy (generational brainwashing techniques).

When any civilization is based solely on a religion that has been less than truthful, we must question that validity of our belief systems.

I certainly have no doubt there is a higher power, "God", if you will, or simply "the Creator".

The word "hell" had a simpler meaning of: "an intervening period" (a brief interval) or (an interim pause). The founders and perpetuaters of religion (religious teachings) chose to put their own slant on that term to extend the "punishment for your errors or grievances" to an 'eternity', strictly for the purpose of instilling greater fear, and therefor greater control, over their subjects.

This is just one small example of how modern day religion has been 'adapted' to suit the times, throughout our history.

Another fallacy of religious teachings is that "God hates homosexuals" as quoted by the religious zealots. We must realize that this term was not relevant back in the time of Jesus. It was declared a sin against the state, and the state's religion, because people did not recognize it as such, when they were told to not practice homosexuality in order to grow their armies faster.

Today, religion is so corrupt, and hatred is so prevalent, based on mis-teachings and ignorance, it seems like there is no end to this madness. Unfortunately your religion also teaches you that you cannot have any original thoughts of your own. If you doubt, or stop believing, or even question the doctrine they push as truth, you will be doomed to eternity of pain and suffering. Now, i ask you, do you truly believe that an all good, benevolent god would punish so severly for something that he himself has created? Do not fear your God, he is not demanding your unconditional devotion to him, you (we) are all just individual receptacles for the sum of the knowledge of our experiences that we encounter on this planet,

This is a necessity in order for a spiritual creator to even understand the concepts of "feelings" or "emotions" that only a vessel such as the human body can experience. Put your faith in God, and yourself, not in the false teachings of man.


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create a page 5 years ago from Maryland, USA

D.william if I offered you a gift of one million dollars, you could choose to do with it as you like, and of course you never had to repay me, the only criteria is that you accept it within a certain time frame. Would you accept it? It would be great if you did. However, if you refused to receive it in the time allowed, and soon after you lost your job, your car and all your possessions. In essence, you became a homeless pauper, should I be blamed for your fate?

This is what God has done. He gave us a free will and the choice to have eternal life with Him. Unfortunately some refuse to believe and to accept Him. Consequently, they spend eternity without Him. It is not His desire for them to suffer, but their choice determined their destiny.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

First i must say, yes, i WILL accept the million dollars !! LOL.

But, seriously, your perception of the Creator is limited by the information you have received from your religious dictators. MY God, is, as we all should be, in a constant state of flux, with learning and the acquiring of information, and the broadening of intelligence as the basis for our existence. I do not, nor have i ever, believed that a Creator with an intelligence so far beyond our limited capabilities to comprehend, would waste valuable resources with recruitment, discipline, and the demand for honor and loyalty. The are 'human' disorders, frailties and weaknesses.

Our religion has falsely taught us that our Creator is a dictator, no better than Moammar Ghadafi in Libya.

We are all part of the whole Creation process, and therefor, are individually incapable of upsetting that plan. We are only a part of it. It may be true that our actions on this plane will determine the next step in our own evolution, but an eternity without him? I doubt that very much. Everything that happens on this planet is undoubtedly part of the cosmic plan, and in the big picture, what we experience and learn here, will only strengthen the rewards in our journey back to whence we came. Fear serves no purpose, along with guilt and subservience. They are obstacles in our intended growth, both intellectually and spiritually.


pituka 4 years ago

Great article!!!Fiat lux!!!


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

pituka:

Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment. Odd that you should use the term: Fiat Lux. Do you suppose when God said "Let there be light" that it was meant metaphorically and not literally? Or perhaps both? Man is so one dimensional in thought, that the possibility of the "turning on of the light" of the mind was too complicated a concept to comprehend - and still is today.


joseph 4 years ago

So.Much.BIAS!!

The bible was written by man, but christians believe that it was inspired by God.

The bible was assembled by man, and christians believe that was inspired by God as well.

If God is a sovereign God why couldn't the bible be correct even with the human interaction?

