God and the atheists

Cosmos or God of the universe

The cosmos is part of the whole universe and therefore part of God or god life force, so by looking at part of the universe we may indeed be looking at part of God. Therefore, is this how we can describe god in the future?
The cosmos is part of the whole universe and therefore part of God or god life force, so by looking at part of the universe we may indeed be looking at part of God. Therefore, is this how we can describe god in the future?

About God and the atheists

Talking about God and the atheists

Welcome to our hub (15), God and the atheists.

May God help and guide me to write the right religious things in this article?

Dear readers, in our previous article of, religious discussions and prayers, we have mentioned many religious issues, and therefore, we have also talked about the atheist people, which are those people that don’t believe in the existence of God. So, we will continue to talk about the atheists in this article, in the hope of finding some common grounds. Anyhow, I would also like to point out that this article is also part of Prayers for Reconciliation religious writings, where we are going to continue to discuss many religious issues; where we are looking also for some ways, if it is possible that religions could be modified. So that, it would become easier for any existing religion to accept other religious beliefs without reserve. I believe that we should be able to do that, because all existing religions would become then a link of the same chain, of all existing religions and therefore all spiritual forces of the universe.

Now let us talk about the atheists, as we all know the atheists do not believe in God for many reasons, they don’t see God as the creator of everything and also they don’t believe in God at all; so, God and the atheists are worlds apart, as they don’t even see the need of having a god like most of us do. You see, most of us believe in God and believe that we need religions to guide us and follow God’s laws or will; we could also add here what we have talked about in our last article, where we said that God is hope for those that need hope most. For this reason, we cannot follow the atheist ways even if we want to, since we believe in God and we believe that we need God.

Since we believe in God, and we know that humanity needs to believe in God, for this reason, we will try to find a way through discussions how to modify religions, so that we may continue to have religions and God just the way it is today if it is possible; at the same times we are looking for the existence of a god, or a super God that even the atheists may accept, and at the same time this new super God that we are looking for should be able to connect all existing religions together, so, let us try our best to achieve both these goals.

As we have already said in our other hubs, these religious writings are being written in good faith for the future benefit of mankind, at least this is our fundamental aim. In these religious writings we are in search of a new religious way, so, while we are discussing about God and the atheists in these hubs, we will also be looking for religious options that could improve links between existing religions; now what we have just said might alarm some of our religious readers, especially those religious people that really believe in God, so, we have written an explanation here under, for our readers’ peace of mind.

Written for our readers’ peace of mind

To anyone who is a believer and believes in God and other religious beliefs, we say, please read our Prayers for Reconciliation writings fully before you pass judgment and quit reading; you see Prayers for Reconciliation is only an idealistic theory, which through discussions with other fellow believer (and perhaps non-believers) is trying to find a way on how to link all existing religions together; therefore our religious beliefs and the existing religions will remain just the way that they are today. So, don’t you worry about it, if our religious writings could sometime sound different from the ways that we usually hear religions being preached, Because there is no need to worry about it, as it will be explained as you read all our religious writings, and then, you can judge for yourself at the end of our religious writings of Prayers for reconciliation and Reconciliation of the Universe?

Now, let us say what we are going to write in this hub; in our last article we have talked about, Prayers and religious discussions. In this hub we will be writing about: God and the atheists or God for the atheist; There is a god even for the atheists; what or who is God; all this is aimed to change the atheistic views, if we can.

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Now that we have written what our writing intentions are for this article, let me say a prayer to our Father God Most High, in the hope that God would hear my prayer and helps me say the right religious things, in these religious writings of, God and the atheist.

My prayer to God Most High

Almighty Father I pray you with all my heart, my soul and my mind to guard and protect me from all dangers and the spiritual forces of evil and let me be a very wise man, so that I would be able to live the rest of my life according to your will, and write these religious writings as humanly as possible according to your will and in such a way that humanity would accept them and use them one day for the future benefit of mankind. Father, hear my prayer amen.

