Is the 5 Billion dollars fine imposed on Goldman Sachs fits the crime?

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  1. jackclee lm profile image81
    jackclee lmposted 8 years ago

    Is the 5 Billion dollars fine imposed on Goldman Sachs fits the crime?

    The government reached a settlement with Goldman Sachs of 5 Billion dollars for deceiving investors about the mortgage derivatives that caused the recession of 2008. As of today, not one person have been charged or gone to jail for the mess that almost destroyed our economic system. Do you think the punishment fit the crime? Why is the government profiting from this?

  2. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
    bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years ago

    First, it depends on how much that Sachs actually made on this deception. The profit whether it is $5 billion or  $500 billion should be funneled back to those deceived, and not the co-conspirator which is the govt.

    Any crimes committed as part of this deception should have been pursued by the govt against those in Sachs that were involved in them.

    Sachs couldn't have committed this deception without the aid and complicity of the federal govt. This includes congress, the Fannie and Freddie, the Federal Reserve Board for artificially keeping the interest rates low so that these bad loans would have failed earlier, very early on, and allowing the failed financial institutions to use the bailout money to give the major execs in these companies 7 figure Bonuses.

    Then, with the bailout money in their vaults, these banks refused to lend the money to other banks, much less the victims who lost their homes.

    Above and beyond the actual profit made thru the deception, these companies should be given punitive penalties as well.

    1. jackclee lm profile image81
      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, but is fines enough to discourage this type of behavior going forward? It seems that if companies profit from these illegal activities and the government profit when they catch them with fines, what is the incentive to stop this?

    2. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jack
      Fines should be coupled with criminal charges where appropriate, and that would be in most cases. Punitive damages should be shared by their victims, and not the gov. These damages are large enough for the banks to feel the pain.

    3. jackclee lm profile image81
      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My sentiments exactly. Why do we allow this to go on and no one is held accountable both in government and in industry?

    4. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jack
      My opinion is because the loyal party voter doesn't demand their party take action to correct the problem. The financial institutions even profited from the gov lack of enforcement on their scam. The gov is subservient to corp America.

    5. jackclee lm profile image81
      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It is troubling that both parties seems to support the status quo. No matter who we elect to office, they seem to continue to do the biddings of these companies against the interest of the people.

    6. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That is why, I blame the loyal party voter, as they don't demand that their party change. All these companies finance their elections, and that of their party. Both parties are doing the same thing. This won't change until the voters change.IMHO

 
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