Is that not a possibility?

And yeah, the roman catholic thing was screwed up. No where in the bible is the heirarchy system they set up justified. For the longest time they blindfolded everybody, telling them whatever they wanted and not letting them read what the bible actually says, ordering that the bible couldn't be printed in any language but latin.

But that's why the Protestant church was established.

the "salvation of man" thing that would have rendered the church useless back in the day, is the fire of the modern church, and is taught at your local protestant church.

"How will you handle this new truth?"

i like how you wrote your conclusion like nobody ever knew the history of the bible.

you don't know everything!! :o

but hey, neither do I!! :D

Opinions change, but don't act like you've come up with a brand new opinion just because its new to you, don't pretend like all other opinions are stupid and ignorant.

And I'll try my best not to be a hypocrite.

:D,

Joseph


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Joseph:

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.

As i said in the beginning, my intent is not to change anyone's beliefs. Such "religious" beliefs are securely ingrained into the child's mind by constant bombardment from birth to death. Starting long before the age of reasoning. This is known as brain washing and should be considered child abuse at its worst.

Telling fairytale stories, and promises of punishment for disbelieving does not the truth make. If you tell a lie often enough, to enough people, it becomes accepted as truth.

I certainly do not ever profess to know everything, but i do know that there is no one entity looking down upon us, making judgments, doling out punishments for attempts at rationalizing its existence. An existence that no man can verify either by personal visual contact, or by word of mouth.

Everything ever written is inspired by some kind of spiritual influence, but the bible was not written with the intent of it being a "holy" book. The 'holy' part was declared so by the Roman Government and its creation - the Roman Catholic Church - both steeped in hedonism and corruption.

History tells us how it came into being, who created it with the writings of others, and why.

When we talk about blind faith - it is just that: blind. Blind to truth, without empirical proof, and cemented with fear and guilt for one purpose - to control the lives of others.

MY opinions are based on historical facts and rational discernment which cannot be said of people of blind faith.

Ignorance has many levels, and not all levels are insulting. If one chooses to maintain their beliefs and ignore the facts, then that is a personal choice. I choose not to be part of that community and live in peace and harmony with the world, with our creators, and with people who know how to think for themselves.

Truths that arise from within ones mind and intellect are to be respected. Truth that arise solely from indoctrination and brainwashing is to be pitied.


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d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

"Truth" is relative: The truth of science wants absolute, empirical evidence. Law wants 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.

History wants a reasonable assertion (the former negative, latter positive).

Religion's truth is an emotional state called faith.

All are true.

You cannot substitute one definition for another and conduct a logical argument. If you try that, you are guilty of equivocation--that is failing to stipulate a definition and then sticking to it.

'Family values' is a good example.

Hate is a family value. Yet lots of illogical, emotional, no-minds, love to toss that term out as a rationale for denying basic human rights to homosexuals and women.

Religion and philosophy (they are synonymous) operate on feelings, emotions, ideas, as the ancient Greeks had it.

If "Christians" were actually Christians, they would obey the Golden Rule: do unto others, etc. A fabulous philosophy and one that would truly change the world if the self-proclaimed Christians actually followed it.

The New Testament consists of the four Gospels -- each one has an identified author, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Each tells the story of Christ's life with a different slant, tone, bias, whatever you want to call it.

And they were written after the death of Christ, but only by a few decades, not hundreds of years.

Most of the rest of the books of the NT were written by Paul, a flaming misogynist and Tea Bagger originale.

The Old Testament does not figure into Christianity if one is a purist about it.

Have you read Elaine Pagels' The Gnostic Gospels? or The Gospel of Judas? I highly recommend both along with the Apocrypha or so-called Hidden Books of the Bible.

Old Testament stuff left out by the ancient politicians you mention in your article--but that gets into the Hebrew side of it, which is significantly different and much much older.

Christianity has a well recorded history if anyone were willing to actually read it.

History is constantly being rewritten--it is called historiography--it is how women finally got into the history books along with Indians, Blacks, and so on.

