Elon Musk smoking weed during a TV interview...

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jackclee lmposted 5 years ago
How does the CEO of a major company think this is acceptable behavior? Why is he still in charge of Tesla? Where is the sane people in his company? If I was an employee of this company, I would take as message it is ok to smoke weed as well...
The question for all Tesla owners is this - do you want your car built by someone who smoke weed on the job?
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  The stock price is down to $280 today. This stock is only valued at $150. If I am a stock holder, I would sell now before it goes down further. The bubble is about to pop...
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  peterstreepposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  What's wrong with smoking weed? Before you know it stockholders sell there shares because Musk is wearing the wrong sunglasses.
  Get real. Smoking weed is not a crime. If Elon Musk wants to smoke a joint, let him.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Really? It may not be illegal in a few states. But, most corporations has a no drug policy. They drug test people before hiring. Really, do you feel comfortable with someone driving a bus, or a truct, or a plane while high on weed?
  How about a Surgeon or demtist working on you or your relative? How about welding a car or building a bridge or a high rise?
  You need to rethink this.
  The problem with recreational use of marijuana is how do you enforce it?
  The drug csn stay in your system for hours or days.
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  peterstreepposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  There are more people drunk every weekend then stoned. Have you seen a stoned bus driver or surgeon? No, there is more chance you’ve seen a drunk busdriver. Do you feel save? Should alcohol be forbidden? Ever heard about the war on alcohol....its more deadly then weed.
  By the way if you’ve seen the interview with Elon Musk he is saying that he hardly never smokes weed and he is discouraging it because it makes you less productive.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  We all know the story with prohibition. Weed in some ways are more deadly.
  I know it has medical uses and benefit some with pain relief...
  However, it is much harder to test for weed abuse than alcohol abuse.
  We have DUI laws but how many people have been arrested for driving under the influence of weed? Not many...
  Making it legal is in the experiments stages. We don’t know the long term effect on children...and on driving on roads and highways...
  I think Musk set a bad example as CEO and the company stock paid a heavy price.
  Serious consequences must be in effect or else, it will be chaos.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  The bigger problem for Tesla is what will the company look like without Elon Musk?
  If a whole company is built on the talents and reputation of only one man, what happens when that person is gone?
  What if God forbids, he is run over by a truck tomorrow?
  Can Tesla survive as a car company?
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  peterstreepposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  There are more people dying and having medical problems from alcohol then from weed.
  How many deadly car accidents happen a year because of alcohol misuse. And compare this with the deadly car accidents because of having a spiff.
  Weed is not dangerous, not as such.
  
  The story with prohibition shows indeed that because of the criminalization of alcohol the mafia got a powerful presence.
  The same happens today with drugs. Because drugs are prohibited there is so much crime. It is well worth thinking about legalizing drugs, just as we did with alcohol. In that way you can better control the process of producing, selling to shops/pharmacy and the usage. You can tax it too.
  In this way you will eliminate a lot of crime syndicates.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  It sounds like you're saying that because far more people drink alcohol than smoke weed, and thus have more car accidents, etc. as a result, it proves that weed is a much safer drug.
  
  I'm not following the logic here at all; when weed becomes as common and popular as alcohol it would seem that it will cause just as many accidents as alcohol does.
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  peterstreepposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  In a way, you got me there and things should be compared percentage wise. That said I’m Dutch and in Holland weed can be bought in special bars. And you can grow your own weed for personal use.
  The weed thats sold in the special bars is under vision of the police. They know who are the supliers and the sellers.
  The legalization of weed has not lead to more exidents or causes of death. Alcohol is still far worse.
  As people are in general responsible enough and they know that smoking weed, just like cigarets is not healthy on the long run. Although its sometimes used as medicine.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Does Holland have a fail-proof method of detecting weed in accident victims, and does it make that test as often as it does for alcohol? Does Holland have a standard wherein a set level in a victim is declared as being causal in the accident?
  
  The US has none of those, so deciding when weed was at least partially causal isn't even close to being as informative as it is for alcohol. Plus, of course, we don't have the years of experience with weed that we do with ethanol.
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  peterstreepposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I can't answer those questions as I do not work at the police. But when the police do their traffic control on drugs, they mean by drugs alcohol,weed,xtc etc. And they definately can pick out the cars and drivers who are under influence (may it be alcohol or weed - you definately smell it...). Alcohol wins by far.
  But as both alcohol and weed are legal for usage. Traffic accidents and aggressive behaviour because of alcohol misuse is far greater then the usage of weed, which makes you relax.
  
