Elon Musk smoking weed during a TV interview...

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  1. jackclee lm profile image80
    jackclee lmposted 19 months ago

    How does the CEO of a major company think this is acceptable behavior? Why is he still in charge of Tesla? Where is the sane people in his company? If I was an employee of this company, I would take as message it is ok to smoke weed as well...
    The question for all Tesla owners is this - do you want your car built by someone who smoke weed on the job?

    1. jackclee lm profile image80
      jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      The stock price is down to $280 today. This stock is only valued at $150. If I am a stock holder, I would sell now before it goes down further. The bubble is about to pop...

    2. peterstreep profile image78
      peterstreepposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      What's wrong with smoking weed? Before you know it stockholders sell there shares because Musk is wearing the wrong sunglasses.
      Get real. Smoking weed is not a crime. If Elon Musk wants to smoke a joint, let him.

      1. jackclee lm profile image80
        jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

        Really? It may not be illegal in a few states. But, most corporations has a no drug policy. They drug test people before hiring. Really, do you feel comfortable with someone driving a bus, or a truct, or a plane while high on weed?
        How about a Surgeon or demtist working on you or your relative? How about welding a car or building a bridge or a high rise?
        You need to rethink this.
        The problem with recreational use of marijuana is how do you enforce it?
        The drug csn stay in your system for hours or days.

        1. peterstreep profile image78
          peterstreepposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          There are more people drunk every weekend then stoned. Have you seen a stoned bus driver or surgeon? No, there is more chance you’ve seen a drunk busdriver. Do you feel save? Should alcohol be forbidden? Ever heard about the war on alcohol....its more deadly then weed.
          By the way if you’ve seen the interview with Elon Musk he is saying that he hardly never smokes weed and he is discouraging it because it makes you less productive.

          1. jackclee lm profile image80
            jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            We all know the story with prohibition. Weed in some ways are more deadly.
            I know it has medical uses and benefit some with pain relief...
            However, it is much harder to test for weed abuse than alcohol abuse.
            We have DUI laws but how many people have been arrested for driving under the influence of weed? Not many...
            Making it legal is in the experiments stages. We don’t know the long term effect on children...and on driving on roads and highways...
            I think Musk set a bad example as CEO and the company stock paid a heavy price.
            Serious consequences must be in effect or else, it will be chaos.

            1. jackclee lm profile image80
              jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              The bigger problem for Tesla is what will the company look like without Elon Musk?
              If a whole company is built on the talents and reputation of only one man, what happens when that person is gone?
              What if God forbids, he is run over by a truck tomorrow?
              Can Tesla survive as a car company?

            2. peterstreep profile image78
              peterstreepposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              There are more people dying and having medical problems from alcohol then from weed.
              How many deadly car accidents happen a year because of alcohol misuse. And compare this with the deadly car accidents because of having a spiff.
              Weed is not dangerous, not as such.

              The story with prohibition shows indeed that because of the criminalization of alcohol the mafia got a powerful presence.
              The same happens today with drugs. Because drugs are prohibited there is so much crime. It is well worth thinking about legalizing drugs, just as we did with alcohol. In that way you can better control the process of producing, selling to shops/pharmacy and the usage. You can tax it too.
              In this way you will eliminate a lot of crime syndicates.

              1. wilderness profile image96
                wildernessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                It sounds like you're saying that because far more people drink alcohol than smoke weed, and thus have more car accidents, etc. as a result, it proves that weed is a much safer drug.

                I'm not following the logic here at all; when weed becomes as common and popular as alcohol it would seem that it will cause just as many accidents as alcohol does.

                1. peterstreep profile image78
                  peterstreepposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  In a way, you got me there and things should be compared percentage wise. That said I’m Dutch and in Holland weed can be bought in special bars. And you can grow your own weed for personal use.
                  The weed thats sold in the special bars is under vision of the police. They know who are the supliers and the sellers.
                  The legalization of weed has not lead to more exidents or causes of death. Alcohol is still far worse.
                  As people are in general responsible enough and they know that smoking weed, just like cigarets is not healthy on the long run. Although its sometimes used as medicine.