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Michelangelo's face of God

This is one of Michelangelo painting of God in his many paintings of God. But this does not prove that God is like this, because nobody has ever seen God, so, God can look and be just about anything, in fact God could be the universe itself.
This is one of Michelangelo painting of God in his many paintings of God. But this does not prove that God is like this, because nobody has ever seen God, so, God can look and be just about anything, in fact God could be the universe itself. | Source

Greek and Roman god Jupiter

In ancient times, Jupiter was the king of all the gods of those times; but now this is only a myth. This goes to prove that religions can change, and even today religions could change, if and when it changes we don't know yet.
In ancient times, Jupiter was the king of all the gods of those times; but now this is only a myth. This goes to prove that religions can change, and even today religions could change, if and when it changes we don't know yet. | Source

There could be a god even for the atheists

Yes, we believe that there could be a god even for the atheists, or should we have said, that there might be a god even for the atheist’s non-believers? Anyhow, let us discuss here these possibilities, since this article is about the atheists and their beliefs in the nonexistence of God. Atheists do not believe in God because the existence of God clashes with their own belief of how life came about and everything else. They believe that to teach people about god and religion, it is all a lie and could even be harmful. Since God does not exist and mankind has invented God early in history, when they did not know better.

This atheist attitude is already causing some concerns between religious believers and atheists, and it might cause one day more unforeseen hardship to the people that believe in God, because they might feel unwelcomed from the atheists, just as much as the atheist could feel unwelcome from the religious believers, if and when they go to a place where everybody frequents. For these reasons it might be good if there is a way that one day we might be able to show the atheists that there might be a sort of god even for them, of course this god that we are talking about has got to be close enough to the atheist’s own beliefs.

Therefore, in this article we are going to put forward a new religious theory that there could even be a God for the atheists, which the atheists themselves might accept and believe in, if we fail to do that and we are not able to convince the atheists about this possible god existence, then they would continue to deny God existence, so, there could be many unseen religious problems in the future, so, let us hope that we would be able to find a way to achieve that.

For these reasons that we have described above, all religious believers need to be ready for these future events that might happen soon or later. Since, we are trying to describe a new religious way, in the hope that we would be able to change the atheist’s views about god existence. But, if the atheist views cannot be changed, because we have not been able to find the right way how to convince them. Then, one day will come when the atheist might win their way so to speak. We believe that that day will be a hard day for the believers, because they have their own reasons for believing in God; since God for them is hope for those that need hope most; therefore, religious believers cannot just believe that God does not exist like the atheists do, because their last hope remains in the belief or their God, which they believe in and need. If God does not exist and that link of hope is lost, then they might feel lost forever.

So let us just imagine, if and when the atheist win their ways and God as we know it now might not exist anymore, we the believers that need God so much should still try to find our way back to God, because mankind needs God, so, we should explain our religious position to the atheist in such a way that even the atheists would be convinced that indeed there might be a God, or perhaps that we really need a god, even if this new found or made up God or modified God is a bit different to the God we know now, in the hope that the atheists might even become believers themselves of the new modified or made up God, or at least let the believers believe about God without arguing with them too much.

After all, as we have said already, Man needs God, and perhaps God needs man, otherwise what does a god mean if there are no followers? And also, what will those people that rely on religions for guidance do if there is no God and religious guidance?

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Angels are part of God life energies of the universe

You, angels of the realm of glory, you tell forever the eternal story, you tell us about the creator's glory, you tell us the wonders of God's creation. Since the atheists cannot accept God, would they accept the existence of angels at least?
You, angels of the realm of glory, you tell forever the eternal story, you tell us about the creator's glory, you tell us the wonders of God's creation. Since the atheists cannot accept God, would they accept the existence of angels at least?

Talking about a possible atheists' god

Talking about a possible atheists’ god

Believe it or not, there might even be a god for the atheists

Okay, I am sure that at this point of time, you our readers must be thinking that I am going too far, because what I am saying here seems to be an impossible thing to achieve, so I am dreaming an impossible dream. But I believe that it is possible to describe a god that even the atheists might accept. So, let us talk about this possible god or near impossible atheists’ god that we have in mind.

Now, first od all, this question arises, what sort of god could or should be like for the atheists to believe in the existence of a god? Would it be possible that they might accept a god, if this God that we are talking about is simply Mother Nature that replaces God? Or perhaps we could say that God is the life energies of the entire universe, just because the life energies of the universe cannot be denied because they really exist? Then we may also say that the life energies of the universe are those natural energies that make life possible on earth, and therefore, they might represent Mother Nature and God for us believers.