  I've never met an aggressive person using weed, I've met plenty of aggressive people because they drunk too much.
  
  So knowing that weed and alcohol can be be bought with the same ease and knowing that more people drink alcohol then smoking weed it seems strange to me that people have more problems with the moral issue of smoking weed then with drinking alcohol. As alcohol is socially a bigger problem then weed.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I don’t know if you can make that blanket generalization. There only a few states that have legalized weed and only been in effect a few years. Where as alcohol has been legal since the 1930s.
  Another fact is there is a breathalizer test for alcohol but not an effective test for smoking pot. How can police or our court system handle this new reality?
  Why would we want to experiment with our lives when a car weighting 3000 pounds can be used as a deadly weapon, one thst is more dangerous than a gun or firearm.
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  peterstreepposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I'm talking about Holland Jacklee. The first so called "coffeshop" opened in 1968. A "coffeshop" is a bar where you can legally buy weed.
  So that's 50 years of experience. Enough to say that legally selling weed did not have a negative influence on the society.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  They don’t have millions of cars on the road either...
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  But he wasn’t doing any of those things.
  
  My company allows us to have a few drinks at training meetings, our alcohol consumption doesn’t directly affect our consumers in any way because we’re all just sitting around and watching presentations/having discussions.
  
  Likewise, his smoking a joint while doing an interview didn’t directly affect his job performance in a way that puts other people in danger so it’s not really comparable to a situating where it does.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I worked for IBM for 28 years. It is company policy from the founder, Thomas Watson Sr. that no alcohol of any kind be present on company sites, even in the parking lot. The same goes for company events and even award dinners... The policy, though strict, was a way to instill a professional atmosphere.
  The point I am making is that if a CEO of a company is seen doing it, it would be hard to enforce it among his many employees. It be seen as hypocrisy. Once you loose that standard, then it goes down hill pretty quickly.
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  GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  jackclee, I think you are on the wrong side of this one - popularly speaking.
  
  There is nothing wrong with your opinion - for you, and how you view things should be, but, I think many have moved away from the 'Reefer Madness' perspective of past times.
  
  Plus, I think you carry your point too far saying the assembly line workers will be working high because they saw their boss do it.
  
  Just say'n
  
  GA
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I don’t think I am over reacting. There are kids smoking weed who should not be. Study has been done on how it can influence the development of the brain. As for employees, it is an easy excuse for a worker busted for weed, he can just say the CEO does it...
  
  We still haven’t had enough data on driving. In Colorado, and Washington State where marijuana is legal, we haven’t done the study on the impact on DUI...
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won … e5ce0dfa06
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I don’t really think that prohibiting all alcohol at all events under all circumstances is necessary for a professional atmosphere.
  
  It’s not hard to enforce because most people would acknowledge the difference between smoking weed in an interview and smoking weed while doing a job that demands a certain measurable quality that affects other people.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I respect your opinion. I guess it is a generational difference between us. I lived in an era where a career is a lifetime. Company loyalty meant something. Quality is an obsession. Free healthcare and pensions were part of the company benefits and attraction. Those things are no more...sad.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I don’t know how you’re getting that none of those things exist anymore by anything that I’ve said. But alright.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I am just making an observation about the differences between working today and when I was in the work force 30-40 years ago.
  Apparently, now, smoking a joint is no big deal. I hear that from my nephews...
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  Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  When I was young, I was a world class swimmer. Smoke weed three or four times a week. You realize you can't swim extra laps needed to break world records, was the Downside. The upside of weed is that it opens up your mind, to see I wasn't going to living at swimming. So, switch to being an artist, did that professionally for 44 years. Learn to work smarter rather than longer and harder. Now I do weed like drinking organic wine occasionally. Weed is less dangerous and less addictive than coffee.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Very interesting. So in your mind, smoking weed made you a better person. Thst explains all the opinions we have been getting from you all these months. It is not you speaking but the weed.
  