Much about Christianity is brutal, obscene, and makes Hitler seem rather restrained in his genocide practices. He admired the way white Americans of European descent Satanized the Indians and systematically annihilated them throughout the entire western hemisphere.

Do you know about the big brouhaha in the Middle Ages regarding the cult of Mary?

The worship of Holy Mother and Son was outstripping the worship of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost--largely because the worship of Isis and other Mother Goddesses and their sons were by far and away the most popular pagan forms of worship from time immemorial--folks latched onto Mary following the old traditions of spirituality.

Ever notice how many thousands of cathedrals called Notre Dame there are?

Predictably, the Church (Catholic at that time, but it included the Eastern Orthodox version too) launched a campaign to make Jesus the rock star, and through coercion, mashing and bashing of women, hate campaigns against anyone ever so slightly out of alignment with the prescribed and most powerful governing force: Christianity aka the good old boys/priests/bishops/archbishops/cardinals/popes/and all the regular clergy such as friars, monks, abbots and the stray abbotess, had their way.

So there is truly not one new thing about the ways the Christian right has insinuated itself into power again.

I would go so far as to say the single most abused and misused religion ever invented by humankind is Christianity. The irony rests in its truly wonderful and sensible premise: the Golden Rule. Which no blabbermouth self-identified Christian I have ever known has ever practiced.

The only true Christians I could name are those who quietly practice what Jesus did--pay your taxes, stay out of politics as far as possible, turn the other cheek, but when the time comes to make a sacrifice, be prepared for the worst.

It is also interesting that it was his "father" who demanded the sacrifice, not his mother.

In the older, non Judaeo-Christian religions, sky/father gods always feared the sons who would overthrow them. It was always the mother/earth goddesses who helped the sons destroy the evil father gods and restore harmony and justice to humans.

Have you ever studied/read about the Greek, Dionysius?

His life, which predates Christ's by millenia, foregrounds Christ's. Very parallel hero pattern, even includes the miracles of water to wine and walking on water. Dionysius (Roman Bacchus) was a harvest god--wine--and a god of dualities--had strong masculine and feminine characteristics--combined calm and healing with frenzy and destruction: like when you drink--a little is fine and calming, too much and you lose your mind.

Anyway, check him out. But use a good source that tells it all, not the whitewashed Christian propaganda version that turns all Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Muslim, Celtic, Germanic, Eastern religions into silly nonsense believed by substandard, non thinking peoples who were/are inferior to all white Christians.

Some of America's "best" Christians kept slaves, for God's sake!! and their ever-lovin' descendants cannot abide a black (even a half black) man in the Oval Office.

I did not put this on your hub because I am not a member. Should I sign up? does it cost money? will I get more junk in my email? I terminated the yahoo account because of copious spam messages.

While it is all well and good to make "apology" to the sensitivities of so-called christians who might take offense (which none appear to have done) to what you say, I think you should continue with the strand of abuse of religion.

What about the goons (Phelps I think) from Kansas who just had the backing of the Supreme Court to continue attacking the families of dead soldiers at funerals where they wave their hate signs and scream while the mourners try to bury their dead children?

THAT is Christian???

Or the Beck/Palin/Limbaugh/Fox propaganda/infotainer machine that appeals to so-called christians?

Talk about hate-monger, KKK, anti-human rights proponents! No where in the Gospels does Jesus advocate anti- homosexual terrorism, or any other form of terrorism that is perpetually leveled against women, the elderly, the very young, and the most vulnerable in this country--all under the most recent smoke screen of "improving the economy."

The axis of evil is alive and well and has fully assumed the face of Christianity.

And now thinking people, as you point out, reject the religion because it has morphed into a political tool that is addicted to power, and power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely, and that is what is happening right now with the Koch funded Tea Baggers seating governors, filling legislative seats and fiddling with the strings of local school boards across the country.

I gotta quit thinking about this shit. gets my blood pressure up.


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d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

"Truth" is relative: The truth of science wants absolute, empirical evidence. Law wants 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.

