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Why I Quit The Roman Catholic Church and why Others Should Consider it as well.

Updated on June 19, 2017

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Detrimental to a healthy society

Religion remains one of the biggest banes to a civilized society.

Its base premises are:

  • control via brain washing,
  • promoting fear
  • promoting guilt,
  • aintaining divisiveness.

Like a cancer within the global body, it will continue to spread its tentacles until it kills its host.

Our dangerous country roots

My family, as well as many American families, was brought up in a small christian community in in rural suburbia. But these attributes are not limited to one particular area of the country. They are the rudimentary fundamentals that all 'religious' family units are founded on around the world.

Father was not religious, but encouraged all of us to attend church services with mother.

The teachings were strict and frightening to the children. It seems that everything was a sin in the eyes of God - according to the old priest who served our parish.

Catechism classes were an exercise in terror. You were not to look at your own "private parts", even while bathing, and you were never to touch yourselves there. Every time i bathed i thought i was committing a sin against god himself. And yet we were taught that cleanliness was next to godliness. Confusing, to say the least, to young minds.

As we grew into puberty and those "ungodly" changes (urges) were occurring, the old priest would say - "thinking about it (sex) is as bad as doing it - just as big a sin in god's eyes". Wow. Reflecting back on those days still gives me pause.

Recalling my first erection and ejaculation - what should have been an enlightening and enjoyable experience was extremely disconcerting. After all, that old priest said (and he read it out load from the bible) during one of our indoctrinating (brainwashing) catechism classes about the "sin of masturbation" (of course the boys were segregated from the girls) that - "spilling your seed onto the ground would be a direct path to god's wrath and lead straight to hell".

So, needless to say, my first time, along with the pleasurable excitement, i cringed and awaited that bolt of lightning that the old priest promised would surely strike me dead.

The wrath of the church

My first real glimpse of the absurdity of the "teachings" of that old priest was when my sister became engaged to a young man who was "baptist" and brought the wrath of the Roman Catholic Church down on my family with full force.

When the priest found out, he came to our house to speak to the parents of this errant child. He found my mother and myself the only ones at home and proceeded to spout on about this upcoming event. This was a 'gravely mortal sin' against God and the church and if the family allowed it to happen we would all pay the consequences.

Besides being condemned to burn in hell fire for eternity, we would be excommunicated from the church (like this was worse that burning in hell fire for eternity).

I recall my anger, as he was loudly chastising my mother, and i was compelled to intervene by telling him to stop.

He turned on me and said if i condone this sinful marriage i would pay for it along with my sister.

That is when i told him he had no right o speak to my mother, or anyone else in this manner, and to get out of our house. And, i then warned him that if he ever came back on our property, i would personally kick his ass all the way back to the hell hole he crawled out of. (I was 19 years old and had not learned the art of diplomacy as yet - and some say i still haven't, even in my elder years) - L.O.L

Losing my religion

I never attended another Roman Catholic mass again after that. Even though my friends told me he preached his next several Sunday sermons using my family as his sermon's sinful fodder, i did restrain myself from going to the church to confront him. The only reason i did not, was i knew the consequences for doing it was not worth the simple pleasure of the act itself.

That incident at our house was the culmination of lesser events that made me question what that church (or any other church) stood for.

Here a few examples of those 'other' events that led me to my current conclusions:

  • 1. All the while the priest was preaching about adultery and fornication he was "boinking" his 'housekeeper' that he had for years. His own private concubine.
  • 2. Preaching for years, hearing confessions, and giving absolution for the "mortal sin" of eating meat of Fridays. Then suddenly the "Holy (blind) See" in Rome, made a declaration that eating meat on Friday was no longer a sin! Upon further investigation i discovered why the church originally declared 'eating meat' on Friday a sin in the first place:: the main livelihood back in those days (of Christ AD) was fishing, and people were tending toward eating meat 7 days a week. So to assist the fisherman's business enterprise the church declared Friday as 'fish day'. When people did not heed the Pope's demands, he then made it a "sin" to eat meat on Friday. I also find this attitude of "putting yourself at the level of god' quite distasteful.
  • 3. Back in the days of my childhood i remember the priest making his "annual visit" to every household in his parish to collect the 'annual dues'. We were poor people and my parents struggled at times to provide us with 3 meals a day. Some meals were scant, but there was always something to feed us kids. I remember on one occasion on his annual visit, my mother told the priest she could not give anything at this time but if he would leave the money envelope, she would return it with the 'annual dues' on Sunday during the routine Sunday "passing of the plate" ritual during mass. He willfully reminded her that having so many mouths to feed was her own doing and not paying annual fees or weekly donations during mass could jeopardize her "salvation" after death. It took me till years later to realize we were 'paying our way to heaven". Like the mafia taking money to protect you against crime. Oh, what a greedy god we were being forced to worship!
  • 4. After years of listening to how god hates homosexuals i discovered two things:
    A.) that the passages in the bible referring to this phenomenon was added by the "Roman" Catholic church many years after the death of Jesus, because they needed to build their armies to kill off their rivals. In those days homosexuality was not viewed as 'sinful' and when the government's church mandated men must sleep only with women to build their armies, and people paid no attention to this mandate, they made it a law. Because the armies (male birth rates) were not rising fast enough they then declared this practice a sin against god (like the eating meat of Friday thing). So the hatred began. B.) After many years of falsely preaching god's hatred against homosexuality, condemning all who practiced it to hell for eternity, the facts came out about how the priests were molesting young boys for years. They were not condemned to hell for eternity, but rather simply moved to another parish and told to not do it anymore. And this practice of sweeping the "sins" of their priests under the rug is still rampant today.

Although the "essence" of "Christianity" is (or should be) basic goodness, it should not be taught as a precept to gaining a secured seat into heaven.

Basic goodness should be taught to all as a positive aspect of our society, not solely attributed to religious teachings.

These basic concept of goodness, love, compassion, empathy, and sharing, should be taught as an essential to the survival of our species. These attributes must not be claimed as something spiritual or belonging to any religious group.

Learning to live in peace and harmony

To live in peace and harmony is NOT a 'religious' concept.

It is humanity at its best.

By connecting this basic concept to religions that run on greed, control, intolerance and hatred, it undermines the true meaning of our living life in peace and harmony with nature and each other.

And as a consequence, negates its validity. I suppose this is reason enough for the negative concepts of greed and selfishness to take hold in our society, as a result, instead.

When we grow, develop, and evolve as as species, we hopefully become self-aware; learn how to think for ourselves, and learn abstract concepts.

With this evolution of awareness most intelligent people also ultimately learn to discard the negative teachings of religion. We learn to group together and discard all those negative subconscious things we were taught, as delusional superstitious lies and separate them from reality and truth

Corrupted religions

The Papacy (the system of government of the roman catholic church of which the pope is the supreme head that purportedly gets his messages for the people directly from God) is as corrupt as all other forms of government.

Probably more so, because they are doing their corrupt business in the name of our "creator" thus giving the delusion that somehow it is more valid.

Seeing the Papal decree condemning Chile for legalizing same sex marriages has only deepened my disdain for this corruption.

Condoning pedophilia by attribution; and condemning homosexuality for the same basic unrealistic 'rationalization' {as the eating of fish on Fridays farce} is an absurdity that the ignorance of the laity cannot yet, or will not, or simply refuse to, grasp.

Writing into the 'Holy scripture' that an act of mother nature is sinful does not make it so.

All it does is falsely promote hatred and bigotry in the name of the creator.

Now the Papacy is taking upon itself to negotiate peace in the middle east with the likes of Iran!!? This pair shares the same agenda. Both want to see Israel destroyed - the Jewish faith is an enemy of both the Papacy and Iran (Muslim) for obvious reasons.