                  1. wilderness profile image96
                    wildernessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    Does Holland have a fail-proof method of detecting weed in accident victims, and does it make that test as often as it does for alcohol?  Does Holland have a standard wherein a set level in a victim is declared as being causal in the accident?

                    The US has none of those, so deciding when weed was at least partially causal isn't even close to being as informative as it is for alcohol.  Plus, of course, we don't have the years of experience with weed that we do with ethanol.

        2. Aime F profile image82
          Aime Fposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          But he wasn’t doing any of those things.

          My company allows us to have a few drinks at training meetings, our alcohol consumption doesn’t directly affect our consumers in any way because we’re all just sitting around and watching presentations/having discussions.

          Likewise, his smoking a joint while doing an interview didn’t directly affect his job performance in a way that puts other people in danger so it’s not really comparable to a situating where it does.

          1. jackclee lm profile image80
            jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            I worked for IBM for 28 years. It is company policy from the founder, Thomas Watson Sr. that no alcohol of any kind be present on company sites, even in the parking lot. The same goes for company events and even award dinners... The policy, though strict, was a way to instill a professional atmosphere.
            The point I am making is that if a CEO of a company is seen doing it, it would be hard to enforce it among his many employees. It be seen as hypocrisy. Once you loose that standard, then it goes down hill pretty quickly.

            1. GA Anderson profile image91
              GA Andersonposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              jackclee, I think you are on the wrong side of this one - popularly speaking.

              There is nothing wrong with your opinion - for you, and how you view things should be, but, I think many have moved away from the 'Reefer Madness' perspective of past times.

              Plus, I think you carry your point too far saying the assembly line workers will be working high because they saw their boss do it.

              Just say'n

              GA

              1. jackclee lm profile image80
                jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                I don’t think I am over reacting. There are kids smoking weed who should not be. Study has been done on how it can influence the development of the brain. As for employees, it is an easy excuse for a worker busted for weed, he can just say the CEO does it...

                We still haven’t had enough data on driving. In Colorado, and Washington State where marijuana is legal, we haven’t done the study on the impact on DUI...

            2. Aime F profile image82
              Aime Fposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              I don’t really think that prohibiting all alcohol at all events under all circumstances is necessary for a professional atmosphere.

              It’s not hard to enforce because most people would acknowledge the difference between smoking weed in an interview and smoking weed while doing a job that demands a certain measurable quality that affects other people.

              1. jackclee lm profile image80
                jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                I respect your opinion. I guess it is a generational difference between us. I lived in an era where a career is a lifetime. Company loyalty meant something. Quality is an obsession. Free healthcare and pensions were part of the company benefits and attraction. Those things are no more...sad.

                1. Aime F profile image82
                  Aime Fposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  I don’t know how you’re getting that none of those things exist anymore by anything that I’ve said. But alright.

                  1. jackclee lm profile image80
                    jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    I am just making an observation about the differences between working today and when I was in the work force 30-40 years ago.
                    Apparently, now, smoking a joint is no big deal. I hear that from my nephews...

        3. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          Elon Musk isn't going to drive your car or plane, he isn't going to work in your mouth, weld your car or bridge together.  At absolute worst he will drive the country that produced your expensive car into the ground.

          But I DO agree that he is setting a very poor example, and that his example MAY have affected the stock price (unlikely, IMO, but possible).  No healthy brain needs, or should receive, a mind altering drug of any kind.  Including amounts of ethanol sufficient to degrade it's normal functioning.

          1. jackclee lm profile image80
            jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            I think you missed my bigger point. He is affecting others, perhaps his employees, who can now smoke weed and work at building Tesla cars...which one day may fill our roads and highways and possibly fail due to manufacturing defects...and cause a crash. Even without the self driving mode, any crash is a dent on our society.