History wants a reasonable assertion (the former negative, latter positive).

Religion's truth is an emotional state called faith.

All are true.

You cannot substitute one definition for another and conduct a logical argument. If you try that, you are guilty of equivocation--that is failing to stipulate a definition and then sticking to it.

'Family values' is a good example.

Hate is a family value. Yet lots of illogical, emotional, no-minds, love to toss that term out as a rationale for denying basic human rights to homosexuals and women.

Religion and philosophy (they are synonymous) operate on feelings, emotions, ideas, as the ancient Greeks had it.

If "Christians" were actually Christians, they would obey the Golden Rule: do unto others, etc. A fabulous philosophy and one that would truly change the world if the self-proclaimed Christians actually followed it.

The New Testament consists of the four Gospels -- each one has an identified author, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Each tells the story of Christ's life with a different slant, tone, bias, whatever you want to call it.

And they were written after the death of Christ, but only by a few decades, not hundreds of years.

Most of the rest of the books of the NT were written by Paul, a flaming misogynist and Tea Bagger originale.

The Old Testament does not figure into Christianity if one is a purist about it.

Have you read Elaine Pagels' The Gnostic Gospels? or The Gospel of Judas? I highly recommend both along with the Apocrypha or so-called Hidden Books of the Bible.

Old Testament stuff left out by the ancient politicians you mention in your article--but that gets into the Hebrew side of it, which is significantly different and much much older.

Christianity has a well recorded history if anyone were willing to actually read it.

History is constantly being rewritten--it is called historiography--it is how women finally got into the history books along with Indians, Blacks, and so on.

Much about Christianity is brutal, obscene, and makes Hitler seem rather restrained in his genocide practices. He admired the way white Americans of European descent Satanized the Indians and systematically annihilated them throughout the entire western hemisphere.

Do you know about the big brouhaha in the Middle Ages regarding the cult of Mary?

The worship of Holy Mother and Son was outstripping the worship of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost--largely because the worship of Isis and other Mother Goddesses and their sons were by far and away the most popular pagan forms of worship from time immemorial--folks latched onto Mary following the old traditions of spirituality.

Ever notice how many thousands of cathedrals called Notre Dame there are?

Predictably, the Church (Catholic at that time, but it included the Eastern Orthodox version too) launched a campaign to make Jesus the rock star, and through coercion, mashing and bashing of women, hate campaigns against anyone ever so slightly out of alignment with the prescribed and most powerful governing force: Christianity aka the good old boys/priests/bishops/archbishops/cardinals/popes/and all the regular clergy such as friars, monks, abbots and the stray abbotess, had their way.

So there is truly not one new thing about the ways the Christian right has insinuated itself into power again.

I would go so far as to say the single most abused and misused religion ever invented by humankind is Christianity. The irony rests in its truly wonderful and sensible premise: the Golden Rule. Which no blabbermouth self-identified Christian I have ever known has ever practiced.

The only true Christians I could name are those who quietly practice what Jesus did--pay your taxes, stay out of politics as far as possible, turn the other cheek, but when the time comes to make a sacrifice, be prepared for the worst.

It is also interesting that it was his "father" who demanded the sacrifice, not his mother.

In the older, non Judaeo-Christian religions, sky/father gods always feared the sons who would overthrow them. It was always the mother/earth goddesses who helped the sons destroy the evil father gods and restore harmony and justice to humans.

Have you ever studied/read about the Greek, Dionysius?

His life, which predates Christ's by millenia, foregrounds Christ's. Very parallel hero pattern, even includes the miracles of water to wine and walking on water. Dionysius (Roman Bacchus) was a harvest god--wine--and a god of dualities--had strong masculine and feminine characteristics--combined calm and healing with frenzy and destruction: like when you drink--a little is fine and calming, too much and you lose your mind.

Anyway, check him out. But use a good source that tells it all, not the whitewashed Christian propaganda version that turns all Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Muslim, Celtic, Germanic, Eastern religions into silly nonsense believed by substandard, non thinking peoples who were/are inferior to all white Christians.