Bringing to real life the saying that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."

With this being said, there is no reason to not hold the belief that once this unholy pair destroys the Jewish faith, Iran [along with all the other countries promoting Muslim beliefs] will thrust its dagger into the heart of the' Christian' presence in the middle east.

Thus fulfilling their prophecy of ridding the middle east of the infidels once and for all.

And yet, we humans still deny that religion is a negative influence of our global society.

How sad.

by: d.william 12/13/10

Hell is just an invention of the church

Are Christians/Mormons/Muslims/Jews ALL delusional?

Just don't do it


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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      Thanks for adding your comments. It does truly sadden me when any religion condemns others for beliefs other than those they were indoctrinated into. That is why i also believe that children should never be subjected to this type of brainwashing. It puts an indelible imprint on the brain that can never be fully erased. I find this emotionally abusive and wrong on so many levels.

      It robs the children of making their own intelligent and informed decisions about the meaning of life.

      We can see how damaging this is when we see our politicians spouting passages from their bibles when trying to justify inequality and injustices in this world.

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      It saddens me deeply when there are people that are so blind to anything but their respective religions.

      The bible, and the believe that there ever was a son of God born onto this planet, is a fairy tale perpetuated by the ancient Roman Government. This tale was passed down for hundreds of years and passed off as fact to the point of mass insanity, or mass hysteria. There is an old saying that when a man tells the same lie often enough he begins to believe it as truth.

      I do not fault you for your beliefs. I fault the false need for a belief in an institution that has duped millions of people through the past 2,000 years.

      When you say there is only one true God, you are doing a disservice to all people of faith, by implying that Christians worship a different God than everyone else. When the fact of the matter is - you are correct in there is only one true God - but incorrect when you see that God only belonging to the Catholic faith.

      We are all God's children, and God does not throw any of his creations to the wind because they are not of your particular faith.

      You need to learn more about Jesus and his beliefs, before judging others by words written by men with an agenda.

      Jesus was a Gnostic who believed that man communes directly with God - not through a middle man, or an institution that values material things more than the salvation of goodness and love.

      After J.C. was put to death the Gnostic view was still prevalent among the Apostles. It was the Roman Government that condemned the faith of Jesus, and made him the object of worship.

      I know you have no interest in anyone else's views other than what you were brainwashed to believe as a child, but here is an article I wrote on the life of Jesus, the man. You will not burn in hell for reading it, nor will you be turned to stone, or struck by evil forces. Those too are manifestations of a superstitious mind(s) from thousands of years in our past.

      It does not matter to me what your beliefs are, but it is my mission to bring forth reality, logic and faith in a God that loves all of his children - not just those who follow one faith blindly.

      No-one should worship another man as God. For we are ALL God's children whether your like that idea or not. And we have no right condemning others by our own standards.

      I wish you love and peace in your heart, for it is all that really matters on this plane of existence.

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      Kenneth Avery 3 years ago


      Truer words were never said in comment above. Amen, brother.

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      TSAD 3 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      Well at least you are willing to listen to and allow the other side to be heard - so often on hubpages I have found that people with similar points of view to yours cannot stand to hear the truth and delete comments that disagree with them.

      I must point out however that your reply to my comment demonstrates you have not gotten my point. For example nothing I said can be interpreted as "Catholicism is only the true religion to Christians." and your comment "By virtue of one sect believing that they are the one true religion does not make it so." has nothing to do with anything I said. You have missed the point entirely which is neither Catholicism nor any other religion is a true religion. True Christianity is the product of inviting Jesus into your heart, accepting that you are a sinner and repenting from your sin so that you may accept salvation from the consequence of your sin, which was provided when Jesus, the only son of God and sinless paid your debt. It is a relationship with God your creator and your walk with him, your devotion to his word. You are changed when you invite the holy spirit to dwell within you and this is not any man made institution. You have totally ignored the point I was making and reverted to again embrace your condemnation of Catholicism as if it is Christianity demonstrating that you are blind, incapable of recognizing and understanding the Gospel of the Bible and I can say this because it is the direct consequence of denial of the one true God as stated in the Bible: "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper..." I fear this is where you are at because the notions you espouse like 'There are many paths that lead to "salvation" are straight from the pit of hell.