Now, dear readers, allow us to reflect a bit on what we have already said in last hub called, Prayers and religious discussions, (this is the link if you want to check it out: Prayers and religious discussions, 14 It seems to me that there were two main issues one of which was/is that, religions and God is hope for those who need hope most, the other most important issue we discussed there was about the atheists, and their attitude towards the religious believers.

As we all know the atheists are those people that don’t believe in any sort of God or religions, and also, they believe that the world could be better off if there are no religions at all. Sometime I have reason to believe that they are partly right to believe, that religious beliefs and God brings more harm than good to us people. For instance, when we look at what the Islamic terrorist do these days, when we hear what they believe about their own God, and they seem free to kill just everybody that does not agree with them; this is when the atheists are right, and we the believer are wrong, and it would have been better if people did not believe in this sort of God. But, there are reasons to believe, that it is their religious ways that have been twisted so much, and not the beliefs in the existence of God.

I have to say that I don’t agree with the atheists, but at the same time I have to say that the extremist terrorists are a lot worse. Therefore, I don’t agree with both of them, but here we are mainly talking about the atheists; personally we don’t agree with their ways of thinking, therefore we have to say that we could not believe anything they might say ether, because we have reasons to believe that mankind needs God and religions, it has been so since the beginning of the known world, so, let me describe briefly how I see the history of religions hereunder.

You see, when we look at the history of religions, we cannot avoid noticing that there have been many religions in the past, which have lasted for a while, then something changed and also religions changed every now and then, so, what was believed for a short while or perhaps a long time slowly died away and was replaced from another form of religion. Perhaps not completely new but at least modified; so religious beliefs may be able to modify with time without any harm to the religions themselves. Therefore, if one believes that history usually repeats itself, if we allow enough time for it to happen, then there would be no harm in changing some religious beliefs, as we have tried to explain herewith.

Of course, now these religious questions arise; Are we at that stage when religion needs to change? What should we do if they need changing now? It might also happen that religions are slowly changing by themselves and there is nothing that we can do to stop that, but one day we may have to accept this new religious way that they have become; for this reason, should we ask how and why they are changing?

Of course we know that there are a few causes that may changes religious beliefs, and one of these causes is that today everything is changing very fast, and changes bring in other changes as we all know, so religions may be changing as well.

What is the main cause one may ask?

We have reasons to believe that today the computer brings knowledge to all people very fast, this new knowledge makes people ask questions, because they want to check out for themselves everything; so, soon or later they will not be satisfied about their own religious beliefs, because they can see some aspect of religion that does not make sense, and therefore, they will start abandoning the existing religions, unless these existing religions change in a way that satisfies the people beliefs and they are according to the modern values that people attach to them.

Now since religious change are going to happen soon or later, as one day it will be inevitable, we need to think what sort of God people would accept in the future.

Therefore, hereunder is a description of God of the future, which the atheist people might even accept, as it is a lot closer to their way of thinking.

But before we come to that, I need to say that there already exist, in my hub pages another description of what God could be like in our hub, Man needs God, (link Man needs God) Now let me try to explain how we see God of the future that even the atheists might accept.

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God of the universe, or cosmos

God of the universe can be anywhere, so wherever we look we might be looking at part of God, or god life force energies of the universe. We believe that we live within God, as God could be said that is the entire universe.
God of the universe can be anywhere, so wherever we look we might be looking at part of God, or god life force energies of the universe. We believe that we live within God, as God could be said that is the entire universe.
If we want to believe in a pantheistic God, so that, the atheist would accept the existence of God, This is just another possible view of God of the universe that the atheist could accept.
If we want to believe in a pantheistic God, so that, the atheist would accept the existence of God, This is just another possible view of God of the universe that the atheist could accept.

Which God is for the atheist

What or who is God that even the atheists might accept?

Before I start to talk about what or who is God that even the atheists might accept, I would like to point out that we have already said and written a previous hub, where we tried to prove that God exists because life exists, (link God exists because life exists) Having said that now we can go back to talk about this god for the atheists.