Some of America's "best" Christians kept slaves, for God's sake!! and their ever-lovin' descendants cannot abide a black (even a half black) man in the Oval Office.

I did not put this on your hub because I am not a member. Should I sign up? does it cost money? will I get more junk in my email? I terminated the yahoo account because of copious spam messages.

While it is all well and good to make "apology" to the sensitivities of so-called christians who might take offense (which none appear to have done) to what you say, I think you should continue with the strand of abuse of religion.

What about the goons (Phelps I think) from Kansas who just had the backing of the Supreme Court to continue attacking the families of dead soldiers at funerals where they wave their hate signs and scream while the mourners try to bury their dead children?

THAT is Christian???

Or the Beck/Palin/Limbaugh/Fox propaganda/infotainer machine that appeals to so-called christians?

Talk about hate-monger, KKK, anti-human rights proponents! No where in the Gospels does Jesus advocate anti- homosexual terrorism, or any other form of terrorism that is perpetually leveled against women, the elderly, the very young, and the most vulnerable in this country--all under the most recent smoke screen of "improving the economy."

The axis of evil is alive and well and has fully assumed the face of Christianity.

And now thinking people, as you point out, reject the religion because it has morphed into a political tool that is addicted to power, and power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely, and that is what is happening right now with the Koch funded Tea Baggers seating governors, filling legislative seats and fiddling with the strings of local school boards across the country.

I gotta quit thinking about this shit. gets my blood pressure up.


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d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

The following 10 comments and replies are transferred from a deleted hub in response to the above comments

1. from AlexK2009 2 years ago

This resonates with me but ALL religions have the negative traits this email mentions. I tend to the view that any religion inevitably tends to fascism as it moves from spirituality to political power. Christianity deserves what you say about it but do not let other religions get a free ride because of it.

from d.william 2 years ago to AlexK2009

Thanks for reading and your comments. And yes, i do agree with you that all religions are the same, but i tend to address Christianity by itself since it is the basis for all that there is in the USA. In this day and age, it is still astonishing to me that any nation as large and supposedly sophisticated, civilized and (current with the times?) still runs itself based on such bias, hatred and ignorance. Hence, the premise of separation of church and state, should be emphatically impressed, and adhered to.

2. from: Minnetonka Twin 2 years ago.

Wow, God bless your niece for having the courage to have her say on your hub. She does sound incredibly intelligent and quite educated on this topic. Thanks for sharing this with us.

from: d.william 2 years ago to Minnetonka+Twin:

Thank you for reading and commenting. Always a pleasure to see you.

3. from Spirit Whisperer 2 years ago

Another great hub. Everything you said in your hub is valid and your niece rightly bears this out. My only criticism would be of you ever doubting yourself. You are a great soul and your words of wisdom come from within from the source of absolute truth shared by all of us even those you imagine you are bashing. I look forward to your posts so please keep them coming. Voted up and awesome. I hope your niece will now join you on HubPages.

from: d.william 2 years ago to Spirit+Whisperer

Thanks again for you support and kind words. I don't really doubt myself (he says without pride or arrogance) but it is the only way i can get my gifted niece to weigh in on any subject. She tends to be on the side lines, and will only respond if i make her feel i may be faltering or floundering. (I can say this on here, because she will not be reading it, i am sure, so my secret strategy is safe - LOL.)

4. from kashmir56 2 years ago

Hi d.william, I think your niece should write on Hubpages . Awesome and vote up !!!

from d.william 2 years ago to kashmir56

Thanks, so do i. She has a big, big life and does not have the time to diversify further. Perhaps one day, when she slows down, we can only hope.

5. from: always exploring 2 years ago

I will never understand why some hate people who are different and still call themselves Christan. To me, God is love. If we follow The Golden Rule and leave judgement up to God, then we are content in our knowledge that God rules the universe. No human is perfect, but when we have love for all mankind, then we are living the life that God intended. Thank you for a very insightful hub.

from d.william 2 years ago to: always+exploring

Always a pleasure to hear from you and your words of encouragement. Thanks for stopping by.