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      Thank you so much for reading and your thoughtful comments.

      But by your comments themselves you make my point. Catholicism is only the true religion to Christians. By virtue of one sect believing that they are the one true religion does not make it so.

      And quoting from a book that one disbelieves in does not a convincing argument make. You can quote from any book of religion to make a case for that particular religion, but by doing so, you are making a biased statement that only the followers of any particular religion can believe as truth.

      'There are many paths that lead to "salvation" if you like to use that word; and they are all valid as one to the other in the eyes of the believers of any particular religion.

      I certainly believe in a higher power, for logic tells me that it must be so, when we see all the wonders of the universe and the wondrous beauties of this very planet we live on.

      Certainly anyone has the right to believe in whatever they choose, but to consider what one believes to be the ultimate truth is human arrogance at its best.

      Logic also dictates that Christianity being the religion of only a portion of the earth's inhabitants can not be the true religion, nor the only path to salvation.

      Non Christians who live a life of goodness, filled with love and compassion for others, who are non judgemental, etc....., surely have as much right to whatever happiness and peace after death as the Christians do.

      So, yes, your religion is probably the only true path for you to follow, but certainly not for others who follow a different road to the same end.

      My contention is that NO religion is worth the price one has to pay in the form of putting others down, hating those who are different, or daring to question the status quo simply because the religious leaders tell them that is the righteous thing to do. For it certainly is not.

      Again, thank you for your input to this article, it has merit as well as those who oppose this point of view. For we are all entitled to believe what we do, and should not be judged for doing so.

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      TSAD 3 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      D. Williams, it is no surprise to see your reaction to Catholicism and "religion" in general. And it is no surprise to anyone who understands that humans are a fallen race in a fallen world, sinful to the bone, born hypocrites and prone to carry that baggage into anything they do no matter how well intentioned or even inspired by God it is. The apostles themselves were living examples of ordinary flawed human beings falling short of their callings on many occasions.

      But this is not evidence that there is no God, that Christianity isn't real and isn't God's way of reaching down to man while man's "religions" are the opposite, sinful man reaching up to God. Yes you can lump all "religions" together as the bane of civilization and I'd agree they are (for they deny the truth of the Bible) and some in the name of Christianity.

      However Christianity, true Christianity cannot be lumped in with all "religion" and is the only true faith on earth. Matt Slick President and Founder of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry says it best :

      Christianity is the one true religion. That may sound awfully dogmatic and narrow-minded, but the simple truth is that Christianity is the only true religion. Jesus said that He alone was the way to the Father (John 14:6)--that He alone revealed the Father (Matt. 11:27; Luke 10:22). Christians do not go around saying Christianity is the only way because they are arrogant, narrow-minded, stupid, and judgmental. They do so because they believe what Jesus said. They believe in Jesus, who claimed to be God (John 8:58; Exodus 3:14), who forgave sins (Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48), and who rose from the dead (Luke 24:24-29; John 2:19f). Jesus said that He was the only way. Jesus is unique. He was either telling the truth, He was crazy, or He was a liar. But since everyone agrees that Jesus was a good man, how then could He be both good and crazy or good and a liar? He had to be telling the truth. He is the only way.

      Christianity is not just a religion; it is a relationship with God. It is a trusting in Jesus and what He did on the cross (1 Cor. 15:1-4)--not on what you can do for yourself (Ephesians 2:8-9).

      Buddha didn't rise from the dead nor did Confucius or Zoroaster. Muhammad didn't fulfill detailed prophecy. Alexander the Great didn't raise the dead or heal the sick. And though there is far less reliable information written about them, people believed in them.