  Try reading some scientific paper studies on this topic.
  Smoking weed interferes with the developing brain of teenagers. The size is reduced.
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  Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  You really bought into those propaganda Government adds of Reefer Madness and weed is public enemy number one. The fact is Cannabis is the most important plant on earth. When your Government locks up a million people a year over weed. It shows how much your Government lies to us about everything.
  
  Goverments research for brain damage was based on. Giving a monkey 50 joins in a row under an oxygen mask. Causing the monkey brain damage and he dies. He really dies of lack of oxygen.
  
  About two joints a month since I was a teenager, only relaxes me from over stress. Loving my work for 44 years more than anything contributes to my mastering life and opens my mind beautiful.
  
  I think this explain more your close mindedness from buying into Nationaism propaganda hook, line and sinker.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Unlike you, I actually read up on the medical effects...
  https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/ … /marijuana
  
  That also explains why our country, especially the youth, seems to be getting dumber...
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  Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Every generation gets smarter. It's the boomers who are dumber. Per capita it was the boomers in their youth who smoked more than double the tobacco as we do today. Tobacco kills more than all legal and illegal drugs combined as tobacco is legal in every country in the world. It is the collective consciousness of 80℅of the people who make positive change for the better, not your Government
  Pretty dumb to cut your survival rate.
  
  Boomers did alright overall in the beginning with peace, love, environment and fairness. Boomers since, have drop the ball. Then some became greedy Bastards then the vas majority were hypnotized and became shleeps.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Yep. Smoke 50 joints per day for 2 years. Remove the brain and soak it in THC for 2 weeks at 300 degrees. Pound the brain tissue with a hammer. There is brain damage.
  
  But anyone actually believing tests were done in that matter need to take a giant step back from their (obvious and enormous) bias against government and think it through. No researcher, for instance, could survive the reputation damage should they sign off on such a "study".
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  Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Those were the Reefer Madness days, and they have not done studies since on brain damage because is nonsense. Only if you are a mentally ill, they should not take drugs of any kind. At least Trump knows that.
  
  This is our new reefer madness studies coming from the (NIDA)
  National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) has a monopoly on the supply of research-grade marijuana, but no other Schedule I drug, that can be used in FDA-approved research. Also cannabis/hemp is schedule 1. That you can produce 50,000 different products from, and you can't high off it.
  
  What bigger lie can a mafia monopoly NIDA scam up like schedule I. That is one of the greatest abuses toward humanity, charge them with 1st degree crimes. Schedule 1 ( like heroin) means having no medical value and a high potential for abuse and cannabis is useless in everyway.
  
  NIDA uses its monopoly power to obstruct research that conflicts with its vested interests. MAPS had two of its FDA-approved medical marijuana protocols rejected by NIDA, preventing the studies from taking place.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Does that mean that:
  
  "Goverments research for brain damage was based on. Giving a monkey 50 joins in a row under an oxygen mask. Causing the monkey brain damage and he dies."
  
  is from the "reefer madness days" and should be ignored as well?
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  Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  The only real convincing evidence is that pot may be linked to psychosis, schizophrenia and even structural changes in the brain, which have been linked to even recreational smoking. Yet any harder drug like alcohol and regarlar many legal drugs will do the same.
  I say everything in moderation, like the odd joint on occasion to release stress become healthy, much like organic red wine, it can actually exspand your life expectancy.
  
  It enhances performance in many world class Athletes today, when controled used to relax from over stress. They don't talk about it or they would be banned like with Michael Phelps. Taking weed three times a week was too much for me and a few members on our national swim team were even smoking more. Funny our team went on to win 7 Olympic medals, the year I quit and became an artist.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Elon Musk isn't going to drive your car or plane, he isn't going to work in your mouth, weld your car or bridge together. At absolute worst he will drive the country that produced your expensive car into the ground.
  
  But I DO agree that he is setting a very poor example, and that his example MAY have affected the stock price (unlikely, IMO, but possible). No healthy brain needs, or should receive, a mind altering drug of any kind. Including amounts of ethanol sufficient to degrade it's normal functioning.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I think you missed my bigger point. He is affecting others, perhaps his employees, who can now smoke weed and work at building Tesla cars...which one day may fill our roads and highways and possibly fail due to manufacturing defects...and cause a crash. Even without the self driving mode, any crash is a dent on our society.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Really? They can be smoking while assembling cars?
  