And you are correct, of course, when you say that God rules the universe. People need to understand the truth in that statement and stop believing that religion is God.

6. from crystolite 2 years ago

Self explanatory article thanks for sharing

from d.william 2 years ago to crystolite

Thanks for reading.

7. from Vancouver Web Design 2 years ago

First Religion is Philosophy, many philosophers actually base their life work contradicting Religion, for instance Nietzsche, who dedicated his life fighting Cristian ghosts from his childhood.

8. from Lady Summerset 15 months ago

Greetings, In reading your hub I understand your point of view. However to blanket or classify all Christians in this light is not valid. There are those of us who walk, work, and eat with those of other religions and philosophy and maintain healthy and vibrant relationships.

Respect of our differences is a platform on which we can build. Love has to be the emotion that moves us to common ground.

from d.william 15 months agoto lady summerset

Thank you for reading and commenting. This hub was a response to my original hub entitled: " .. Questioning Christianity......" It has been revised to read: "Questioning All organized religions.....". The reason for the original name was that Christians boast about being the majority in this country and their laws should rule for everyone. Upon realizing that all religions have the same philosophy, i did alter that title to reflect this truth.

While i do agree with you that there is much good being done through organized churches, these aspects are not questionable. What IS questionable is the perpetuation of hatred and intolerance from generation to generation based on ignorance, misinformation or total lack of appropriate information and intellect.

The stopping of ignorance, hatred, bigotry and intolerance must first come from the point of origin. And that origin is the perpetual passing down of these negative and harmful aspects in our society, and having the gall to state it is God's will. It is in fact man's will, so continuing this lie is not only sinful in itself it is extremely harmful to a society trying to just survive in a world already so filled with hate and mistrust and self serving.

Frankly, i do not care what religions do to themselves, but i do care about the rest of us who want no part of this bigotry and hatred. They are imposing their wills on the rest of us, and that is unacceptable.

9. dein Lady Summerset 15 months ago

My best response to your last comment is: "Be the change in the world, that you desire to see"-paraphased - by Ghandi Again, making blanket statements that may apply to a group in any religion is not valid. Valid information should be supplied in support of your assertions. This approach, to me, is not conducive to any peaceful end.

from d.william 15 months ago to lady summerset

Thanks for you additional comments. Although your perception is that of a blanket statement, you must admit that religions in general promote hatred, intolerance and bigotry, by their insistence that creatures of god can somehow be evil. God does not make mistakes, man does. God wrote nothing of judging one another. All holy books were written by man, and although their followers insist that they are "inspired by god", they are still written by man, and there is no absolute proof that god had anything to do with it, except by the words of the authors themselves.

When we preach love and practice hatred, this is not very godly at all.

can you give ME valid information that what i say is incorrect? Quoting from the very book that is in itself questionable, does not make for much validity.

Your truth may be different than others, so which truth is the absolute truth? Everything is a matter of conjecture, but teaching hatred, bigotry and intolerance is certainly not anyone's imagination. All one has to do is pick up any holy book and read those words of hatred and intolerance.

I cannot believe that any God worth his weight in salt, would condone this negativism that man spews forth in his name.

10. from Lady Summerset 15 months ago

What hatred are you talking about? As Christians, the only point that I can validly speak from, I don't hear hatred or bigotry, or intolerance preached. Yes, my truth is different from the person I sit on the train with but does that give that person the right to classify what I believe in to be evil? Your comments should be "clear" as to what hatred, bigotry, or intolerance is being taught and supported by facts. Otherwise, I find your position intentionally devisive.

from d.william 15 months ago to lady-summerset

Thanks for you comments. The truths are self evident when you listen to the news and how religious teachings influence decisions by government, and people in general, to discriminate against a particular group of people that are a vital part of the whole community that makes up our national family.

Religions teach hatred of the homosexual population based on ignorance and fal

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