      The scripture is right when it says in 1 Pet. 2:7-8, "This precious value, then, is for you who believe. But for those who disbelieve, 'The stone which the builders rejected, this became the very corner stone,' and, 'A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense'; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed." (NASB).

      I know you will be prone to reject what is said as just more propaganda but I urge you, instead of being consumed by bitterness caused by your past experiences look at them as lessons learned on your path to truth and the knowledge of His saving grace. Your journey has not ended but has only just begun and, though you might feel you've given up on God, I assure you he has not given up on you. "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. "For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened." 'Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me. 'He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.…

      Every person who is caused to stumble and fall by the wayside by so called "religions" puts a smile on the face of evil and pain in the heart of Jesus who suffered and died that you may be saved and believe it or not this is the truth.

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      mio cid:

      Thanks for reading and taking the time to leave your comments. I have never lost my faith in the Universal Oneness, just the faith in a failed system of delivery by the corruption of all organized religions that service themselves before the people they feign to serve.

      Instead of indoctrinating all children into some kind of superstitious business venture whose first interest is control and making money, we should be teaching our children about spirituality, humanity, compassion, tolerance, and love for each other. We do not need a middle man to accomplish this, or to mediate for us with the creator(s).

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      mio cid 3 years ago from Uruguay

      hi, d. I've followed you for years and really enjoy your hubs.With the experiences you relate in this hub I don't blame you for leaving the catholic church ,but I hope not the faith altogether.That priest was truly a horrible person and more than a catholic priest he seems to be the proverbial Manchurian candidate working for the devil inside the church.

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      Thank you for reading and your comments that add to the validity of the article.

      It is spiritually healthy to have a belief in something greater than ourselves, but when it comes to manipulating the lives of others to suit one's own beliefs for profit it is time to re-evaluate what we are doing to our children on a global scale. And we certainly can attest to the fact that religious confusion and turmoil is the cause of the bulk of our global problems.

      The global attacks on women and the gay population is proof enough of this societal affliction that religion causes for fellow human beings.

      Love and compassion are certainly not the major concern of religious teaching in today's world.

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      kathleen Odenthal.

      Thanks for reading and leaving a comment.

      You are correct that people should make their own choices, but they should have had the right to make those choices in the first place.

      When children are indoctrinated into any cult before they reach their age of reasoning, that choice has been taken away from them - and that in itself is abusive to any soul that enters this world.

      By brainwashing children from the time of their birth, the choices made based on logic and reality have been taken away from them for life.

      Without the benefit of deprogramming, most people have no choice in the matter of believing, or not believing, in fairy tale stories.

      Unless one learns how to overcome the fear and guilt instilled from early childhood, logical and rational choices can never be made when they reach adulthood.

      These are not just my opinions they are based in psychological facts. This is another reason that religious conservatives try to debunk science in favor of mysticism.

      I have a great relationship with the Universal Oneness that most people refer to as "God" without the emotional and financial burdens of any organized religious cult.

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      I agree. Amen to that. L.O.L.

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      Kathleen Odenthal Romano 3 years ago from Bayonne, New Jersey

      hmmm interesting piece. I understand your own personal opinions, but I try not to encourage people one way or another when it comes to religion, it is a very personal choice. but that is just how i feel, im sure many people disagree with me!

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      kenneth avery

      thanks for reading and leaving your comments. I am glad you found this hub interesting. I will certainly visit your hubpages as well. Looking forward to reading your hubs.

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      Paula 3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Organized Religion has been slowly fading into the distant and if not in our lifetime, will surely be non-existent one day. Churches are closing (especially RC Churches) by the hundreds.....and fewer and fewer people are signing up voluntarily to join any house of worship at all.

      These same (wise) people are realizing it simply does not require a "middleman" nor a boss, director or leader of any sort for each of us to have or not have a personal relationship with a god.....Our own Spirituality is our own free birthright. We need no man to write and announce the "rules"...nor to threaten, harass and intimidate us into digging into our pockets. We most definitely do not need another mortal and fallible human to suggest where we may or may not spend Eternity...IF in fact there is anything at all after life on this earth.