  Frankly, I doubt that. I think I would want a little proof before believing it to be true.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Use your head, they don’t smoke while working. They take smoke breaks just like cigarette break. Then they go back to work high...
  Like the 1970 Harry Chapin song “taxi”... flying so high when I’m stoned.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Of course. Just like all the people that dart outside for an "alcohol break" and come back in soused, or take a break to snort a little coke and go back to work high. The workplace is absolutely jammed with such people, to the point that 9 out of 10 are high while working.
  
  Not. Use your own head; the law is chock full of prohibitions on such activity and no company can compete with a workplace full of flying workers.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, I will make my final point and no need to drag this discussion out. What Elon Musk did was make pot smoking main stream. He sends a message to workers and children that it is ok to smoke pot... look at me, I am smart, successful, a CEO, and no big deal, I smoke pot and it feels good...no harm done...
  
  It used to be back in the 1960s, pot smokers were generally hippies and musicians and artists...like woodstock.
  
  Now, kids can point to him and say if Elon Musk does it, it must be cool.
  That is the main harm I see for our society.
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  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  LOL Musk didn't make pot mainstream; it has been so for many years, even to the point that a recent visit to Washington state found a pot dealer everywhere we went. Big city, small town, hole in the wall - everywhere has pot stores.
  
  At worst Musk legitimized what has been happening for a decade or more; people that don't like or appreciate functioning brains will reduce them to quivering jelly, useless for anything beyond feeding a deteriorating body.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  You might be right, if it is mainstram as you say, God help us.
  Did you noticed the reaction on Wall Street? TSLA dropped like a rock with this news. How mainstream is that given the negative reaction...
  We are indeed a divided nation. One that want law and order and the good old days and one that want progressive policies that includes open borders, free colleges and pot for all...wow, we are in for a wild ride.
  Take care and have a great weekend. I am taking a long walk.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I think you’re seriously overestimating Musk’s influence on anyone. He’s not making some new and incredible statement by smoking pot. Plenty of people, celebrity and not, already smoke pot.
  
  Honestly, maybe it’s not such a terrible thing that he’s showing the world you can be successful and intelligent and still smoke a joint every now and then. Weed has been demonized for so long when in reality it’s pretty tame in comparison to tobacco and alcohol which are widely consumed and accepted by society.
  
  If you wouldn’t be offended by him drinking a glass of scotch or smoking a cigarette while doing the interview then perhaps you need to re-think the offense you’ve taken here.
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IslandBitesposted 5 years ago
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Live to Learnposted 5 years ago
I don't care that Musk smoked weed. He's kind of an unstable genius. Not surprised.
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Erudite Scholarposted 5 years ago
Hahaha smoking weed for a CEO like Musk is kinda cool.He is not trying to get you to smoke weed.He is eccentric like that.I like it!
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Zahra5253posted 5 years ago
yaa as per my thinking smoking weed is not crime.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  It may not be a crime in certain States but it does affect one’s brain and thinking... In business, the CEO needs to be at the top of his game or else millions of share holders can be negatively affected...as we see today with TSLA stock dropping like a lead balloon.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Do you apply the same judgment to CEOs who smoke tobacco products and have a drink every once in a while?
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  No, but it is not my opinion that matters. It is the law and the board members and shareholders that affect a CEO. Drinking and smoking ar acceptable vices in our culture. Weed is not at least in certain circles.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  But you said:
  
  “In business, the CEO needs to be at the top of his game or else millions of share holders can be negatively affected...”
  
  If your standard is that a CEO must be “at the top of his game” at all times then you should find alcohol and tobacco to be unacceptable at all times also.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  That was the standard at IBM where I worked for 28 years. Even at company events, no alcohol was permitted.
  
  It is a personal choice with some.
  My statement was to address the problem with smoking weed.
  It is a mind altering drug. I know there are medical reasons for using it.
  In general, it is harmful for youths that are developing...
  In adults, it affects one’s thinking and judgement...
  This effects lasts much longer than smoking cigarettes or alcohol.
  That is my objection to legalizing weed.
  Time will tell if this is a real concern. We have some States experimenting with this by legalizing it and taxing it.
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Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago
How about that. Not long ago, every country in the world was under the thumb of the US marijuana laws. In Canada you can grow 4 plants in your home for recreational marijuana use at home. It starting, the world is not buying and cooperating with US nonsense. Could it have been Trump, who broke the camel's back.
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