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              Really?  They can be smoking while assembling cars?

              Frankly, I doubt that.  I think I would want a little proof before believing it to be true.

              1. jackclee lm profile image80
                jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                Use your head, they don’t smoke while working. They take smoke breaks just like cigarette break. Then they go back to work high...
                Like the 1970 Harry Chapin song “taxi”... flying so high when I’m stoned.

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  Of course.  Just like all the people that dart outside for an "alcohol break" and come back in soused, or take a break to snort a little coke and go back to work high.  The workplace is absolutely jammed with such people, to the point that 9 out of 10 are high while working.

                  Not.  Use your own head; the law is chock full of prohibitions on such activity and no company can compete with a workplace full of flying workers.

                  1. jackclee lm profile image80
                    jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    Ok, I will make my final point and no need to drag this discussion out. What Elon Musk did was make pot smoking main stream. He sends a message to workers and children that it is ok to smoke pot... look at me, I am smart, successful, a CEO, and no big deal, I smoke pot and it feels good...no harm done...

                    It used to be back in the 1960s, pot smokers were generally hippies and musicians and artists...like woodstock.

                    Now, kids can point to him and say if Elon Musk does it, it must be cool.
                    That is the main harm I see for our society.

  2. IslandBites profile image86
    IslandBitesposted 19 months ago

    lol

  3. Live to Learn profile image81
    Live to Learnposted 19 months ago

    I don't care that Musk smoked weed. He's kind of an unstable genius. Not surprised.

  4. Erudite Scholar profile image60
    Erudite Scholarposted 19 months ago

    Hahaha smoking weed for a CEO like Musk is kinda cool.He is not trying to get you to smoke weed.He is eccentric like that.I like it!

  5. Zahra5253 profile image43
    Zahra5253posted 18 months ago

    yaa as per my thinking smoking weed is not crime.

    1. jackclee lm profile image80
      jackclee lmposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      It may not be a crime in certain States but it does affect one’s brain and thinking... In business, the CEO needs to be at the top of his game or else millions of share holders can be negatively affected...as we see today with TSLA stock dropping like a lead balloon.

      1. Aime F profile image82
        Aime Fposted 18 months agoin reply to this

        Do you apply the same judgment to CEOs who smoke tobacco products and have a drink every once in a while?

        1. jackclee lm profile image80
          jackclee lmposted 18 months agoin reply to this

          No, but it is not my opinion that matters. It is the law and the board members and shareholders that affect a CEO. Drinking and smoking ar acceptable vices in our culture. Weed is not at least in certain circles.

          1. Aime F profile image82
            Aime Fposted 18 months agoin reply to this

            But you said:

            “In business, the CEO needs to be at the top of his game or else millions of share holders can be negatively affected...”

            If your standard is that a CEO must be “at the top of his game” at all times then you should find alcohol and tobacco to be unacceptable at all times also.

            1. jackclee lm profile image80
              jackclee lmposted 18 months agoin reply to this

              That was the standard at IBM where I worked for 28 years. Even at company events, no alcohol was permitted.

              It is a personal choice with some.
              My statement was to address the problem with smoking weed.
              It is a mind altering drug. I know there are medical reasons for using it.
              In general, it is harmful for youths that are developing...
              In adults, it affects one’s thinking and judgement...
              This effects lasts much longer than smoking cigarettes or alcohol.
              That is my objection to legalizing weed.
              Time will tell if this is a real concern. We have some States experimenting with this by legalizing it and taxing it.

  6. Castlepaloma profile image74
    Castlepalomaposted 18 months ago

    How about that. Not long ago, every country in the world was under the thumb of the US marijuana laws. In Canada you can grow 4 plants in your home for recreational marijuana use at home. It starting, the world is not buying and cooperating with US nonsense. Could it have been Trump, who broke the camel's back.

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