      I say Back off....We can figure this for ourselves, using our own intelligence and common sense and ability to reason and make our own decisions.

      Ticking off a few people is a bit of the price we may pay for speaking the Honest and REAL truth. No biggee. Plenty of people piss me off too. None of us should lose any sleep over such trivia.

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      Suzette Walker 3 years ago from Taos, NM

      What a terrific article! I was raised Roman Catholic and everything you say is the truth. All religion is doing in this country is creating divisions and gridlock in Congress. I won't even get into what region is doing worldwide to be divisive. Religion today seems to be preaching hate rather than love. If the Catholic Church would just stick to the teachings of Christ instead of creating doctrine, it would do itself a whole lot of good. I enjoyed reading this.

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      d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      Thank you so much for your positive comments on this hub. And you are so right that none of us actually get to pick the religion, or even make the choice as to whether to join ANY religion at all. (Unless, as an adult one makes the conscious choice to switch their religion they were brainwashed into as a child)

      It still makes me disgusted when our leaders ban and dismantle new cults because of their 'brainwashing' of those who they take in.

      It is such hypocrisy when they themselves have been unwillingly and unwittingly indoctrinated into their own cult from the time of their birth. Just because one belongs to a cult that is ruled by mass hysteria or mass insanity does not make that one more credible than th0se new ones popping up today.

      I did another hub about cults that ticked off a few people:

      that i have to go back to to update.

      I believe it would be in the best interest of our global society for every one born into any religion to be deprogrammed. And to make it illegal for anyone to indoctrinate their children into any type of cult. Unfortunately, those who participate in those cults do not believe they have been "programmed" to believe the way they do, and the fear instilled in their hearts by those programmers that promises burning in hell for eternity for even daring to think about getting out of them is too overwhelming for those frightened people to face.

      We can only hope that the next generations actually learn something from all these religious wars around the world to not teach their children to follow in the same footsteps.

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      Kenneth Avery 3 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama

      Hello, d.william,

      This is an excellent piece of writing. Amazing, to be honest.

      I loved every word. Voted up and all the choices because you deserve it.

      You have such a gift for writing. Just keep writing and good things are bound to happen to you.

      I cordially invite you to read one or two of my hubs, and be one of my followers.

      That would make my day.

      I am so honored to meet you.


      Kenneth Avery, Hamilton, Alabama

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      Paula 3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      d.williams....BRAVO!! to this brilliance! I devoured (and agreed 100%) every word. The truth is, I have not a single problem believing as well as relating to your tales from the past.

      Oddly, I never thought of it as "quitting" the RC Church.....because I never applied for the position in the first place nor did it ever have anything to do with my free choice right nor any type of my own personal reason. I just dumped them as soon as I was able to do so without causing a family CRISIS!

      I love your attitude and opinions you base it all on. WE are not alone. More and more, I encounter this from dozens and dozens of formerly brainwashed, shamed & effed-up individuals who needed to get out asap...before their very humanity was stolen.

      We are the "Recovering Catholics," of the world.....and we number in the millions.

      I appreciate you sharing this.......very much!....UP+++shared, tweeted & Pinned.

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      d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south


      Thanks for reading and commenting. You are correct in that the RCC is as corrupt as any other business organization today in this world. Most religions fit the same category.

      The sad part of all of this malarkey is that this government allows these corrupt businesses to influence governmental decisions that affect all of us by these malevolent entities without paying one cent in tax money.

      The original intent of religions being tax exempt was that they not interfere in the affairs of government.

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      Lou 5 years ago

      True and real...Yes! To anyone else out there..I can only hope you wake up, open your eyes and ears and understand and believe, that the roman catholic 'institution' has had an ungodly history. I was bought up roman catholic, but I chose not to be a part of a 'criminal' institution...and it is just that! As well as any so called church that makes the people of less status than the 'hierarchy' Jesus himself prayed that we may be ONE.... we are free willed individuals..the papacy has absolutely no right AT ALL...I certainly did not vote for them...did you?