At the end of our previous hub, we were saying that we would be looking for ways of how God could be described, so that the atheists could perhaps accept the existence of God more willingly so to speak; we also mentioned that there was this philosopher called Baruch Spinoza who did not believe that God was the ways religious leader want us to believe; because Baruch Spinoza was more inclined to believe that God was something other than a person, in fact he carefully puts forward the idea that God is in everything and that we live within God, he thought that God was pantheist therefore every living thing is part of God; Baruch Spinoza’s God may also be like Mother Nature. Having said that, one could consider that, if we follow these lines of reasoning we may indeed describe a god that even the atheists might have to accept.

So, now let us try to describe what and how God could or would be described in the future, so that, most of us, if not all of us would accept, and even the atheists could or would accept this new described God; therefore, believe it or not there might indeed be God even for the atheists.

Let us now try to describe this God, who is a god that even the atheists could accept.

Now, if we care to put all the world religious belief together, we may come to the conclusion that indeed God must exist, because all religions believe in some sort of god, even if they disagree in some details how to describe God. For us today, God may well be all living and spiritual things that exist that exist in the universe. See also our hub God exists.

Just to start with, we may assume that God is all the life energies that exist in the universe, which means that every living thing is part of God, therefore no living thing can exist without God-life-force-energies, and therefore just to give a name to these life energies, we may have to call these life energies God-Most-High and this God-Most-High is the most important part of the life forces of the universe, but as we know we cannot see God or any of these life forces of the universe; so, we have to use our own imagination to describe how all this could be like, and my imagination suggests that throughout the cosmos of the whole universe, God-life-force gives life to every living thing, communicate in his own ways with every living thing and also is able to record everything that happens and what the living beings do.

Just let me explain the cosmos as my friends and I understand it, since the cosmos is every existing thing, by default the cosmos can do anything, therefore the cosmos has those entire requisite to communicate with everything, therefore the cosmos may as well have the capacity to keep all past records, and also the present and future records of anything that happens. You see, if we are able to keep records in our own ways, it seems obvious that in nature there must be a way to keep records also, since we cannot create anything that does not and could not exist, therefore, we may have to accept that we can only discover the ways of nature how to keep records, so, we believe that there must be a natural way to keep records within the cosmos, because the cosmos is everything and can be the mediums to achieve anything.

Now, let me go back to the most important part of these religious writings, which is to describe God that even the atheist might accept, I need to say that because we have already described this elsewhere in these religious writings I will try to be brief because if you would like to see a full description you can go to my blog or hub, Man needs God, anyhow hereunder is how I would describe God:

We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe, and this God is the active life-force energies of the entire universe; therefore, every living thing is part of this God- life-force energies and nothing living can exist without God, because God is life itself. This is the briefest way that I can think of how to describe a God for everybody including the atheists could accept.

Dear readers please note that I had once a longer description of this God of the universe, but I had to remove it from Hub Pages because it would create duplicate content. If you want to read it now it is in the pages at this blog address: http://manneedsgod.blogspot.com and then click on the link Hub pages’ duplicate content.

I believe that we have said enough in this article, so I hope that we have made it clear that even the atheists may believe in a God, if this god comes close enough to their ways of seeing whatever they believe in and spiritual things.

This article is becoming too long, so see you next time, in our article, religions are spiritual beliefs.

May God guide and help us understand these religious things?

May God bless us all?

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Frank Menchise 6 years ago from Brisbane Australia Author

This hub has been written to prevent the atheists winning their way. So, if you think that you can suggest a better way let us hear it. Write a comment hereunder.


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schoolgirlforreal 6 years ago from USA

You're right, the world today is fastly following the devil. The devil has constantly attacked the Church (Christian /Catholic) since it began. All thru the ages, he has but not succeeded (and won't). I speak of the 7 ages of the Church in my hub and God and His church Will triumph. But God allows the devil to tempt souls (we have free will). So, in our age, yes, men can say 2+2 =7 when in reality it's not true. We look forward to the next age of the Church (SIx) where all will be converted and saved.

Thanks so much for your comment on my hub!


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Frank Menchise 5 years ago from Brisbane Australia Author

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