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      d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.

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      Shalah Chayil 5 years ago from Billings, Montana

      Sounds way worse than my experience.

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      d.william 6 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thanks for reading. To answer your question: yes, Jesus jewish. But of course, the jewish faith, was somewhat different back then. Jesus was actually a Gnostic, faith wise.

      Even though i do not judge all religions based on the doings of the catholic church, i do not believe in any organized religion at all. They are nothing but politically motivated, money making, tax shirking entities that are grossly self serving, and use fear and bigotry (against other religions)and people that they see as unfit to be alive, and to frighten people into submissiveness. Today, religion has absolutely nothing to do with spirituality. It is political, corrupt and does not deserve the elevated status it is given in society. And all that government representation without paying one dam cent in taxes. What an american shame.

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      Edgarpoet 6 years ago

      Do not judge ALL religion by the doings of Catholics.

      Humans can (and do) believe in the creator without subscribing to ANY ism. I do agree with you about the political aspects of the Roman catholic church and find it to be disgusting! By the way, wasn't Jesus Christ actually a "Jew"? I think so.

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      d.william 6 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thank you for reading and your comments. They are appreciated. My profound belief is that "organized religion is the enemy of spiritual progress" as one hubber so aptly put it. I do not need the comraderie of a group to maintain my spirituality. This too, is a down fall of most Christians. There is no safety in numbers, and just because one believes the same fairy tales passed down from generation to generation does not make the fairy tale true. Although Christ was certainly a human being, and a political rebel, he certainly was no more than you and i: flesh and bone. I have never believed in worshiping another human being, and never will. We are ALL sons (and daughters) of the Creator. My profound belief in that Creator can not be diminished by not belonging to any organized religion whose only driving force is monetary. There are good people in all sects, and there are thousands of religions who all proclaim to be the "only true" religion. Reality is what it is. My faith is in the Creator. Not a religion. Thanks you again for your thoughts. dw

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      Jeff Shirley 6 years ago from Kentwood, Michigan

      I am sorry that you had the experiences that you did with the Catholic Church. Much of what you talked about is what lead to the Protestant Reformation. The whole idea of salvation by any other means except by grace alone, through faith in Jesus Christ alone is totally against the teachings of the New Testament, especially the teachings of the Apostle Paul. While I don't agree with everything you said, it certainly is an abomination what some people do in the name of Christ. However, we cannot throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. There are many Christians and many churches that are trying to remain faithful to Christ and his teachings. While not perfect, they make every attempt to do so.

      I would encourage you not to so hastily throw out all religious belief. I have found a belief in God to be the only rational choice in this world that appears to have lost all sense of truth. At least don't think that the Catholic Church speaks for all Christians. It does not!

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      d.william 6 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thank you so much for reading and commenting. I look forward to reading some of your work in the near future. dw

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      Reynold Jay 6 years ago from Saginaw, Michigan

      I've never read anything that comes close to this and am overwhelmed with sympathy and more for what you have written here which must not have been an easy task. I'm going to read more of your HUBS. As for money, I wanted to join my Methodist church after graduating from college and my teacher pay was $7800 a year. I wrote a note that I wanted to join and would contribute $10 a week to the offering during the service. They wrote back they wanted $500 a month and I have never stepped into a church service as a member from that day 40 years ago. After much study in the last few years (during retirement) I've reached conclusions that mirror your own. I'm writing Seeds from Heaven a five part series, 3 completed. My thought is to write novels that do not preach, however would offer enlightment to the reader as they make their way through the stories. RJ

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      d.william 7 years ago from Somewhere in the south

      Thank you for reading and your comments.

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      Shadowblack 7 years ago from England

      Enlightening, entertaining and beautifully written.